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    Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    Population decline sparks state-of-the-art research

    In The Van Sun today...

    http://www.vancouversun.com/technolo...958/story.html

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    Re: Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    Interesting read. Is "unregulated hunting" the same as poaching?
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    Re: Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    Could be yes, could be no, as it depends on who the hunters were, and who's perspective it is coming from.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanrahan View Post
    Interesting read. Is "unregulated hunting" the same as poaching?
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    Re: Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    Cool project. Not surprised at the results though.

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    Re: Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanrahan View Post
    Interesting read. Is "unregulated hunting" the same as poaching?
    Only if your white.

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    Re: Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    It pissed me right off. What is "unregulated hunting". Should use proper vocabulary.
    Now every dumbass is going to say we therefore need more regulations.
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    Re: Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    yup, pissed me off too...
    the none hunter, most of LM's, will now take that as us, the ethical hunter, killing off all the Moose.
    And if it was a whitey problem, it would have been stated as a Poaching problem.
    But "Unregulated Hunting", is just someone in the government, spinning the term from Native to Unregulated!
    We are really starting to get shafted by our politicians, and there is no end in site!
    And sadly, wildlife is just as much the loser in all this, as we the resident hunter.
    Moose populations are dropping, and due to political correctness, everyone is making circles around the real problem.
    Yes, great, we the taxpayer are paying for all these studies, but in the end, the wrong fix will be implemented to correct it.
    More closures on the way I suspect, and meanwhile the problem will continue to operate behind these closures, and due to that,
    Moose will still continue to get s*** kicked.
    Sad and Infuriating, at least for me.

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    Re: Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    In the small sample so far, wolves are 300% more a factor in moose predation than unregulated hunting.

    Have those who are vocal on the unregulated hunting factor contacted their MLA with 300% more vigour about initiating some wolf control?
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    Re: Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    Wolves have been killing moose for thousands of years. It's a cycle. Too many wolves and the moose population drops, wolves starve and get diseases, birth rates fall and the moose population rebounds. I don't buy into the wolf control argument.
    I was more just curious what "unregulated hunting" means. If it's poaching, call it poaching. If it's legally shot by natives, say that. I didn't know we had unregulated hunting. It's not illegal to shoot a moose with a collar, though I wouldn't.
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    Re: Biologists seek clues to B.C. moose deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanrahan View Post
    Wolves have been killing moose for thousands of years. It's a cycle. Too many wolves and the moose population drops, wolves starve and get diseases, birth rates fall and the moose population rebounds. I don't buy into the wolf control argument.
    I was more just curious what "unregulated hunting" means. If it's poaching, call it poaching. If it's legally shot by natives, say that. I didn't know we had unregulated hunting. It's not illegal to shoot a moose with a collar, though I wouldn't.
    Wolves have not, however, been around moose for thousands of years with the habitat altered by pine beetle logging. That's the difference. And wolf populations are not dropping due to the alternate prey species like rapidly-expanding whitetailed deer in new habitats.

    Unregulated hunting is exactly what it says, hunting without regulations. To have a poacher, you'd need regulations to be broken.

    Finally, you missed the important part in the article which says it is imperative that if you're hunting cow moose to shoot a cow with or without these collars. That data will help the bios determine all causes of death.
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