Deer are dropping!!!

[eastkoot]

Saw this guy in the backyard today. Looked 20 ft. from the house and there it was!!!http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/duramaxx/P1040077_zps723e85ac.jpg
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/duramaxx/P1040079_zps225aec79.jpg

[d6dan]

Nice find eastkoot!. Didn't take you all day walking either :wink:.

[TheProvider]

Nice find. They have been dropping for a cple weeks... moose even earlier.... patiently waiting for blacktails to drop

[warnniklz]

when do you guys start pushing bush for sheds?

[Jelvis]

Good report hunter, well done. Thank you for the news flash.
Jel.. Sheds dropping nice find.

[Brambles]

Seems really early!!!

[hunter1993ap]

its really early for muley sheds, you will put a ton of miles on your boots and not find much. i saw two bucks yesterday both packing, i see muleys in mid to late feb still packing, and some into march. i would say the odd buck will drop now but i dont want to push them to bad so i spend more time coyote hunting than shed hunting. whiteys are a different story as you can tell from the other threads.

[Rackmastr]

Wow....that seems early for sure, but cool to see!

I'd love to get out and find some elk sheds this year, just gotta start looking for good wintering areas that the bulls like to hang out!

[Shooter]

I saw a small blacktail with 1 antler in someones front yard the other day. He was barely a crabclaw 2point on the antler he had left but he was also with a little bit bigger 2 point that had both antlers still. And last night I saw a big 3x2 that obviously had both antlers still.

[MOUNTAIN MAN - TOYOTA/ATV]

Nice shed. Nice buck too.

[The Dude]

Wow, nice place, the Koots, the deer DELIVER! :D

[hunter1947]

Saw this guy in the backyard today. Looked 20 ft. from the house and there it was!!!http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/duramaxx/P1040077_zps723e85ac.jpg
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/duramaxx/P1040079_zps225aec79.jpg



Nice to see the shed from this mule deer.

[oldkoot]

Nice find with little effort, even I could have walked to that one. Seems right on schedule.

[HarryToolips]

Surprised they're dropping already..

[hunter1947]

Surprised they're dropping already..


Global warming is why..

[knighthunter]

They sure are nice to find when they are still brown and no chew marks on them. I used to find them by the truckload, deer, moose, elk when I lived on the prairie's.

[hunter1993ap]

[QUOTE=hunter1947;1264575]Global warming is why..[/QUOTE
what makes you think this. i have a different opinion, but am curious to why you think it would be from global warming?

[Jack Russell]

I don't believe deer drop antlers, get a winter coat, or shed one, due to global warming, or dropping barometric pressures for that matter. Photo period...

[Jelvis]

Mule deer ( start dropping ) from mid < to late December, january, february and March, new ones start the velvet April 1st
Cycle remains the same ..
.. Amount of light entering deers eye programs the deers behaviours .. not weather or rain etc. lenght of daylight hours
each day change 2 minutes a day, 60 minutes in a month. Lighter or darker. After Winter Soltice days get longer by 2 minutes a day til first day of Summer then they get shorter by 2 minutes ti first day of winter repeat and repeat.
jel .. Photo Periodism amount of light per day entering eye balls ..

[hunter1993ap]

Mule deer ( start dropping ) from mid < to late December, january, february and March, new ones start the velvet April 1st
Cycle remains the same ..
.. Amount of light entering deers eye programs the deers behaviours .. not weather or rain etc. lenght of daylight hours
each day change 2 minutes a day, 60 minutes in a month. Lighter or darker. After Winter Soltice days get longer by 2 minutes a day til first day of Summer then they get shorter by 2 minutes ti first day of winter repeat and repeat.
jel .. Photo Periodism amount of light per day entering eye balls ..

so if its the amount of light entering the eyes determines behavior why dont they all drop at the same time?

[Jelvis]

A buck has different testosterone levels like male human has, so when the light entering the deers eye is right for the new breeding season the gland for that in his body secrets hormones and the testicles drop into the sac and beign to produce sperm. Some bucks are big some small some young some old and in between, like men.
Some guys can grow a beard in two weeks and another a month.
Bucks peak for the rut in mid November than the testosterone is shutting down because the light time has shortened and now the gland is shut off tapering down to so low the antler falls off, big bucks drop first usually and some small ones can have them in March. Antlers are not for protection the deer use their front feet for defence and speed to run.
Antlers are for status for top rank for the ladies and the fight bucks compare similar sized racks to fight with.
Jel

[Rob Chipman]

I think he said it was global warming because global warming causes everything.

Cool pic, btw!

[Jelvis]

The reason gos mules were cut back from January to Dec 10 was because way back in time was the bucks that dropped looked like females.
Does were open on gos and bucks and then when bucks lost antler, no one knew he shot a buck by mistake.
After Dec 10 or so some mules drop, usually the left side first, we don't know why yet.
Jelly ( Arm Chair Bio) President .. phd animal behaviour .. specialise ungalates .. M.A. colorado univ.com

[Husky7mm]

The bulk of the mulies wont shed for another month and a half I would guess, and the elk closer to april. The bulk of the WT will be first.

[dana]

I've picked up fresh muley sheds as early as Dec 26th and I've seen them still packin as late as the 3rd week of March. Nothing different about now versus the past.

[hunter1947]

Something is happening out there in nature never seen so many late fawns being born in the past few years ?????.

[oldkoot]

What Dana and Husky said. I have picked up small ones early in the season and have seen big ones packing late in the season. December has been when it starts for Whitey's, Muleys' and Moose, for the 40 + years I have been picking up sheds. Nothing has changed.

[hunter1993ap]

What Dana and Husky said. I have picked up small ones early in the season and have seen big ones packing late in the season. December has been when it starts for Whitey's, Muleys' and Moose, for the 40 + years I have been picking up sheds. Nothing has changed.

i agree.,,,

[hunter1947]

I wish I could have found a WT shed yesterday but it was not meant to be ,,I put on about 5k came up on the short end of the stick :icon_frow..

[dana]

I wish I could have found a WT shed yesterday but it was not meant to be ,,I put on about 5k came up on the short end of the stick :icon_frow..

Unless you have already seen numerous bucks shed out, you are wasting your time shed hunting right now. As a matter of fact, you'll be working against yourself for future sheds as you will be pushing bucks around. This is especially true in low snow years as they can and do make huge moves when they don't have deep snow restricting their movements. And if there is a lot of snow and the deer are yarded up, you are taking a huge risk and stressing deer out needlessly when they don't need it. Patience is a virtue. Find the bucks and wait. It is still months away from the productive time to pick up tine.

[300H&H]

Super long eye guards, thanks for posting.

[hunter1947]

Unless you have already seen numerous bucks shed out, you are wasting your time shed hunting right now. As a matter of fact, you'll be working against yourself for future sheds as you will be pushing bucks around. This is especially true in low snow years as they can and do make huge moves when they don't have deep snow restricting their movements. And if there is a lot of snow and the deer are yarded up, you are taking a huge risk and stressing deer out needlessly when they don't need it. Patience is a virtue. Find the bucks and wait. It is still months away from the productive time to pick up tine.

LOL I never saw one Animal out on my shed hunt so I never pushed any out of the area ,,dry soft snow and sometimes I could see out at 100 yards or so....

[dana]

Hunter47,
How many bucks have you seen already dropped in your area????

[one-shot-wonder]

LOL I never saw one Animal out on my shed hunt so I never pushed any out of the area ,,dry soft snow and sometimes I could see out at 100 yards or so....
Because you never saw any, doesn't mean animals weren't possibly pushed.....
If your itching to get outside pick up your iron and got shoot some dogs, pr chase cats, do you know anybody that has hounds?

[hunter1947]

Hunter47,
How many bucks have you seen already dropped in your area????


Dana I have not been out there in the woods till the other day so I can not give you a count ,,I will tell you something if I did push any animal up out of there bed or other they will just run a short distance and stop and look back I am not that stupid to chase them.

The snow is only about 5 inches deep where I was and a dry snow very easy to walk for me and deer and other game animals ,,look at it this way If your saying I should not be out there then you better look at the snow sleds that venture into the woods this time of the year as for cat hunters chassing throught the woods for miles spooking out bedded deer etc ,,the snow shoers going out into the woods look at it this way I needed some extersize I go out for a good walk and a few members come down onto me what I had did give me a break ,,,,what about others that head out looking for sheds at this time of the year ??? guess they should not be out there ether....

[hunter1947]

Because you never saw any, doesn't mean animals weren't possibly pushed.....
If your itching to get outside pick up your iron and got shoot some dogs, pr chase cats, do you know anybody that has hounds?


Deer bound or trot from there beds when spooked there was no evedence of this in the snow anywhere that I saw on my outing ...

[bozzdrywall]

I have found 2 big mule deer sheds so far this year. I will be looking for the matchs if the snow holds off. I sent 1947 an email with the pics if it works he can post them up.

[oldkoot]

Wayne,
Live your life as you see fit, not how others think you should. A day out walking in the woods is never a " waste of time ".......always something to enjoy .

[hunter1947]

Wayne,
Live your life as you see fit, not how others think you should. A day out walking in the woods is never a " waste of time ".......always something to enjoy .


Big G I agree with you thanks bud..

[sawmill]

Wayne,
Live your life as you see fit, not how others think you should. A day out walking in the woods is never a " waste of time ".......always something to enjoy .

Yup,I agree too.I spent 8 hours at Rock lake ice fishing....well actually ice sitting.Never got a bite.Bad day fishing is better than a good day at work.A little Sambuca in the coffee don`t hurt either:mrgreen:

[dave_fras]

just got back from a hike... didnt find any sheds... but i did see 4 bucks! nothin special tho 2 small bucks and 2 medium sized 4 points

[dana]

Dana I have not been out there in the woods till the other day so I can not give you a count ,,I will tell you something if I did push any animal up out of there bed or other they will just run a short distance and stop and look back I am not that stupid to chase them.

The snow is only about 5 inches deep where I was and a dry snow very easy to walk for me and deer and other game animals ,,look at it this way If your saying I should not be out there then you better look at the snow sleds that venture into the woods this time of the year as for cat hunters chassing throught the woods for miles spooking out bedded deer etc ,,the snow shoers going out into the woods look at it this way I needed some extersize I go out for a good walk and a few members come down onto me what I had did give me a break ,,,,what about others that head out looking for sheds at this time of the year ??? guess they should not be out there ether....

Wayne,
You are missing what I am saying. With little snow, bucks can and do make big moves. They don't need to get up and run from ya. They can hold tight, let ya walk by and get up and slowly work their way out of that area never to be seen again. And chances are they would take the sheds that are on their heads with them. If you haven't got a clue that the bucks are shed out already, then you could very well be your worst enemy when it comes to pickin up sheds. You want to find where the bucks are right now and sit on them. They will shed on their own and there is a lot better time to be pickin up sheds. I've seen your shed hunting threads over the years and it really seems you don't really know what you are doing as you complain all the time about the lack of sheds you pick up. Maybe a old dog can learn a new trick. Open your ears and see that I am giving you a helping hand. You want to find the sheds, find the bucks first.

[Elk-Aholic]

Wayne,
You are missing what I am saying. With little snow, bucks can and do make big moves. They don't need to get up and run from ya. They can hold tight, let ya walk by and get up and slowly work their way out of that area never to be seen again. And chances are they would take the sheds that are on their heads with them. If you haven't got a clue that the bucks are shed out already, then you could very well be your worst enemy when it comes to pickin up sheds. You want to find where the bucks are right now and sit on them. They will shed on their own and there is a lot better time to be pickin up sheds. I've seen your shed hunting threads over the years and it really seems you don't really know what you are doing as you complain all the time about the lack of sheds you pick up. Maybe a old dog can learn a new trick. Open your ears and see that I am giving you a helping hand. You want to find the sheds, find the bucks first.

Dana you've hit the nail square on the head! Couldn't be more true.

[hunter1947]

Wayne,
You are missing what I am saying. With little snow, bucks can and do make big moves. They don't need to get up and run from ya. They can hold tight, let ya walk by and get up and slowly work their way out of that area never to be seen again. And chances are they would take the sheds that are on their heads with them. If you haven't got a clue that the bucks are shed out already, then you could very well be your worst enemy when it comes to picking up sheds. You want to find where the bucks are right now and sit on them. They will shed on their own and there is a lot better time to be picking up sheds. I've seen your shed hunting threads over the years and it really seems you don't really know what you are doing as you complain all the time about the lack of sheds you pick up. Maybe a old dog can learn a new trick. Open your ears and see that I am giving you a helping hand. You want to find the sheds, find the bucks first.


Dana I do have a handle on what I am doing when it comes to shed hunting the other day was the first time I ever went out this early I did this outing because I was bored and I needed a to get out for a good walk in the wild.

I usually don't head out for sheds till March on in to the first week of June just on what you have said you don't want to push the animals out of the area you know where the antlers are.
Dana f you look at my last years shed hunt thread you will see my clips most sheds are off all the deer family by the end of April and 50 percent of the time I come home with a big fat skunk during the months of March and April May June ,,its not a lack of trying I put on 9k on the average on a days hunting for sheds in the month of March April and May June.

All antlers are off male animals by the first week of June and I hit new areas and come home with nothing and the shed hunt was in new areas,,my thoughts are that it is trial and miss when shed hunting you don't go back to an area not finding any sheds after looking it over for that days shed hunt the month might be the end of May that I looked at this new area and came up empty handed so I wright this spot off my area for future shed hunting never pushed any animals out of these new areas I look at ,,I have a log book on what time and day ,month year I have found sheds all implemented and on video disks and my GPS..

I have 20 or so different areas to look at and I start at the first place and as the weeks go by I end up at my last place looking for sheds between times I will head back to the areas that I had found sheds the year before to see if any had dropped from a few days ago,,I usually don't start shed hunting till the first of March this is my third year in living in the Cranbrook area and I think I have done very good shed hunting not knowing any areas to go to when I first moved here,,google earth is my buddy it showed me places to go and try areas for sheds :-D .

I have found 5 matching sets of elk sheds in the 2 years and many single elk sheds I say thats darn good for a beginner :-D..

Here are about 50 percent of my collection over a two year period the others where older sheds and they are out in my rock flower garden ,,, I say that what I have found so far is dam good for only two years shed hunting living here in the EK ,,I have heard of people that have been shed hunting for a few years and only have found a few sheds ,,I am very happy with my count of sheds for two years :-D..


O ya this saying about teaching a old dog new tricks is not true sheds below tell all ,, I know the new tricks so leave me be :mrgreen:..

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/00342.JPG (http://javascript<strong></strong>:;)

[hunter1947]

Last years one days shed hunt me and Ryan Aprial ,,here are just a few of many sheds I have found over my two years hunting for them ,,pictures show that I do know what I am doing when it comes to shed hunting.......

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/006_2_.JPG (http://javascript<strong></strong>:;)http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/007_2_1.JPG http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/00727.JPG

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/0289.JPG

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/0384.JPG

[hunter1947]

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/1071.JPG http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/photo_3_1_1_.jpg

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/0452.JPG

[hunter1947]

Ryan ,,bozzdrywall asked me to post these few mule deer sheds he found out shed hunting the other day ,,nice find bud..

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/2013-01-04_16-35-35_227_Kimberley.jpg (http://javascript<strong></strong>:;)

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/2013-01-04_16-34-16_54.jpg (javascript:;)

[bozzdrywall]

Thanks wayne cant wait to find more

[dana]

Wayne,
I don't see a lot of deer sheds in that pile. ;) I gave you some advice, you can take it or leave it. But just so you know, I have had over 25 shed seasons under my belt and have had numerous individual seasons with counts well over 200. But what do I know about shed hunting eh?

[hunter1993ap]

Wayne,
I don't see a lot of deer sheds in that pile. ;) I gave you some advice, you can take it or leave it. But just so you know, I have had over 25 shed seasons under my belt and have had numerous individual seasons with counts well over 200. But what do I know about shed hunting eh?

whats the most fresh sheds you have found in a season? 200 plus is a lot, lots of miles i'm sure! how many days do you spend on average shed hunting per year?

[pnbrock]

i can hear some chest beating!!!!

[hunter1947]

Wayne,
I don't see a lot of deer sheds in that pile. ;) I gave you some advice, you can take it or leave it. But just so you know, I have had over 25 shed seasons under my belt and have had numerous individual seasons with counts well over 200. But what do I know about shed hunting eh?

Dana I know you are a long time avid shed hunter your threads and pictures over the years tells this,, I respect you for what you have accomplished over your life time you have done well on your outings you don't get to be a knowledgeable shed hunter sitting home on the couch LOL :wink:.

LOL Dana reason being that there are no mule deer sheds in my pile is that there are very few mule deer left here in the EK maybe if you don't mind you can tell me where you hunt for your mule deer sheds down where you live then I can add some mule deer sheds to my pile LOL :) ,,,as you would know mule deer sheds can only be found if there are mule deer bucks in areas ,,PS on all the outings I have gone out over my few years hunting for sheds in about 20 areas most them areas I see no mule deer only elk and WT deer so thats why I don't have any mule sheds :)..

I have lots of elk sheds because there are elk in these areas I do my shed hunting as for WT I am finding these sheds because the sheds are there as I said earlier on my post there are no mule deer in these areas where I shed hunt only elk and WT deer are there you can't find mule deer sheds if they are not there LOL.

I was out all day yesterday looking at two different areas for a possible area that might be worth while to shed hunt I saw elk ,,WT deer ,,big horn sheep but no mule deer :icon_frow I was up at higher elevations and down at low looking over there areas...

[oldkoot]

25 years ????........That's what many of us would call a beginner son.
Wayne one of the reasons you don't do that well on MD sheds is you are going out too late in the season. This is the EK not sleepy hollow. Those are popular spots that get hit hard on a weekly if not daily basis. The few sheds that were there have already been picked up. It is unfortunate that it is like this but that is the way it is. That is one of the reason I have pretty much quit doing it. Got tired of watching the critters getting pushed around while most still had bone on. The same thing happens to the elk. Good luck changing the way the masses do business.
I would take a picture of my pile of sheds for proof of credentials, but I don't have a wide enough angle lens.
Again Wayne, it is about enjoying yourself in the outdoors, not living up to someone elses expectations. I am pretty sure there are many on this site that for one reason or another can't get out like you do that really appreciate you taking the time to take them along on your adventures with your clips and pics weather you find bone or not. Keep enjoying life as you like.

[hunter1947]

25 years ????........That's what many of us would call a beginner son.
Wayne one of the reasons you don't do that well on MD sheds is you are going out too late in the season. This is the EK not sleepy hollow. Those are popular spots that get hit hard on a weekly if not daily basis. The few sheds that were there have already been picked up. It is unfortunate that it is like this but that is the way it is. That is one of the reason I have pretty much quit doing it. Got tired of watching the critters getting pushed around while most still had bone on. The same thing happens to the elk. Good luck changing the way the masses do business.
I would take a picture of my pile of sheds for proof of credentials, but I don't have a wide enough angle lens.
Again Wayne, it is about enjoying yourself in the outdoors, not living up to someone elses expectations. I am pretty sure there are many on this site that for one reason or another can't get out like you do that really appreciate you taking the time to take them along on your adventures with your clips and pics weather you find bone or not. Keep enjoying life as you like.

Thanks oldkoot thats exactly the way I feel about it a days out in the wild is much better then that sitting home on the couch..

[Caribou_lou]

Not sure about 25 years being beginner status. Id take Danas advice. He obviously has learned a few thing when it comes to shed hunting! Wish we had deer numbers in my area to find some decent sheds. I wouldn't be on my computer right now if there were! Good luck finding some bone. Look forward to seeing all the good finds!

[dana]

Funny Wayne, I thought your first week of Jan shed hunt you were looking for whitetail sheds. And I don't see many of those in your pile. Also funny that old koot is tired of watching deer get pushed around long before they are ready to shed yet he commends Wayne for getting out the first week of Jan and doing just that. Funny that many newbies watch threads like this and think to themselves, geeze I wouldn't mind giving that a try and suddenly there are a whack of people out chasing the critters around during the first week of Jan thinking it's A O K because they saw it on the internet.

[bozzdrywall]

You know what's funny I have already picked 2 mule deer sheds and I am watching 5 other bucks with head gear. I go every day and find the bucks then watch them feed out, some times getting 20 yrds from them before I walk where they have come from. So how is that? By your logics, the deer should be long gone. Yet every year I pick up sets upon sets from the same deer year after year. And fyi these are not town deer that are used to people. So how can that be????? I would say if being outdoors walking around in any country makes you happy than do it no matter what other people think. And if you find something on your journey then that's a plus. I know what I know about shed hunting and I am happy with what ever I find, even if its not a 200 shed year. I am happy with one. Some people take shed hunting like there looking fori gold and they have the fever. I have seen it people going after herds of elk on quads waiting for the bulls to drop. Never once have I pushed any animal out of an area. I hunt the same spots year after year and the sheds are still there. So if you want to walk in the bush looking for sheds go ahead don't worry about pushing the animals they will still be there, unless you try to run them down. I will get 1947 to put up more pics from my season so far, but I am going to start a" 2013 shed pics thread ".

[hunter1947]

You know what's funny I have already picked 2 mule deer sheds and I am watching 5 other bucks with head gear. I go every day and find the bucks then watch them feed out, some times getting 20 yrds from them before I walk where they have come from. So how is that? By your logics, the deer should be long gone. Yet every year I pick up sets upon sets from the same deer year after year. And fyi these are not town deer that are used to people. So how can that be????? I would say if being outdoors walking around in any country makes you happy than do it no matter what other people think. And if you find something on your journey then that's a plus. I know what I know about shed hunting and I am happy with what ever I find, even if its not a 200 shed year. I am happy with one. Some people take shed hunting like there looking fori gold and they have the fever. I have seen it people going after herds of elk on quads waiting for the bulls to drop. Never once have I pushed any animal out of an area. I hunt the same spots year after year and the sheds are still there. So if you want to walk in the bush looking for sheds go ahead don't worry about pushing the animals they will still be there, unless you try to run them down. I will get 1947 to put up more pics from my season so far, but I am going to start a" 2013 shed pics thread ".


Can't wait for to see your 2013 shed thread and yes I will be happy to put up the sheds you find on to your thread bossdrywall...

[hunter1947]

Funny Wayne, I thought your first week of Jan shed hunt you were looking for whitetail sheds. And I don't see many of those in your pile. Also funny that old koot is tired of watching deer get pushed around long before they are ready to shed yet he commends Wayne for getting out the first week of Jan and doing just that. Funny that many newbies watch threads like this and think to themselves, geeze I wouldn't mind giving that a try and suddenly there are a whack of people out chasing the critters around during the first week of Jan thinking it's A O K because they saw it on the internet.


Dana elk sheds are my favorite find for a shed as for hunting them just like you like looking for mule deer sheds and hunting them ,,when I am out shed hunting if I see a WT shed I will pick it up on my journey LOL I call it a bonus if I find a mule deer shed in the areas I hunt for elk sheds there far and few between its like finding gold LOL..

As for WT the numbers are not in these areas I hunt for elk sheds LOL,,O ya dana I usually start hunting for elk sheds starting the first of March if you look at my movie clips on You Tube from the past few years as my shed hunt posts from previous years you will see..

Regarding not many WT sheds in my collection maybe I have not been going out early enough over the past few years ???? if this is true its called learning how to shed hunt when to head out and when not to head out ..

Maybe I should have started looking for WT sheds in the first week of Jan the last two years ???? then I might have found more deer sheds that the other shed hunters out there had already picked up before I started my elk shedding in March ???? dana as you know most elk don't start dropping there antlers till the middle of March on into mid May thats why I have not gone out many time shed hunting the past two years during the months of Jan ,Feb LOL ,,have a nice day dana http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon7.png.


Picture of a matching set of WT sheds I found two years ago first week of march you can see that the squirrels or chipmunks have all ready chewed lots of these sheds....

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/P5050027.JPG (http://javascript<strong></strong>:;)

[Ferenc]

I always wait until later to look for sheds.....starting in March...and have always found them...But then again I have no one else looking for sheds in my area...is it a bit more crowded with shed hunters out your way.....and would this not put a lot more stress on the deer pushing them around... I never find all the sheds in March...as I always pick up more in the fall also....I know its nice to get out....

[oldkoot]

Unfortunately in this area competition is stiff. Back in the day I as well never went out until around March. Then it was quite common that after a couple hours you had to head back to the truck as you had too many sheds to carry. For the most part the white-tail do not bunch up like they used to. There used to be quite a few spots with huge amounts of feed that bunched them and held them close by. Those situations are now few and far between. As a result the whitey's wander around on the many miles of fir ridges feeding on downed fir trees and branches as well as the witches hair that comes with them. They are also feeding on Mullen heads and thistle heads along the many roads that criss cross these areas. As a result sheds are few and far between. On the odd occasion when you actually get to see a large whitey it is unlikely he will be right there even a few days from then weather you stomp through the area or not. When we could find big food patches you could go back day after day and pick up fresh sheds. They were not chased out of the area. Some people think deer is a deer and no matter where you are and they will act the same. Here is an example of that not being true.

Many southern communities have many deer in town. In kimberley there are large numbers of Mule deer wandering the streets. The town has a large population of White tail all around it yet you rarely see one in town except under the cover of darkness. Yet in Grand Forks they wander around town like they own it. So maybe other areas the whitey's will clear out of an area but I have not seen that in the main trench.
Who decides how much stress is too much and which activties are O.K. and which ones are not. One member suggested that H47 take up cougar hunting. WTF ? The area H47 has been looking for WHITEY sheds has alot of cougar around. News flash.....Cougar hunt deer. So now it is Not O.K. for him to walk through the area quietly looking for sheds but it is O.K. for him to go through the same area with a pack of yapping hounds and several guys ???? In these areas there are x country skiiers, snowmobilers, hikers, dog hunters, atv riders, dog walkers, horseback riders, cat hunters, photographers ..etc. Do we stop everyone ? or Just that bad ass H47.

When Dana is getting his awesome sheep photos, how many people are driving by saying. " Why doesn't that guy leave those Sheep alone ? ". In many of the shots the sheep are looking straight into the lens. If they are watching him, they have some level of concern or they would ignore him. This concern = stress. Who decides what is acceptable?

[oldkoot]

Picked this one up Jan. 1st many years ago. The deer jumped a fence and dropped this one right beside the road. What do you think my chances of finding this would have been if I sat on the couch till March ?


http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx73/grizzlygare/th_017.jpg

[dana]

Unfortunately in this area competition is stiff. Back in the day I as well never went out until around March. Then it was quite common that after a couple hours you had to head back to the truck as you had too many sheds to carry. For the most part the white-tail do not bunch up like they used to. There used to be quite a few spots with huge amounts of feed that bunched them and held them close by. Those situations are now few and far between. As a result the whitey's wander around on the many miles of fir ridges feeding on downed fir trees and branches as well as the witches hair that comes with them. They are also feeding on Mullen heads and thistle heads along the many roads that criss cross these areas. As a result sheds are few and far between. On the odd occasion when you actually get to see a large whitey it is unlikely he will be right there even a few days from then weather you stomp through the area or not. When we could find big food patches you could go back day after day and pick up fresh sheds. They were not chased out of the area. Some people think deer is a deer and no matter where you are and they will act the same. Here is an example of that not being true.

Many southern communities have many deer in town. In kimberley there are large numbers of Mule deer wandering the streets. The town has a large population of White tail all around it yet you rarely see one in town except under the cover of darkness. Yet in Grand Forks they wander around town like they own it. So maybe other areas the whitey's will clear out of an area but I have not seen that in the main trench.
Who decides how much stress is too much and which activties are O.K. and which ones are not. One member suggested that H47 take up cougar hunting. WTF ? The area H47 has been looking for WHITEY sheds has alot of cougar around. News flash.....Cougar hunt deer. So now it is Not O.K. for him to walk through the area quietly looking for sheds but it is O.K. for him to go through the same area with a pack of yapping hounds and several guys ???? In these areas there are x country skiiers, snowmobilers, hikers, dog hunters, atv riders, dog walkers, horseback riders, cat hunters, photographers ..etc. Do we stop everyone ? or Just that bad ass H47.

When Dana is getting his awesome sheep photos, how many people are driving by saying. " Why doesn't that guy leave those Sheep alone ? ". In many of the shots the sheep are looking straight into the lens. If they are watching him, they have some level of concern or they would ignore him. This concern = stress. Who decides what is acceptable?

LMAO!!! Town sheep 50 yards off of pavement. Yes they look at me and sometimes they lick their nuts shortly after.

No where did I say Wayne had no right to go for a walk. He's the one that constantly complains about their being no deer in his areas because he never finds their sheds. Maybe if he took the advice from a vetern shed hunter to a newbie shed hunter he might find more. But nope, he knows best already. ;)

For those that think that shed hunting sounds fun, maybe they will listen. Just because the odd buck around the province has dropped early, it don't mean they all are even close to dropping. Looking for deer sheds the first week of Jan is not how you go about finding sheds. And as I cautioned before, one has to be careful not to push the buck that is still carrying his rack out of the area as this is not good for him and not good for you as a shed hunter.

I don't care about what kind of user you are. Snowshoe, ski, sled, birdwatcher what have you, it is always good advice to tell people to be careful around wildlife during the critical winter months. A lot of people don't have a clue what kind of impact they have. Seen a kid last week that I had to yell at to stop the truck when 2 deer were on the plowed road in front of us. He thought nothing of them and didn't realize they should be allowed to leave the plowed road on their own pace. Had a cow moose get up out of her bed when I was sledding to work today. I shut the sled off and gave her plenty of time to get off the trail on her own without pushing her. I explained why we were stopping and waiting to yet another work partner. No need to stress critters at this time of year. The internet is just another tool where newbies can be taught this. I'm not being an ass for bringing this up. More people reading this thread than just Wayne. ;)

[deer nut]

That is a great DEMU shed Bozzdrywall found! Wayne, I hope you find the sheds from that white-tail you were telling us about (the one that got away).:wink:

[dana]

Picked this one up Jan. 1st many years ago. The deer jumped a fence and dropped this one right beside the road. What do you think my chances of finding this would have been if I sat on the couch till March ?


http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx73/grizzlygare/th_017.jpg


Nice looking tine. It's kinda funny to me though as I probably have picked up more big sheds in the fall than I ever have in the spring. Heck, I even find big tine that is 2, 3, 4, or 5 years old. Laying on the ground being missed by even me until a few years later. It ain't like they can get up and walk away on ya. There is indeed a lot of time to pick up tine.

[hunter1947]

Nice looking tine. It's kinda funny to me though as I probably have picked up more big sheds in the fall than I ever have in the spring. Heck, I even find big tine that is 2, 3, 4, or 5 years old. Laying on the ground being missed by even me until a few years later. It ain't like they can get up and walk away on ya. There is indeed a lot of time to pick up tine.


Dana my thoughts are that where you shed hunt and live the circumstances might be different there might be less critters ??? squirrels ,porky pines ,chipmunks ,shed hunters etc they all play a big part on removal of sheds.
More open land plays a big part on critters not chewing them up over the years you might shed hunt up hi in elevation where lots of mule deer drop there antlers late spring ???,,less snow pack early spring then other years all this can be a factor lots to conceder about everything ..

I know when I used to hunt for mule deer near the cache creek area way back in the day the areas I hunted was open no squirrels around to chew up the bone I did not shed hunt back then and came across many fresh sheds as for bleached ones that had not been chewed laying on the ground that where years old..

I know one thing for the amount of miles here in the EK I have put on looking for sheds in the areas I shed hunt I find very few old sheds and if I do find an old shed most will look like the picture below ,,,I know they can't get up and walk away but there is other means that can remove them as stated above :)..

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http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/046_2_.JPG (javascript:;)

[hunter1947]

That is a great DEMU shed Bozzdrywall found! Wayne, I hope you find the sheds from that white-tail you were telling us about (the one that got away).:wink:


I wish I could find the sheds from that deer as for elk sheds the deer family don't stay in the area I hunt they are far gone when the snow gets deep snow depths can get to 10 feet in the the late winter months all animals except the moose move to lower elevation to Clearwater BC..

[hunter1947]

LMAO!!! Town sheep 50 yards off of pavement. Yes they look at me and sometimes they lick their nuts shortly after.

No where did I say Wayne had no right to go for a walk. He's the one that constantly complains about their being no deer in his areas because he never finds their sheds. Maybe if he took the advice from a vetern shed hunter to a newbie shed hunter he might find more. But nope, he knows best already. ;)

For those that think that shed hunting sounds fun, maybe they will listen. Just because the odd buck around the province has dropped early, it don't mean they all are even close to dropping. Looking for deer sheds the first week of Jan is not how you go about finding sheds. And as I cautioned before, one has to be careful not to push the buck that is still carrying his rack out of the area as this is not good for him and not good for you as a shed hunter.

I don't care about what kind of user you are. Snowshoe, ski, sled, birdwatcher what have you, it is always good advice to tell people to be careful around wildlife during the critical winter months. A lot of people don't have a clue what kind of impact they have. Seen a kid last week that I had to yell at to stop the truck when 2 deer were on the plowed road in front of us. He thought nothing of them and didn't realize they should be allowed to leave the plowed road on their own pace. Had a cow moose get up out of her bed when I was sledding to work today. I shut the sled off and gave her plenty of time to get off the trail on her own without pushing her. I explained why we were stopping and waiting to yet another work partner. No need to stress critters at this time of year. The internet is just another tool where newbies can be taught this. I'm not being an ass for bringing this up. More people reading this thread than just Wayne. ;)

Dana you don't know what my movements are when I am out shed hunting early season or late ,,I will tell you I do the same thing you do when I see animals in the winter months I don't chase them I let them be go there own way and if I did push any out in front of me I would not continue to follow deer to put stress on them ,, the deer would just go a little ways stop look back to see if I was following it ..

Dana I would love you to come to the areas where I shed hunt and see if you do any better then me shed hunting ??????..

[open-sights]

Golly, cut your nails, I just about threw up


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[Caribou_lou]

Dana I would love you to come to the areas where I shed hunt and see if you do any better then me shed hunting ??????..

I seem to remember a certain video posted where there were 2 (Mule deer) sheds in the video but only one was found. Just sayin!

[dana]

Wayne,
Have you not ever seen my shed pics. The rodents eat most of my sheds before I ever find them. You may have more human shed hunting competition but I doubt you see near as much rodent abuse as I see. Otherwise those elk sheds in your pile would be chewed to $hit. If you want to continue to think you know what you are doing shed hunting then keep at it. I'm sure I'm wrong and the vast majority of deer in the Koots are shed out by the first week of Jan. If you listen to the internet all the critters in the Koots act way differently than anywhere else on the planet. I would certainly be lost shed hunting there. Good luck to you and I look forward to reading more of you endless complaining in the future. ;)

[hunter1947]

Dana good luck to you and your family on this years 2013 shed hunt ,,,looking forward to seeing you shed finds this year :)..

[eastkoot]

Get out there Wayne. The one horned one I posted is bald today!! And don't let anyone from Birch Island or anywhere else spoil your time in the outdoors!!

[hunter1947]

Get out there Wayne. The one horned one I posted is bald today!! And don't let anyone from Birch Island or anywhere else spoil your time in the outdoors!!

Eastkoot go find that other matching side from that mule deer that you have the one side to ,,I would love to see this other matching side the two together posted up on this thread..