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On Friday a friend of my dads pulled into the parking lot of his office with a mulie he just shot in the back of his truck. It had a 32" outside spread on a typical 4x4 frame. I'm told that the tines are all at least 12" long and the rack has heaps of mass all the way out. The 5" brow tines start very heavy and curl forward like bull horns.They are guessing that this buck will go over 230 points...which may make it a new typical record according to the boone & crockett site. I have been promised pics in the next day or two......
I just thought I'd toss this out there to see if anyone else has heard any rumors of this buck yet.
mtnmax
11-18-2006, 09:40 PM
oh ya PICS!!!!
YOU PROMISED
30-06
11-18-2006, 09:41 PM
ahha cant wait for these pics
boonerbuck
11-19-2006, 12:04 AM
230 typ net.................dream on!!!
I've seen bucks with what you describe and then some score nowhere near that.
Outside spread doesnt score so it's going to need a real wide inside with some serious main beams.
I would love it to be true though. Even if you are off by 20 inches we have a new prov record.
Mr. Dean
11-19-2006, 01:24 AM
Bring It Oooooon!
with a mulie he just shot in the back of his truck Hope the back of the guys truck wasn't damaged from the shot:lol:
bsa30-06
11-19-2006, 10:35 AM
Record or not it sounds like a hell of a buck, can't wait to see the pics.
LMAO!!!! 12 inch long tines??? Do the math. It takes way more than 12 inches to add to 230. What, does it have 60 or 70 inches of mass? :) Sounds like a whole lot of wishing and a whole lot of ground shrinkage. ;)
ianwuzhere
11-19-2006, 09:56 PM
damaged truck or not- sounds like a beauty- would love to shoot that especially in the back of the truck- makes packin it out great... cant wait to see pix
willyqbc
11-20-2006, 03:41 PM
LMAO!!!! 12 inch long tines??? Do the math. It takes way more than 12 inches to add to 230.
I beg to differ
Lets assume a few things here and see where the math leads us
-I was told by email from Tank that it's got a 32" outside spread...if its a clean 4X4 lets assume a 28" inside spread
-if I recall correctly the main beam is generally longer than the inside spread but lets just call it 28" as well
-Lets assume that the G2 will generally be 1 1/2 to two times the tine length so lets call it 20"
- mass....hmmm lets say 7", 6", 6", 5"
- Add 12" each for the G3 and G4 and 5" for the brows and you have a side that equals 101"....double that and its 202...add 28" inside spread and by my math that equals up to 230" gross
Still waiting on the pictures though!!!:lol:
Chris
Took the words right out of my mouth willyman! I was about to type the same thing in response to danas post! A buck as you described, is very possible, i believe the world record typical is about 230. we just dont seeum in BC well ever i guess!
On another note, ive seen a shed 4 point shed found around here that measured 101" so they are out there!
Dream On Little Dreamer. When no tape gets put on a rack and the guys 'guess it' to be 230, chances are it's probably a 160 class dink. ;) I don't suspect the Burris Buck to fall anytime soon, especially not in BC. I'm sorry if I sound blunt but rumors of world class bucks rarely ever pan out. Just seen too much speculation over the years on the ol' world wide web.
WoodOx
11-20-2006, 07:04 PM
Dana did you score this year on MassNTrash - or any other nice buck?
OK tank you better make pics and a green score your priority #1, the sooner the better! You just cant make a post like this then leave us hanging! Its your dads buddy, get his no. and drive to his house with a camera, bucks like this dont happen to often!
BCrams
11-20-2006, 07:23 PM
Dana did you score this year on MassNTrash - or any other nice buck?
Ahhhhhhh Mass n Trash ..... what a buck he is from those shed finds........!!
Tank - you'd better have pics up soon.......
willyqbc
11-20-2006, 09:41 PM
I gotta say that I know Tanks Dad and have hunted with him several times. Knowing the type of guy he is I suspect there may be something more than internet rumour here8) I often suspected we might be capable of a world record mulie here...time will tell!:lol:
Chris
jessbennett
11-20-2006, 10:34 PM
hey i know a "dink" when i see one.......:lol: :wink: :roll:
Tinney
11-21-2006, 12:28 AM
Common guys. Pics and a green score NOW. You can't just post this crap and not prove up.
Iron-Head
11-21-2006, 10:04 AM
Pic's Pic's Pic's Pic's...:lol:
30-06
11-21-2006, 10:41 AM
Pics,pics,pics,pics
WoodOx
11-21-2006, 10:51 AM
does anyone know tank? As far as I can tell he hasnt even been on here since he started this thread. If you know him, give him a shout and put an end to our curiousity pains! :D
LMAO!!!! 12 inch long tines??? Do the math. It takes way more than 12 inches to add to 230. What, does it have 60 or 70 inches of mass? :) Sounds like a whole lot of wishing and a whole lot of ground shrinkage. ;)
Come on now Dana....Just cause you didn't shoot it doesn't mean it can't be big:eek: !
Just kidding..I'm glad everyone is gettin work up over this...thats what rumors are for!
Word is this buck should fall in between 220 and 230 gross. It has a kicker that may acount for 6 or 7 of those points so its probably not going to bust the 30 year old world record. That being said it is still going to be BIG and I would expect it to more than threaten the current BC record.
Unless all those involved are ******ed and its a "160 class dinker"
WoodOx
11-21-2006, 11:08 AM
Tank - can you get a picture man? Just to appease us!
willyqbc
11-21-2006, 11:11 AM
AAARGH!!....KICKERS....the death of many a good record bid!!!!
agaucher...I do know Tank quite well, he lives a block from me and we hunt together all the time.....fear not, I'm pushing him for the pics pretty hard seeing as I'm at the top of the email list to get them!!! hehehehe!!!
Chris
MattB
11-21-2006, 12:12 PM
Im hoping this rumor is true, cant wait to see the pics!
Also, just warning you quesnel boys....theres gonna be a bit more hunting pressure in your neck of the woods next season :lol:
BCrams
11-21-2006, 12:16 PM
Quesnel it is ......
You boys better find those hidden big bucks you see this year or we'll take them next year for you.
Looking forward to the pics - I am sure they will be circulated via emails before they show up on here if its as big as it is.
TOP_PREDATOR
11-21-2006, 02:15 PM
I Know Tank and his Father top guys,if he says the buck is big its big.
I have seen the photos,but being a New Zealander i know very little about mule deer so won't comment on how big it is.:)
blaker_99
11-21-2006, 02:23 PM
Tank.... How about you post some pics to resolve this entire thread!! As far as i'm concerned Tank just realized he was just having an amazing dream and doesn't want to fess up to it. Prove me wrong tank would love to see the monster.
boonerbuck
11-21-2006, 02:34 PM
I Know Tank and his Father top guys,if he says the buck is big its big.
Theres little doubt it's big. There is a mountain of doubt that it is the new world record and for good reason.
Theres little doubt it's big. There is a mountain of doubt that it is the new world record and for good reason.
I sincerly doubt its going to be new world record as well. I have only heard that it may gross around the 230 mark.....keeping in mind that it has a kicker, the net will be lower. I started this post to see if anyone else has heard of the buck as I hadn't seen pics yet.
If all goes well, pics should be up tonight.
brno375
11-21-2006, 02:50 PM
The only big mulie I have heard about is a 220" NT that someone brought into Corlane's two weeks ago.
boonerbuck
11-21-2006, 02:51 PM
The only big mulie I have heard about is a 220" NT that someone brought into Corlane's two weeks ago.
I heard about him too.:)
Tinney
11-21-2006, 08:14 PM
OK tank! It's tonight! Where are the pics!
An extra eh? That right there is why I doubted the World Record claim. BC is very famous for producing 'What if' bucks. That trash factor is what gets us every time. If the gross is including a 6 inch extra, you will be loosing a bare min of 12 inches from the score. Then you will have the side to side deductions. Probably one hell of a great buck. Hopefully the New Provincial Record from last year gets topped. See that I can believe, World Record, not a chance. :) Now lets see some pics before we have a riot on our hands. :)
WoodOx
11-21-2006, 08:25 PM
Agreed.
Anyone have a pic of the one that busted last years BC record? I am told he was taken in Dawsons creek area. Anyone know?
BCrams
11-21-2006, 08:47 PM
It was taken by the local outfitter on his own hunt south of Dawson Creek. I have a pic somewhere but someone will have it.
WoodOx
11-21-2006, 08:49 PM
cool ty BCRam
Well the pics are in. So as soon as he gets back to us with the thumbs up to paste his face across the interweb, I will toss them up here....stay tuned:roll: .
Tank we are tuned, no worries there, just give us some good pics and run a tape over the brute to eliminate the BS factor!
todbartell
11-21-2006, 09:35 PM
blot his face out
blacksn95
11-21-2006, 09:43 PM
Hurry the anticipation is killing me!!!!
RoadKing
11-22-2006, 11:48 AM
Someone's loving the power of dangling the tidbit of information out there, then providing nothing...
willyqbc
11-22-2006, 01:45 PM
Ease up boys....he wants to post it up but he's awaiting the permission of the shooter to post his deer on the internet. I'm sure if it were your deer you would want to be consulted before it went up on the web.
Chris
Ease up boys....he wants to post it up but he's awaiting the permission of the shooter to post his deer on the internet. I'm sure if it were your deer you would want to be consulted before it went up on the web.
Chris
Wily, if it were my deer, id post pics here before i washed the blood off my hands!!! How long does it take to ask the guy??? Block his face out if he doesnt want the fame!
If I were him I'd keep it off the internet and only release the pics after he gets on the cover of Muley Crazy. ;)
Iron-Head
11-22-2006, 07:15 PM
:lol: This is the laugh of denial... Where's the pics'
30-06
11-22-2006, 07:15 PM
PICS,PICS,PICS,PICS,PICS,,,,NOW im dieing here haha
If I were him I'd keep it off the internet and only release the pics after he gets on the cover of Muley Crazy. ;)
Hey dana is that a rule they have??? they wouldnt run a story if you already posted a pic here. If so good to know!
Tinney
11-22-2006, 10:04 PM
Oh myGod!! I just got what I think are pics of this monster in my email.....holy shiteness!! I won't post because of the privacy thing....tough luck boys!
beeker
11-22-2006, 10:37 PM
this is getting out of hand... would someone please black out the guys face and quit f-ing around here... like seriously
Schmaus
11-23-2006, 05:33 AM
Oh myGod!! I just got what I think are pics of this monster in my email.....holy shiteness!! I won't post because of the privacy thing....tough luck boyshttp://forums.accuratereloading.com/stirring.gif (javascript:void(0))
dave_fras
11-23-2006, 09:35 AM
i think its a bunch of bull.....
Sorry about the delay. Heres the buck taken last friday.
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/big_buck11.jpg
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/bigbuck2.jpg
Iron-Head
11-23-2006, 10:13 AM
Looks like one of the bucks the "Dana" crew took last year, Thats a beaute' My congrats to the guy!
MB_Boy
11-23-2006, 10:18 AM
Definitely one heck of a nice deer..........but I think I would have passed...:lol: :lol: :wink:
Congrats to the hunter on a nice buck.
BIGHUNTERFISH
11-23-2006, 10:35 AM
I think you would have passed ''out''. :lol:
Elkhound
11-23-2006, 10:51 AM
I think you would have passed ''out''. :lol:
Not to mention I would be shaking like a leaf. Hard to aim like that:lol: Great buck......only in my dreams
blaker_99
11-23-2006, 11:17 AM
great buck has anyone put a tape to him to see an actual green score? let us know the figures looks like a big buck contest pic forsure cheers. thanks for impressing all of us.
Beverly
11-23-2006, 11:35 AM
WOW! Nice one :)
todbartell
11-23-2006, 11:37 AM
what a pig!
Sieg-MM
11-23-2006, 12:21 PM
That's on hell of a buck! Except for the drop tine, his rack is very Symmetrical. Should score real well, but not 230. Congradulations on that monster.
MattB
11-23-2006, 12:25 PM
WOW! Thats one awesome deer!
boonerbuck
11-23-2006, 12:29 PM
Should gross real nice though.
Awesome buck.
willyqbc
11-23-2006, 01:09 PM
If I recall what Tank told me they taped it a little over 220 gross and right around 212 net....should have the provincial record with room to spare. I suspect the pics may not do it justice. I believe Berreth in P.G. is getting his hands on it this friday and I just happen to be getting my 7B buck compulsory inspected on sunday so i'll see what I can find out for a score.
Chris
Tinney
11-23-2006, 01:52 PM
Well, apparently got BIGGER one in my email....Holy smokers! That thing's huge!
bigwhiteys
11-23-2006, 01:57 PM
Damn nice buck thats for sure... no 230" typical monster as thought but still a damn nice deer.
My dads buddy took a 230" Non-Typ muley in region 7 this year. It's a damn nice buck too with a bit of trash up top.
Happy Hunting!
Carl
Schmaus
11-23-2006, 01:59 PM
I've seen quite a few bucks coming out of 7b this year big bucks.
Willyq is right. The buck will be green scored friday and the official tally will be made available after the weekend.
they taped it a little over 220 gross and right around 212 net...
Hell of a Buck....Record or Not !
BIG CONGRATS to the Fella 8)
Alpine85
11-23-2006, 04:11 PM
Awsome!!! Definitely a dirty giant
wetcoaster
11-23-2006, 05:17 PM
:eek: :eek:
What a monster!
I have been reading through all the posts and it looks like we are just assumng it was shot in the Quesnel area? Can anyone confirm what region the buck is from?
To those asking questions about publishing, I have sold pictures to magazines and most of them just buy your pic for a one time use and you retain it's future rights, sometimes magazines will ask that you don't publish the picture for a set amount of time (1 year aftr selling it to them etc. and yes there are some that actually buy pics outright (National Georaphic etc) but it costs them so it isn't widely practiced. Either way I don't think you need to worry about that when posting on the net just reduce the quality so that it couldn't be usefull.
That buck is a true monster, Lived up to the talk!!! Worth the wait for the pics. Definately a dream buck of a lifetime for a muley nut! Pat that boy on the back for me. Now the quo I ask, is that guy a monster buck seeker, that hunts like crazy passing up bucks that most dream of, or is he just a average deer hunter that would of shot any 4 point, but happened to have a lucky day!
30-06
11-23-2006, 06:49 PM
nice deer congrates
A Toad from Way Back alright!!!! Super buck. Can't wait to hear what Rick tapes it out at. Congrats to the lucky hunter!!! That is a buck of several lifetimes.
As for Muley Crazy and the other rags, they perfer that the pics stay off the internet until they publish. That is just a request though. When a true Monster like this buck gets killed, it can sell a lot more mags if no one has seen it before.
3kills
11-23-2006, 07:04 PM
thats an awesome buck for sure i love it...
bsa30-06
11-23-2006, 07:24 PM
WOW!!!!! That is a awesome buck,congrats to all involved.Thanxs for the pics.
Farmer
11-23-2006, 07:54 PM
Very impressive!!! Congrats to the hunter. Thanks to Tank for posting the pictures.
Now the quo I ask, is that guy a monster buck seeker, that hunts like crazy passing up bucks that most dream of, or is he just a average deer hunter that would of shot any 4 point, but happened to have a lucky day!
Apparently he and his hunting buddy spotted this buck on the first day of their week long hunt. It was 800 yrds away and quickly moved into the bush. They spent the rest of the trip passing up all other shooting opportunities, trying to find this guy again. They finally found him on the afternoon of the last day of the hunt.
This buck came out of region 7B.
From what I've heard the shooter is a very accomplished trophy hunter, but I have no idea where his standards on mule deer normaly stand. from what I've seen, there pretty high!:lol:
dave_fras
11-23-2006, 09:30 PM
well sorry for what i said..... he is a true pig!
browningboy
11-23-2006, 10:04 PM
Nice deer, but whats with the blogged faces?
Nice deer, but whats with the blogged faces?
I didn't want anyone to Recognise me......:lol:
:rolleyes:
This buck came out of region 7B.
So now i have to ask??? Was this buck shot on private land??
Thats a new provincial record 2 years in a row from up there, if that score holds up!
boonerbuck
11-23-2006, 11:35 PM
Apparently he and his hunting buddy spotted this buck on the first day of their week long hunt. It was 800 yrds away and quickly moved into the bush. They spent the rest of the trip passing up all other shooting opportunities, trying to find this guy again. They finally found him on the afternoon of the last day of the hunt.
This buck came out of region 7B.
From what I've heard the shooter is a very accomplished trophy hunter, but I have no idea where his standards on mule deer normaly stand. from what I've seen, there pretty high!:lol:
That possibly is the deer I've been hearing about.
This buck came out of region 7B.
So now i have to ask??? Was this buck shot on private land??
I don't know. But speaking from my expereince....if your doing any serious deer hunting in 7b, its more than likely some private land is involved.
willyqbc
11-24-2006, 09:16 AM
by the looks of the pics it could easily be in the river breaks...maybe private land to access it though.
Chris
Elkhound
11-24-2006, 10:49 AM
I didn't want anyone to Recognise me......:lol:
:rolleyes:
LMAO........beat me too it.:lol:
Elkhound
11-24-2006, 11:35 AM
Please tell me Dana shot Mass n Trash and is not posting cause he is waiting for the story and pic to be published in a mag....please oh please
bayou
11-24-2006, 11:52 AM
on the american site monster muleys it says he wounded mass an trash and they ended up not getting any thing, he also posted these pictures there unless it is someone else.
MassNtrash is still roaming the hills. A short story of our misadventure was posted on MM.
todbartell
11-24-2006, 12:51 PM
roaming the hills in the stomachs of coyotes maybe :(
bad break, hopefully you can continue to hunt his gene pool for many years to come
Elkhound
11-24-2006, 01:20 PM
read the story...........sorry to hear Dana
I'm confident that I'll be seeing my old friend once again.
mainland hunter
11-24-2006, 03:24 PM
ive seen some huge bucks in 7b on public land, problem is im always hunting elk or moose there and deer aint open. but from my exp. dont have to hunt private land there for big bucks unless it changes in november
ive seen some huge bucks in 7b on public land, problem is im always hunting elk or moose there and deer aint open. but from my exp. dont have to hunt private land there for big bucks unless it changes in november
everyone has seen huge bucks while moose and elk hunting! It does change in november, they all move into farmland to winter. Well alot do, ya dont see the deer on crown, like ya do in the early season!
mainland hunter
11-24-2006, 06:32 PM
good to know. i was thinking of heading up there one year for deer but with no private land connection is it not worth the drive?
I disagree with that. Seen a whack on Crown one year when I was working up there in Feb. Sure the fields might be full, but so is the crown.
willyqbc
11-24-2006, 07:06 PM
I'm confident that I'll be seeing my old friend once again.
Maybe I've missed it if you've posted it allready but do you have a pic of the beast you could post up? We've seen the big typical...now lets see the big non-typical!!:D
Chris
BCrams
11-25-2006, 09:47 AM
I can't wait for the score !!
After careful scrutiny of the photograph ..... he won't net as high as everyone will believe. I am going to go with a final score of 198-202 and no more. The kicker keeps it from contention but it is a great buck regardless and congrats to the hunter who took the buck !!
Stone Sheep Steve
11-25-2006, 08:28 PM
I can't wait for the score !!
After careful scrutiny of the photograph ..... he won't net as high as everyone will believe. I am going to go with a final score of 198-202 and no more. The kicker keeps it from contention but it is a great buck regardless and congrats to the hunter who took the buck !!
You already talked to Berreth, didn't you??!!:lol:
SSS
I can't wait for the score !!
After careful scrutiny of the photograph ..... he won't net as high as everyone will believe. I am going to go with a final score of 198-202 and no more. The kicker keeps it from contention but it is a great buck regardless and congrats to the hunter who took the buck !!
I notice that this post is a day AFTER the buck was officially scored by Berreth. But I'm not one to start accusing someone of calling Berreth for the score and then trying to look impressive by "guessing" the score after "careful scutiny" of the picture:wink: .
Of course, if the net score came in at exactly 200...your "guess" would look awfully suspicious...don't you think:| ?
BCrams
11-27-2006, 05:06 PM
Tank :mrgreen:
You're too analytical. But all things considered - comparing the antlers from last years buck to the ones you posted --- it was clear it wasn't going to beat it! But someone (not Berreth) tipped me off on the score!
Do I win a prize ?
sooo, is that it then, a 200, is anyone going to speak up here??? That buck does look alot bigger in the pics! Sure be nice to know the gross score!
sooo, is that it then, a 200, is anyone going to speak up here??? That buck does look alot bigger in the pics! Sure be nice to know the gross score!
grossed 214
Ok , do i have to ask, exactly what did it net?????????
Ok , do i have to ask, exactly what did it net?????????
Net 200........had only 3" deductions between the main frame. If it wasn't for that big drop tine and the inch long kicker on his left side, he would have netted 211
I was thinkin the orginal score seemed rather high but you never can tell with pics. A 200 inch net buck is still a whopper for BC.
should still be in the top 10 i think, definatley the buck of a lifetime!
willyqbc
11-27-2006, 10:44 PM
I talked to Berreth on Sunday and he couldn't figure out how they had gotten off track on the gross by almost 10" as it was a very basic rack...nothing complicated. Best guess was they used the outside spread instead of the inside which would account for 6", not sure where the other inches were coming from though. As stated above 214 gross and a shade over 200 net...very symmetrical rack, one main beam was 2" shorter than the other, other than that there was only an inch difference in the main frame...the mass measurements came out with zero deductions! It was 26" inside, main beams of 26" and 24".....g2's were 21" if I recall...bases were 5 3/4 but the upper mass measurements were 6" or better...umm I think that's all i remember! Not quite what it was first thought but still a monster!
Chris
I talked to Berreth on Sunday and he couldn't figure out how they had gotten off track on the gross by almost 10" as it was a very basic rack...nothing complicated. Best guess was they used the outside spread instead of the inside which would account for 6", not sure where the other inches were coming from though. As stated above 214 gross and a shade over 200 net...very symmetrical rack, one main beam was 2" shorter than the other, other than that there was only an inch difference in the main frame...the mass measurements came out with zero deductions! It was 26" inside, main beams of 26" and 24".....g2's were 21" if I recall...bases were 5 3/4 but the upper mass measurements were 6" or better...umm I think that's all i remember! Not quite what it was first thought but still a monster!
Chris
Exactly. i happened to be there at the scoring the guys said themselves thats where they screwed up...used outside width and came up with the original thought score. i tell ya, that rack was impressive to see in real life!!
Very common mistake with guys that haven't had a lot of experience scoring.
Stone Sheep Steve
11-28-2006, 05:59 AM
Very common mistake with guys that haven't had a lot of experience scoring.
More likely a common mistake by guys WHO THINK they know what they're doing. Guys without experience could have come closer printing off a score sheet of the net and follow the directions:rolleyes: . But at least we had some great anticipation for a few days.
Beauty buck regardless!!
All the top typical bucks have had some kind of short coming on the score sheet. The Soda creek buck had the extra kicker off a G-2. The peace buck from last year had one G2 that was a lot shorter than the other. Max's buck had some pretty weak G2s as well, although he had good symmetry. Let's hope this winter eases off a bit and next year we may see another contender!!
SSS
.308win
11-28-2006, 04:31 PM
Awesome buck...Congrats!!
Nails
11-30-2006, 02:01 AM
That will be a great looking mount, he's a beauty
Super trophy! Someone mentioned about a 211 net mainframe! Huge!
Was that 214 gross including the dropper? Maybe thats where the original 220+ gross came from. How long is the dropper?
Net 200........had only 3" deductions between the main frame. If it wasn't for that big drop tine and the inch long kicker on his left side, he would have netted 211
So is that drop tine 10" long? Wouldn't that make it 225 total gross score?
So is that drop tine 10" long? Wouldn't that make it 225 total gross score?
grossed 214 with the drop. Minus the 10 inches for the drop tine, and another 4 inches for other deductions and the final left was 200
grossed 214 with the drop. Minus the 10 inches for the drop tine, and another 4 inches for other deductions and the final left was 200
errr.. I take it you mean the drop tine was about 5"? Cause I think you take the abnormal point lengths off the mainframe gross/net not the total gross. Otherwise it would only net around 190.:confused:
bighornbob
12-05-2006, 10:05 AM
I think he means it grossed 214 as a typical forget the drop tine (for a minite). It grosses 214 and then you minus the side to side deductions which is 4 inches. This gives you a net-typical frame of 210. Now the drop tine comes into play, you have to minus its length from the net-typical frame so 210-10= 200
BHB
Ahh.. so maybe it does "gross" 225, I'm just learning but it seems the most commonly used gross. Er, but when they scored it they couldn't figure where the original 220 came from? They'll be happy to know they just forgot to add the cheaters to the mainframe gross. Wow that's alot of bone!
225 -gross
214 -gross mainframe
211-net mainframe(3"of difference)
10"+1" in cheaters
200 net
Ris,
For a guy from MM land it sure makes me wonder why you care so much.
NEEHAMA
12-06-2006, 11:12 AM
but how did he taste?
Heya Dana,
Yes , I have taken an interest in this buck, mainly to help me learn to judge racks better. I figured If I got a better idea on the numbers, I could use the buck as basis for future reference. I realize I underjudged it quite a bit when I first looked at it and took some flack for it. That's ok. This buck could go in the top 200 ever killed when it's official! But I can't seem to get a consensus on the numbers other than a "gross" and net. Can you help me out and fill in the numbers?
Total gross----
Gross mainframe----
Deductions on mainframe----
Net mainframe----
Abnormal points----
Final net----
bighornbob
12-06-2006, 02:38 PM
The numbers have already been posted. First off there is no such thing as a total gross. Abnormal points were 10+1 inches from what I read here. There were 4 inches in side to side deductions. If it nets 200 even the gross main frame is 215. 215 gross minus the side to sides= 211 minus the 11 inches in cheaters equals 200.
I would not worry so much about trying to judge a 215 class deer as most of us will never see a live 190 class. Learn what it takes to make a 170 class. Once you have that mastered just start doing the math. A 180 is just a inch on every point or some mass. Just remember the width measurement is only measured once while mass and point lengths are measured numerous times.
BHB
tufferthandug
12-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Learn what it takes to make a 170 class. Once you have that mastered just start doing the math. A 180 is just a inch on every point or some mass. Just remember the width measurement is only measured once while mass and point lengths are measured numerous times.
That's a good point. Learn to recognize the 170-175 antler hump over the 160s and you're laughing. 180 and 190 bucks usually look pretty similar. The handful of 200's I've seen are definitely in a class of their own.
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