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dry creek
10-04-2013, 09:46 AM
first nation people living in the states are they considered a non-resident?

crazy_mtb_2002
10-04-2013, 02:33 PM
Of course they are

Gateholio
10-04-2013, 02:49 PM
If you mean US citizens of native descent, yes- they are non residents. They are not citizens of BC

Stone Sheep Steve
10-04-2013, 04:47 PM
When the West Koot elk season opened, there were natives from south of the border taking advantage of the season. I don't know what the legal fall-out was?????

SSS

Rackem
10-04-2013, 05:31 PM
the Sinixit hunt both sides of the border, it seems that if they have permission from chief Bob, there is no will to enforce border stuff, unlikely to get a conviction, most are duallies.

Tenacious Billy
10-04-2013, 07:10 PM
the Sinixit hunt both sides of the border, it seems that if they have permission from chief Bob, there is no will to enforce border stuff.
This is a fantastic way to insure our wildlife resources are managed accurately......:shock:

Everett
10-04-2013, 10:01 PM
No Fall out it seems Natives from the US can Poach in BC to there hearts content.


When the West Koot elk season opened, there were natives from south of the border taking advantage of the season. I don't know what the legal fall-out was?????

SSS

Bear Chaser
10-04-2013, 10:32 PM
Odd that there are no issues at the US border with firearms transport that the rest of us have to contend with. I highly doubt that there would be any permits in place.

Rackem
10-05-2013, 08:05 AM
I don't think they bring their own guns, they just borrow one from the local band...Most are dual citizens because their traditional territory was on both sides of the border, and they travel back and forth all the time. They were a bit nomadic apparently.

Chief Bob is trying his best to repopulate the BC side, (he has produced many children himself in the cause) by encouraging his male band members to get married to anyone, and have kids. They are trying to make a claim that they are a separate nation from the Okanagan, but most of the band lives on the US side more than the BC side.

pnbrock
10-05-2013, 08:35 AM
lets give the us all our fn, problem solved.

Steve W
10-05-2013, 09:17 AM
Something that may be of interest. Sinixit hunter taking on the system. This will take years to sort out.

http://www.cbc.ca/daybreaksouth/2013/07/19/court-case-launched-to-prove-sinixt-first-nation/

Rackem
10-05-2013, 10:13 AM
http://sinixt.kics.bc.ca/history.html

Rackem
10-05-2013, 10:20 AM
http://sinixtnation.org/content/sinixt-nation-press-release

These colonial strategies are nothing new to Sinixt people. Archived Journals of the BC legislature saw a motion made on March 1st 1892 to impose a 50 dollar foreign hunter fee on Sinixt peoples in an effort to keep Sinixt from occupying and using their ancestral homelands and at the same time to benefit the interests of the Ktunaxa peoples. The record from the BC Legislature Journals states:


“Mr. Kellie moved, seconded by Colonel Baker—
That whereas, owing to custom, the Indians [Sinixt] from the neighbourhood of Colville, in State of Washington, do annually come into British Columbia and hunt along the Arrow Lakes and Columbia River[Sinixt territory], and by so doing exclude the Indians of Kootenay[ktunaxa], in British Columbia, from following the chase in those parts of the Province above mentioned ;
Be it therefore resolved, That in the interests of British Columbia, our Government do instruct its officers in Kootenay, or elsewhere, to see that the provisions of the "Game Act," empowering the collection of the sum of fifty dollars for all non-residents who come into British Columbia for the purposes of hunting, be enforced in regard to these foreign Indians [Sinixt] when they cross the International Boundary for the purpose of hunting in British Columbia,
The motion was withdrawn.”

Unlike the 1892 motion that was withdrawn, the Archives of the BC Legislature show that on December 3rd 1894 the Crown, in the interests of Ktunaxa resolved to exclude Sinixt peoples from Canada by prohibiting their movement across the Canada/US border. Below is the excerpted text from the Archived Journals;

“On the motion of Mr. Hume, seconded by Mr. Kellie, it was Resolved,--
That whereas, owing to custom, the Indians[Sinixt] of the State of Washington, in the United States, do annually come into British Columbia and hunt along the Columbia River and Arrow Lakes, and by so doing exclude the Indians of Kootenay[ktunaxa], in British Columbia, from following the chase in those parts of the Province above-mentioned And whereas there are known cases of the maltreating of settlers along said river and lakes:
Be it therefore Resolved, That an humble Address he presented to His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, praying him to move the Dominion Government to take such steps as may be deemed advisable with the United States Government to exclude these Indians[Sinixt] from crossing the International Boundary,”