Some Big Whities For Ya...

[GoatGuy]

Aggiehunter - yes in couple areas I know, they have had a bit of a decline from my observations, but because the whitetail is such an adaptable species, I'm guessin they've just gone for the most part nocturnal, and aren't hanging in the easy to see places anymore. Just got back from seeing friends in the Koots, people I talk to are still seeing WT everywhere. Furthermore, in many areas that I hunt from my observations I am actually seeing an INCREASE in WT numbers since the doe season..they are smart, skiddish deer, and most people don't know how to hunt them to the way they have adapted..

Using the species ecology is the secret weapon for wt hunting. Regen and thick old-growth are still producing phenomenal results for wt hunting.

[Sitkaspruce]

Glad to see this post back for another year!!

Looking forward to following this along.

I have 5 out so far, been so damn busy this spring. Will get another 3 out this weekend if the rain slows down.

And in my observations of having cams a klick apart, I have not seen the same deer at either spot. The does are easy to distinguish if you look closely; scars, ears, hair are all different markings. The bucks are easier......I also see 10-20 deer in a field less than a klick from a cam, yet only 4-6 different deer show up at that cam over a 2 week period.

Keep the info coming Ourea!!!

Cheers

SS

[Fisher-Dude]

I've found that WTs are more likely to have a "home range" area of a few km2 for much of the year, moreso than MDs. The MDs seem to move around more.

[358mag]

I've found that WTs are more likely to have a "home range" area of a few km2 for much of the year, moreso than MDs. The MDs seem to move around more.

That on a GPS or the odometer of your truck ?:wink::wink:

[Fisher-Dude]

That on a GPS or the odometer of your truck ?:wink::wink:

Box 'em in!

[aggiehunter]

Goatguy, your absolutely correct....I had Larry D. Jones over for dinner and his advice was similar and a little easier to understand..."Elk are where your find them".......

[358mag]

Goatguy, your absolutely correct....I had Larry D. Jones over for dinner and his advice was similar and a little easier to understand..."Elk are where your find them".......

But what does Larry D Jones know about elk hunting ? after all he's not on HBC ......

[Ourea]

Been out snooping around and checking cams regularly.
Finding numerous bucks.
The better bucks seem to ebb and flow...few being consistent despite the ever growing cam presence.
Mid class bucks are far more consistent.

Observation......
I am getting "new" bucks I have never seen before showing up in areas I have been cam'ing for several years.
They just show up out of the blue.
Interesting.

Here's a few....

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/20150715_152829_resized_3_zpswlizct5k.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/20150715_152829_resized_3_zpswlizct5k.jpg.html)

Average bucks.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/decent%202_zpsf8e7b6jp.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/decent%202_zpsf8e7b6jp.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Haven't found any bucks (YET!) that would get a guy's heart pounding.
Having said that, this guy may be a buck of interest some day.
Think we will keep an eye on him going forward.
Half decent but still a long ways off from what we are looking for.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/wide_zpssv12qtgv.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/wide_zpssv12qtgv.jpg.html)

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/wide%202_zpscd4qm3qd.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/wide%202_zpscd4qm3qd.jpg.html)

Recruitment seems good again this yr with multiple does sporting twins.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/recruitment_zps8qjn2u61.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/recruitment_zps8qjn2u61.jpg.html)

[Wrj]

great pics, keep them coming!

[Wrayzer]

Look at those bases and width. Wow.
I always look forward to your updates.

[Ourea]

The usual "slow down" for bigger bucks has begun again.
This happened each of the two previous yrs since I began to focus on WT.
On some very solid bucks up until early July...then gone.
Still ample decent bucks hanging tighter but the potential shooter bucks have obviously moved onto different summer range.

The cam network is becoming quite extensive yet none of the two or three "players" have been captured the last few weeks.
I convinced 358mag to "join the program" in this area.
He added some cams and found instant success.
Very happy to have his energy, knowledge and sense of humor going forward.
More ground can be covered now and intel'd.
(I am starting to get spread pretty thin with the number of sites I am maintaining)

I am seeing very few field related posts these days so here's a couple juvie bucks from a recent cam check. Good close up video of this youngster.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHgxbQWm_FU&feature=youtu.be



FYI, this is from a recently purchased Cabela's Outfitter cam.
Thought I would give one a try.
Menu is slick, like the features....won't buy another one.
Detection and recovery is "ok".
Lots of false triggers though.

[Boner]

Pretty cool man. I didn't go thru the whole thread, but the last 4-5 pages were making me wish my cams weren't collecting dust in the basement.

[Ourea]

As hunting season approaches I am sure every
one's appetite for field pics and intel is growing.

Did a big cam pull the other day doing 9 cams out of our target area.

I will be less on the descriptive and more on the pics and videos.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/average_zpssq9wktla.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/average_zpssq9wktla.jpg.html)

Average youngsters.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/youmg%20tall%204_zpsnn7fetj6.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/youmg%20tall%204_zpsnn7fetj6.jpg.html)


http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/dink_zpsjiocsovu.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/dink_zpsjiocsovu.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Lady O has been helping out with the program.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/bones2_zpsfppibjjs.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/bones2_zpsfppibjjs.jpg.html)

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/bones1_zps3vkrobcy.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/bones1_zps3vkrobcy.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Had another cam used as a chew toy by the usual suspects.
Bears seem to love the taste of them....oh well, part of cam'n.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhPC1NufCBk

[Ourea]

Usual cougar presence.
Healthy young lady.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/cat_zpstzyxgm8j.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/cat_zpstzyxgm8j.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

For all those that they think walking around is a successful approach to killing a whitetail.....
Check out the radar on this little buck.
Velvet is still on...this is when they are somewhat relaxed.
Wait til the quads start buzzing and a few hunters stink things up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnvY3cDTaBc

[Ourea]

This appears to be the same buck.
First video was off a Browning cam.
This from a cabela's outfitter cam.

Considerable difference in the video quality.

FYI......these cams are aprox 3k apart.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipXbp88OgqM

[Ourea]

Buck of interest.

Almost positive this is the tall 5 with the weak G4 on the left side from last yr .....that was passed on as his brow was busted off.
He sure has great tine length.
Lovely buck.
Nice to see him around prior to the rut!

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/weak%20g4_zpse1kqdklo.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/weak%20g4_zpse1kqdklo.jpg.html)

This is a new promising youngster.
Note his great tine length as well.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Son_zpse3zux4jd.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Son_zpse3zux4jd.jpg.html)

[338Schulz]

Hey Ourea happened to come across an old post of yours from 08-25-2013 talking about none of those Whiteys left in that picture!my question is where did you harvest that buck and where was that picture taken?

[Wentrot]

Hey Ourea happened to come across an old post of yours from 08-25-2013 talking about none of those Whiteys left in that picture!my question is where did you harvest that buck and where was that picture taken?

Gentlemen, ready your GPS!

[338Schulz]

Don't have a GPS but when U find out could U let me know!

[Wrj]

*Grabs popcorn*

LOL

[Ourea]

The GPS coordinates are ........anywhere in BC that there are Whitetail.
The particular area I have elected to key on is nothing more than a sampling and an example of what's out there.
If I was willing to drive a little farther I could easily be in far more productive areas.
Point being there is great Whitetail hunting in most areas of the interior.

That's the whole point of this thread.
Whitetail are living right under our noses in many areas of BC.
Good numbers are minutes from most hunter's doors.

Get out there.
Do some scouting.
Hang a cam or two.
You will be surprised at what you will find.

[HarryToolips]

The GPS coordinates are ........anywhere in BC that there are Whitetail.
The particular area I have elected to key on is nothing more than a sampling and an example of what's out there.
If I was willing to drive a little farther I could easily be in far more productive areas.
Point being there is great Whitetail hunting in most areas of the interior.

That's the whole point of this thread.
Whitetail are living right under our noses in many areas of BC.
Good numbers are minutes from most hunter's doors.

Get out there.
Do some scouting.
Hang a cam or two.
You will be surprised at what you will find.
totally agree....Even with liberal seasons, I'm seeing them expand their range into areas I've never seen them before, especially this year and last..

[Rayne]

Hey guys I'm just starting white tail hunting and am quite excited to get out there this year does anyone know which mu in region 3 is a good place to start to have a decent chance to find some? Don't need honey holes just a management unit Number

[338Schulz]

Ok Ourea I see you had the Gonads to reply to my ouestions somewhat vage ok. truth of the matter is you don't know where this picture was taken so all GPS bullshit and popcorn aside I will tell you something about that particular dinky do.I harvested that "Trophy" in 1991 and this is the only picture missing in my collection and I don't know where you got it and cannot recall giving you permission to use it.Having said that I have the official documentation from the Trophy Wildlife Records Club of British Columbia dated March 15th,1993 in front of me and by the way this dinky do scored a nice 173 2/8 non-typical not bad in my books.As I'm posting this "dinky do" is looking down on me and I think he has a gleem in his eyes.Now in all honesty do you really take those grainy trail cam pictures or are they sucked from somewhere on the net.I would also be carefull obout putting guys in blinds over bait,could be interpreted my somy people as illegal guiding over bait,just saying

[The Dawg]

Ok Ourea I see you had the Gonads to reply to my ouestions somewhat vage ok. truth of the matter is you don't know where this picture was taken so all GPS bullshit and popcorn aside I will tell you something about that particular dinky do.I harvested that "Trophy" in 1991 and this is the only picture missing in my collection and I don't know where you got it and cannot recall giving you permission to use it.Having said that I have the official documentation from the Trophy Wildlife Records Club of British Columbia dated March 15th,1993 in front of me and by the way this dinky do scored a nice 173 2/8 non-typical not bad in my books.As I'm posting this "dinky do" is looking down on me and I think he has a gleem in his eyes.Now in all honesty do you really take those grainy trail cam pictures or are they sucked from somewhere on the net.I would also be carefull obout putting guys in blinds over bait,could be interpreted my somy people as illegal guiding over bait,just saying



You can bait deer in BC. So there goes that side of it

[pg83]

Where's this pic in question that you found on Ourea's other thread? If it's just another of his trail cam pictures why are you getting so hot and bothered over it? The buck in question looks like a buck you shot 20 some odd years ago? He posts tons of trail cam pics of various species constantly so he either actually takes that stuff seriously(makes sense) or he spends more time sleuthing through other peoples trail cam pics than The Dawg does with Provincial Government records.

[358mag]

Ok Ourea I see you had the Gonads to reply to my ouestions somewhat vage ok. truth of the matter is you don't know where this picture was taken so all GPS bullshit and popcorn aside I will tell you something about that particular dinky do.I harvested that "Trophy" in 1991 and this is the only picture missing in my collection and I don't know where you got it and cannot recall giving you permission to use it.Having said that I have the official documentation from the Trophy Wildlife Records Club of British Columbia dated March 15th,1993 in front of me and by the way this dinky do scored a nice 173 2/8 non-typical not bad in my books.As I'm posting this "dinky do" is looking down on me and I think he has a gleem in his eyes.Now in all honesty do you really take those grainy trail cam pictures or are they sucked from somewhere on the net.I would also be carefull obout putting guys in blinds over bait,could be interpreted my somy people as illegal guiding over bait,just saying
Great buck Fred always wondered who shot it Congrats .http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.png

[338Schulz]

The Pic is on Oureas Page 3 #27

[338Schulz]

Thanks 358mag.
, have we met?

[Wrayzer]

No discounting that buck, thats some great time length.

[pg83]

The Pic is on Oureas Page 3 #27

Thanks, totally missed what you were talking about originally. Congrats on a mighty fine buck.

[358mag]

Thanks 358mag.
, have we met?

Not sure do you live close to a hockey arena ?

[Ourea]

Ok Ourea I see you had the Gonads to reply to my ouestions somewhat vage ok. truth of the matter is you don't know where this picture was taken so all GPS bullshit and popcorn aside I will tell you something about that particular dinky do.I harvested that "Trophy" in 1991 and this is the only picture missing in my collection and I don't know where you got it and cannot recall giving you permission to use it.Having said that I have the official documentation from the Trophy Wildlife Records Club of British Columbia dated March 15th,1993 in front of me and by the way this dinky do scored a nice 173 2/8 non-typical not bad in my books.As I'm posting this "dinky do" is looking down on me and I think he has a gleem in his eyes.Now in all honesty do you really take those grainy trail cam pictures or are they sucked from somewhere on the net.I would also be carefull obout putting guys in blinds over bait,could be interpreted my somy people as illegal guiding over bait,just saying

338shulz
Sent u a PM.
U gave me "that" pic back in the day...great buck by the way.
I have no issue with u questioning the authenticity of my "grainy" cam pics. It's the Internet so hack away if you wish.
Do note the background in most of the pics....u will see they are consistent. The large Tamarac tree is a constant backdrop since I first starting sharing intel pics three yrs ago. It is one of my primary locations that produces consistent pics of some pretty decent WT. I review as many as 2000 collective cam videos some weeks. I snap cell ph shots off my laptop of a freeze framed video when I c something half ass during review. If u take the time to analyze it's plain to see the backgrounds r consistent.

Also, I have zero concerns about "illegal guiding" as all I am doing is sharing opportunity with respected and trusted friends and colleagues of mine....two of which are a conservation officer and a up and coming wildlife biologist.

Again, great WT you killed back them.
Cheers.

[338Schulz]

Mystery solved?Thanks for your reply to my Query,I just got a little carried away with the whole thing and was just shaking that big "Tamarack" to get a reply.Thanks for your PM to which I replied,hope you get it I have a sneaking feeling I might have done it wrong.

338 Schulz

[Ourea]

All good 338....all good.l

[aggiehunter]

Ourea...are you still driving that bright yellow Lada?

[358mag]

ourea...are you still driving that bright yellow lada?

sssssssshhhhhhhhhh ................

[338Schulz]

Ladas and Zukies look alike!
LOL

[HarryToolips]

Hey guys I'm just starting white tail hunting and am quite excited to get out there this year does anyone know which mu in region 3 is a good place to start to have a decent chance to find some? Don't need honey holes just a management unit Number
3-12, 3-19, 3-20.....and I'm hearing lots around Kamloops...

[Ourea]

Was away for a week so I topped the cams up with fresh batteries and cards prior.
I was feeling a little under the weather after my trip but still managed to get up the hill for a bit upon my return.
I was having a hard time keeping things down so I only managed a couple cams before quitting.

Neat to see that the G2 buck's genes are showing on some of the deer in this small area.
Note the split on the left g2 of this youngster. If he turns into anything like his father he could be an interesting buck in a few yrs.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/G2%20Genes_zpsyj1xxcpi.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/G2%20Genes_zpsyj1xxcpi.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Here's a couple more youngsters from yesterday's pull.
Far from shooters but nice to see none the less.
When I feel a bit better I will do another sweep of all my cams and update things.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOZ6lrsvwj4

[Ourea]

Another look.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j46kDndhc9E

[zippermouth]

looks like you might have one to keep an eye on there ourea. his beams look like they might turn down if he gets some age. give him some character. sorry to hear all that fishing took so much out of you, hopefully you'll be back at er before long! :wink:

[Ourea]

looks like you might have one to keep an eye on there ourea. his beams look like they might turn down if he gets some age. give him some character. sorry to hear all that fishing took so much out of you, hopefully you'll be back at er before long! :wink:

Count on it

[epicZERO74]

Very nice trail cam vids!

[Ourea]

The more I expand my efforts looking for trophy WT the more I appreciate how little I actually "know".

I've got some of the bucks in this general area pegged reasonably well. They appear content spending a bulk of their time within a defined area disappearing on occasion for several days to a week or so.....always returning.

Then there are the wanderer's.
Bucks that never seem to be around any particular area more than a day or two......showing up on one cam one day.......showing up on another cam 2 miles away a few weeks later.....random, no discernible pattern to their movements or locations.
One could speculate that the summer range of some of these bucks is quite large.
Definitely larger than my sample area being cam'd.

Then there are the "one and done" bucks.
They show up on a cam never to be seen again.
Generally these are mature bucks.

Here is an example.
I have never seen this buck before....second yr with a cam at this location.
He was extremely cautious at the site....very nervous.
Older buck.
Never came back.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Old%20timer_zpsc6tpbjv1.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Old%20timer_zpsc6tpbjv1.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

One of the usual suspects that is fairly predictable.
This younger age class of bucks seem to hold more.

He posed nicely so I wished to share the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1w51A-NPfo

[Ourea]

Mr. Cautious



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzdzNCC84jk&feature=youtu.be

[Ourea]

Checked a group of cams yesterday.
Few does and young bucks.....pretty quiet overall.

Ran into this little fella on the way home.
This is a good sized rattlesnake for the interior.
They don't get much longer....but can get quite a bit thicker.

Although a bit intimidating they really are a passive animal seldom showing aggression.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO5Piidf_ww&feature=youtu.be

[Wrayzer]

Good stuff, that's a good looking snake.

Heres a good buck off a cam not far from civilization, taking a note out of your book...don't have to go far for good whitetail opportunities.

~[IMG]http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz287/Wrayzer/splits_zpsyy3lg73l.png (http://s836.photobucket.com/user/Wrayzer/media/splits_zpsyy3lg73l.png.html)[/IMG

[zippermouth]

theres those split g2 genetics again, nice looking wt!

[Ourea]

The usual slow down on the WT front come late summer continues.
This predictable young little 4 point might be a bit of a looker with a couple more yrs.
Has decent height and width already.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR6iGkO3YOQ

[Ourea]

Here he is again with of a few of his young friends.
There are several very solid bucks that have been MIA for over a month now.
History has shown they will show again at some point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXzqF_1PwLw

[Ourea]

Another week of none of the players making an appearance.
There is still a percentage of deer that are repeat bucks and seem to be holding in the general area.

Had a flush of three younger, never seen before bucks, come thru appearing on multiple cams over a couple days....then gone. The inconsistent ebb and flow of inventory can really mess with a guy's head when trying to nail down patterns that can be exploited. I think back to putting Coach onto his deer last yr....there were 3 other sites within a km that were dead....yet that spot went white hoy over a 3 day window with numerous bucks appearing in daylight hrs.

I get hundreds of cam videos to sort thru every week so you can get a bit numb to it at times.
This video stood out to me for 2 reasons.
Firstly, some should get a kick out of the interaction of this little buck and the raven.

What really caught my eye with this little spiker is, what appears to be, the potential of a quasi double main beam on both sides. Note his left side, there is an apparent 3rd tine growing out the back of the base.
This little fella has the hallmarks of potentially being a very "junky" and "messy" buck in the years to come.
It would be interesting to chronicle his development over the years and see where these unusual antlers end up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnSl6Xe5KwQ

[Ourea]

I have a series of cams in an different area dedicated for elk in support of a friend we would like to see put a bull on the ground. No shortage of elk action.

What is interesting from a Whitetail perspective is I have never got a WT on cam in the one spot.
Last week I dropped in another cam 300 yards lower down.
Picked up a WT right away???

Point.......the cam site 300 yards away.....that has been active for 11 months....has never captured a WT.
They are an interesting critter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8e1nX5G6B0&feature=youtu.be

[Ourea]

Worth sharing.
This spike elk got a case of the funk on.
No bugs here so he was just being goofy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7CcTZ9L5U0&feature=youtu.be

[300H&H]

Thanks for posting these videos. Are you using any bait to bring in and hold these animals ? If so, what kind has worked best ?

[Fisher-Dude]

Worth sharing.
This spike elk got a case of the funk on.
No bugs here so he was just being goofy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7CcTZ9L5U0&feature=youtu.be

That looks like 358 on the dance floor at the OK Corral.

[Ourea]

Been painfully slow on the WT front.
Last year was quiet this time for buck activity...this year has been painful the last month.
Experience has shown that come late Oct there will be a surge in numbers and activity.
I think of the location where Clayton (Snareman) killed his cranky old buck.
I didn't get a single buck on cam from early sept until oct 27th.
Then, 5 bucks in one day.

With most cams only getting a few bucks a week there isn't much I can comment on that may serve useful to others.

So, picture time then.......

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/G2%20buck1_zpstp8pk3vy.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/G2%20buck1_zpstp8pk3vy.jpg.html)

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/G2%20Buck2_zpsnvebt8e4.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/G2%20Buck2_zpsnvebt8e4.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Watch this WT doe.
She certainly turns the jets on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_qwOkymatI

[Ourea]

This buck is a repeat customer.
He has some decent width and had me a little excited he might make a big jump this year.
Disappointing that he shows little growth however.
Drought conditions in the interior will have hurt antler growth no doubt.
(Protein levels in forage are very low during drought resulting in antler growth not reaching potential)

Note his body mass and profile.
His chest and shoulders are fairly slight.
There is not the taper down to his hips.
This body profile indicates a younger buck that is not fully developed physically.

The night video is poor as battery life was almost done.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhoqJ3uIKl4

[Ourea]

One thing about cam'ing is you never know what your latest pull might show.
I enjoy "surprises" like this one.
Someone please comment on the species of this owl.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIRMwSH_de8

[elktracker1975]

Barred owl I think

[JIL_24/7]

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Barred_Owl/id

[Ourea]

The calm before the storm continues.
WT are not responding to my time table....only theirs.

It has been brutally quiet for bucks showing on cam.
I have well over 20 different bucks documented in my target area.
Cams that were capturing upwards of 1000 videos in a 10 day soak have evaporated down to few as 25 - 30 videos for the same time period.
Every cam was capturing 2 to 5 bucks up until early sept.
I only had a spike and a two point picked up out of 12 cams after ten days...lowest count of the yr.

Reviewing last years videos there definitely was a slow down...but nothing like this for bucks.

I have a very dear and close friend rolling in today for a week in "Whitetail camp".
If you were to Google Image the term "piece of work" his picture would come up.
I should have been doing crunches the last week getting ready for the endless hilarity this man brings.

To make matters worse a mutual friend is joining us Thursday.
If you have followed this thread you will remember HBC member "Snareman" .....Clayton, .... who killed an awesome cranky old buck with me his last visit.

Any day I expect the scrapes to start and bucks to show up literally out of thin air.

Going for a sit tonight with my company, hopefully he gets a doe down for his freezer.

[Ourea]

Despite the painful absence of bucks I thought I would try something and quantify the results.

I've read positive things about this product.
I will share what the camera captures of how bucks respond........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqPWqixfHW0

[Wrayzer]

Looking forward to following along to see how the next two months go for you guys.

[Salty]

Just spent some time in north Boundary region Ourea and found the same drought for buck activity. The day before my last there though I did find a couple small scrapes in pretty thick timber with a lot of hardwood at valley bottom. I hit it with some estrus scent and the next day he had gone nuts, both scraping and rubbing like crazy. My guess is it was just starting to happen 4 days ago.

[two-feet]

Great thread! Love to see the dedication and willingness to learn, thanks for taking us along.

[Sitkaspruce]

Been a funny year for me as well. It has been dry, very dry for buck activity this year.....3 small fork horns and 1 young 4x4 and that's it, for 7 cams out, all but 2 in the usual spots.

Set up some barley and a cam at the spot last year where we killed two bucks; had half a dozen does with twins show up all summer long, left the grain for a week.....not one animal, not even a rabbit so far. Time will tell as this has been a great spot in the last two years.......

Hopefully the cooler weather and increased deer activity will start to produce.

Good luck to all who are out looking for Mr. Big!!!

Cheers

SS

[Fisher-Dude]

WT are not responding to my time table....only theirs.



Follow my advice and it will pay off. Remember, high side of the road! Always!

[two-feet]

So what are the theories, where are the bucks

[Husky7mm]

The bucks are where the best feed is right now even if its miles away from where they were. The last of the good growth. Green clover is getting hammered right now. Recent cut hay fields, burns, recent built pipelines and clearcuts, anywhere that was disturbed that puts the growth behind so it didnt dry out early like everything else.
I cant relate to the dryest areas of the interior of BC cause I dont live or hunt there, but I would be looking on the north slopes.

The scapes have been happening for about a week in my neck of the woods, but I would have to agree the bucks have gone underground for over a month. Today for the first time in weeks I noticed a large spike in game activity, right after a cold front just moved in.

[lovemywinchester]

Great thread Ourea. Hope you get some nice bucks on cam coming up. I look forward to your updates. One thing I have noticed in my areas I hunt around Kamloops is that its rare to get the same buck on cam more then once. It seems they just roll through and keep moving. I seem to get a buck per week or so. I obviously need better spots. Makes it tough to try and sit one out.

Speaking of scrapes, here is one from the end of last Nov.

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l573/zippogold/scrape_zpsqm9tp58r.jpg (http://s1124.photobucket.com/user/zippogold/media/scrape_zpsqm9tp58r.jpg.html)

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Last year the first week of November showed the most buck activity of the season. Had at least a dozen different bucks stroll through although the vast majority were during darkness

[GoatGuy]

Keep up the good work young road grasshopper

[Husky7mm]

Follow my advice and it will pay off. Remember, high side of the road! Always!

I have passed on a few legal bull elk while road hunting my way to my spot and they were on the low side of the road, true story. 6 point bull elk right from the road. You can earn them the hard way or the easy way both seem to have results.
Sometimes if I am the driver and I see game that is not on my side of the truck I fix that by driving backwards up the road, problem solving at its finest. Husky, always the shooter haha! JJ

[Ourea]

Must admit I was getting a little nervous.
It was getting into Nov and I hadn't even seen a scrape yet!

After a 5 day break I just pulled some cams.
It has gone from zero to sixty in a few days.....a good week later than last year for this general area.

I was seeing numerous scrapes around my cam areas....very encouraging after such a long drought.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Rub2_zpsxyrrdgib.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Rub2_zpsxyrrdgib.jpg.html)

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Rub1_zpsi70xkgtu.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Rub1_zpsi70xkgtu.jpg.html)

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Scrape2_zpsuy2iomif.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Scrape2_zpsuy2iomif.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

One of my cams is set up on a pretty aggressive rub line.
I see there are few recent rubs and multiple scrapes the last few days.
One of the scrapes is 40 feet in front of the cam.

Always one to be trying different things and quantifying the results I dug in my pack and pulled out this.....

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Tinks_zps5fiexmf4.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Tinks_zps5fiexmf4.jpg.html)

The product "purports", once applied to a fresh scrape, to increase the frequency in which mature bucks will then revisit.
Obviously the only time it makes sense to do this is at the early stages of when WT are making their initial scrapes.
As the rut get's closer bucks have less of a tendency to revisit their scrapes.

Set the drip jug and poured some of the mock scrape liquid into an active scrape and dug it into the soil with my boot.
This is dead center in front of a cam so it should capture the bucks reaction when he returns.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Drip_zpskedwf7p1.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Drip_zpskedwf7p1.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Bucks are starting to make a presence, albeit overdue.
Healthy little 5 point.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Avg%20Buck_zpsyxvitgwc.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Avg%20Buck_zpsyxvitgwc.jpg.html)

Although handsome, nowhere close to what we are looking for

[Ourea]

This young buck is on the "protect" list.
Note the SPLIT G2!!!
He could turn into something very interesting if given at least a couple years.
Note his sausage body, far from a mature buck.
I wonder if he is a son of the G2 buck that I still dream about?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ztGgOvxe8k

[Ourea]

Here is the previously mentioned G2 buck.
Three years ago I could have killed him on 2 different occasions buy passed knowing he was a younger buck and still had a lot of potential for more growth.


http://vid787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/coach108/MoreMrSplitG2_zps96d2a592.mp4


This is the year after I let him walk......did he beef up in the bone department!!!!
To say I would get extremely excited if this buck shows again would be an UNDERSTATEMENT!!!

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/heavyWT_zps7b3989f3.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/heavyWT_zps7b3989f3.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Note the similar genetics on this buck we were on last year


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gCFwf0Zajo

[Ourea]

Back to the present.......
Another younger buck doing some recent scenting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEosrkuGRnM

[Ourea]

Similar activity being demonstrated 3 miles away.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hyh_r09Mzc&feature=youtu.be

[Ourea]

Never too young.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQBmVvlFOVo

[Ourea]

Certainly get my share of these on cam.
Note how he appears to be scenting on the base of the tree.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewQK3MDiNKc

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Thanks for sharing, Ourea! Always enjoy this thread! Just switched my cams over to video mode as you recommended. Certainly shows more than just still shots.
I've got a buck showing up in one spot almost every night. I've had him on camera for the past four years and he was a solid buck four years ago. Previous years I only got one picture of him each year....but as he's getting older I think his needs have changed more to survival than spreading his genes.
He's been going downhill antler wise each year and now he has to be in the 8 year old range.
Not one single daylight appearance....so far.

[Wrayzer]

Thanks for sharing, Ourea! Always enjoy this thread! Just switched my cams over to video mode as you recommended. Certainly shows more than just still shots.
I've got a buck showing up in one spot almost every night. I've had him on camera for the past four years and he was a solid buck four years ago. Previous years I only got one picture of him each year....but as he's getting older I think his needs have changed more to survival than spreading his genes.
He's been going downhill antler wise each year and now he has to be in the 8 year old range.
Not one single daylight appearance....so far.

Very interesting SSS. Itd be interesting to see the regression in his antler growth over the past 4 years.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Very interesting SSS. Itd be interesting to see the regression in his antler growth over the past 4 years.

He's never been anything special antler wise. The first year I had him on cam he was maybe a 135-140" 5 point. Now he's lop-sided and is only a 4x4....but he's a horse body-wise.

[steepNdeep]

Times have changed! Orea has gone to the dark side -chasin whitey vermin... ;) Nice bucks!

[Ourea]

Times have changed! Orea has gone to the dark side -chasin whitey vermin... ;) Nice bucks!

The more time I spend trying to figure out elite WT in this area the more intrigued, and sometimes, the more confused I get.
If that is "the dark side".....call me Darth Vader then.

I hope others are enjoying me sharing my misery in their pursuit.

[Wentrot]

The more time I spend trying to figure out elite WT in this area the more intrigued, and sometimes, the more confused I get.
If that is "the dark side".....call me Darth Vader then.

I hope others are enjoying me sharing my misery in their pursuit.

Certainly has me drooling on the sidelines. I'm curious to see how your scrape experiment goes.

[Xenomorph]

The more time I spend trying to figure out elite WT in this area the more intrigued, and sometimes, the more confused I get.
If that is "the dark side".....call me Darth Vader then.

I hope others are enjoying me sharing my misery in their pursuit.

Enjoying every bit of it and building up the case for more "gun" products with the boss. Keep posting my friend.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

edit- the buck from 2012. If he was 4 back them that would put him at only 7. I knew I had four years of pics but I made some bad math.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12249755_195960067407216_6726838446610979937_n.jpg ?oh=248fee3a7443eeaac74d0be334709aba&oe=56F48429

And here he is from 2015. It's easy to see his similarities from head on.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11707401_195959120740644_8099396798142914297_n.jpg ?oh=eeebd423320e6079221d6c314b15bee8&oe=56AF672D
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12249687_195959130740643_1965551176623110679_n.jpg ?oh=b8b83df162c55dcf30d0c5eb4f626fc1&oe=56B77ECA

[Ourea]

Not a "numbers" buck per se SSS but a character buck.
I prefer bucks like that over a clean 150" 7 days a week.

[Ourea]

I managed to sneak up late this afternoon to pull a few more cams.
The recent and sudden activity has got me anxious to see what some of my other cams have to show.
Amazing how quick the WT switch goes "on".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEZwWqAd0E

[Ourea]

This dink buck has been logging some serious miles the last few days.
Got him on several cams miles away.
Cam is running out of juice thus the short defaulted video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-hweEnOB_k

[Ourea]

Nice to see some better bucks announcing their presence.
Another on the "protect" list.
Note his similar genetics to the post #377 buck.
He's just a younger version.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufZM9jELEhg

[Ourea]

Another look from a cam running on fumes........rechargeable batteries have their limitations.
Encouraging that there are more young bucks coming down the pipe that show excellent promise.
The next age class of bucks will show as things heat up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2SIic_5ThI

[Ourea]

From yet another cam site.
Serious WT hunters need no insight from me.....they know.
Having said that it appears to be ON !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZcyWGDVyW8

The real players aren't too far off.

As the cooler weather rolls in and the snow comes we should start to see these nocturnal vampires make the odd daytime appearance.
If and when they do the core WT hunters will be waiting.

[Tīɡ]

Thanks again for posting! Great vids!

[kennyj]

Sweet!! I love this thread. Nice to see the bucks showing up.
Thanks again for sharing this.
kenny

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Not a "numbers" buck per se SSS but a character buck.
I prefer bucks like that over a clean 150" 7 days a week.

I hear ya. The only numbers I'm concerned with lately is #'s of meat in my freezer....and this guy looks like he has a healthy amount of meat on his frame. Too bad I'm tagged out. Maybe the kid can connect.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

BTW-Don't use the cheap Defiant batteries that Home Depot is selling right now. I can't get 6 days out of them.

[Ricky Bobby]

BTW-Don't use the cheap Defiant batteries that Home Depot is selling right now. I can't get 6 days out of them.

Thats because they put AAA guts in a AA case.

[NorBC]

First season trying the white tail thing.. Have a bunch of 120-130 bucks on cam now, they're coming in the day also. Big boys should be coming soon hopefully. Have to admit it's pretty fun so far.

[tufferthandug]

This thread is pure gold. Much appreciated Ourea. I utilize many of the findings in my "Cam Program".

[Ourea]

This thread is pure gold. Much appreciated Ourea. I utilize many of the findings in my "Cam Program".

I am hoping my observations and the various tactics and product tests I report may help others in looking for, finding......and hopefully killing above average whitetail.

[Looking_4_Jerky]

Ourea, thanks! There has been a lot of complaining lately that the site is a bunch of "same old, same old". While I agree to a certain extent, there's still a lot of learning to be had. Your thread is the best example.

Keep on keepin on, and I hope "the king" (not Elvis...) crosses your path this fall!
Jerky.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

edit- the buck from 2012. If he was 4 back them that would put him at only 7. I knew I had four years of pics but I made some bad math.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12249755_195960067407216_6726838446610979937_n.jpg ?oh=248fee3a7443eeaac74d0be334709aba&oe=56F48429

And here he is from 2015. It's easy to see his similarities from head on.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11707401_195959120740644_8099396798142914297_n.jpg ?oh=eeebd423320e6079221d6c314b15bee8&oe=56AF672D
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12249687_195959130740643_1965551176623110679_n.jpg ?oh=b8b83df162c55dcf30d0c5eb4f626fc1&oe=56B77ECA

Forgot where I put this pic but finally found it on my phone. Same buck from 2014. He reminded me of a football player with no neck.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12242999_196252114044678_573764407619433234_n.jpg? oh=941e28a8b93ac7baaf184f15e8cdb398&oe=56EECE94

[Sitkaspruce]

This is such a great thread!!!! Thanks to all for keeping it going.

I will add some of mine.

Here is a few from this year so far. Been pretty slim for those 3.5+ year old bucks this year so far. Lots of spikers, forks and thee/small four pointers, but the "boys" are far and in between.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Sitkaspruce/2015%20Game%20Camera/EK001720_zpss8xpdqxv.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Sitkaspruce/media/2015%20Game%20Camera/EK001720_zpss8xpdqxv.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Sitkaspruce/2015%20Game%20Camera/EK001555_zpsrri6vsdj.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Sitkaspruce/media/2015%20Game%20Camera/EK001555_zpsrri6vsdj.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Sitkaspruce/2015%20Game%20Camera/EK001548_zpsbz2qioz6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Sitkaspruce/media/2015%20Game%20Camera/EK001548_zpsbz2qioz6.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Sitkaspruce/2015%20Game%20Camera/PICT0412_zpscn1tqvm2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Sitkaspruce/media/2015%20Game%20Camera/PICT0412_zpscn1tqvm2.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Sitkaspruce/2015%20Game%20Camera/PICT0406_zps9nsvcv88.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Sitkaspruce/media/2015%20Game%20Camera/PICT0406_zps9nsvcv88.jpg.html)

Have a few more on video, plus a real cool muley buck. Will get to them another time.

Cheers

SS

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Guessing it's the record temps this past week but the action on my cams has completely evaporated. Anyone else?

[Ourea]

Guessing it's the record temps this past week but the action on my cams has completely evaporated. Anyone else?

It has been an interesting and odd year to say the least in our area SSS.
Some off my most consistent cam locations have been a bust lately.
Having said that, ......my G2 cam has been heating up.
Cams I have within 400 and 600 meters of it have zero action.

I am pretty strategic where I place cams and have never had a location not produce at least a few videos over a one week period.
That is not the case this fall.

I feel your pain SSS.
But, it only serves to motivate me further.

On that note, I am going to throw on the rain gear and hit some more cams in this deluge of rain we have going on right now.
Weather has not been our friend lately.
Pointless to complain......just need to roll with the punches and try and adapt.

[tufferthandug]

Guessing it's the record temps this past week but the action on my cams has completely evaporated. Anyone else?
Cams dried out on the 9th. Last night the does finally came around again. Funny thing was the bucks came in too, and wouldn't leave does alone. They kept chasing them around the bait pile.
To note, the bucks didn't stop to eat anything.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

That's good to know. My daughter and I sat dark to 3:10 yesterday with zero sightings. I pulled the cards when we left as I can't look at the videos until I get home anyhow. No surprise there was zilch on the cams since Tuesday.
I think I need to ramp up my time afield in next two weeks since I'm tagged out and my daughter is only good for one weekend day at best. Damn teenage years!! LOL!

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Forgot where I put this pic but finally found it on my phone. Same buck from 2014. He reminded me of a football player with no neck.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12242999_196252114044678_573764407619433234_n.jpg? oh=941e28a8b93ac7baaf184f15e8cdb398&oe=56EECE94

Found the missing pics from 2013. He probably peeked out this year. You can sure see his girth in the second pic.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12227781_197012430635313_2828882180310190911_n.jpg ?oh=762029619d63b05b98980f55e4232430&oe=56B9D752
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12246730_197012597301963_1433844553673726146_n.jpg ?oh=f02aa58a91b256a3498ec3e17ed46f06&oe=56AF01EE

[Buck]

This buck was seen wednesday anyone hazard a guess where?

http://http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii159/Ramcam-Photos/image1.jpg (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/Ramcam-Photos/media/image1.jpg.html)

[Bc Deer Hunter]

[QUOTE=Buck;1713094]This buck was seen wednesday anyone hazard a guess where?

http://http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii159/Ramcam-Photos/image1.jpg (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/Ramcam-Photos/media/image1.jpg.html)[/Q
Tunkwa whitie.

[358mag]

[QUOTE=Buck;1713094]This buck was seen wednesday anyone hazard a guess where?

http://http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii159/Ramcam-Photos/image1.jpg (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/Ramcam-Photos/media/image1.jpg.html)[/Q
Tunkwa whitie.
Clearwater

[two-feet]

So do you guys figure the bucks disperse far and wide outside of the rut, resulting in such low densities that they are rarely seen?

[RadHimself]

kal lake park....

there is a MONSTER hangng out there... in the no hunting zone

[Walking Buffalo]

So do you guys figure the bucks disperse far and wide outside of the rut, resulting in such low densities that they are rarely seen?


No. For your dispersal theory to be valid, resulting low buck densities could only be achieved by animals travelling to areas that WT's don't currently occupy.

Why would a buck spend it's rutting time looking for does where there are none when it could be hanging out with the girls?

[wideopenthrottle]

I hear those WT doe s swing both ways sometimes ...heheheh

[Ourea]

Really wanted to zip up late yesterday to top things up and check on some key cams.
The heavy snow that was now coming down up top had been the missing ingredient.
I was concerned about cams being covered by snow impeding their ability to capture images.
I didn't want to take a chance that any cams would be sitting "blind" for a day or two.
My fear was that I might miss that one video that would make me go all in on one spot
Glad I checked.



http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/frozen%20cam2_zpsbq0udjkd.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/frozen%20cam2_zpsbq0udjkd.jpg.html)

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Frozen%20cam1_zpsxh5oq4xb.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Frozen%20cam1_zpsxh5oq4xb.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Finally getting some daytime buck movement.
Just juvie's but it is a good sign of things to come.
Still a bit before the better bucks show......and the recent dump of snow is sure going to help in the process.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytkeOmjhk7s

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mCm5wsE830

[Ourea]

Coming into prime time so the work is ramping up.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yucWw5ymewY

[Ourea]

Cams dried out on the 9th. Last night the does finally came around again. Funny thing was the bucks came in too, and wouldn't leave does alone. They kept chasing them around the bait pile.
To note, the bucks didn't stop to eat anything.

Very good observation and bang on.
Anyone thinking you simply drop down some attractant and...voila....you kill a buck.....WRONG.
Using attractants will modify deer behavior (primarily does) to a certain extent allowing you to get an understanding of the inventory.

Modifying doe behavior "may" in turn cause bucks to adjust and perhaps spend a bit more time in a concentrated area.
This time of the year bucks seldom spend any time on attractants and usually past by merely sniffing nose to the ground in pursuit of does.
No does in estrous and these mature bucks don't brake stride and move on.

[Ourea]

Pic time.......
Repeat customer.
Will be nice to see him in several more years.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs3TmPU8nj0

[Ourea]

Nice to see the odd decent buck showing up.

Note.....I did spray the juniper bush with "Doe Bomb" and he appears to take a brief interest but far from a "magnet".
I am not going to slag any product but just pass on observations about how WT are (or not) reacting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bu17UZ3yxc

[Ourea]

Half a pound of pure evil.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et5DKb_8CVE

[wideopenthrottle]

looks like a martin to me...hard to judge size though could it be a fisher?

[Husky7mm]

Nice to see the odd decent buck showing up.

Note.....I did spray the juniper bush with "Doe Bomb" and he appears to take a brief interest but far from a "magnet".
I am not going to slag any product but just pass on observations about how WT are (or not) reacting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bu17UZ3yxc

Ya, I sprayed doe bomb all over a punky stump and returned 2 days later after a fresh dump of the great equalizer.... The bucks walked right past it, not even a pause. I will file it under junk.
It does make your finger smell pretty pissy after yoi spray it though. IMO some much of the scents and cover sents are just snake oil and designed for nothing other than to fool hunters.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

I forgot to use them last Saturday when we were in the blind...but I kept the tarsal glands off my WT buck (shot Nov 1).
Heading out today to check cams and am not sure if I should put out the tarsals near the cams...or...wait until we are back in the field and maybe use them in conjunction with rattling??? Thoughts??

[Fisher-Dude]

Ya, I sprayed doe bomb all over a punky stump and returned 2 days later after a fresh dump of the great equalizer.... The bucks walked right past it, not even a pause. I will file it under junk.
It does make your finger smell pretty pissy after yoi spray it though. IMO some much of the scents and cover sents are just snake oil and designed for nothing other than to fool hunters.

Saw a test done with doe urine, human urine, and Aqua Velva.

None of them was given any more attention than the others by the bucks.

[coach]

Saw a test done with doe urine, human urine, and Aqua Velva.

None of them was given any more attention than the others by the bucks.

Posting about the girls you hang out with, Pat?

[J_T]

I forgot to use them last Saturday when we were in the blind...but I kept the tarsal glands off my WT buck (shot Nov 1).
Heading out today to check cams and am not sure if I should put out the tarsals near the cams...or...wait until we are back in the field and maybe use them in conjunction with rattling??? Thoughts?? Like most hunters, I've toyed with tarsal glands and scents of all types over the years. I've never really been able to conclusively say, that anything works. I've strapped a tarsal gland on my boot as well and I'd like to say a big buck snuck up behind me. But it didn't happen. What I really like is hunting in wet rain and sleet conditions. It just beats down all scent. I'm heading out this weekend to check my cameras and for the first time in a number of years, I'm thinking I might hang some doe scent. I'll have to see what's on the cameras.

[Fisher-Dude]

I forgot to use them last Saturday when we were in the blind...but I kept the tarsal glands off my WT buck (shot Nov 1).
Heading out today to check cams and am not sure if I should put out the tarsals near the cams...or...wait until we are back in the field and maybe use them in conjunction with rattling??? Thoughts??

We know my dog was sure interested in the back of your truck when you had some tarsal glands in your pack! Deer, on the other hand...

[.264winmag]

Done the tarsal gland thing, doe piss, buck piss from a nov. buck I shot, spray scent, hanging scents, still just seeing dinks and most of the time they hardly pay it any attention. Food to keep does around is only thing I've found reliable. And even then them bucks can round em up/gone faster than I can get the crosshairs on em half the time. Them bucks want the real thing IMO. Rattled in a few dinks, it should work for good bucks too!

[Ourea]

My, how things have changed.
Cams are lighting up.
One of my better locations had just under 1200 videos in 2 1/2 days.....and vast majority are daytime.
Far cry from the 30 vids in a week I was getting just a short time ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml9fZsypS4o&feature=youtu.be

[Ourea]

Juvie bucks are sitting on the does in this location.
Very killable.
I have yet to sit in any of my blinds.
Waiting for the flush of mature bucks.
Shouldn't be much longer!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ugwk6btJgo&feature=youtu.be

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2faNZa7Ngg&feature=youtu.be

[guest]

Cool footage, good share

[Ourea]

The "classic" buck on a doe trot


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmqGUM-9oCA

[Ourea]

Couple juvies playing around.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc5WFY-A9-Q

[Ourea]

This is a very mature buck...the kind I am trying to target.
A bit frustrating we cant see the top half of his antlers to know if he is a potential shooter.
Note his body mass and head compared to the juvenile bucks I have posted.

That is not as frustrating as the fact I have 3 other cams within several hundred meters and none of those picked him up.
Stealthy buggers.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKz93Jb_8rA

[Brambles]

Yup that hurts...

[tuner]

A potential shooter Ourea? What more convincing evidence do you need? You must come from a region with an embarrassment of riches! HE'S A SHOOTER TRUST ME!!!! :mrgreen:

[.264winmag]

Looks like a dandy to me! Good luck getting a look at him, love the videos.

[coach]

A potential shooter Ourea? What more convincing evidence do you need?

You're talking to a guy who rarely even packs his rifle - one of the most SELECTIVE hunters anyone will ever meet! Fairly certain it's killing him not knowing what's up top on that buck. Hopefully there will be another sighting soon. In the meantime, I'm pretty sure the rifle will be in the pack from this point forward.. :shock:

[Ourea]

A potential shooter Ourea? What more convincing evidence do you need? You must come from a region with an embarrassment of riches! HE'S A SHOOTER TRUST ME!!!! :mrgreen:


The area I am trying to prove a point in has low WT density, endless cut blocks, heavy pressure and ridiculous FSR density....far from riches when it comes to WT and their huntability. People are complaining there are no WT left in this area...that the doe season has ruined it.
"Endless riches"....absolutely not.

When it comes to a "shooter" I am not looking for a big buck....I am looking for "the" buck.
I love the challenge.
I don't hunt elite animals for me ego, to beat on my chest, or for recognition.
I haven't posted my best animals because I don't care what others think.
I hunt for what makes me satisfied.

I simply enjoy the process of figuring tough things out and commit heavily to the process.
I am sure there are numerous hunters out there that could probably school me on WT....and I am absolutely fine with that.

My attitude is........
If you cant outsmart someone or something....you need to outcompete them.
No different in business.

[tuner]

The area I am trying to prove a point in has low WT density, endless cut blocks, heavy pressure and ridiculous FSR density....far from riches when it comes to WT and their huntability. People are complaining there are no WT left in this area...that the doe season has ruined it.
"Endless riches"....absolutely not.

When it comes to a "shooter" I am not looking for a big buck....I am looking for "the" buck.
I love the challenge.
I don't hunt elite animals for me ego, to beat on my chest, or for recognition.
I haven't posted my best animals because I don't care what others think.
I hunt for what makes me satisfied.

I simply enjoy the process of figuring tough things out and commit heavily to the process.
I am sure there are numerous hunters out there that could probably school me on WT....and I am absolutely fine with that.

My attitude is........
If you cant outsmart someone or something....you need to outcompete them.
No different in business.
I admire your self restraint, most hunters I know would be thrilled with that animal.

[Ourea]

I admire your self restraint, most hunters I know would be thrilled with that animal.

Sadly, I'm even worse with MD and elk

[Xenomorph]

Sadly, I'm even worse with MD and elk

Your wife must be special... I tip my hat as well, lots of effort, patience. Things to be admired for.

[Ourea]

Your wife must be special... I tip my hat as well, lots of effort, patience. Things to be admired for.

Without a doubt my biggest over achievement in life.

Similar to a very special MD I have on the wall, I never stop admiring her.

[Brambles]

Ourea, did u ever put some hair on that MD or still euro?

[Ourea]

Ourea, did u ever put some hair on that MD or still euro?

What MD?
:-)

[Brambles]

Gee must be thinking of someone else...

[Husky7mm]

Without a doubt my biggest over achievement in life.

Similar to a very special MD I have on the wall, I never stop admiring her.

I got one like that too, she is my greatest trophy, and has a fine rack too. Lol

[Elkaholic]

Is that mature buck making a snort wheeze on that video? I turned it up pretty high and it sounds like it. That is pretty neat, I always enjoy the neat or unique things that trail cameras pick up.

[Ourea]

Is that mature buck making a snort wheeze on that video? I turned it up pretty high and it sounds like it. That is pretty neat, I always enjoy the neat or unique things that trail cameras pick up.


As much as I love the Browning cams for their incredible detection and trigger speed ......their sound recording capability is below average.

[Walking Buffalo]

This is a very mature buck...the kind I am trying to target.
A bit frustrating we cant see the top half of his antlers to know if he is a potential shooter.
Note his body mass and head compared to the juvenile bucks I have posted.

That is not as frustrating as the fact I have 3 other cams within several hundred meters and none of those picked him up.
Stealthy buggers.......


My guess....

145-150", four year old deer.

Thanks for the videos. Fun to watch.

I've never thought of you as a selective hunter.... :mrgreen:

[Ourea]

My guess....

145-150", four year old deer.

Thanks for the videos. Fun to watch.

I've never thought of you as a selective hunter.... :mrgreen:

I can't throw a number on that buck as I can only see an inch or two of tine.
Some of the bucks we see have ridiculous tine length in this area.....some are weak.
Pure speculation as one his number could be.

Four year old deer?
Agree to disagree on that one.

Selective hunter...me?
Haha
You almost walked away on me during our extensive elk hunt back in the day.
I do recall you became quite frustrated with me on several occasions for not pulling the trigger.
Sorry, I wanted 400"+.
We knew they were there.

[Ourea]

It has literally gone off in one of my primary locations.
These scrapes and deer activity were not present 3 short days ago.
Hopefully something shows up that will get me invested in sitting in one of my blinds.

Check this out.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE8c1r31uak

[Walking Buffalo]

I can't throw a number on that buck as I can only see an inch or two of tine.
Some of the bucks we see have ridiculous tine length in this area.....some are weak.
Pure speculation as one his number could be.

Four year old deer?
Agree to disagree on that one.

Selective hunter...me?
Haha
You almost walked away on me during our extensive elk hunt back in the day.
I do recall you became quite frustrated with me on several occasions for not pulling the trigger.
Sorry, I wanted 400"+.
We knew they were there.


CR&C talk....


I have plenty of experience with having to make a snap decision on a WT's size with only a quick partial view of the antlers.... error on the side of caution.
It's frustrating and fun to reflect on the number of times that I now think I should have made fire....


Average Main beams, 21"
Short brows, 3 1/2 -4"
Average mass, 18/side
Average IS, 18-19"

IF he has good but not exceptional tine length on the P2,3 and 4, say 9, 9 and six inches....

Then that's a 150" deer.

Of course I could be wrong, make him "The Buck" and we'll see. :)




I don't think he would be any older than 5 at the most. Wide forehead and a long snout, still not getting that Roman nose short face look.
He sure has a big pot belly, full of treats someone was so kind as to deliver.


As to the 400" elk, I was never frustrated that you didn't shoot a couple of those bulls, more like baffled. ;)
Those hunts were way too much fun to be brought down by the lack of blood, and they wouldn't have been nearly as memorable with an easy and fast kill.
Good times....

[Eva_Hunts]

Just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of this, I am well captivated!

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkWpJn_8anY

[Ourea]

The younger bucks are chasing does none stop.
Sure this must be extremely annoying for them having their day constantly disrupted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76lTyX-MeNk

[Ourea]

Handsome fella.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay0aozZu3po

[Ourea]

Nice to see more and more bucks showing up.
The daytime appearances are very encouraging to say the least.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5aqy1n0TzA

[Ourea]

I really enjoy videos that capture different animals interacting.
No disputing who's the boss here!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnAHeJb_1Q0

[Ourea]

Still waiting on a hammer to show.
I am starting to narrow it down to 4 or 5 key spots to focus on for the last week.
I can't be trying to monitor 20 cams that are over a 8 square kilometer area.

Pulled the favored G2 cam tonight.
The area had been worked over again....... multiple fresh scrapes.
I was very frustrated upon reviewing the card once home.
!00 blank 20 second videos.....the IR is not working.....timing on this cam to fail couldn't be worse.
I will be up first thing and swap it out as I need eyes on this key location.

This little fella has become a regular at a different location......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COBSY3B_eeM

[300H&H]

Thanks for posting the videos

[hunter1947]

Thanks for all the hard work you have given to us members on this Thread the pictures and videos are as good as you can get them keep them coming..

[358mag]

My guess....

145-150", four year old deer.

Thanks for the videos. Fun to watch.

I've never thought of you as a selective hunter.... :mrgreen:
Hummmm you must of forgot a few lady's nights back at Night Moves in the 90's ............http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon6.png

[Walking Buffalo]

Hummmm you must of forgot a few lady's nights back at Night Moves in the 90's ............http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon6.png

I've definitely forgotten bout a few nights hunting that honey hole.

Ourea was a selective hunter back then? lol....

A pre-rut young buck coming into some rattling....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2nuWNJzvIg


Trying to pop my "imbed Video" cherry....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/p2nuWNJzvIg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Still needs poppin'..... arrg!

Yes!..... :mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2nuWNJzvIg

[Stone Sheep Steve]

I've definitely forgotten bout a few nights hunting that honey hole.

Ourea was a selective hunter back then? lol....

Trying to pop my "imbed Video" cherry.... A pre-rut young buck coming into some rattling....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2nuWNJzvIg

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/p2nuWNJzvIg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Swing and a miss. Don't worry, WB. I can't figure embedding either. My always have to call my daughter.

Nice buck!

[Walking Buffalo]

Swing and a miss. Don't worry, WB. I can't figure embedding either. My always have to call my daughter.

Nice buck!


That little film Icon "insert video" is the ticket. :)

He definitely had potential, never did find him again in the following years.... he had a wide thee point buddy with him that day.
The wide one was nothing special besides his width, until last year.
Had a split second chance and I missed him on a full run.... ARRRGH!!!! a true 200" deer, heavy six plus a sticker off each p2, easily 30" on the outside spread....
Once these deer get to be past four or five in age, they become a completely different beast, So incredibly cagey.

The lack of Mature bucks on Ourea's cams doesn't surprise me, but I do think they are around. I have no way of supporting this thought, but I think the old guys have learned that these bait sites are a danger zone, and they just simply will not go there.


The young ones are a different story, it doesn't take much to fool them.
This one was birddogging hard, you can see him passing left to right in the aspens at the start of the vid....
Either he didn't heart the grunting or didn't care, but the rattling turned him 180 and he came in from 300 yards to within 10.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iub9qWG0m4

[hare_assassin]

Swing and a miss. Don't worry, WB. I can't figure embedding either. My always have to call my daughter.

Nice buck!

All you have to do is put the word "video" encased in square brackets before the link, and then put "/video" encased in square brackets after the link. Dead simple. (Remove the quotes, of course).

[Ourea]

Pulled some cams last night.
Just the usual juveniles.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX-MSjNvJDw

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRsLl3Ttv2M

[Ourea]

Numerous killable bucks showing in daylight hours.
As an FYI to you WT hunters.....I am getting numerous bucks on cam from 12pm to 12:45pm the last several days.
Worth mentioning


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvEh1qgYuEc

[Ourea]

Getting numerous videos of youngsters sparring


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkU0nseFQHI

[Ourea]

The beat goes on....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPpNZEwkg9c

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90NCoNVBOBA

[steepNdeep]

Numerous killable bucks showing in daylight hours.
As an FYI to you WT hunters.....I am getting numerous bucks on cam from 12pm to 12:45pm the last several days.
Worth mentioning


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvEh1qgYuEc

Nice. I think it depends where u set them up. I had mine on the edge of a bedding area & got my biggest whitey on film mid Nov. ~noon also...

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_e0yvpHVdQ

[Ourea]

Ever wonder what a buck looks like when he's making a scrape!?
Have a peek.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC2B07MRaYw

Weather forecast is calling for a good dump of snow followed by an artic high with cold temps.
Things are setting up nicely!!!!
I have yet to carry a gun this season.......that's about to change going down the home stretch.
Better bucks will show......

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Ok I think I got it.

heres a teaser clip of a streaking buck. It's not easy to see on a phone so use a bigger screen if you can. Look at the left side and you can see him turn his head right at the end. Looks like a decent frame?
time is off by two hours


http://youtu.be/oW4Tnstq2gMi

[Fisher-Dude]

Yesterday was the peak of the rut at 7:30 am.

Why? Because at that very time, a nice WT buck chasing a doe ran out in front of me at 250 yards and stopped broadside long enough to get 160 grains of Ackley power. ;)

It's all over for another year.

[Xenomorph]

Yesterday was the peak of the rut at 7:30 am.

Why? Because at that very time, a nice WT buck chasing a doe ran out in front of me at 250 yards and stopped broadside long enough to get 160 grains of Ackley power. ;)

It's all over for another year.

Lovely, I missed my chance on Saturday just before 4pm. Got out for a last "glass" and there he was with the ladies looking at me "What's up stupid?!?"

[smallfry14]

Yesterday was the peak of the rut at 7:30 am.

Why? Because at that very time, a nice WT buck chasing a doe ran out in front of me at 250 yards and stopped broadside long enough to get 160 grains of Ackley power. ;)

It's all over for another year.

Pics or it didn't happen ;)

[Xenomorph]

Pics or it didn't happen ;)

HA! I just snorted my espresso

[Ourea]

I am going to bow out of this thread on helping others and sharing my WT experiences for a bit.
I did this to help others....not to be exploited.
Not saying HBC has produced this problem........just covering my tracks

I have a bird dogger on me....following my tracks......sitting on my sites......in my blinds!!!
This wonderful hunter/douche bag has gone so far as to delete an SG card.....at one site....leaving the cam open and the cam turned off to cover his tracks.

Idiot didn't see the second cam.

To you.....u orange touqued skinny loser, with ur cheap camo, blue vest, ur an absolute douche.
Ur face is going up on social media.
Thanks for the cigarette buts you left in my blind .
Its a none smoking blind u F****

I still cant get over how low some, as a member of "our" hunting community, will go.

I find and hunt elite animals......that's what I do .....you will be the easiest target ever.
Ur an absolute embarrassment to our sport.
An embarrassment as a human being.

If you have kids......what a mentor you are.
I feel sorry for you.

[Crom]

Let's see him...

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Not cool. Those double cam set ups can sure provide justice.

[.264winmag]

Ya where is his face plastered on? What a clown. I had a expensive set up stolen a couple years ago, was a present from the wife. I can't wait until the pics can get sent to my email etc. Anybody know of that's available yet? I'm pretty sure I know who it was, I will get him one day.

[338Schulz]

Cant blame you for bowing out but really hate to see you go, was really looking forward to reading your posts in the mornings and i hope we see a mugshot of this scum bag soon,season's not over------------

[hntcrazy]

Please post picture of this great hunter............

[Wrayzer]

Tragic Ourea, I was really looking forward to see how the whitetails played out and if the big boys finally did show. Your dedication to pursuing the whitetails and sharing your discoveries of these animals with us is much appreciated.
I hope the other stations were not messed with...

[Knute]

Oh man I hate seeing a good informative thread being f***ed up by some loser.

Ourea, much respect from this reader. Thank you and good luck going forward.

[Gateholio]

I am going to bow out of this thread on helping others and sharing my WT experiences for a bit.
I did this to help others....not to be exploited.
Not saying HBC has produced this problem........just covering my tracks

I have a bird dogger on me....following my tracks......sitting on my sites......in my blinds!!!
This wonderful hunter/douche bag has gone so far as to delete an SG card.....at one site....leaving the cam open and the cam turned off to cover his tracks.

Idiot didn't see the second cam.

To you.....u orange touqued skinny loser, with ur cheap camo, blue vest, ur an absolute douche.
Ur face is going up on social media.
Thanks for the cigarette buts you left in my blind .
Its a none smoking blind u F****

I still cant get over how low some, as a member of "our" hunting community, will go.

I find and hunt elite animals......that's what I do .....you will be the easiest target ever.
Ur an absolute embarrassment to our sport.
An embarrassment as a human being.

If you have kids......what a mentor you are.
I feel sorry for you.

You should post pics here, someone is sure to know

[Walking Buffalo]

This is a very mature buck...the kind I am trying to target.
A bit frustrating we cant see the top half of his antlers to know if he is a potential shooter.
Note his body mass and head compared to the juvenile bucks I have posted.

That is not as frustrating as the fact I have 3 other cams within several hundred meters and none of those picked him up.
Stealthy buggers.......




Numerous killable bucks showing in daylight hours.
As an FYI to you WT hunters.....I am getting numerous bucks on cam from 12pm to 12:45pm the last several days.
Worth mentioning


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvEh1qgYuEc


The same buck?

Had to delete the vid in the first quote.... forum limits....

[Walking Buffalo]

I am going to bow out of this thread on helping others and sharing my WT experiences for a bit.
I did this to help others....not to be exploited.
Not saying HBC has produced this problem........just covering my tracks

I have a bird dogger on me....following my tracks......sitting on my sites......in my blinds!!!
This wonderful hunter/douche bag has gone so far as to delete an SG card.....at one site....leaving the cam open and the cam turned off to cover his tracks.

Idiot didn't see the second cam.

To you.....u orange touqued skinny loser, with ur cheap camo, blue vest, ur an absolute douche.
Ur face is going up on social media.
Thanks for the cigarette buts you left in my blind .
Its a none smoking blind u F****

I still cant get over how low some, as a member of "our" hunting community, will go.

I find and hunt elite animals......that's what I do .....you will be the easiest target ever.
Ur an absolute embarrassment to our sport.
An embarrassment as a human being.

If you have kids......what a mentor you are.
I feel sorry for you.


Really?

I believe that you attracted some vermin, but don't understand why you feel the need deal with it by further limiting your sharing here.
I would expect you to handle this differently....


Isn't this part of WT hunting when using bait sites?
Not saying that it should be, just that it is....
Whether or not you post updates on this site, you are placing bait, which is going to attract all kinds of critters.


If the guy is using this thread to get intel, use that to your advantage.
Set him up....

And you spelled "F****" wrong.

:)

[Wentrot]

Is it private land? The trail cam thing is very dickish however I wouldn't be mad at a guy for hunting "my" area. If it's not private property it's darn near to be expected to have people coming by.

Once again, he crossed the line when he messed with the camera....I don't think you should stop posting though, saying he tracked you due to this post is almost as crazy as someone saying their rope was stolen from forum members...

[HarryToolips]

Hope you catch the douche soon there Ourea....

[zippermouth]

Is it private land? The trail cam thing is very dickish however I wouldn't be mad at a guy for hunting "my" area. If it's not private property it's darn near to be expected to have people coming by.

Once again, he crossed the line when he messed with the camera....I don't think you should stop posting though, saying he tracked you due to this post is almost as crazy as someone saying their rope was stolen from forum members...
guys go on this forum just to find new areas. its definitely not out of the question that this was a result of that. whether or not this case is a result from this thread or not, it was bound to happen. sad to see that he messed with the card and smoked in the blind, but there are some real slimeballs out there. prime example is why sheep hunters black out the alpine in the background of their photos. so others don't know where their hunting.

if one guy finds a blind, sees the trail cam pics posted on this thread and puts two and two together, now you have a gutpile chaser that has just found the glory hole!

[Sitkaspruce]

Another good member of this gong show site is leaving.......when will people understand that people post on here for the helping of others, posting up their successes, their families success and asking questions that others can help with......

The Drama that goes on here is worst that any Soap Opera.......

Ourea, thanks for this and other informational sharing posts you have posted. I hope you rethink your decision, but understand if you don't.

Good luck for the rest of the season!

Cheers

SS

[hare_assassin]

Somebody needs a beating.

[hare_assassin]

Another good member of this gong show site is leaving.......when will people understand that people post on here for the helping of others, posting up their successes, their families success and asking questions that others can help with......

The Drama that goes on here is worst that any Soap Opera.......

Ourea, thanks for this and other informational sharing posts you have posted. I hope you rethink your decision, but understand if you don't.

Good luck for the rest of the season!

Cheers

SS

Nothing surprises me anymore. As a group, we have a disproportionate number of complete douchebag assholes amongst us.

It's high time to acknowledge this fact. Lots of hunters are total ****in' dicks.

Now, what to do?

[Ourea]

guys go on this forum just to find new areas. its definitely not out of the question that this was a result of that. whether or not this case is a result from this thread or not, it was bound to happen. sad to see that he messed with the card and smoked in the blind, but there are some real slimeballs out there. prime example is why sheep hunters black out the alpine in the background of their photos. so others don't know where their hunting.

if one guy finds a blind, sees the trail cam pics posted on this thread and puts two and two together, now you have a gutpile chaser that has just found the glory hole!

Bingo.
It's been brought to my attention that more than a few people have been snooping, trying to find where I am doing my little project. The gutpile hunters will always be around.....always have been. Social media and the internet give them more tools to work with now.

Why would I post more intel of quality bucks during prime time when someone is "using" my site......and probably is on to more. Potentially nothing to do with HBC......potentially everything to do with it.
I am simply covering my tracks.

I would prefer if this issue is left alone going forward.

I will post a video of this world class person later tonight.
All you knuckle draggers out there please refrain from making useless comments.
The objective is to bring attention to person with an obviously poor moral and ethical compass.
Hopefully someone will recognize him

[Pinewood]

I'd like to say thank you, for all the effort you put into your scouting and your willingness to share with a bunch of strangers on the internet. I have absorbed so much good information from this thread and from your efforts. I hope this negative experience won't affect your season and your future endeavours with cameras. Best of luck bagging that trophy you're after.

[one-shot-wonder]

There's a skinflint born every minute....... I would be just as enraged if a so called hunter decided to ride on my coat tails. Being in the same 'game' with multiple blinds and cams, mostly established to help other hunters out, this type of $hit pisses me off.

These types of clowns need to be exposed and socially condemned for their actions. Whether the clown learned about it from here or not, guaranteed someone on this forum will know the perpetrator and a precedent would be set for some royal public shame.

Its sad the world is coming to this and hunters need to be held accountable.

[thick]

^^^ Look forward to seeing the video. Like most things in life, there's always some lazy #%*tard looking for the easy way out... These sorts of people have little, if any, integrity, morals or ethics.

I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread as an Okanagan resident myself and plan on implementing your trail cam and scouting techniques in the coming years when I can devote enough time to this.

Don't let this loser ruin your season, a big whitie still awaits you. And remember, Karma is a bitch and has a very good memory... this douche will get his blast of Karma soon enough.

Good luck on the remainder of your season!

[Ourea]

If anyone recognizes him PM me.
Again, do not disrupt the spirit of this thread.
No comments going forward......sick of the HBC shit shows.
Just want to know who it is

[hare_assassin]

Lump me in with the knuckle-draggers. If there's one thing I have learned about this type of person, it's that there's only one thing that can shake them out of their ignorance. I wouldn't post him for all to see, because cretins like him will just enjoy the attention and brag to his equally moronic friends.

Thanks for posting what you did so far Ourea. Lots of us learned from you.

[Muliechaser]

Lump me in with the knuckle-draggers. If there's one thing I have learned about this type of person, it's that there's only one thing that can shake them out of their ignorance. I wouldn't post him for all to see, because cretins like him will just enjoy the attention and brag to his equally moronic friends.

Thanks for posting what you did so far Ourea. Lots of us learned from you.

Somebodys gonna get lumped !! . Also waiting for pictures .

To bad it really is .
Ive been burnt by close "buddys" before telling othere buddys where when etc etc . And see them hangi ng around .

This thread must not die cuase of some stupid cok knuckle .
I hope whoever is responcible gets theres and im sure they wil karma is one dirty girl .

[hntcrazy]

where is pic????? no pic didnt happen -lol

[Daybreak]

If anyone recognizes him PM me.
Again, do not disrupt the spirit of this thread.
No comments going forward......sick of the HBC shit shows.
Just want to know who it is


Please read his post closely and adhere to it. Thanks.

[M.Dean]

For you Sir, to spend the time to put together a thread like this one,really show's how much you love this sport! And so do us "Honest Hunters" that have being following and learning from your White Tail thread. Your posts, along with some others are what keep this site what it is, a site for "Honest Hunters" to be able to post pictures and story's so other hunters can see and read about there hunting adventures! This is a place where us hunters can "drop in" any time of the day or night and tell our story's and post our hunting pic's for all to see! The wives can only hear about our hunting trips 4 or 5 times before they tell us to "Go tell the guys on that web site, I'm sick of hearing about some dead deer!" So we do! And we love it! And hopefully we get to see you with a big smile telling us how you got your Monster White Tail this season! Keep up the great work!

[Ourea]

Said individual.
No stupid comments.
I have no issue with shutting this thread down if idiots take it over.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S2qVYaQ6-w

[MB_Boy]

Ourea, that "Daytime" video that did show after the "Loser" one shows the individual much better. Assuming it's the same person?

[Ourea]

Another look


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBbP7iXoR0E

[Xenomorph]

All I'm going to say is:

"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with keyboards and forums. - F L Wright"

Karma's a bitch! Enjoy your hunt and dump that badass Whitey. Looking forward to the pic. Take care bud.

[tuner]

It appears there are two fellows, not just one.

[BRvalley]

It appears there are two fellows, not just one.

same guy, different boots on different days it looks like

I had my first blind stolen this year, I feel your frustrations....using the blind is one thing, even though he smoked and littered in it, it's a risk you take on crown land...but stealing the SD card....hope somebody recognizes him

this is one of the better threads on here, be sad to see these types of threads die off

[tuner]

same guy, different boots on different days it looks like

I had my first blind stolen this year, I feel your frustrations....using the blind is one thing, even though he smoked and littered in it, it's a risk you take on crown land...but stealing the SD card....hope somebody recognizes him

this is one of the better threads on here, be sad to see these types of threads die off
The reason I said it appears to be two BR, is on the "daytime"video you can faintly hear the fellow talking, and another voice (unseen) responding. Maybe the audio is so poor I'm hearing nuances that aren't there.

[Xenomorph]

The reason I said it appears to be two BR, is on the "daytime"video you can faintly hear the fellow talking, and another voice (unseen) responding. Maybe the audio is so poor I'm hearing nuances that aren't there.

You're right, it does seems to be another one.

[BRvalley]

ah, I watched with the volume down at work....hopefully karma works some magic here

[Fisher-Dude]

And this is why the chronic big buck/ram/bull killers don't post photos. Far too many pieces of shit looking to ride coat tails. It's sad and it's why the few guys who actually kill big animals don't post anymore. another great resource screwed by a dumbass.

I shoot small bucks/bulls and don't post 'em, either!

[Ourea]

Back to WT........

Despite the annoyance of a "chaser" I have stuck to my home stretch program......been pulling cams like a mad man......hoping for a quality buck to show.
No shortage of the 2 to 3 yr old bucks....
Series of the same to follow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lNJJ06royw

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12kr5OGUzJo

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhVXxnp-lo

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCM6stTx-Gw

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfuzsZIKsAw

[Ourea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBpWibBeuAM

[Ourea]

Found another set of boot prints close to where I access one of my active sites.
Sure enough they B lined right to the cam.
The "hunter" walked up from behind the cam, based on his tracks...deliberately avoided it... checking the game trails to the left and right...then plopped down 60 yards away for a sit.
Yet another gutpile hunter.
Good luck buddy!!!!

Moving on.....

I don't pack a gun until I find a "target"....then I'm all in.
Guess what this means...

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/Its%20time_zpsyqbwnkcy.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/Its%20time_zpsyqbwnkcy.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Lack of accumulating snow has been a negative for the push of mature bucks down to my area.
Set up high and you can lose inventory quickly when the snow flies.....
Set up lower and you can get burned if the snow doesn't come.

Despite the lack of snow I have a couple solid new customers that are hanging around with some consistency.
Not true "hammer" bucks so sorry to disappoint the hardcore WT killers.....
Customer number one.......
He is a very respectable buck but not a jaw dropper.
No junk.....and you know I love junk.
Regardless, he's pretty decent.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd428/browndog100/target_zpso19qomjv.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/browndog100/media/target_zpso19qomjv.jpg.html)

[Ourea]

Check out the physical difference between this nice buck and his 2 yr old friend.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ_VQnkIWOQ

[Ourea]

I only have the one video of this target of interest.
He appears to be pretty darn solid....good mass....great tine length.....tremendous height overall, which is a common genetic trait for some of the bucks in this area.

I thought he was the previously posted buck but his mass is considerably heavier and antler configuration slightly different.
This guy appears to be "the one".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MqlEqajcAs

[Ourea]

Coach is on his way down tomorrow, meeting me here at 5am.
He is going to sit in a blind that has multiple bucks passing by every day.
Stone cold killer in his own right, 358mag, is jumping in another blind near by.

These spots are very consistent for younger bucks during daylight.
Killer is that wind is so inconsistent always favoring the WT ( inserting the obvious observation here...wonder why they are so comfortable in this area despite being so close to a road! )

It's an east west drainage with the predominant winds being north or south.
There is a stable high pressure right now with light north winds.
This causes for a swirling effect at times.
If the winds are moderate to strong the spots are golden.
If it's a slight breeze they are in for a tough day regardless of blind location.

The boys better be on point with their puffers!
Could be a bit of a boxing match with the wind.

Speaking of boxers....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_NUlhqC3_c

[Ourea]

I will update this thread with detailed observations when I have more time.
I respect that a few new/layman WT hunters are looking at this so I will try to help ur quest and growth with my observations and in sharing them.
The spirit of this thread is to get more into WT hunting as they are a great challenge and endless hunting resource for the most part. They are one of the few species in BC that are "less boot" and "more brain".

And to all you hardcore WT killers that need absolutely no insight from me.......I hope you feel my pain.
I hope my misery gives you some pleasure.
Big buck WT hunting is a pleasure pain relationship.

It makes victory that much sweeter though!!

[.264winmag]

Couple real beauties you got lined up for the boys. Good luck guys, cut some tags!

[HarryToolips]

Great thread, and great vids...so you think some of the 'big boys' haven't been pushed down yet due to snow levels?? Wouldn't they have come down lower by now to tend to does???

[Muliechaser]

Great thread, and great vids...so you think some of the 'big boys' haven't been pushed down yet due to snow levels?? Wouldn't they have come down lower by now to tend to does???

The big buck activity as i have noticed is a few hundred feet higher in elevation this year than previous years .
We still have decent bucks 2 1/2 yo 4 and 5 points showing up at mid elevation . One 3 1/2 yo has shown up twice in the last week . Im seeing does up real high still aswell so they are fairly scattered . But judging from the tracks popping up the real stompers are mostly up high still . Changes things up to say the least this year

Cheers
Mc