Retired RCMP caught poaching

[BlacktailStalker]

Recognize this boat anyone lol ?


This was the scene down at French Creek Marina this afternoon. I watched as this boat approached the ramp to leave the harbour when he carved a donut and sped out to exit the harbour. I noticed that there was a Fisheries Officer at the top of the ramp checking people as they were coming and going. Shortly after, this boat was escorted in by the RCMP boat... things were about to get interesting. It turns out that this guy had 8 Chinooks on board and only two people in the boat. Well, he lost his downriggers, fishing rods, tackle, and salmon for sure. interestingly, his fishing buddy left with 2 of the Chinooks? I don't know what kind of fines he will face, but I hope they are hefty. The guy has a bit of a reputation for this, and is quite ignorant too. To top it all off he's a retired RCMP. I wouldn't call that a respectful "Fishin' Time".

http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7466&d=1370582083

[lorneparker1]

That's awesome! I love when poachers get nailed

[Seth]

Is that him in the green hat at the back of the boat? He looks bummed. I wonder why?

[BuckNaked]

That's awesome! I love when poachers get nailed

x2, throw the book at em.

[Whonnock Boy]

What a piece of ....... I hope a sizable fine is the catch of the day when he sees the courtroom.

[recoil]

By the looks of his truck and boat money is not an issue for this guy. Taking away his license for a year might have been a more fitting punishment, and if he is caught fishing again within that period immediate 30 day jail term. But that's just my opinion.

[Sasquatch]

I hope the downriggers and tackle were all top of the line - and the extra few fish cost him thousands.

[Mr. Dean]

150K boat and they take the downriggers....

[Ozone]

That's awesome! I love when poachers get nailed

Wasn't it you who got let off earlier this year for a halibut "mistake"

[digger dogger]

Wasn't it you who got let off earlier this year for a halibut "mistake"

Holy, i think theres a difference between 1 hali (new size requirement) compared to what this TUNA was up to.
And Lorne sure ain't no copper.

[G.A.]

no more fishng ever. loose rights or life. he dont care about a few hundred bucks for some gear...should have taken the truck and boat to. asshole probably made all that cash taking bribes as a cop.

[pnbrock]

Another fine example of the above the law royal Canadian mounted police !!!

[Ozone]

Holy, i think theres a difference between 1 hali (new size requirement) compared to what this TUNA was up to.
And Lorne sure ain't no copper.

Lorne admitted in another thread that he was caught not recording the halibut in his possession on his licence. To me this would be the same as not cutting a tag when hunting. Would that not be a chargeable offence?
I have no idea what Lorne does or did, nor do I think it matters. Just found his statement ironic so soon after being let go.

[Sitkaspruce]

Ozone

There is always a "breathing space" when new regs come into affect, better to warn and get the message out than hammer away at all the new regs with tickets. But the "Breathing space" will soon expire and then it will be tickets and more.....

However, the limit/record regs for springs have been around for 20+ years, breathing room has expired a long time ago.......

The guy who was let go with his two springs obviously had them recorded and they were legal, cannot seize anything taken legally....

I do call BS on all this as there is no way there is 8 springs off of French Creek.......;-)

Cheers

SS

[dougan]

Not surprising the uniform one wears doesn't tell the story of who's in it Probobly used as a cover more often than not:(

[BCBRAD]

Would y'all say such nice things if it was a mill worker, construction worker , lawyer etc. Law enforcement is just a job much like any other, the RCMP is just one company to practice that craft. Everyone is failable, to differing degrees. Has anyone ever exceeded 30kph in a school zone, your kids will be killed if this happens and 4 less Chinooks will tip the eco-balance of the natural cosmos.
Anyway, he violated the rules , because he's non-native, and therefore must pay the piper. Taking all his assets for 4 fish is down right stupid, forefeit your vehicle if caught speeding, running a red light etc. , have your house taken away from you for sprinkling your lawn on the wrong day, give your head shake.

[huntcoop]

He should know better, he is a sworn officer of the law.

[Sofa King]

He should know better, he is a sworn officer of the law.

that doesn't mean shit.
i hate that society assumes that someone is a more respectable person simply because they are a cop.

and i'm surprised that they allowed the one guy to leave with his two fish.
so what if they were properly recorded.
that doesn't mean he didn't also catch some of the "extra" ones.
if the boat-owner had also "properly recorded" his two, would he then get to keep them?
the vessel they used to fish had an illegal # of fish on it.
that should make them all guilty and all fish confiscated.

[G.A.]

holly were all tought as babies for certain one to lead by example. parents or cops or whatever it may be...some get off for their race so why not work both ways

[G.A.]

other dood should be guilty by association like all other laws have..unless hes the one ratted them...lol

[BlacktailStalker]

His pension will pay for new gear and the fine no big deal. Just thought its good to see the boat that's known for poaching, fishing is getting better over the last couple years guys like that ruin it for the rest. Greed.

[huntcoop]

that doesn't mean shit.
i hate that society assumes that someone is a more respectable person simply because they are a cop.

and i'm surprised that they allowed the one guy to leave with his two fish.
so what if they were properly recorded.
that doesn't mean he didn't also catch some of the "extra" ones.
if the boat-owner had also "properly recorded" his two, would he then get to keep them?
the vessel they used to fish had an illegal # of fish on it.
that should make them all guilty and all fish confiscated.

You missed my point, I agree with you. I was merely stating that he of all people SHOULD have known better.

[Iron Glove]

His pension will pay for new gear and the fine no big deal. Just thought its good to see the boat that's known for poaching, fishing is getting better over the last couple years guys like that ruin it for the rest. Greed.

Nah, he'll just report it to his Insurance Company as a theft. :)

[Whonnock Boy]

Nah, he'll just report it to his Insurance Company as a theft. :)

That crossed my mind as well. Would he be so bold?

[jhausner]

For 4 fish the penalty of losing gear is probably enough. Ex-RCMP or not doesn't make the law apply any different and as has been said, just because the person served in law enforcement doesn't mean they follow the laws themselves 100%. It's impossible to find anyone that never breaks a law at some stage. He should have known better absolutely but he was an RCMP not a Conservation Officer. I'd be more shocked if an Ex-Conservation Officer did something like this vs an RCMP. I see an RCMP officer as being just like anyone else with a profession as has been pointed out. Just my thoughts. Nice boat though wish I had the money for that set up.

[Sofa King]

You missed my point, I agree with you. I was merely stating that he of all people SHOULD have known better.

i figured that.
i didn't mean for it to sound disagreeing, but more emphasizing what you had already stated.

and these guys, poachers, do know better.
they just refuse to play by the rules.
makes one wonder what this guy was getting away with when he was an active member of our "prestigious" force.

[Sofa King]

if these guys were out hunting and had four moose in the back of their truck, but they legally cut their tags for two, would they have been allowed to take two home?

[Sofa King]

i disagree.
his blatant poaching shows he shows no respect for the conservation or rules.
and he's clearly not hurting for cash, so taking some gear means piss-all to this guy.
one has to wonder how many times has he done this and gotten away with it.
and possibly he's a hunter and does the same in the woods.
he should be forced to take an ethics course.

[Sitkaspruce]

that doesn't mean shit.
i hate that society assumes that someone is a more respectable person simply because they are a cop.

and i'm surprised that they allowed the one guy to leave with his two fish.
so what if they were properly recorded.
that doesn't mean he didn't also catch some of the "extra" ones.
if the boat-owner had also "properly recorded" his two, would he then get to keep them?
the vessel they used to fish had an illegal # of fish on it.
that should make them all guilty and all fish confiscated.

If the other guy did record his 2 fish, they are legal, nobody can take them away as they were caught legally (as best as we can tell, unless they used a meat line or a barbed hook, but that is a different story). The owner of the boat is responsible for all, especially if nobody owns up to it....the owner probably did not have any fish recorded and if he had 8 in the boat and his "Buddy" only claims 2, then he is over his limit by 4 (8-2-2=4) and did not record his two. That would actually be two charges, fail to record and over his possession limit....but if he did record two fish, then he gets to keep them as they are legal as well. As we were not there, we can only speculate......


if these guys were out hunting and had four moose in the back of their truck, but they legally cut their tags for two, would they have been allowed to take two home?

Yup for the same reasons as above, unless they were taken in an illegal way.

Cheers

SS