George Heyman NDP Candidate "Knocking at my Door"

[Bugle M In]

So, just had George Heyman of the NDP here.
Obviously, he asked what my concerns were, and which way I may be voting etc.

Told him a big concern is what we have been talking about on this forum over the past few years.
He said that he was on the Enviroment side of the NDP party (I guess that means he would be a
potential "environment minister" pick if the NDP won???)

Anyways, he said he would want all money from hunting licenses to go back into the environment etc.
He said he was "NOT" against "wolf culls", although that may not make him well liked by many voters, which we could all understand if we were trying to be elected.
Also said that they would like to give us, the resident hunters, back the allocations that we lost to the
GOABC.

That the only thing they (NDP) didn't support was "trophy grizz hunting", but that they do support
"hunting for food".
Honestly, I never really was for killing something unless you "packed it out".
(meaning, a bear just for the rug, has never really interested me, unless, it was to manage a predator control issue in areas where it is needed)

So...what to think....am I being "bullshitted"???
Sounds like he knew some stuff and the issues......(although he had "no knowledge" of this hunting forum.....which makes me wonder "how much of a voice do BC Resident Hunters have??)

Oh, one last thing, he said he would support a "Oil Refinery" here in the province.
Something I personally think we need in BC (actually in a few places), rather then shipping it "Raw".

So...thoughts???....let it rip!

[Buck]

Well he may have some integrity unlike the current bunch who have neither honor or integrity.At the very least you kick him out in 4 years if he is bullshitting.

[tuner]

When he says he's from "the environment side of the NDP party" he means he opposes any and all economic developments related to natural resources extraction, it's a round about way of saying I'm philosophically aligned
with David Suzuki, Sierra Club, and the raincoast foundation.

[Bugle M In]

When he says he's from "the environment side of the NDP party" he means he opposes any and all economic developments related to natural resources extraction, it's a round about way of saying I'm philosophically aligned
with David Suzuki, Sierra Club, and the raincoast foundation.

No, from what he was saying.
He would like to see a refinery here...so I guess he supports a pipeline?
He made is living in Forestry, so, I think he supports that as well.

I only asked about him, as it is hard to know where parties stand on issues...if they are telling the truth or only what you
want to hear.
Problem is, and why I posted was....we never really hear from members of the political parties and their own personal views
about hunting....so it is hard to know who is who.
Atleast he was honest....he supports a wolf cull...but hard to say that out loud!....
I will give him that.

[Darksith]

When he says he's from "the environment side of the NDP party" he means he opposes any and all economic developments related to natural resources extraction, it's a round about way of saying I'm philosophically aligned
with David Suzuki, Sierra Club, and the raincoast foundation.

He said he was pro refinery so your statement is BS.

Why can't the NDP evolve? Why can't we look to the only other party to do things a bit differently but not expect drastic changes? I completely agree that a smart NDP would be against more oil tankers off our coast which would win them a lot of votes in the LML, but they should, could and maybe just will suggest an alternative. Scrap the 9B site C debacle that isn't needed, and take that cash and dump it into the construction of an oil refinery. Its a win win win, no tankers, jobs and pro industry.

As for the grizzly hunt, it really does sound like the NDP will kill it for the GOABC but make meat removal mandatory for residents. Im not opposed to that. Its time we dumped the fiberals if and only maybe because they have been there too long.

The wildlife funding issue has its twists and curves.

The Liberals have committed to the funding model we've been asking for, which is an independent entity like Freshwater Fisheries funded by our licence and tag money.

The NDP has talked about putting the licence and tag money toward wildlife, but nowhere have I seen them commit to the independent agency. The NDP hates independent agencies, and loves bloated unionized bureaucracies within government. My fear is our money will stay within government's clutches, result in a bloated bureaucracy, get wasted on endless "studies" to avoid offending anyone, and thus still be dictated by politics instead of wildlife science.

I expect the NDP are rubbing their hands together at the prospect of getting our millions to fund a fat bureaucracy, where they still call the shots and keep their union owners happy with more union bloat. No thanks.

Our millions...come on back to reality now would you. In the big bucket of things, our millions are mere pennies or half pennies. The liberals have committed to what now? Letting our moose populations plummet due to big industry desires, lack of funding for proper management aka surveys. Wake up man, the liberals are why we have decreased populations, decreased quota and decreased opportunity in this province. I get it that you are super anti NDP but the liberals are a joke if you are a hunter.

[Fisher-Dude]

Our millions...come on back to reality now would you.

Is $10 million a year millions?

[Rackmastr]

As for the grizzly hunt, it really does sound like the NDP will kill it for the GOABC but make meat removal mandatory for residents. Im not opposed to that. Its time we dumped the fiberals if and only maybe because they have been there too long.

Someone else needs to come back to reality. The NDP will end the grizz hunt. Yep, they'll end it for GOABC and they'll make it a 'meat-only' hunt for residents. Words like 'sustenance hunters' has been thrown around and statements made about turning in hides/skulls. Essentially, by any other words, it will shut down the grizzly hunt as there aren't many that will hunt for grizz and find it acceptable to turn in a skull/hide for destruction.

I get it if you hate the Liberals, but to spin this issue any other way is laughable at best. Its time NDP supporters just accept this as part of their reality (which is fine if that's what you're ok with).

[Rackmastr]

Are you okay with shooting a grizz and having to leave the hide, skull, etc in the bush and only take the meat???

This is Heymans vision and sure seems like the NDP can't get their heads on straight when it comes to exactly what they want to shut down the "trophy" hunt. Next is wolves? Sheep? Elk? We just leave everything in the bush except the meat?

[Bugle M In]

Are you okay with shooting a grizz and having to leave the hide, skull, etc in the bush and only take the meat???

This is Heymans vision and sure seems like the NDP can't get their heads on straight when it comes to exactly what they want to shut down the "trophy" hunt. Next is wolves? Sheep? Elk? We just leave everything in the bush except the meat?

IT's just like being on a "strata council" I suppose.
You have 1 opinion like this, and 1 opinion like that.
All I know is his opinion seems to be that he is for hunting...not against it.
But another in the party might be completely against hunting...
Guess that happens in every political party.
I can only vote for the ones in my area...and I will vote who I agree with the most, or is closest inline to my beliefs.

Nothing wrong with bringing hide and skull IMO.
I bring the rack out too on an Elk.
To me, that part is the "photograph of the memory and experience" when I pursued something and obtained success.

[Rackmastr]

IT's just like being on a "strata council" I suppose.
You have 1 opinion like this, and 1 opinion like that.
All I know is his opinion seems to be that he is for hunting...not against it.
But another in the party might be completely against hunting...
Guess that happens in every political party.
I can only vote for the ones in my area...and I will vote who I agree with the most, or is closest inline to my beliefs.

Nothing wrong with bringing hide and skull IMO.
I bring the rack out too on an Elk.
To me, that part is the "photograph of the memory and experience" when I pursued something and obtained success.

Heymans plan is to make sure that you ARE NOT ALLOWED to take the hide, the skull, etc. Only the meat. What does that say about what he thinks about hunting other species and where exactly does that end when he believes its trophy hunting when you take meat as well as the hide/skull, etc?