awesome thanks everyone you have put my confidence back into the gun I'm looking at soon I should have my pal and will have the gun in my posession. here's a review on the rifle I'm looking at: http://www.snipercentral.com/vtr.htm. I've done a fair bit of research and this gun is a really sweet weapon. It's pretty much perfect for me but was just worried about the calibre. Thanks for helping me solve this. Happy hunting!