215 4/8 Green Score Kamloops Muley

[IronNoggin]

Anyone heard about this Monster Archery Buck??
Would LOVE to hear the story...

Wondering...
Nog

[kennyj]

Anyone heard about this Monster Archery Buck??
Would LOVE to hear the story...

Wondering...
Nog
X2 on that!
kenny

[Freshtracks]

Another Clearwater toad goes down??? :eek:

[IronNoggin]

Another Clearwater toad goes down??? :eek:

From what little I've been able to determine, it was a fair bit closer to town than that...

Nog

[swampdonkey]

Ask Jelvis could be a greenstone buck:wink:

[Weatherby Fan]

Anyone heard about this Monster Archery Buck??
Would LOVE to hear the story...

Wondering...
Nog

No worries Nog,

I'll have pictures and a story of a 200 incher in about a week for ya, but this one will b from a little further NW of Kamloops :mrgreen:
One thing I can promise ya is it won't be an archery buck.

WF

[IronNoggin]

... I'll have pictures and a story of a 200 incher in about a week for ya, but this one will b from a little further NW of Kamloops :mrgreen:

NOT if I see him First! :twisted:

Good Luck up there!

Cheers,
Nog

[Sofa King]

no pics it doesn't exist.

[kebes]

A buddy of mine shot it, got it on video and all. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4em3LKQCAQ

[IronNoggin]

no pics it doesn't exist.

LOL! In your little mind maybe... :twisted:

It EXISTS! I've seen the pix, but can't share them for somewhat obvious reasons. Hoping the Hunter will enlighten us...

Cheers,
Nog

[swampdonkey]

Is the hunter on this web site

[Sofa King]

LOL! In your little mind maybe... :twisted:

It EXISTS! I've seen the pix, but can't share them for somewhat obvious reasons. Hoping the Hunter will enlighten us...

Cheers,
Nog

what reasons?
easy for you to say that, you've seen the pics.

[IronNoggin]

Is the hunter on this web site

That I don't know.

Rather a youngish looking fellow in the pix (kind of hard for me - an OLD One - to judge though... LOL!) so thought he may well be...

Usually something of that caliber has a way of surfacing. Hoping here...

Nog

[Sofa King]

A buddy of mine shot it, got it on video and all. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4em3LKQCAQ

it is canadian at least.

[bogman]

No worries Nog,

I'll have pictures and a story of a 200 incher in about a week for ya, but this one will b from a little further NW of Kamloops :mrgreen:
One thing I can promise ya is it won't be an archery buck.


WF

Never mind you just stay home and study. The whiteys are swelling up here as we speak so I hope I can find that big boy soon. He won't make 200 but not far from it. When ya leavin?

[Weatherby Fan]

Never mind you just stay home and study. The whiteys are swelling up here as we speak so I hope I can find that big boy soon. He won't make 200 but not far from it. When ya leavin?

Hopefully get up there middle of next week,going to do some training with Cuz for a few days then see where Im at with my studies.......

[digger dogger]

I heard its 9x12pts...

[Sofa King]

I heard its 9x12pts...

i woulda passed.
i only shoot typicals.:-D

[Ahnert]

this is the first time ive posted on here.. but its true, my buddy shot it last weekend. i have pics just dont know how to upload them..

[Ahnert]

its a 5x4 typical

[Bighorn hunter]

its a 5x4 typical

a 215 4/8 5x4....... now this I have to see!!! Pics man pics!

[digger dogger]

its a 5x4 typical

Now we're getting somewhere!!! :-)

[Sofa King]

how is it that some have seen pics, but there's none up?

[Sofa King]

this is the first time ive posted on here.. but its true, my buddy shot it last weekend. i have pics just dont know how to upload them..

upload to photobucket.
double click pic to enlarge.
four boxes on right, click bottom one.
paste directly into post on here.

[Wrayzer]

A 5x4 typical ..... :neutral: ......

[keaton17]

Hey there, I am the guy who got the big boy. I've been trying to upload the photos but it wasn't letting me. His official SCI typical score is 203 5/8 inches

[Sofa King]

Hey there, I am the guy who got the big boy. I've been trying to upload the photos but it wasn't letting me. His official SCI typical score is 203 5/8 inches

is that it?
shit, and here people were saying it was 215.:-D

wow.
that's a beast.
your heart is probably still racing.
congrats.

[digger dogger]

http://tinypic.com/?t=postupload

Try this picture site...

[keaton17]

ok i just sent the pics to you

[IronNoggin]

its a 5x4 typical

Actually, it is a 5 x 4 alright, smallish brows with a little bit of junk in that region, LOADS of MASS, and Serious WEIGHT! :mrgreen:

Score better Non-Typ IMHO...


Hey there, I am the guy who got the big boy. I've been trying to upload the photos but it wasn't letting me. His official SCI typical score is 203 5/8 inches

Congratulations Young Man! That is some SERIOUS BC Mule Deer! Recognize your avatar pix, One & The Same as what I received! Thanks so much for coming on the site and Sharing! Speaking of which, Please tell us the Tale! It has GOTTA be GOOD!!!

OK to post pictures I assume? If they don't appear soon, I'll try and remedy that (with your blessing of course...)

Cheers,
Nog

[coach]

I have the pics. Will post them ASAP.

[IronNoggin]

A Teaser...

http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Ironnoggin/Heavy.jpg

[d6dan]

C'mon Nog, some of us are gettin old waiting for them. :wink:

[IronNoggin]

Methinks Coach will be posting them soon. Takes me forever to transfer from Email to an online account...

That said, this one is my Favorite! There will be others that show the rack perhaps better, but I believe this comes close to Capturing The Moment!!

http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Ironnoggin/Heavy_2.jpg

Again, CONGRATULATIONS! Well Done! :mrgreen:

Cheers,
Nog

[Bc Deer Hunter]

What the heck is that thing!!!! Largest deer of this year for bc hands down congrats buddy!!!! :D

[little moose]

forget the joke this is how to introduce yourself to the site!!!!

[digger dogger]

Oh shit!!! Thats a hell of a monster!
Congrats man...

[d6dan]

Wow!, awesome mulie..definately some weight there! Congrats man. :-D

[Gateholio]

Wow, that is some buck! Lets hear the story! :)

[Trophyslayer]

Awesome buck that thing is THICK! Please tell me this isn't your first deer

[lovemywinchester]

Wow, what a pig. Congrats.

[604redneck]

wow! hes got more mass then a wine bottle! nice deer and congrats

[boxhitch]

Nice buck , attago

all the suspense of Alfred Hitchcock , love it.

[IronNoggin]

... all the suspense of Alfred Hitchcock , love it.

Albeit somewhat unintentional Boxhitch. :wink:

My Pa, in Idaho, sent me the pix. I hadn't heard about this Magnificent Buck, so decided to "investigate" a little.
Nice to "meet" the Man behind the pictures!!

Now, what Gate suggested! Tell us The Story :mrgreen:

Cheers,
Nog

[coach]

Here you go, boys. Sorry about the delay. Had to enjoy the steaks off my daughter's two point first..



http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/coach108/Snapbucket/66998947.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/coach108/Snapbucket/91275970.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/coach108/Snapbucket/F7440561.jpg

[keaton17]

Thanks i appreciate it. if you want i can email u the pics and u can post em? After chasing 6 bucks around for a couple hours in the mornin me and my bud chris decided to give the der a chance to calm down. As we came back to the spot i spotted a 2 point on a side hill and decided to follow. he brought me to an ovegrown trail which i continued on till the end then turned back. on my way back down i seen the 2 point again. as i continued down the trail i just happened to glanse up to my left and there he was, starring me down like a bull about to charge. I instantly drew back my bow, but i had no shot due to the fir trees infront. i paced backwards about 10 steps and had a lane 1 foot x 1 foot, i placed the 60 yard pin right in the sweet spot and released. all i seen was the arrow clear the trees and hear the unmistakeable thud as the broadhead passed through (shot was a lil high) and he took off. I then dropped to my knees so overcome with buckfever i could barely spit a word out. Chris and I searched for 3 hours with no blood trail just 2 crows that would circle every once in a while. I then decided to go with my gut and follow the crows. i went up hill about 800 yards and followed a platue for another 400 until i spotted the 2 point again this time with 2 does down hill just a bit. As i walked down to them maybe 50 yards away the 2 point and 1 doe walked away but one doe stayed. As i got 20 yards from he she walked off and a magpie flew off the ground. i instantly went over there and to my complete surprise the buck laid there dead he decided to go up hill instead of down. I never realized he was that big until i seen him laying there. He weighed about 400 pounds and has 7 4/8 inch bases.

[ActionJackson017]

Wow, great story, and what an awesome shot that must have been! That thing is a beast!

[pnbrock]

I hate you!!! Jk great deer one of a lifetime foresure!

[beni]

Wow, what an awesome deer. Congratulations to you

[tomahawk]

Wow, big buck doesnt quite tell it all, glad you found him.

[IronNoggin]

... all i seen was the arrow clear the trees and hear the unmistakeable thud as the broadhead pass through (shot was a lil high) and he took off. I then dropped to my knees so overcome with buckfever i could barely spit a word out.

NO Doubt!! I do believe almost any of us would have been in the same position!!



I never realized he was that big until i seen him laying there. He weighed about 400 pounds and has 7 4/8 inch bases.

http://fishbcforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown[1].gif

WAY to stick with it and find this Monster!! You Well Earned him!! :mrgreen:

And Many Thanks for coming on here and sharing the story!!

Cheers,
Nog

[coach]

Great story! Congratulations on the buck of the year so far!

[RiverOtter]

What a smasher, congrats....

[Litzodd6]

all i can say is wow amazing deer man congrats

[ianwuzhere]

very nice deer- congrats!

How wide is he?

[Ahnert]

Il never forget this hunt with yah keaton! Many more to come. Huge congrats to you bro. Coulda been mine... Wish i wasnt lazy and went uphill instead of down

[swampdonkey]

That is a hog. Nice kamloops buck. WOW

[Brian011]

Wow! What a buck, congrats. I'm definitely jealous haha.
just curious what direction from kamloops did you get him? Close to town?

[ghost]

Awsome man that is the real deal congratulations on a wicked buck

[Call of the Wild]

That is one nice looking mule and with a bow simply amazing!!! Atta boy

[Sofa King]

absolutely amazing buck, keaton.
huge high five to ya.
and with the bow no less.
way to go.

[bowhunterbruce]

hi 5's man and a huge congrats. doing it with a bow is going to get that buck well into the pope and young record book
bhb

[Hombre]

WOW! That's one hell of a buck! Congrats!

[yama49]

Congrats on a HAWG.....

[BlacktailStalker]

Unreal, what a doozey :cool:
That shit eating grin will never go away !

[keaton17]

he is 23 0/8 inches wide

[Citori54]

Unbelievable!!!!! Most of us will hunt a lifetime and never connect on a buck like that. Congratulations, the only down side is how do you top that????

[keaton17]

we will see in 56 days when the drying period is done how he does in boone n crockett aswell

[Jarrett]

WOW - I love hunting muleys and thats exacyly what we're all searching for - Awesome - good job man and with the bow to boot!

[Swamp Rat]

Wow.. what a BUCK!! Congrats! And with a Bow!

[keaton17]

I have been asked that many times so far and the only thing ive got is to go out and work for a record elk with the bow

[Bc Deer Hunter]

Keaton mind me asking how old you are?? Congrats again on a great trophy!!!

[rifleman]

that sucker is a hog. congrats on a buck of a lifetime!!!!!

[Muleycatcher]

Cranker buck! Nice job.

[f350ps]

Wow, thats' a beauty and I love the part how you dogged him after the shot, my hat's off to ya! Lots of guys would have called it a miss and a beauty buck would never been appreciated, nice job!!!!!! K

[keaton17]

nope, i'm 20 and thanks everyone

[Krico]

That thing is unreal, what a pig. Congrats on tracking it down. I hope the clarity on your photos is better than they are appearing on here(maybe it's just my screen?), it would be a shame to not have quality shots of a trophy like that. Beauty buck nonetheless.

[Bc Deer Hunter]

Right on i hope that your mounting him!!!!!

[keaton17]

hes in the taxidermist already

[Sitkaspruce]

Sweet buck, congrats on a pi$$cutter of a deer!!!

Thanks for posting.

Cheers

SS

[dana]

Finally a true BC monster is posted up! Congrats on killing an absolute BRUTE! And with a bow, that is definately a special treat! I was your age when I killed my first monster. You are now ruined for life as you will spend countless hours trying to beat that buck! Good on ya!

[Rattler]

Congrats on a hell of a good buck most would be cloud nine to kill and with a bow yet is even sweeter. Good luck beating that one...

[Wrayzer]

Unbelievable. A true giant. Thanks for posting, a few good piss cutters get shot every year but rarely do we see them on here. Deer of a lifetime.

[M.Dean]

I think all's been said that can be said! Well, except for "Holy Shit"!!! That's what keeps us going out year after year! Congrats!

[Brambles]

Im speechless

[REMINGTON JIM]

Congrats on that GIANT buck and then to take it will a bow ! :mrgreen: RJ

[mark]

Another huge congrads young man! You probably dont even know how hard it is to find a buck like that or how rare they are! Just for fun, what are the official measurements???

[Gunner Staal]

Congrats man. Unreal. We all dream of what you've got there. And if you shot it while hiking in those Velcro white Aldo shoes.......you a god damn stud.

[Sofa King]

Im speechless

thank god!:-D:-D
just kiddin'8)

that deer does take the breath away though, as well as words.

[BCrams]

Wow that mass is something else! Congratulations!

[keaton17]

Ive only got the official sci score because the drying time isnt over and his official typical score is 203 5/8 and non typical is 215 4/8 and trust me i worked my a** off this season for him hiked the same mountain about 30 times and spooked twice as many bucks. But i will probly never relive this experience again

[keaton17]

and no i wasnt wearing them, but i was waiting for that comment haha

[benttip]

very special.good on ya young fella..

[swampdonkey]

and no i wasnt wearing them, but i was waiting for that comment haha

Even if you where wearing them who cares they worked. Nice and quite lol

[Steeleco]

hes in the taxidermist already The next 6 to 12 months are going to feel like forever!! Be sure to come back and show us him on the wall.

Congrats on a spectacular buck, likely the biggest of the year in BC and with a sharp stick no less LOL

[warnniklz]

I seen this thread started... didn't even clue in that it was about your deer

[Glenny]

What an amazing buck. Glad all your hard work paid off.

[Ahnert]

I have tons of pictures with keatons buck if someone could help me upload them

[Looking_4_Jerky]

Dude, congrats! "Wow" does not do that buck justice but I'm at a loss for better words!

One thing I can say is that it is encouraging to see bucks like that coming out of southern BC. I'm not particularly a trophy hunter, but sometimes it seems so fruitless looking for a mature deer, when you go years not hearing (first hand reports) about anything over 170-175. Regarding even that class of deer, hunters are so effective these days and so much terrain is heavily accessible that you start to wonder if they are starting to become, with seriously few exceptions, a thing of the past. I would be exceptionally curious to know the age of your deer!

Another curiosity you might be able to answer for me, is do you think that is a bush buck, or would you guess based on where you got it that it would have had access to a lot of agricultural crops (alphalpha, etc)?

It must be a good feeling to literally make deer hunters all over the world green with envy!

[gameslayer]

Great for you Man, you have a lot of jealous guys in envy enjoy the moment !!.
Great to see a young guy going hard, and enjoying hunting.

[keaton17]

i felt the same thing. The key is to get away from the other hunters and walk into where the deer feel their safe, but these areas usaually arent easy to find. This deer had access to alphalfa and judging by his fat content he took advantage of it

[Caveman]

One Word! Awesome!!

[Weatherby Fan]

Yup that's a Whopper from BC no less,that should keep ya hooked on Mule deer hunting for a while............a deer like that will keep me hunting till I'm 90
Awesome deer Keaton,congrats
WF

[kennyj]

Awesome, awesome, awesome! I don't know what else to say,but congratulations on the buck of many lifetimes.
kenny

[Benthos]

Well done!

[whitetailsheds]

Heck of a buck keaton.....incredible!! Thanks for posting!!

[whitebirch]

Keaton had you seen or knew of this buck before taking him?
Great work!

[Ramshot]

Keaton had you seen or knew of this buck before taking him?
Great work!

Local land owners sure knew of this buck!

[Rubberfist]

All the sweeter that you took that hawg with a bow. Very cool and congrats dude!

[EGLPNT]

Thats an incredible buck, congrats!

[keaton17]

I had never seen this buck before and i only heard about bucks like this being in the area. I just happened to walk down the right trail in the right area at the right time

[kootenayelkslayer]

I had never seen this buck before and i only heard about bucks like this being in the area. I just happened to walk down the right trail in the right area at the right time

Awesome man, the buck of ten lifetimes. I'm completely and utterly jealous. Congrats!!

[The Hermit]

Unreal, what a doozey :cool:
That shit eating grin will never go away !


Yep that says it all right there! hahaha well done!!

[keaton17]

can any one tell me what big buck contest there are and how to enter them please and thank you

[Ramshot]

Here is buck in Velvet from this summer.
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/VelvetBuck.jpg

[lovemywinchester]

Did you go look for him Ramshot? I wonder how many guys were on his tail.

[keaton17]

wow, thanks for putting up the pic. Ive only heard of one other guy seeing him i guess theres more.

[IronNoggin]

wow, thanks for putting up the pic. Ive only heard of one other guy seeing him i guess theres more.

You can BET on that! My Buddy from Kamloops INSTANTLY recognized the buck from the pictures, told me exactly where he was, and noted several of our mutual Friends had been HOT on his tail! :-D

You got SERIOUSLY Lucky!! :mrgreen:

And there's Nothing wrong with that at all in my books!

Cheers,
Nog

[Ramshot]

Side view...
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/VelvetBuck-3.jpg

[BiG Boar]

you ought to write a story for big buck magazine. Probably cover material. Could wait till its mounted and then get some great field pics. Big congrats man! Something we all dream of.

[tomahawk]

can any one tell me what big buck contest there are and how to enter them please and thank you

Dont know of any that you enter after the fact of dropping the buck. Fish and Game clubs and local big buck contests you enter up front with your membership or entry fee and those folks are eligible for the biggest buck contest.

[6.5x55mm]

Hey K truly a stomper. Euro mount for sure :) with a bow amazing. see you later M

[Z71]

WOW!!!!!!.....major congratulations man!!!...that is a massive pig of a buck, you have accomplished the feat that many others dream about. Enjoy.

"all i seen was the arrow clear the trees and hear the unmistakeable thud as the broadhead passed through (shot was a lil high) and he took off."...OH YEAH! that's the feeling I live for. Every time I walk past my big buck on the wall I can't help but stop and admire him and relive some memories from that hunt, and that was twelve years ago.

[Jelvis]

Was that the buck from on the Indian Rez in Kamloops or Chase?
Dome Mountain on the TKumloops band?
Talk at me

[dana]

Ramshot,
Great live pics! Nice to see a before to go along with the after. Anyone pick up any previous year's sheds off this buck? With the mass he carries down low, he probably ain't a younger buck.

[pro 111]

Methinks Coach will be posting them soon. Takes me forever to transfer from Email to an online account...

That said, this one is my Favorite! There will be others that show the rack perhaps better, but I believe this comes close to Capturing The Moment!!

http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Ironnoggin/Heavy_2.jpg

Again, CONGRATULATIONS! Well Done! :mrgreen:

Cheers,
NogSure looks like a blacktail. Beutiful deer. Good job.

[Ramshot]

Ramshot,
Great live pics! Nice to see a before to go along with the after. Anyone pick up any previous year's sheds off this buck? With the mass he carries down low, he probably ain't a younger buck.
For the record, my neighbours pics. He allowed me too post them.

[dutchie]

we will see in 56 days when the drying period is done how he does in boone n crockett aswell

you mean Pope and Young right? That is a fantastic deer! I gotta say deer with bases like that and mass like that are few and far between! Congrats again on a memory of a life time!

Dutchie

[keaton17]

he will be in pope n young but its almost a forsure for boone n crockett aswell

[Looking_4_Jerky]

That deer looks so fat in those field pics that you probably could have outrun him across the field :-D.

Regardless, it is interesting to see the steady supply of high-quality feed that (along with age and good genes) it takes to grow a buck like that. When you consider what a bush buck would have to do to get that kind of nutrient intake, it's no wonder they are less likely to attain those sizes (not to say they don't exist though). Another factor is that ag-feeding deer are often protected by the restricted access created by private parcels, which helps them survive longer than many of their bush counterparts and long enough to put some heavy bone on their heads. If that thing lived in Monte Hills it probably would have been whacked as a 2 point!

[300H&H]

he will be in pope n young but its almost a forsure for boone n crockett aswell

It will make Boone, this rack will not shrink that much (B&C min score is 170" typ).

When I first saw the thread, I thought "yeah right, another thread full of rumors and no pictures".

I was happy to be wrong.

Super buck, congratulations.

[RBooth]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j20/Kelloggs101/20121101_154945.jpg

Same gene pool?? Kamloops buck, within 10min of city limits. 4x4, 6.5" bases.

[coach]

I have tons of pictures with keatons buck if someone could help me upload them

Send them to me and I'll post them. Performancegolf@hotmail.com.

Congrats again on a hell of a nice buck!

[MattB]

It will make Boone, this rack will not shrink that much (B&C min score is 170" typ).

When I first saw the thread, I thought "yeah right, another thread full of rumors and no pictures".

I was happy to be wrong.

Super buck, congratulations.

Nice buck! B and C min is 190 for typs.

[280 77]

Incredible buck , congrats.

[Mr. Dean]

KILLER Muley.
Like how you hunted tha game trails....

[keaton17]

boone n crockett min score is 180 to get in for typicals and 190 to be put in the alltime category

[Piperdown]

Coach quit playing a loungo and disappearing post those pics :)

[Timbow]

Wow, what a beauty. Congradulations.

[Gateholio]

Just wondering if this buck was in a bow only hunting area?

[keaton17]

nope, he was fair game for a rifle too

[warnniklz]

Kitten... I can post those pics if you want...

[Gateholio]

nope, he was fair game for a rifle too

That's pretty cool that you managed to get a giant buck with an arrow, in a GOS.... ;)

[MattB]

boone n crockett min score is 180 to get in for typicals and 190 to be put in the alltime category

Yes. Mule deer nuts usually refer to boone and crockett mule deer as those that net over 190". Your buck is a good one! Let us know how he tapes out in the end.

[hunter1993ap]

awesome mule deer. congrats, man that thing is a pig!!

[proguide66]

HOLY SHITE.........can only imagine wtf that must have felt like drawing back on ! what a sweet experience !! very very cool !

[landphil]

Did you cut two tags for that brute? 'Cause thats a buck and a half.:shock::grin:


Nice work, congrats to you, not bad for a pointy stick hunter!:mrgreen:

[keaton17]

whats your email warren?

[hillclimber]

I'll admit when I first seen this thread i thought Jelvis started it :)

A HUGE, and I mean HUGE congrats to you sir for getting a once in a lifetime buck... And with a pointy stick to boot!!! Many folk spend their lifetime to get a glimpse at a buck like that. I wish you the best of luck to top that throughout your hunting career:-D

Stefan

[Jack Russell]

What a beauty! Good goin'!

[Ltbullken]

Huge! Wow good job!

[Ourea]

Some very hard core trophy mule deer hunters have spent decades in pusuit of such a buck.
For you to pull it off at this stage of your hunting career is wonderful.
For you to do it with a bow is amazing.
The high water mark you have set will be tough to replicate.
Sure you are up for it though!!!
Good on you and congratulations.

[coach]

Sorry about the delay. Here's a few more pics:

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/coach108/Snapbucket/B3789B2A.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/coach108/Snapbucket/F41224D2.jpg

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/coach108/Snapbucket/7702BFCB.jpg

[coach]

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/coach108/Snapbucket/D3814A8C.jpg

[guywitha270]

PLEASE let us know when the public viewings will be!!!

[Islandeer]

He is a heart stoppin gagger!!!!

[BiG Boar]

How long was it till you found him? My heart would have been going crazy with worry until he was tongue out in front of me. What a great story and buck!

[keaton17]

took close to 3 hours to find him

[bruin]

What a fantastic buck! All of us spend our hours in the bush wondering if we'll ever get a chance at a buck like that. Big congrats to you! Think of the hours you'll stare at him on your wall, reliving a great day, the highs and lows. Love it!

[keaton17]

Got the ageing back today and he was 6 years old

[J_T]

Got the ageing back today and he was 6 years old How do they age them?

[Weatherby Fan]

That's pretty cool that you managed to get a giant buck with an arrow, in a GOS.... ;)

All's I can say is if I new about that deer I wouldn't be hunting with a bow............he would be getting a sound thrashing from my Weatherby :wink:
Keaton17 you must have nerves of steel.
WF

[keaton17]

they take a tooth from the front of the lower jaw, grind it down and do an aging process. your local wildlife branch will do it for you.

[IronNoggin]

Got the ageing back today and he was 6 years old

Awfully Quick turn-around on that. I've submitted teeth before, and it usually takes months before you hear anything back.

They must have a "special interest" in this buck, probably due to his size...

Cheers,
Nog

[J_T]

they take a tooth from the front of the lower jaw, grind it down and do an aging process. your local wildlife branch will do it for you. Hmm, thanks. And congrats on the bow harvest. The reason I ask, is that you can only estimate at best the age of an ungulate beyond 2 yrs old. There are no rings on a tooth. Grinding it down might tell you how much enamel is left, but there are no rings. It's more accurate if we look at the gums. But even that is a function of what they've been eating. No doubt he's a mature buck and probably is close to 6, but saying he's six is probably a best guess only.

[BiG Boar]

I bet it's a 3 Y/O.

actually 3.5 because they are born in the spring.

Just joking obviously.

[IronNoggin]

... There are no rings on a tooth. Grinding it down might tell you how much enamel is left, but there are no rings.

Not at all trying to be rude here by any means, but where did you get that from?

Aging mammals by tooth analysis (cementum annuli aka growth rings) has been around for a considerably long period of time. I used this method myself in the case of Beluga Whales in the Arctic. And, in general, it is a fair bit more accurate than relying on wear patterns when dealing with ungulates.

Here's a little background information on that:

http://www.deerage.com/faqs.htm

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jwmg.133/abstract

Wildlife managers have been relying on this type of analysis for years. I suspect their analysis of the buck in question is probably very close.

Cheers,
Nog

[f350ps]

Hmm, thanks. And congrats on the bow harvest. The reason I ask, is that you can only estimate at best the age of an ungulate beyond 2 yrs old. There are no rings on a tooth. Grinding it down might tell you how much enamel is left, but there are no rings. It's more accurate if we look at the gums. But even that is a function of what they've been eating. No doubt he's a mature buck and probably is close to 6, but saying he's six is probably a best guess only.
So why did we have the "Tooth for the Truth" program for all those years? K

[Gateholio]

All's I can say is if I new about that deer I wouldn't be hunting with a bow............he would be getting a sound thrashing from my Weatherby :wink:
Keaton17 you must have nerves of steel.
WF

Absolutely! I'd be hunting him with my 300WSM and 130gr TTSX! :)

The reason I asked if it was a bow only zone is just because of that...Most guys would be packing a rifle. Seems like many of the really big animals that get taken with a bow are in GOS, by bowhunters that don't put the bow away just because bow season is over.

[Jack Russell]

Oh man, what a buck! Congratulations to you! Quit muley hunting now while you are ahead (another galaxy ahead!) and focus on a different species of ungulate!! You have set the bar high for yourself and probably the mule deer hunters of BC!! Congrats again - what a freakin' ridge runner that one is...

[mr7mm]

wow congrats!!! thats what i would call a DOOZER

[J_T]

So why did we have the "Tooth for the Truth" program for all those years? K I always wondered that and supported it too. Years ago I talked with the Section Head for MOE and he said it was bogus. They couldn't really tell the age by grinding teeth. They sold the demise of it as a lack of funds.


Not at all trying to be rude here by any means, but where did you get that from?

Aging mammals by tooth analysis (cementum annuli aka growth rings) has been around for a considerably long period of time. I used this method myself in the case of Beluga Whales in the Arctic. And, in general, it is a fair bit more accurate than relying on wear patterns when dealing with ungulates.

Here's a little background information on that:

http://www.deerage.com/faqs.htm

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jwmg.133/abstract

Wildlife managers have been relying on this type of analysis for years. I suspect their analysis of the buck in question is probably very close.

Cheers,
Nog No worries, not offended. I too always thought this was the case. I decided to bring it up with my dentist a couple of years ago. He happens to be a RMEF Lifetime member, German (I believe that applies), and a very avid outdoorsman and hunter. He took a lot of time to show me how all of these approaches, simply are not an accurate determination of age using teeth. Yes, we can determine the age of an ungulate up to 'mature' but once they are an adult aging on teeth is not possible. Take some time and ask your Dentist the next time you are in for some work. There are no rings on ungulate teeth. You have enamel, dentum and pulp (in the case of an immature animal you have milk).

[WKCotts]

what a pig! enjoy that p&y buck!

[Gamebuster]

this isn't the case, check this out..I agree with nog, estimating age based on cementum (new layer laid down annually) has been around a long time.

http://www.matsonslab.com/html/Techniques/CementumAging/CementumAging.htm

I always wondered that and supported it too. Years ago I talked with the Section Head for MOE and he said it was bogus. They couldn't really tell the age by grinding teeth. They sold the demise of it as a lack of funds.

No worries, not offended. I too always thought this was the case. I decided to bring it up with my dentist a couple of years ago. He happens to be a RMEF Lifetime member, German (I believe that applies), and a very avid outdoorsman and hunter. He took a lot of time to show me how all of these approaches, simply are not an accurate determination of age using teeth. Yes, we can determine the age of an ungulate up to 'mature' but once they are an adult aging on teeth is not possible. Take some time and ask your Dentist the next time you are in for some work. There are no rings on ungulate teeth. You have enamel, dentum and pulp (in the case of an immature animal you have milk).

[moose2]

Congratulations on a terrific buck, he looks great.
Mike

[BCbillies]

Congrats! The right place at the right time and you got er done . . . very impressive.

[keaton17]

Thanks everyone

[kennyg826]

That dog in the back of the buggy looks like "I don't know weather to eat it that thing or make love to it!". Congrats on a great buck!

[TylerMc44]

i got a pic i can txt to someone PM me your number its a monster alright

[mark]

Thanks everyone

Hey Keaton, I asked earlier if you could post the score measurements? Any chance you have them handy, just curious here....

[keaton17]

oh, thought i did but he scores 203 5/8 typical.

[f350ps]

oh, thought i did but he scores 203 5/8 typical.
Don't worry, you did, twice! That's a hell of buck, congrats! K

[BiG Boar]

Hey Keaton, I asked earlier if you could post the score measurements? Any chance you have them handy, just curious here....


Don't worry, you did, twice! That's a hell of buck, congrats! K

Thats a score. Not the measurementS

[mark]

Keaton, the measurements are the lengths of the tines, mass's etc that the scorer uses to obtain the score. Whoever scored it for you should of given you a score sheet.

[keaton17]

here they are, read it left side first then right. Lengths, Main beam 26 3/8, 27 3/8. G1 1 6/8, 1 5/8. G2 16 6/8, 16 6/8. G3 8 7/8, 8 5/8. G4 10 1/8, 12 2/8.

Circumference C1 7 3/8, 7 5/8. C2 6 1/8, 5 6/8. C3 5 4/8, 5 3/8. C4 5 7/8, 6 0/8.

Inside span of main beam - 23 0/8

Total score - 203 5/8

[mark]

here they are, read it left side first then right. Lengths, Main beam 26 3/8, 27 3/8. G1 1 6/8, 1 5/8. G2 16 6/8, 16 6/8. G3 8 7/8, 8 5/8. G4 10 1/8, 12 2/8.

Circumference C1 7 3/8, 7 5/8. C2 6 1/8, 5 6/8. C3 5 4/8, 5 3/8. C4 5 7/8, 6 0/8.

Inside span of main beam - 23 0/8

Total score - 203 5/8

Wow Keaton, almost 50" mass is incredible!
Im assuming that the inline (extra) point is 12 " ?

[keaton17]

10 4/8 inches on the extra point

[MattB]

Awesome buck man, thats about as heavy as they come!

[jesseapeacock]

4/8 = 1/2 fool.

[hunter1993ap]

4/8 = 1/2 fool.

all measured in 8th fool!

[OutWest]

all measured in 8th fool!

Forgive him, his tag says he's a "certified hillbilly".

[The Dude]

4/8 = 1/2 fool.

Someone should read more before insulting folks, if ever.

[mark]

4/8 = 1/2 fool.

Sure it does, but scoring measurements are recorded in 8ths ...... fool

[Ltbullken]

He's huge!! Way to go!

[Bud]

now that is a great BUCK!!!!! and with a bow even, great job beautiful deer!!!