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    Global News feature on Trumpeter Swans dying in Abbottsford

    Saw a feature on the news this morning about how many trumpeter swans have been dying from lead poisoning because the swans inhabit one of the Abby lakes out that way that has a very high lead content. The farmers are asking that shot gun shells be made with shot other than lead since the birds are mistaking it for grit. You'd think they'd know that it already has,,,,guess not.

    I can't remember when the switch was made but I know it's been a good long time since the regulation came out where steel shot must be used to hunt waterfowl instead of lead shot so I gotta ask. Are there still hunters out there who are trying to use up the rest of their old lead shot shells or are these ponds still being affected with lead poisoning from when lead shot was still being used so long ago?

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    Re: Global News feature on Trumpeter Swans dying in Abbottsford

    Lead shot was banned Canada wide in 1999. Would be interesting to know if this is a yearly die off or the first time in many years.
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    Re: Global News feature on Trumpeter Swans dying in Abbottsford

    From what I read it's a private lake owned by his family.
    But why waste a good opportunity to waste taxpayer money.
    Ed Fast, supposedly a Conservative MP is sponsoring the petition.
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    Re: Global News feature on Trumpeter Swans dying in Abbottsford

    I don’t buy 12 gauge, but I purchased some lead .410” less than 6 months ago. If it’s not banned in 410 I’m assuming you can still buy it in 12 gauge.
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    Re: Global News feature on Trumpeter Swans dying in Abbottsford

    Did any of you read the article? It says the problem was greater this year because they did not erect seasonal exclusion fences on the Washington side due to budget cuts. The Washington side has a higher concentration of lead. This is a legacy issue caused by historic lead contamination. I don’t understand the negativity. The man spearheading the petition states he is a hunter. I think it is a good idea to try and restore the lake.
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    Re: Global News feature on Trumpeter Swans dying in Abbottsford

    Lead shot was banned for waterfowl hunting in BC in the mid-1980’s. Lead shot is still ok for upland birds and clays shooting.
    Global is anti-gun, anti-hunting. They push that agenda. It wouldn’t take much effort for them to get the facts on this story. Those of us that went to the Parliament buildings in Victoria regarding allocation of LEH for guides and residents will remember Global interviewing the one Sierra Club attendee for the news and barely referenced the crowd or speakers representing hunters.
    Ken (blindman on this site) has done work regarding the swans in this area. Wiser lake area on the USA side is a source of lead that effects the swans. Ken will hopefully add some info to this post.
    I searched for the article, can someone post a link?
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    Re: Global News feature on Trumpeter Swans dying in Abbottsford

    Quote Originally Posted by Bustercluck View Post
    I don’t buy 12 gauge, but I purchased some lead .410” less than 6 months ago. If it’s not banned in 410 I’m assuming you can still buy it in 12 gauge.
    You can still buy lead shot. It is banned for migratory bird hunting.
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    Re: Global News feature on Trumpeter Swans dying in Abbottsford

    Pfft, we all know they died of the covid, they just need to run the PSA test a few more cycles to prove it...
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    Re: Global News feature on Trumpeter Swans dying in Abbottsford

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty View Post
    Did any of you read the article? It says the problem was greater this year because they did not erect seasonal exclusion fences on the Washington side due to budget cuts. The Washington side has a higher concentration of lead. This is a legacy issue caused by historic lead contamination. I don’t understand the negativity. The man spearheading the petition states he is a hunter. I think it is a good idea to try and restore the lake.
    You don't understand the negativity?
    Really?

    It's a private lake.
    If the man starting the petition is a hunter, he was dumping lead into the lake, he owns that lake.
    Which part of private lake is the responsibility of Canadian public?
    So it's on Washington side, so what does that have to do with Canada?

    The petition is about banning lead shot and ammunition everywhere, not about restoring the lake.
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