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Thread: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    Hawk. that would be a different report and not the required "Mandatory Hunter Report" form. The synopsis gives three options for meeting the reporting requirement:
    1. electronically in WILD at your FWID,
    2. in person at any FrontCounter BC office or
    3. by Mail using an official Mandatory Hunter Report form.
    All the details are on page 16 in the Synopsis. Anyone that purchased a Moose or Caribou species licence in 2024/2025 should read the details to ensure they do not commit an offence and lose their right to purchase licences in 2025.
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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    We've known this was coming. Resident hunters have been requesting increased/enhanced hunter reporting for a while. While this new/specific report is not as thorough as we had hoped, it's a start. Citizen science.
    The only option really is to use the Wild system. It might take 5 minutes of your time. Not too much to ask for conservation.

    Some of you undoubtedly will go off on your panic assumptions about what this is about. Go ahead, it seems to be standard procedure any time something new comes along. Distrust and skepticism runs rampant. Don't read too much into this.

    Resident hunters are an interesting species. One of the requests we have made around LEH is 'fairness'. If it's possible to get the LEH applications out sooner in the year (supports early planning for vacation/hunts). In order to do that, we must collect the information necessary to the decision, earlier in the year. Can we rely on hunters to submit the information, rather than wait for the COs and butcher shops to report in.
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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    Ok JT, I’ll bite. What is this all about then? Managing harvests or managing hunters? If the province was following science based decisions regarding for example the 7b moose hunt I’d be all for mandatory reporting. The problem is, they’re not. Decisions that are made these days regarding hunting are made due to politics or social factors. So don’t say we’re making “panic assumptions” since the government has already shown their intentions. I did buy a tag for the moose draw I got but I will be spoiling the report. The government doesn’t deserve to get accurate information from us if they’re not following the science in the first place.

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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    they will lose some tag money...i know i will think twice about whether to just put one in my pocket for "just in case".... if i am fairly sure i wont be hunting in any area with an open moose season i just wont bother to get one...if plans change, then ill get one later

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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    Quote Originally Posted by Skull Hunter View Post
    My fear with this is how they will use it to "manage" seasons in the future. From what I've heard through the grape vine is that a lot of the further limitations up north were based on number of hunting days equating to pressure on the populations, and not actually looking at harvest statistics vs carrying capacity, etc, and I fear this is another ploy to further push the hunting pressure created by licensed hunters. I think if I had bought a moose or caribou tag and was successful at moose hunting this year it would have certainly happened on the first day, and if I wasn't it's because I didn't hunt any days at all, at least that's what the report would say.
    I would normally have the same concern as you on this..but, they've also stated in the past (not directly related to moose hunting) that with inadequate data, they have to restrict seasons further so in this case, they'll have a tonne of data so hopefully they don't therefore restrict the seasons further..

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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    Quote Originally Posted by 180grainer View Post
    So, even if you buy a tag but never go hunting, and you're never asked if you went hunting, you must report that you didn't go hunting by a certain date, or you're going face punitive action? How many Indians they sending that bullshit to? Little cut by little cut they will drive you out of the bush. What was wrong with the old system? And by the way, how do you manage an animal like moose when there's a significant portion of the population indescriminately killing them that you'll never ever talk to? It's a ****ing clown show and it's coming to it's logical conclusion that your kids will not be hunting. And give it a generation and the ****ing Indians won't either. Wake up.
    I hear ya there...and many of us will be hunting regardless, it's up to them to provide us with legal opportunity..if they want the $$ and the resources to police it, they'll continue to need our hunting revenue...and then there's all the benefits to the economy that aren't exactly quantified - hotels, fuel, restaurants for hunters out of town etc...I guess we'll see how ignorant they are to all of this..

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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    Quote Originally Posted by jamfarm View Post
    Ok JT, I’ll bite. What is this all about then? Managing harvests or managing hunters? If the province was following science based decisions regarding for example the 7b moose hunt I’d be all for mandatory reporting. The problem is, they’re not. Decisions that are made these days regarding hunting are made due to politics or social factors. So don’t say we’re making “panic assumptions” since the government has already shown their intentions. I did buy a tag for the moose draw I got but I will be spoiling the report. The government doesn’t deserve to get accurate information from us if they’re not following the science in the first place.
    Given their track record I don't blame any of us that have those same feelings..as far as I know, they want to compare hunter success vs. days it takes to kill a moose - it's a way of tracking population dynamics - how many hunter days it takes to kill a moose, on average..

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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    Seems a number of people on here didn't even know this was a thing. Don't any of you kind of wonder, or aren't you concerned, how this has been put in place, with punitive action for non-compliance attached, absent no formal informational process to ensure the vast majority of hunters were aware? Did you get any notice when you "bought" the tag, (which is how you could ensure all moose/caribou hunters would be informed)? Did you get notification in the mail after your purchase like they used to notify you of your LEH or how you used to receive your questionaires? They have your address!!!! Why would the Government not ensure "every" moose hunter understood pre purchase, that they were entering into or agreeing to a process that could potentially harm their hunting opportunities in the future? Didn't the NDP Government launch some BS campaign a while back indicating they were going to root out systemic racism? Well, guess who doesn't have to participate in this? This is the very definition of systemic racism. Government ordered segregation based on ethnicity.
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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    Quote Originally Posted by 180grainer View Post
    So, even if you buy a tag but never go hunting, and you're never asked if you went hunting, you must report that you didn't go hunting by a certain date, or you're going face punitive action? How many Indians they sending that bullshit to? Little cut by little cut they will drive you out of the bush. What was wrong with the old system? And by the way, how do you manage an animal like moose when there's a significant portion of the population indescriminately killing them that you'll never ever talk to? It's a ****ing clown show and it's coming to it's logical conclusion that your kids will not be hunting. And give it a generation and the ****ing Indians won't either. Wake up.
    The indians don't even have to report that they kill anything. The data is/will be completely f*cked.
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    Re: If you bought a moose or caribou licence you MUST REPORT

    Quote Originally Posted by huntcoop View Post
    The indians don't even have to report that they kill anything. The data is/will be completely f*cked.
    I don't know if it is true that Natives don't have to report (report to whom-where-when) if they harvested Moose or Caribou. (This statement really needs defining).
    However if there is no reporting of any legal harvest, then Wildlife Managers can only assume like they have to regarding illegal kills.

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