More Cali Bighorn Pics

[dana]

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[dana]

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[dana]

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[frenchbar]

Top notch pics steve!

[dana]

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[dana]

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[dana]

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[Stone Sheep Steve]

Looks like you've got your regular models trained well, Dana!

So many great pics in the bunch!

SSS

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Steve- you've got some front cover pics there if you ever decide to submit some of the best to the WSSBC mag.

SSS

[Bc Deer Hunter]

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If I had the opportunity\draw I would take him!! :D

[KTownKiller]

Awesome pics again, dana.

[coach]

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Ho Lee Sheeit!!!!! That's an awesome ram. Incredible photos, as always, Dana!!

I wonder if he ever roams around in the draw area??

[sheep hunter]

Thanks for sharing those amazing photos. That big ram is a beautiful animal, a booner for sure.

[kennyj]

Very nice! Thanks for sharing.
kenny

[The Dude]

Definitely some covers in the lot. My top three:



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[WKCotts]

Awesome pics Steve. Thanx for sharing again

[just hunt]

Great pics Dana
like sss said you should enter them !

[coach]

Dana - I've been looking at numerous pics of the world record california bighorn. The sheep in your pics is awful damn close. As I said before - amazing animal! Any guesses on what he would score?

[rudysteelhead]

Great photos dana. I hope that ram spreads his genes into areas that bc hunters can have a chance to hunt. Just incredible!!!!

[dana]

Dana - I've been looking at numerous pics of the world record california bighorn. The sheep in your pics is awful damn close. As I said before - amazing animal! Any guesses on what he would score?

I'm not good on field judging sheep. I only know 'small', 'medium', 'large' and 'extra large'. ;) I'm sure there are some that might be able to throw out a better educated guess. I was thinking 'Booner' when I saw him. 180 is the min for the B&C. Not sure how much above that line he'd go.

[coach]

I'm not good on field judging sheep. I only know 'small', 'medium', 'large' and 'extra large'. ;) I'm sure there are some that might be able to throw out a better educated guess. I was thinking 'Booner' when I saw him. 180 is the min for the B&C. Not sure how much above that line he'd go.

B&C doesn't differentiate between Cali's and Rocky's - seems a bit of a disservice to the subspecies. My understanding is a 160 Cali is exceptional everywhere but Kamloops..:-D Not sure if those sheep have Rocky genes mixed in or not - some people speculate they might. If my information is correct, the biggest Cali ever was around 190. The ram my hunting partner killed this year was just over 170. The ram in your pics has to be well north of 180. Not many full curl Cali's out there - would love to hear what the knowledgeable sheep guys have to say.

[coach]

A link for a comparison: http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2049888

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Not sure if those sheep have Rocky genes mixed in or not - some people speculate they might. If my information is correct, the biggest Cali ever was around 190. .


193 5/8". Got a pic of the mount....somewhere.......

[coach]

193 5/8". Got a pic of the mount....somewhere.......

Found one.. Google is my friend: :mrgreen:

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[KTownKiller]

WOW! That is some ram!

[fester]

great pics

[dana]

B&C doesn't differentiate between Cali's and Rocky's - seems a bit of a disservice to the subspecies. My understanding is a 160 Cali is exceptional everywhere but Kamloops..:-D Not sure if those sheep have Rocky genes mixed in or not - some people speculate they might. If my information is correct, the biggest Cali ever was around 190. The ram my hunting partner killed this year was just over 170. The ram in your pics has to be well north of 180. Not many full curl Cali's out there - would love to hear what the knowledgeable sheep guys have to say.

The B&C has to label them the same just because there is no way to know a Rocky from a Cali other than location and many locations the two subspecies are rather close to each other. Just look at Spences versus the rest of the Fraser as an example. I seem to recall someone mentioned the Chase herd were Rockys. That is pretty dang close to the Mt. Paul Herd which could easily mingle with the Tranquille Herd if they wanted too. My late father-in-law told me when he was a young man he lived in the Loops and one night he took a shortcut through an alley downtown only to meet a big ol' ram coming straight at him. Not what you would expect to meet in a dark alley late at night. :)

As for your comments about full curl Calis, I see plenty of them in the Loops. Many are broomed on one side and meet the full-curl requirements on the other side. I think that 'What If?' had the potential to be like that 193 ram you posted up if he had of stayed clean on both sides. As for the big heavy ram in these pics, his mass measurements probably make up a lot of ground that he lost when he broomed.

[coach]

Great comments, Dana. I agree with you on "What If". I don't expect the heavy ram in your pics will be shot in the draw area (but you never know). Will be interesting to know if anyone ever gets a chance to put a tape to him. He sure looks amazing in your pictures. Great threads you've posted on that herd. Thanks!!

[dana]

I personally can not see why the Tranquille herd would not mix with the Kamloops Lake herd, especially during the rut. I can see a ram one weekend on Ord and then the next weekend see the same ram on the Red Lake Rd. Quite the distance in a short timeframe. Not that far to then move into the draw unit. What would be sweet is to have the Special Sheep Draw and focus on Kamloops with it. If you had that timeframe, I'm sure a real slug could be found.

[coach]

What would be sweet is to have the Special Sheep Draw and focus on Kamloops with it. If you had that timeframe, I'm sure a real slug could be found.

I'm convinced! Time to go buy some tickets. :-D

[Rackmastr]

Some truly stunning pics there Dana!!! Great rams, great pics all around!

[blackbart]

Great thread for sure. I certainly have the impression that the Spences Bridge genetics have migrated a fair distance from the orig transplant location. Seems to me that in recent yeras some rather large rams have been sighted in areas that traditionally never had sheep, let alone crankers. Also seems to me that the overall trophy quality of the Kamloops Lake herd amongst others has been increasing????

How about the piss cutters from Chase and Chasm???

It is too bad that the Cali genetics could not be kept pure.

Open for feedback or corrections.

BB

[The Dude]

Hard to get crankers in Chasm, as "The Syndicate" culls them out for cash every time they get too big.

[hunter1947]

Dana lots of very beautiful picture you put up on this thread thanks for sharing http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon6.png http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.png..

[boxhitch]

I personally can not see why the Tranquille herd would not mix with the Kamloops Lake herd, especially during the rut. Some say the Mt Paul herd came from the Tranquille area originally.

What would be sweet is to have the Special Sheep Draw and focus on Kamloops with itThe K Lake LEH could produce some great rams , but lots of guys don't do the do to get them.


I seem to recall someone mentioned the Chase herd were Rockys. 40 Rockies were put there back in '27. a few years later a few were taken over to Adams Lake , don't hear much about those anymore.

Something that helps mix up the blood at Mt Paul and maybe Kamloops , was the release of a Rocky ram there, from the wildlife park.

[boxhitch]

Not sure how many guys know , but if you want some light reading about bighorns , the BC Gov has a couple of papers on their site
'The Status of California Bighorn Sheep' and 'The status of Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep'
Also 'The Status of Thinhorn Sheep' for those that lean that way.

Guess I should make that 'had'. Can't find them but they are on the WAFWA site , and the WSSoBC site? I hope?

[Sundance1972]

Wow, definitely some beautiful pics/animals, I think I whispered "BANG" on more than one!! It's pics like these that have made me want to improve my own skills (thanks again for the help/advice on my thread).

[dana]

Hard to get crankers in Chasm, as "The Syndicate" culls them out for cash every time they get too big.

So you don't consider that outfitter ram that was killed this past season in Chasm a Cranker????? :) :)

[dana]

Some say the Mt Paul herd came from the Tranquille area originally.
The K Lake LEH could produce some great rams , but lots of guys don't do the do to get them.

40 Rockies were put there back in '27. a few years later a few were taken over to Adams Lake , don't hear much about those anymore.

Something that helps mix up the blood at Mt Paul and maybe Kamloops , was the release of a Rocky ram there, from the wildlife park.

There still are a few sheep kicking around that Adams country.

[dana]

Wow, definitely some beautiful pics/animals, I think I whispered "BANG" on more than one!! It's pics like these that have made me want to improve my own skills (thanks again for the help/advice on my thread).

Glad I inspired you to improve your photography skills. That is one of the reasons why I share my pics, so others will share theirs too.

[boxhitch]

So you don't consider that outfitter ram that was killed this past season in Chasm a Cranker????? :) :)teaser or bs ?:)

[dana]

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Boxhitch, you must have missed this one in the fall. It was shot by Cory Knowlton and guided by Abe Dougan.

[boxhitch]

Wow , yeah I missed that thread. :?

[coach]

Do we know the score on that one, Dana?

[dana]

I had heard a rumour of 190 but I have not heard anything official.