Rub or not rub.

[igojuone]

I know what some were thinking and if you came looking for that your sick but seriously is this a rub or not.

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/igojuone/Rub%20or%20not%20rub/P4070005.jpg

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/igojuone/Rub%20or%20not%20rub/P4070001.jpg

[Darksith]

not a rub by an ungulate anyway IMO. Is there a fallen tree below it? In my experience, which isn't huge I will state right off the top, they don't rub the big trees.

[hunter1993ap]

they do rub big trees but that is not a rub. it looks quite old anyways but i dont think its a rub. i have found rubs on trees that big and bigger. i think.. hard to tell by the picture how big the tree is.

[Swamp mule]

Looks like machine damage. Not a animal nor tree rub.

[dragonslayer]

Also looked at pics not a rub, not even close, machine damage my guess.

[The Dude]

I guess I'm Just sick, so never mind..... :rolleyes:

Someone choinked that with a skidder wheel. Also, big firs and Hemlock are very rarely rubbed. Small lodgepole pines and cedars for coniferous, and largely alder, birch and willows for deciduous. IME, anyway.

[igojuone]

Didn't think it was but no logging or other machine traffic in area and same spot I saw a huge whitey last year in Sept so some wishful thinking I guess.

[Jagermeister]

Sometimes blackbears and grizzlies too will bite a chunk or two of bark out of a tree. Not sure of the reason, but could be behaviour similar to bears scratching trees too.

[Jagermeister]

Also could be an area peeled off by human when checking for pine beetle.

[SPEYMAN]

Very possible it is a Bear marking tree.How high was it up from ground level?

[The Dude]

Didn't think it was but no logging or other machine traffic in area and same spot I saw a huge whitey last year in Sept so some wishful thinking I guess.

Yeah, but not on a big Fir like that.

[BearSniper]

Doesn't that look a little high to be a rub ? When the bucks rub aren't their heads down?

[ACE]

Machine marked ...... look at the cross grain marks in the sapwood. Fir tree, with the release of pitch .....is it bumper high from the ground?

[The Dude]

Rubs can be made by moose or elk also. I've seen Elk rubs 7' up, all the bark stripped, so that's not a factor here.

[ACE]

Very possible it is a Bear marking tree.How high was it up from ground level?

Have found many bear marked trees.......they don't look like that.

[untilthelastbeat]

i would say bear. iv seen a few trees that have been chewed and looks like you can see a couple tooth scratches. just my opinion.

[ianwuzhere]

Looks like machine damage. Not a animal nor tree rub.
x2!!!!!!!!

[hunter1993ap]

ive found elk rubs on trees that big around, that i can hold my rifle up and just barely touch the tops of his tines with the end of my barrel. i am six feet tall and my barrel is 26 inches long!!

[huntwriter]

These are white-tail deer rubs.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/huntwriter/WT-rub.jpg

On the left is a traditional rub made by many generations of bucks. This particular one is 15 years old and had just been refreshed two days before the photo was taken.
On the right is a incidental rub. Incidental rubs are the most common rubs hunters see. For hunting or scouting these rubs have no insignificance other than to let you know a buck has been in the area.

The rubs you want to look for are: Traditional rubs, cluster rubs in thickets, and sign post rubs. Cluster rubs often mark a buck staging area. Signpost rubs mark a crossing or if they appear in a line (Several trees are rubbed) serve as way marker to a important funnel or trail crossing.

Hope this helps.

[kennyj]

Looks like a truck rub to me.
kenny

[jetboat jim]

elk rub found last week 7 feet high..............

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/jetboatjimmy/koots088.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/jetboatjimmy/koots086.jpg

[Walking Buffalo]

I don't think this is a rub.

There are no tine marks.

Is the exposed area only in this one side of the tree? If yes, how would antlers make this mark without messing up bark on other areas of the trunk??




not a rub by an ungulate anyway IMO. Is there a fallen tree below it? In my experience, which isn't huge I will state right off the top, they don't rub the big trees."

Who is "they"?





Hmmmm.....


http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy10/keetspics/DSC01747-1.jpg

[huntwriter]

Looks like a truck rub to me.
kenny

Kenny the image on the left was taken on my hunting lease in Illinois. I observed each year bucks returning to that rub and the landowner told me that he observed bucks for some years previous to my lease rubbing on that tree, he was actually the one showing that tree to me the day I signed the lease.