Refer back to your first post - I've bolded the question that has drawn 'heat', if you're thin skinned enough to call the replies that.
Again, you seem to have an issue with people pointing out that the law is clear on who is to cut a tag - the person who killed the animal.
As for the OP question about youth bag limits, you've been given an explanation, and now you've realized that a youth can hold a normal hunting license (if they're qualified to do so) or a youth hunting license.
The only exception to the rule of 'who tags it' comes from the youth hunting license, which is basically a permit that the parent holds and that allows their youth to shoot an animal from the parent's own personal bag limit while the youth is hunting under the parent's supervision: - Youth 10 years of age or older and under 18 years of age, who have a FWID may obtain a Hunting Licence OR a Youth Licence. A youth hunting licence does not provide a personal bag limit.
- A Youth Hunting Licence can only be issued to a parent or guardian on behalf of their child or ward who is 10 years of age or older and under the age of 18. Hunter safety training is not required to obtain a Youth Hunting Licence. The parent or guardian is required to have a FWID to hold the Youth Hunting Licence.
- A youth hunter, whether or not they have completed a hunter safety training program or are hunting under a hunting or youth licence, must be accompanied and under the close personal supervision of an adult who carries the proper licences and meets the prescribed qualifications to be a supervising hunter.
The legal options for you and your kid are for you to:
- buy both you and them a hunting license and tags;
- buy yourself a hunting license and tag(s), buy them a youth hunting license, and accept that they will be eating into your bag limit; or,
- buy yourself a hunting license and tag(s), don't buy them any license, and accept that they have to sit on the sidelines.
I can't imagine why anyone with a youth that wants to hunt and has completed their CORE would subject themselves to the mental acrobatics that you're displaying over the $32 license fee and $15 deer tag fee.
Typically I do not buy the tag until I make the decision that all dates are confirmed I can hunt, especially with a kid who has school full time. People value money differently, some may think licence fee are minimal and should not matter; I think so too but I stick with my belief of not wasting money on unspent licence / tag. If anyone bothers to ask me "well your money goes to BCWF which help wildlife in BC", please go ahead and buy all possible species tag every year to help our wildlife management raise more money.
The moose was LEH in region 3, Daniel from Kelowna did the European mount on this moose and had all paperwork of the tag owner. This moose was shot three times until it was dead, first on lung (tag holder), second on neck (me, to immobilize the animal about to run downhill) and third on lung to completely kill the moose (by tag holder). The mule deer was my tag.
Originally Posted by Livewire322
And, you confirm that you were not an LEH holder for that hunt?
Well this didn't age well....
Originally Posted by vincentcui
With the current internet vibe that "everyone is an online CO", it takes multiple posts to explain ideas. Again, I did give all these "online COs" the green light to go ahead and report me to a real CO if they consider I'm attempting to do something fishy
So what if you an a buddy apply for a shared hunt and get drawn. Three weeks later your buddy gets into a serious car crash and will not be able to go on the shared hunt at all. Are you not going because your buddy cant go? You are Probably still going.
So where does the law draw the line and prove grandpa in a wheel chair was never going to hunt and buddy cant go now because he is in a wheel chair for the next 6 months. Or how many guys apply with their wife and the wife maybe goes out twice a year on a afternoon hunt to look for grouse and will never go on a one week moose hunt.
The intent of the law was to share the species among a family or group of hunters and make more tags available. Using the above example, instead of the wife and husband both getting moose draws where they only need one for the family, they both get drawn on a shared hunt (who cares who shoots the moose) and they shoot one moose and the other moose tag gets drawn by another party.
That was the intent of the shared hunt. Who cares who shoots it or who participates in the hunt. Its making more tags for other to get drawn.
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accidents,mishap job work ,kids,life are all things that happen . Of course if one person cant make it the others are expected to go thats kinda a no brainer . ( if two people put in on a shared hunt you only get one moose authorization) . My wife is a hunter but we have never tried to cheat the system by using her hunter number to better my odds or visa versa . she only puts in for what she wants to hunt and knows what she will be able to make time for .
There is a big difference between a hunter that was expected to participate and having to drop out for whatever reason then a person that was never going to be part of a hunt in order to cheat the system. Saying they have to prove it or they have to catch me etc shows that a person knows that the action they are engaged in is questionable to say the least .
Someone being able to justify using a non hunters hunter number to better their odds it isnt going magically make it right. Saying its only cheating if your caught doesn't make it legit . How much money as an individual bit into a hunt ? license, tags,riifle, food ,drink, ammo ,hotel stays if traveling, range time etc . all of that money does not go into the system if someone is using a Ghost hunter to better the leh odds for themselves . On top of that it also changes the odds for the worse for actual applicants that intend to hunt .
This is a direct quote from the govt explanation of shared hunt
The idea behind Limited Entry Shared hunting is to give more hunters the opportunity to hunt without increasing the number of animals harvested. Applicants are not required to apply for these hunts as part of a group – they may apply as individuals if they wish – butgroup Shared Hunt applications have a higher chance of being drawn than single applications. Unlike the regular group applications described in the previous section, group. Shared Hunt applications enter the draw individually rather than as one. If any member of a group application for a Shared Hunt is drawn, then the entire group is drawn. Therefore,a group of four applying for a Shared Hunt has four chances to be drawn whereas an individual application has only one chance."
And, you confirm that you were not an LEH holder for that hunt?
Correct. I did a follow up shot because the tag holder could not see the moose in his scope, and the moose realized it was hit and was about to take off. I explained the situation to the CO in the voicemail, left him my name, number, FWID and told him he can issue me a ticket if what I did was (legally) wrong (but morally right).
Here's one for all you regulatory Saints. If you and a buddy want to go moose hunting. And you want to "get two moose" tags. Is using your 80 years old Dad's hunter number allowing you and your buddy to shoot two moose, wrong? This is premeditated. You and your buddy have thought this out and your 80 year old dad is in a wheelchair. Price of fine if caught? Jail time?
Funny no one responded to this question. Most likely cause a lot of you do it. Although it's technically illegal unless you're part of the Provinces cherished minority. Then who cares right? A two tier'd rule system is made for douce bags. Go back and sit at camp while the rest of your clan looks for an "authorized" animal you paid for as a group to harvest.
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The post immediately after yours responded to it…..Not sure how you missed that, when you went back to quote your own post…
Not sure what you are even asking there though, as your last post doesn’t make sense?
Is it illegal to have dear old dad apply as well? Shady, sure, but probably not illegal.
Exactly........
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Originally Posted by Livewire322
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