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2 3/4 still a decent choice for a gun
I'm looking to buy a shotgun and have seen some used that are chambered 2 3/4.
i would like to use it for ducks, geese, target. An all purpose gun. With having to use steel is it still worth while to buy a 2 3/4 gun?
Thanks
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2 3/4 gun will work, although most modern guns are made in 3''. Might be easier to just get a 3'' gun as most steel sold today is 3''.
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Get a 3" Gun. It will be way more versitile in the end. A 2-3/4" will do it all for sure,,, But a 3" will do it better.
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2 3/4 has probably killed more birds than any other size shot so it is still a great option. However is is much easier to find 3 inch thaN 2 3/4 now a days. If you have the option I would recommend going with 3 but there is nothing wrong with 2 3/4
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Get 3.5. Even more versatile
i would not not buy a 2 3/4 unless there was something really special about it.
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Originally Posted by
k-dawg
I'm looking to buy a shotgun and have seen some used that are chambered 2 3/4.
i would like to use it for ducks, geese, target. An all purpose gun. With having to use steel is it still worth while to buy a 2 3/4 gun?
Thanks
If you buy a side by side over under or single shot, make sure it has an ejector not just an extractor which can be a pain in the neck.
Cheers
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Right now the only thing that is readily avail for ammo is 2 3/4" aside from the fancy blackcloud and HeviShot stuff. If you're not skybustin 2 3/4" is plenty to kill with.
That said, if the shotgun is a 2 3/4" chamber the bigger thing you would want to look at before making your decision is, does it have a fixed choke? Typically the vast majority (that I see anyways) of 2 3/4" chambered shotguns that are for sale are a fixed choke which is less than ideal, especially if it is a fixed full choke. Now of course you could get you could get you gunsmith to reem it or fit it with a poly choke, but by the time you do that you're probably nearing the price of a new shotgun.
My 2cents would be unless it's a smoking deal or has some sort of personal meaning and has a either changeable chokes or a fixed skeet choke, I'd probably buy a 3"
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Beat me to it Kyle, check the choke However you can have it threaded for chokes reasonably or just reamed out. BUT by the time you get the gun and have the work done you can buy a lower end pump gun for the same money with chokes and in 3". To address the OPs question though 2 3/4 will definitely get the job done here are 2 limits to prove it both with #4 2 3/4 SuperX
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/...1222-00130.jpg
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/...g%202013/z.jpg
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835
Get a 3" Gun. A 2-3/4" will do it all for sure,,, But a 3" will do it better.
BS, a 2 3/4" will do everything you need to do. I shoot a 3" now, but grew up using a 2 3/4". Use how to shoot it and it will work fine.
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Originally Posted by
d6dan
BS, a 2 3/4" will do everything you need to do. I shoot a 3" now, but grew up using a 2 3/4". Use how to shoot it and it will work fine.
D6 Dan you aren't going to convince the "Know it alls" about the 2 3/4" bores. It never ceases to amaze me how "Experts" like 835 who admits he doesn't know squat about waterfowling freely give advice on some shit they read in a book?? It is my own belief it is way overkill to use anything more than a 20 bore for poor little ducks???:mrgreen: My 2cents worth on this beaten to death subject!!---Cheers--- and straight shooting---Field Marshal.
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field marshal
D6 Dan you aren't going to convince the "Know it alls" about the 2 3/4" bores. It never ceases to amaze me how "Experts" like 835 who admits he doesn't know squat about waterfowling freely give advice on some shit they read in a book?? It is my own belief it is way overkill to use anything more than a 20 bore for poor little ducks???:mrgreen: My 2cents worth on this beaten to death subject!!---Cheers--- and straight shooting---Field Marshal.
Thanks Tony. Nice to know there's a few of us that still know what works. Happy New year!
Edit: I should have said" learn how to shoot it".
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I know 835 has posted up countless big waterfowl kills on here that were only thanks to his 3" mag ......ohhhh wait a minute ...let me check my notes......O.K. Here we go 835 has posted up absolutely nothing to solidify a vote for a 3" gun...so you can take his word for it and if you don't believe him you can ask adriaticum
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I shoot a 20 most of the time....
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10 gauge 3.5" BBB for ducks and a punt gun for geese!! Hahaha jk, 2.75" works just fine. The boys are right, having a fixed choke limits your flexibility, but at the end of the day if it makes a BANG itll kill birds... you just have to know your limits. Like we put 2.75 Federals thru our ancient doubles barrels with fairly open fixed chokes (terrible steel-shot patterning guns) for the days we are feeling old school, and we just make sure to shoot under 20 yards.
I primarily shoot 12 gauge 3" out of an aftermarket choke just because of personal preference and how well my combo seems to pattern.. but the fact is it doesnt take much to bring birds down. My sister takes geese down with her 20 gauge #4's within 15-20 yards just fine. Same shell takes ducks out to 25 yards.
Happy new years!
-Longshot jr.
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Nothing wrong with 2 3/4 inch shells but as others have stated watch out for full chokes on older guns. From personal experience a 2 3/4 inch steel bb can split an older full choke barrel.
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2.75" was good enough for years and its still good enough, however, shotgun chamber size is akind to layering with trail clothing. You can always use less if you have the whole package but its pretty hard to add more if you only have the bare minimum.
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Loved this thread. I am a professed newbie to waterfowling as my add-on question will disclose...
I have a 3 1/2 Mossberg 835 Ultimag. Shooting 3 1/2 BB it definitely knocks ducks out of the sky better than my friend spitting 2 3/4 #4s (or they might even be 3" #4's) out of the same model gun. Much to his chagrin! HHAHAHA! So what would my max distance be with this set up... so far I estimate having clobbered the poor things out as far at 40 yards? (just a guess - Ron?)
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The Hermit
Loved this thread. I am a professed newbie to waterfowling as my add-on question will disclose...
I have a 3 1/2 Mossberg 835 Ultimag. Shooting 3 1/2 BB it definitely knocks ducks out of the sky better than my friend spitting 2 3/4 #4s (or they might even be 3" #4's) out of the same model gun. Much to his chagrin! HHAHAHA! So what would my max distance be with this set up... so far I estimate having clobbered the poor things out as far at 40 yards? (just a guess - Ron?)
Hermit you are shooting a far larger size shot than a #4 and you are packing some more powder behind it. So of course if you're hitting birds the impact will be much more substantial. Depending on the patterning of you shotgun and you selected choke 45-50 is not impossible, but I would only take that shot as a hailmary on an already wounded bird that might be floating 500m away from if you don't try to smack it one last time. BB are overkill IMO on duck outside of late season sea duck. 3" #2,3 or 4 if where we usually shoot with 3's n 4's being preferred. 2s and BB are usually seaduck loads for us. But to each their own.
this lil fella was taken with 3" #4s
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Originally Posted by
d6dan
BS, a 2 3/4" will do everything you need to do. I shoot a 3" now, but grew up using a 2 3/4". Use how to shoot it and it will work fine.
So you used to shoot 2 3/4" but now shoot 3" and call BS on someone liking the 3" better?
Is there logic to this?
Or you just don't like the guy?
Shotguns are not just for shooting ducks. Say you need to blow someone's brains out. 3.5" will do it more effectively (Just guessing).
Regardless, 3" gun will do 2 3/4" too and you know 2 3/4" gun will not do 3" loads (without inflicting pain to yourself)
There is versatility.
3.5" is not worth the extra money.
Some say it's much better to have the 3 1/2 capability and not need it, than to need it and not have it!
The others say with 2 3/4" you just become a better shooter.
But it's really all about cost/opportunity.
2 3/4" has been doing business for a long time and more importantly it will be around for a long time.
Here is an article that might be interesting.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/chamber_length.htm
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field marshal
D6 Dan you aren't going to convince the "Know it alls" about the 2 3/4" bores. It never ceases to amaze me how "Experts" like 835 who admits he doesn't know squat about waterfowling freely give advice on some shit they read in a book?? It is my own belief it is way overkill to use anything more than a 20 bore for poor little ducks???:mrgreen: My 2cents worth on this beaten to death subject!!---Cheers--- and straight shooting---Field Marshal.
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kyleklassen
I know 835 has posted up countless big waterfowl kills on here that were only thanks to his 3" mag ......ohhhh wait a minute ...let me check my notes......O.K. Here we go 835 has posted up absolutely nothing to solidify a vote for a 3" gun...so you can take his word for it and if you don't believe him you can ask adriaticum
What is it with you?
this is a forum to give advice on. it is not only a place for you self proclaimed super star know it alls.
I fully aggree you know more then me but WTF? How do you think you got where you are huh? by learning. in my opinion a 3" is better then a 2-3/4, and i gave it.
no i dont have any big duck hunts to show,,,, in my life i have hit a limit once. And im not shy to tell people that so they know where im coming from.
Good thing there is you guys out there to help us unknowing out,,, or id just go on thinking i know everything. And id bet all you shoot guns that have a 3" chamber weather you shoot 2-3/4" or not.
and yep you got a rise out of me.
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I'm kind of scared to answer this one.
The original question could have just been PM'd to the few experts we have on here as no one else's opinion matters.
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adriaticum
So you used to shoot 2 3/4" but now shoot 3" and call BS on someone liking the 3" better?
Is there logic to this?
Logic Yes, when I grew up, all we had was 12ga's in 2 3/4", there was no 3". I like the versatility of a 3" today especially in the deer shotgun zone. I use a lot of 2 3/4" shells for grouse with lead. There's nothing wrong with a chambered 2 3/4" shotgun. They are very affective today as they were years ago. So I hope I've answered your question.
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835
What is it with you?
this is a forum to give advice on. it is not only a place for you self proclaimed super star know it alls.
I fully aggree you know more then me but WTF? How do you think you got where you are huh? by learning. in my opinion a 3" is better then a 2-3/4, and i gave it.
no i dont have any big duck hunts to show,,,, in my life i have hit a limit once. And im not shy to tell people that so they know where im coming from.
Good thing there is you guys out there to help us unknowing out,,, or id just go on thinking i know everything. And id bet all you shoot guns that have a 3" chamber weather you shoot 2-3/4" or not.
and yep you got a rise out of me.
Don't give advice if you don't know what you are talking about. If you can't play in the sandbox with the guys who do know what they are talking about then go on BSBC where you seem to be some kind of STAR!!!---Cheers---Field Marshal.
P.S. I don't shoot 3''!!!
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Originally Posted by
835
What is it with you?
this is a forum to give advice on. it is not only a place for you self proclaimed super star know it alls.
I fully aggree you know more then me but WTF? How do you think you got where you are huh? by learning. in my opinion a 3" is better then a 2-3/4, and i gave it.
no i dont have any big duck hunts to show,,,, in my life i have hit a limit once. And im not shy to tell people that so they know where im coming from.
Good thing there is you guys out there to help us unknowing out,,, or id just go on thinking i know everything. And id bet all you shoot guns that have a 3" chamber weather you shoot 2-3/4" or not.
and yep you got a rise out of me.
Yeah you are right.....my duck gun is a 16 gauge 870 it kicks ass with the 3" shells I just have a hard time finding them.
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Originally Posted by
835
What is it with you?
this is a forum to give advice on. it is not only a place for you self proclaimed super star know it alls.
I fully aggree you know more then me but WTF? How do you think you got where you are huh? by learning. in my opinion a 3" is better then a 2-3/4, and i gave it.
no i dont have any big duck hunts to show,,,, in my life i have hit a limit once. And im not shy to tell people that so they know where im coming from.
Good thing there is you guys out there to help us unknowing out,,, or id just go on thinking i know everything. And id bet all you shoot guns that have a 3" chamber weather you shoot 2-3/4" or not.
and yep you got a rise out of me.
If you can show me a post where I proclaimed to be a superstar I will retract that post. You admit you have only shot a limit once but it seems you are damned sure the 3" is better.What do you base this on?..you are right again...when you say people come to this site looking for advice...and I gave it....What is it with you?
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Can't we all just buy Benelli's that cycle pretty much everything and come with multiple chokes so we can finally just get along ;)
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kyleklassen
Yeah you are right.....my duck gun is a 16 gauge 870 it kicks ass with the 3" shells I just have a hard time finding them.
Same duck gun I have But I have never seen or herd of 3" 16ga shell.
I use 2 3/4" 16ga #2 steel for ducks and geese when I have to opertunity to hunt them. If I where to get back into serious waterfowl hunting I would switch over to the 3" shells only because they are readily available every where.
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Originally Posted by
adriaticum
So you used to shoot 2 3/4" but now shoot 3" and call BS on someone liking the 3" better?
Is there logic to this?
Or you just don't like the guy?
Shotguns are not just for shooting ducks. Say you need to blow someone's brains out. 3.5" will do it more effectively (Just guessing).
Regardless, 3" gun will do 2 3/4" too and you know 2 3/4" gun will not do 3" loads (without inflicting pain to yourself)
There is versatility.
3.5" is not worth the extra money.
Some say it's much better to have the 3 1/2 capability and not need it, than to need it and not have it!
The others say with 2 3/4" you just become a better shooter.
But it's really all about cost/opportunity.
2 3/4" has been doing business for a long time and more importantly it will be around for a long time.
Here is an article that might be interesting.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/chamber_length.htm
Well since, D6dan bought his newest shotgun less than 6 yrs ago, upgrading to a new BPS as he is a leftie. He bought a 3" because that is what was made. he shoots 2 3/4 birdshot, and he shoots 3" deer shells. Just because his shotgun is a 3" doesn't mean that's all he shoots, the OP asked if a 2 3/4 chambered gun is worth buying and Dan gave his opinion. If you don't like don't read it, it's his opinion based on his experience I know how much experience he has and I have seen very little support to your level of expertise. So instead of trying to derail a thread and turn everything into a pissing match offer up some of your real world experience instead of just slamming other peoples opinions and dropping an article reference.
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Carole, why don't you and Toonie go down to the bay and get us some pics... Too many people use them to see who the real hunters are.
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I have an older 870 that only takes 23/4 I got the full choke barrel reamed and it kills ducks but I wish I had a three inch because my partner with 3" kills way more than me. And it couldn't be my poor shooting ? Could it. Na it's the gun
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835
Carole, why don't you and Toonie go down to the bay and get us some pics... Too many people use them to see who the real hunters are.
Whattsa matter 835?? Slow day at BSBC or don't they believe your BS anymore either???---Cheers---Field Marshal.
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field marshal
Whattsa matter 835?? Slow day at BSBC or don't they believe your BS anymore either???---Cheers---Field Marshal.
Over their no one ridicules anyone, not like the morons here that have nothing better to do.
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Thank you, ....
I just tried to voice my opinion that a 3" gun makes more sense in my eyes. Weather you agree or not is up to you.
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303Brit
Well since, D6dan bought his newest shotgun less than 6 yrs ago, upgrading to a new BPS as he is a leftie. He bought a 3" because that is what was made. he shoots 2 3/4 birdshot, and he shoots 3" deer shells. Just because his shotgun is a 3" doesn't mean that's all he shoots, the OP asked if a 2 3/4 chambered gun is worth buying and Dan gave his opinion. If you don't like don't read it, it's his opinion based on his experience I know how much experience he has and I have seen very little support to your level of expertise. So instead of trying to derail a thread and turn everything into a pissing match offer up some of your real world experience instead of just slamming other peoples opinions and dropping an article reference.
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Chief, it's you and d6dan and field marshall who are in a pissing match slamming 835.
Otherwise people were having a jolly conversation on this thread until you found it. :)
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Can't wait for the season to be over so the drama can really fire up~!
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adriaticum
Chief, it's you and d6dan and field marshall who are in a pissing match slamming 835.
Otherwise people were having a jolly conversation on this thread until you found it. :)
Show me where I shit on Dru???? I must have missed that part? Maybe you should go back and read my first post maybe try understanding it this time.
you're the one that step in here and started chucking shit and offer up very little positive to this thread, you want step into a thread and start chucking shit expect it back.
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303Brit
Show me where I shit on Dru???? I must have missed that part? Maybe you should go back and read my first post maybe try understanding it this time.
you're the one that step in here and started chucking shit and offer up very little positive to this thread, you want step into a thread and start chucking shit expect it back.
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Ok sorry you are right, it wasn't you.
It was the other 2 guys. I assumed you were a member of the same pack.
I wasn't chucking anything. If you think that's chucking shit, you haven't seen anything yet.
If you disagree with something I said, offer up a solution or a correction.
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lorneparker1
Can't wait for the season to be over so the drama can really fire up~!
Oh come on, you know drama sells newspapers.
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Me and Kiel are good, suffice to say Kyle and Tony don't think I'm all that so to speak
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bearhunter338-06
Same duck gun I have But I have never seen or herd of 3" 16ga shell.
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yeah me neither but apparently I would need the if they were available.