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Stuck in snow storm at Redfern - Need urgent help
Hello. My husband and son are stuck in a snow storm in the Redfern-Keilly provincial park. They travelled in on a side-by-side by the road out is blocked by branches pushed down by the snow. Chain saw is out of gas. Does anyone know if there is an outfitter in that area that may be able to help? Or any suggestions at all? They are cold and wet and stuck. Thanks.
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if its that urgent you should probably call some sar or something not post it on the internet...JMO sorry not trying to sound rude...How far in are they? can they walk out and go back in with more fuel later??
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Thanks for responding. We're just trying to consider all the options before calling SAR. Just talked with them and they are going to try to hike out - not too far (15k) just slow in the snow. Thanks again.
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champs
Thanks for responding. We're just trying to consider all the options before calling SAR. Just talked with them and they are going to try to hike out - not too far (15k) just slow in the snow. Thanks again.
No shame in calling for help being wet and cold in a snow storm is the recipe for disaster.
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Situation like that can go from good to bad real quick, SAR would rather an easy retrieve of two people than a hunt for them if they don’t show up. I second SAR sooner rather than later.
i feel like they much prefer the rescue part than the searching.
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Champs, SAR is there to help.
Call RCMP they are there to help.
please do this now.
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Cold and wet turns into hypothermic really quick , maybe they can walk 13km out but not the last 2? Get someone heading their way ASAP.
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a lot can happen, and no one wants it to.
you have a line of communication right now. Your family needs to hunker down and know someone is coming. If its a storm and is that bad, they need to hunker down..
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At least they are on a road and know the way out, but yea definitely get someone heading their way to get them
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I agree, get help now, Better to soon than to late, Hind sight is 20/20 but I always carry an ax and bow saw as well as a chain saw. they never run out of fuel or break down at the worst time. Just a general hint for everyone.
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Qwest, Highland, and Bailey helicopters all have machines in that area. Could call them to drop gas and check on your boys.
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Thanks for the advice. We have a plan in motion. I will call SAR if they don't meet their next check point. Thanks again.
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Hope they make it out safely. If I lived up that way I would go and help. Looking forward to hear about their safe return.
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Originally Posted by
Amphibious
Qwest, Highland, and Bailey helicopters all have machines in that area. Could call them to drop gas and check on your boys.
Unfortunately if the snow storm is that bad they may not have vis to fly
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Swinging an axe, and running a hand saw are good ways to stay warm too. If I wasn’t 9 hrs away I’d head in too! Please keep us posted! Moosin
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rocksteady
Unfortunately if the snow storm is that bad they may not have vis to fly
GFA's look good for the next 12hrs. You'd be surprised what we can fly in.
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What road did they go in on? I’m driving by there tomorrow.
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I'm a little confused. Obviously they have contact with the outside world, why dont they just contact for help
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S.W.A.T.
I'm a little confused. Obviously they have contact with the outside world, why dont they just contact for help
I don't think they were looking for SAR, just some help if it was available. I can understand that, there doesn't need to be just two awnswers, SAR or no help at all. Personally, short of an accident or serious injury I wouldn't want someone calling the cavalry for me.
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There should be a hunting bc help page, except it would get plugged up by guys looking for another bottle or case of beer 200km out of town.
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Muledeercrazy2
There should be a hunting bc help page, except it would get plugged up by guys looking for another bottle or case of beer 200km out of town.
Hahahaha good idea! I’ve had that emergency a few times!
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I quess my take on this whole situation is to stay put and build a fire and wait a couple of days for the snow to clear.
if they do not have sufficient supply's to last a few days they have no business being in there. Sorry to be harsh but
that is bush reality.f
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Besa River Outfitters is on the trail to Redfern, but it sounds like they never got that far. The forecast is for much warmer starting this afternoon.
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I guess knowing where redfern is might also shed some light
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If it is an emergency and just not an inconvenience , call 911, they will determine best action. They may know of a local or call the sar group or use RC's own heli or ........
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S.W.A.T.
I guess knowing where redfern is might also shed some light
NW of Pink
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Foxton Gundogs
I agree, get help now, Better to soon than to late, Hind sight is 20/20 but I always carry an ax and bow saw as well as a chain saw. they never run out of fuel or break down at the worst time. Just a general hint for everyone.
I do as well, and it is a good tip...how's it going OP, has SAR been called or another means of rescue?
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This was posted as need for urgent help....hopefully you contacted SAR. 15km through the wet snow and brush without proper gear will likely take 5-6hrs. Hopefully they are out to truck by now or had ability to start fire.
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Hope they are ok now, please update us when you can
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Originally Posted by
champs
Hello. My husband and son are stuck in a snow storm in the Redfern-Keilly provincial park. They travelled in on a side-by-side by the road out is blocked by branches pushed down by the snow. Chain saw is out of gas. Does anyone know if there is an outfitter in that area that may be able to help? Or any suggestions at all? They are cold and wet and stuck. Thanks.
The CO service in Fort Nelson would know the contact information for the licenced outfitter in that particular Area. The CO service must also be notified in advance of any use of a Helicopter during a Hunting Expedition otherwise Charges could be laid.
While Piss poor Planning may make for great Adventures, Hunters venturing into remote areas of BC should be expected to make reasonable provisions to cover all eventualities.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by
robert05
I quess my take on this whole situation is to stay put and build a fire and wait a couple of days for the snow to clear.
if they do not have sufficient supply's to last a few days they have no business being in there. Sorry to be harsh but
that is bush reality.f
2nd that.
Cheers
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It doesn't make sense, from the very beginning of the story
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Areas above Fort Nelson got hammered by early snowfall on the weekend. Hopefully they got out, or Search and Rescue were called to get them out of there. Being trapped in wet and cold conditions would be a sure recipe for disaster.
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I can feel for their situation. You just have to witness what 6" of heavy wet snow will do to a fully leafed out poplar or birch or willow. More than just a few bent branches, lots of times the trunk is bowed or shattered, there could be thousands of fallen trees on the trail
On the plus side lots of northern trails will be better for years to come, with less encroaching foliage )
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elker
It doesn't make sense, from the very beginning of the story
What doesn’t make sense?
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elker
It doesn't make sense, from the very beginning of the story
Or is it beyond your mental capacity to understand the situation :roll:
Read Boxhitch’s post and you might be able to comprehend what they are likely experiencing. It would suck to be caught not being prepared for those conditions
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elker
It doesn't make sense, from the very beginning of the story
It’s a hunter’s wife asking for help for her husband and son. It’s not a story. It’s one of the good things about this site, maybe someone in the area could help. I would be so lucky that my wife would go on here to ask for help if I needed it.
Speaking of stories, what happened to that thread of you filling your wife’s tag?
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@Champs I am so sorry you are dealing with this. I hope your guys had a safe night, and that they get themselves and their equipment out of the bush. I can’t even imagine how you could deal with all the thousands of broken trees, let alone over a foot of fresh wet snow. Good luck, and I think they are very lucky to have you on the ground to help them get out.
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If the trapped duo can communicate with their family, they can communicate with the SAR. If the wife can ask help in this chat room, she can contact the SAR or rcmp as well.
Why the didn't do it? Time was being wasted.
were they worried about paying rescue fees?
Their action or inaction reminds me the wife of my friend. She saw my friend lying on bed with foams coming from his mouth, she didn't call the ambulance, he called another friend to come to help. In the end, my friend died. He might have been saved had she called the ambulance the first place