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    CHINOOK UPDATE JUST RELEASED (Bad News)

    BC’s Public Salmon Fishery Screwed Again

    Today’s announcement about 2021’s Chinook salmon fishery is a tragedy for the south coast public Chinook fishery which, for two years, has faced Chinook-non-retention regulations for the bulk of the key spring and summer fishing period. Once again, it finds itself in the same situation.
    Sure, the Minister decided to offer some “tails and scales” in a tiny portion of Area 16, but this does little to provide the lifeline that the region needs to sustain any semblance of the most financially valuable and historically important public fishery on the west coast of North America—let alone Canada. How did this happen?
    When then Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) Minister Johnathan Wilkinson imposed Chinook-non-retention for the 2019 fishery it came as a shock to the public fishery and public fishery advisors. Since then, fishery representatives have worked diligently with the Department of Fisheries Pacific Region staff to develop fishing proposals for 2020 that would avoid upper Fraser River stocks of concern. These were developed using the most up-to-date data available. Wilkinson’s successor, Bernadette Jordan, rejected those 2020 plans, and in fact, increased the severity of non-retention orders. Prior to the April 2021 season, the previous year’s proposals were revised and fine-tuned. They were reviewed by the Pacific Region DFO staff, and assessed as low risk to stocks of concern.
    There has always been concern within the public fishery that regulations were being made based on politics and not data. In spite of this, the SFAB has operated in good faith with the department by developing fishing plans in concert with the DFO, based on the best information available, which in some cases included 40 years of data collection. This concern was so great that the Minister of Fisheries and the Prime Minister were questioned in the House of Commons about this. Prime Minister Trudeau confirmed that fisheries decisions are made based on science.


    The public fishery has already received cross-party support from 24 BC members of Parliament and the Provincial government towards achieving the goals of modest access to Chinook, retention of hatchery fish, and marking all Canadian Chinook hatchery production.
    Unfortunately, the Prime Minister’s assurances about science-based fisheries management are apparently worthless. There are regions in the 2021 proposals package where not a single bit of evidence for the presence of stocks of concern has been found. Yet these important fishing areas remain closed. There are regions in the 2021 proposal where the percentage of U.S. hatchery-produced Chinook are as high as 70-80% and there is every reason to support the retention of at least one adipose-clipped hatchery-produced Chinook. Yet these areas remain closed.
    This decision, after a six week wait where businesses and livelihoods have unnecessarily been placed on hold, lacks professionalism by any standard definition of the word. It is incompetent. The current Fisheries Minister is over her head. What is even more disturbing is that the Minister and the Liberal Government have shown complete distain for BC’s public fishery. They can no longer be trusted, and that goes beyond public fisheries, meaning they are no longer worthy of your vote.
    Every angler, every public fishery business, everyone whose just thinking about taking their friends and family salmon fishing sometime in the future needs to step up to the plate. Write the Minister of Fisheries, the Prime Minister, the leader of the opposition. Bang on your MP’s door and let them know that this type of fisheries management is unacceptable.
    You can reach the office of Bernadette Jordan at Bernadette.Jordan@parl.gc.ca.
    The solution is simple, and decades overdue. Flush the deadwood out of DFO’s bureaucracy in Ottawa. It’s time for this type of destructive management to go, starting with this Minister of Fisheries. It’s time for a new Department of Fisheries with positive vision and a “can-do attitude.” It’s time to send the current department of “No Fish and No Fisheries” to the trash heap.

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    I fail to understand why anyone would have ever trusted a liberal. Their number one concern is lining their pockets & staying in power as long as they can to guess what; line their pockets. Western Canada means absolutely nothing to them & they sure don't care about salmon. Never have, never will.

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    Why it is like pulling teeth to allow retention of "hatchery" (clipped adipose and only 10% of all hatchery as of now) is beyond
    me.
    And why it is so hard to get several mobile machines to start clipping (which could mean 4 years out from that point that you
    might see a retention of 40% of a day out fishing and most only asking to retain 1 salmon a day from those that are clipped and
    yet the government wont start 100% clipping is mind boggling.
    Especially when there are now some saying they are showing studies that hatchery salmon are inferior.
    So, why wouldn't you want those to be taken and also make a wild salmon much easier to release if caught etc.
    Assure that wild are mostly returning to the rivers and reducing hatchery to return seems so straight forward.
    In a way, the hatchery salmon are there for us to retain.
    Aren't they???

    Worst thing, the majority caught out there aren't even the stocks of concern!
    So, who is the government "looking out for"????
    What else is going on behind the scenes??
    Because it seems pretty simple to me.

    When a guy/gal with just some fishing line and 1 hook cant go out to fish and retain one, then there is something really wrong
    with that.
    They should be the last people not allowed to retain, and there is no race boundary in that.
    Want a fish, catch your own, should come first.
    Everyone else, should be second.

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    Bad news. No fish Again for us. Sucks. Just more and more proof of '' the thoughsand cuts'' program of the govt of Canada against Canadians. Steady at taking our rights away at every turn. Soon no rights at all for Canadians,certainly have no say or control now of anything and there is no accountability for anything. Government just does what they want,period. Five minutes watching the house of commons and any six yr old will tell you- It's a monkey shite fight at the zoo. It's gonna be a whole diff world for future generations, that's for sure. Sad.
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    I am pretty sure if you dig deep enough the SRKW are definitely the driving force behind much of this ouija board science.The fact that hatchery fish are part of the ban pretty much indicates that they come before anything else and if there is a surplus of spring salmon SRKW can't tell the difference.We see the power they weld in the commercial sector with soon to be mandatory speed reduction for deepwater ships as well as no go zones complete with fines and penalties.The Libs don't care about much west of the rockies except perception ..D

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    Re: CHINOOK UPDATE JUST RELEASED (Bad News)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I am pretty sure if you dig deep enough the SRKW are definitely the driving force behind much of this ouija board science.The fact that hatchery fish are part of the ban pretty much indicates that they come before anything else and if there is a surplus of spring salmon SRKW can't tell the difference.We see the power they weld in the commercial sector with soon to be mandatory speed reduction for deepwater ships as well as no go zones complete with fines and penalties.The Libs don't care about much west of the rockies except perception ..D
    BINGO WE HAVE A WINNER......Southern Resident Killer Whales...... and the perception that Prime Minister Teflon is making sure we save the whales, pretty soon you won’t be able to take a boat into the Salish Sea unless it’s under oars......nevermind catching a salmon for sport ever again.

    Man this Country/Province needs an enema where politicians are concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weatherby Fan View Post
    BINGO WE HAVE A WINNER......Southern Resident Killer Whales...... and the perception that Prime Minister Teflon is making sure we save the whales, pretty soon you won’t be able to take a boat into the Salish Sea unless it’s under oars......nevermind catching a salmon for sport ever again.

    Man this Country/Province needs an enema where politicians are concerned.
    Exactly and this is why DFO is loath to designate any salmon or steelhead a Species at Risk. Even though they should the fallout would be huge. Bugle an expanded catch and release will not help wild stocks. Turning over fish to find a clipped fin is not the answer.

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    I'm resigned to the fact that my children will never have the opportunity to fish for salmon in BC.
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    Any of the government arguments are mute when you consider they just refuse to shut down the commercial hearing fishery! Hearing are the life blood of the chinook . They would be far better off selling fisherman one use tags at 10$ a fish to a max of 10 fish and putting 100% of funds into hatchery and clipping programs. These size restrictions ect do more harm than good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keta1969 View Post
    Exactly and this is why DFO is loath to designate any salmon or steelhead a Species at Risk. Even though they should the fallout would be huge. Bugle an expanded catch and release will not help wild stocks. Turning over fish to find a clipped fin is not the answer.
    No, it is not the answer.
    My understanding is, that less than 1% of the salmon caught in many areas (that are closed right now) are stocks of concern.
    And if we did clip 100% of hatchery, we could have a season open of just retaining hatchery only.
    (Which would benefit us that want to fish and those that think hatchery salmon are inferior for breeding)
    Remember the USA clips 100% and many of the salmon caught out in the straight are more than likely US bound.

    I get not wanting to roll over every salmon to see if the odd one right now is hatchery looking for clipped fin.
    But the sad part is, as many as 50% of those we do catch are hatchery, both Canadian and US.
    And when the season opens for retention, there should be "no size limit slot" if it does have a clipped fin.

    What makes me most mad is, that they take so long to come out with the answer (6 weeks past due!) for one.
    And secondly, they wont start slipping all hatchery.
    If they did, it would show they still give a shit about the recreational fisherman over here.
    But they dont!...

    As for the whales:
    Well they should get some old school trainers from the Aquarium to teach them how to eat seal.
    But yes, i can see that new policy affects this but wonder some on the actual facts

    It would still be interesting to know what is going on back east behind closed doors.
    There is more to this that just isnt adding up.

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