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    Deer bag limits - again.

    I searched but did not find an answer.

    From the Synopsis. Pg 14 of 2024-26

    See bold underlined text.

    One of the most common questions that wildlife staff receive is about deer bag limits and deer species licences. On the surface it seems confusing, with provincial bag limits vs. regional bag limits, buck limits vs. antlerless bag limits, aggregate bag limits, individual bag limits for species, and species licences for mule (black-tailed) and white-tailed deer. Once the system is broken down into its parts it is straight forward. There are two classes of bag limits, Provincial and Regional, neither of these bag limits can be exceeded.
    1. The Provincial bag limit for deer is 3 (not including Haida Gwaii). Hunters may not harvest more than 3 deer in one licence year, but only 1 may be a mule (black-tailed) deer buck from Regions 3, 4, 5, 6, 7A, 7B, and 8 combined. Hunters may harvest 3 white-tailed deer (if they purchase 3 white-tailed deer licenses), or 3 mule (black-tailed) deer (if they purchase 3 mule (black-tailed) deer licenses), or a combination of white-tailed and mule (black-tailed) deer (1+2 or 2+1) providing they do not exceed the provincial limit of 3 and not more than 1 mule (black-tailed) deer buck from Regions 3, 4, 5, 6 ,7A, 7B, and 8 combined. The reason hunters may purchase more than 3 deer licenses in total is to provide hunters with the flexibility to harvest any combination of white-tailed or mule (black-tailed) deer up to a maximum of 3.
    2. Regional bag limits are implemented to limit the number of a species or sex of deer that may be harvested per hunter per year in response to local conditions. If a hunter harvests the maximum number of a species or sex of deer within a region, they can no longer hunt deer within that region. They can, however, continue to hunt and harvest deer in other regions until they reach the provincial bag limit of 3. The following table outlines the provincial and regional bag limits for deer. Deer bag limits on Haida Gwaii are not covered in this article, as they are a unique case.
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    Region 8 example.

    REGIONAL BAG LIMITS »DEER DEER:
    The aggregate bag limit for deer is 3. Two deer may be antlerless but only one antlerless deer of each species may be taken. The bag limit for mule deer is 1. Antlerless mule deer are available only through LEH. The bag limit for white-tailed deer is 2, only one of which may be a buck, and one of which may be antlerless.

    By the sounds of the bold and italic text we cannot, for example, hunt region 8 and harvest a mule deer buck or doe and then continue to hunt any other deer. We already maxed out the regional limit for species mule deer, so we must stop.

    We could however hunt a white tailed buck or doe then continue to hunt region 8 until we harvest either the opposite sex white tail deer as what we already took, AND / OR a mule deer buck or doe (with LEH). If we harvested a white tailed buck, a white tail doe, we could also harvest a mule deer buck or doe (with leh).

    Am I wrong?

    I started reading this again this year because I moved and can hunt more often. I've never taken more than one deer in a year before so it was never an issue. I want to make sure my understanding is correct.

    Thanks,
    Last edited by Lugg; 10-04-2024 at 11:59 AM. Reason: Changed "Regs" to "Synopsis"

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    Re: Deer bag limits - again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lugg View Post
    By the sounds of the bold and italic text we cannot, for example, hunt region 8 and harvest a mule deer buck or doe and then continue to hunt any other deer. We already maxed out the regional limit for species mule deer, so we must stop.
    "The bag limit for mule deer is 1" means that you can only harvest one mule deer regardless of sex. "The bag limit for white-tailed deer is 2, only one of which may be a buck, and one of which may be antlerless" means you can also take one of either sex, which would total three for your provincial and regional bag limit.

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    Re: Deer bag limits - again.

    Lugg, you are correct. You highlighted the key sentence.

    If a hunter harvests the maximum number of a species or sex of deer within a region, they can no longer hunt deer within that region.

    You have to look at the Regional bag limit. If you are hunting in Region 8 and harvest a Mule deer this weekend I hope you have a few whitetail spots in Region 3. If you harvest a whitetail you can keep hunting deer in Region 8 until you harvest a whitetail of the opposite sex or a mule deer.
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    Re: Deer bag limits - again.

    If a hunter harvests the maximum number of a species or sex of deer within a region, they can no longer hunt deer within that region.

    So the maximum number of mule deer in region 3 is 1. If you shoot a mule deer in region 3, you just shot the maximum number of that species and sex in region 3 and are no longer permitted to hunt deer in region3? Including white tail?
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    Re: Deer bag limits - again.

    Quote Originally Posted by RugDoctor View Post
    If a hunter harvests the maximum number of a species or sex of deer within a region, they can no longer hunt deer within that region.

    So the maximum number of mule deer in region 3 is 1. If you shoot a mule deer in region 3, you just shot the maximum number of that species and sex in region 3 and are no longer permitted to hunt deer in region3? Including white tail?

    That’s right.
    welcome to our dumbass laws that try to criminalize honest people.

    Seasonal bag limit for deer…3.
    But if tou happen to shoot a mule deer before both your white tail then your bag limit is 1 unless you want to travel to another zone for the white tail.

    im confident lots of people break this rule every year and don’t even have a clue.

    just another way for our rulers to victimize its peasants.

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    Re: Deer bag limits - again.

    Just shoot a mule buck and and a white tail doe in reg 3 then go to any other reg and take either sex of whitetail if it’s open. That’s legal it’s not really difficult.

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    Re: Deer bag limits - again.

    there are [I]two species of the genus[/I] Odocoileus (medium- sized deer). They are Odocoileus virginianus more commonly called white-tailed deer and Odocoileus hemionus commonly called mule deer.

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    Re: Deer bag limits - again.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyoTHC View Post
    That’s right.
    welcome to our dumbass laws that try to criminalize honest people.

    Seasonal bag limit for deer…3.
    But if tou happen to shoot a mule deer before both your white tail then your bag limit is 1 unless you want to travel to another zone for the white tail.

    im confident lots of people break this rule every year and don’t even have a clue.

    just another way for our rulers to victimize its peasants.
    If you shoot a mule deer in region three, you can still harvest two whitetail - the table on page 14 shows the regional species limits and sex limits by species as well and region limits on total deer that can be harvested for the region. Region 3 limit is 3 deer. The Region limit on mulies is 1, so one of the three deer can be a mulie buck or a doe (LEH only for does). The region limit for whitetail is 2. It can be two does or two buck or one of each. Once you’ve taken one mulie and 2 whities, you have reached the regional and provincial limit and can no longer hunt deer, except on Haida Gwaii.
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    Re: Deer bag limits - again.

    Interesting catch there Lugg...

    Hope it is a mistake.

    Is this an amended regulation compared to earlier years?

    Is this from the wildlife act/regulations
    Or from the synopsis?

    The synopsis is Not a legal document....
    Last edited by Walking Buffalo; 10-03-2024 at 10:35 PM.

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    Re: Deer bag limits - again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Buffalo View Post
    Interesting catch there Lugg...

    Hope it is a mistake.

    Is this an amended regulation compared to earlier years?

    Is this from the wildlife act/regulations or from the synopsis?

    It’s from page 14 of the current “Regulation Synopsis”. My guess is it’s a misprint, and that they mean to say “once you hit the maximum of sex or species in a region, you can no longer hunt that sex or species in THAT region”. You are allowed one of each species of buck in region 8 (for example), so if you hit on a mule deer first, saying that you can’t then hunt whitetail in region 8 is ridiculous. I’m not saying government isn’t above being ridiculous, but I think it’s a mistake in the wording.
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