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Trophyslayer
01-07-2012, 02:11 PM
I wanna know what everyones opinion on this tail is and its not just the tip it is a whole tail so what bc deer is this off of?
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n565/jordankrause/photo.jpg

fisher
01-07-2012, 02:13 PM
it aint no mulie .so i say whitetail

Ddog
01-07-2012, 02:16 PM
we all know it isn't a mulie, and just from the remaining piece of tail it can either be a Blacktail or a Whitetail as i have tails from both that look like that but i am leaning towards Blacktail

elkdom
01-07-2012, 02:18 PM
to the best of my recollection ?,,,,,,,,,,,,,

about only place I ever saw one like that was on a "Surrey Girl" about 20 years ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:oops:

Brett
01-07-2012, 02:21 PM
never seen black on a whitey

Darksith
01-07-2012, 02:24 PM
we all know it isn't a mulie, and just from the remaining piece of tail it can either be a Blacktail or a Whitetail as i have tails from both that look like that but i am leaning towards Blacktail
why would you assume its not a mulie...its definately not a white tailed deer, and just because the black runs up the tail doesn't mean it couldnt be a mulie. either a mulie or a blacktail most likely.

Will the answer be told after the poll gets some hits?

huntcoop
01-07-2012, 02:26 PM
to the best of my recollection ?,,,,,,,,,,,,,

about only place I ever saw one like that was on a "Surrey Girl" about 20 years ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:oops:

oooooo, that's one dirty muffler! I hope you never....

elkdom
01-07-2012, 02:28 PM
never seen black on a whitey

I will post pics of WT deer with black tip/partial tail in HBC gallery at this minute ! observe ! the black tip on the WT doe ! lol

Carnivore King
01-07-2012, 02:30 PM
It's from the hybrid in your avatar picture?

Darksith
01-07-2012, 02:55 PM
I will post pics of WT deer with black tip/partial tail in HBC gallery at this minute ! observe ! the black tip on the WT doe ! lol
black tip on a whitey is most likely a hybrid then

elkdom
01-07-2012, 02:58 PM
black tip on a whitey is most likely a hybrid then

then there are dozens of hybrid WT deer in this area ! lol

SimilkameenSlayer
01-07-2012, 03:00 PM
looks like a mulie tail to me.

fisher
01-07-2012, 03:05 PM
looks like a mulie tail to me.

no way thats a mulie

Darksith
01-07-2012, 03:07 PM
it could be a trait passed on from a cross a long time ago...would all depend on what the dominant gene would be. Then again Im no expert on anything was just throwing it out there is all, didnt mean for it to sound like fact, but I think it might have come across that way, either way Im interested to know the answer.

moose2
01-07-2012, 03:09 PM
It looks like a BT but I am guessing if it was it wouldn't be posted on here. So I will say mule deer or maybe mule/whitetail hybrid I have seen a few like this in the peace on mulies. So I am ruling out BT's. Heres a picture from google to look at

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dspYJaMUobU/TSpG7oTP45I/AAAAAAAABAk/YQzVNCYo1jw/s1600/IMG_0947%2Bcopy.JPG
The caption said mule/whitetail hybrid doe
Mike

elkdom
01-07-2012, 03:11 PM
it could be a trait passed on from a cross a long time ago...would all depend on what the dominant gene would be. Then again Im no expert on anything was just throwing it out there is all, didnt mean for it to sound like fact, but I think it might have come across that way, either way Im interested to know the answer.

well I just posted in HBC Photo gallery minutes ago, one of many pics of WT's with partial "black tails" I have taken locally,
have a look, What do you think ? what's your opinion on that doe ?,,,,,,,,later

weed782
01-07-2012, 03:16 PM
Blacktail living near mulies. Looks like some mulie genes in there, but blacktail it is

gutpile
01-07-2012, 03:17 PM
to the best of my recollection ?,,,,,,,,,,,,,

about only place I ever saw one like that was on a "Surrey Girl" about 20 years ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:oops:

are you sure it was a girl ? :)

elkdom
01-07-2012, 03:21 PM
are you sure it was a girl ? :)

absolutely, she had 2 large very hairy breasts :cry:

SimilkameenSlayer
01-07-2012, 03:27 PM
it aint no mulie .so i say whitetail

looks like mulie to me .... jeff


http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb69/Goldboy_bucket/PA080246-1.jpg

fisher
01-07-2012, 03:30 PM
looks like mulie to me .... jeff


http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb69/Goldboy_bucket/PA080246-1.jpg

mule tails arent that long ,arent that hairy.and arent that bushy

SimilkameenSlayer
01-07-2012, 03:34 PM
true, but i don't see long and bushy, i see scraggly and average mulie size.

could be wrong thou.

Trophyslayer
01-07-2012, 03:45 PM
Mule deer http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n565/jordankrause/mule-deer.jpg

fisher
01-07-2012, 03:51 PM
Mule deer http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n565/jordankrause/mule-deer.jpg

see ,that tail in this pic looks nothing like the posted pic ..not even close

fisher
01-07-2012, 03:52 PM
trophy slayer .when do you plan on letting us no the species ..how about now

Trophyslayer
01-07-2012, 03:54 PM
i wanna see some more opinions

sobirch
01-07-2012, 04:10 PM
Of course its mulie white tale, see em in my yard all the time

OutWest
01-07-2012, 05:32 PM
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n565/jordankrause/photo.jpg


mule tails arent that long ,arent that hairy.and arent that bushy


Mule deer http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n565/jordankrause/mule-deer.jpg

You sure about that Jeffrey?

EastKootenay
01-07-2012, 05:36 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJbGpQoM3By4HZva4DFmVK1i-OgtcS_lstrHAz_AQee_nn-Fik_w

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTD72TDPxhySAs_15isUd-0fXwz5ZbMcc2FW6f-Z1xAtsC7AeNh

Blacktail

fisher
01-07-2012, 05:36 PM
nothings forsure on the internet

SimilkameenSlayer
01-07-2012, 05:38 PM
what make me think it's a mulie, is the shape of the tail, wt are the other away around with a point to the bottom of the tail narrow at the "top" base is.

but who knows with these mutant ninja deer that are around .... :mrgreen:

proguide66
01-07-2012, 07:02 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJbGpQoM3By4HZva4DFmVK1i-OgtcS_lstrHAz_AQee_nn-Fik_w

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTD72TDPxhySAs_15isUd-0fXwz5ZbMcc2FW6f-Z1xAtsC7AeNh

Blacktail

Top deer has mule X
traits 'starting' to show on the top of tail and bit of insides of rump. The hybrids up here start to get more white on their hind quarter tops and sides of the upper tail.The pic on the beginning of the thread could be from a blacktail OR a hybrid as the hybrid characteristics will be on the rump and accompanied by the tail as well coat will 'start' to look lighter and less 'brown' than a typical pure blacky as well larger ears......my opinion only :-D

sherpa-Al
01-07-2012, 07:38 PM
How about a Sitka Blacktail?

SimilkameenSlayer
01-07-2012, 07:46 PM
How about a Sitka Blacktail?

maybe it's a cunning hoax ;)

redthorn
01-07-2012, 07:51 PM
Thumb shot off a Sasquatch for sure.

tracker
01-07-2012, 08:32 PM
Give my muley her tail back !!!!
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z78/tracker_07/hunting2010037.jpg

Ltbullken
01-07-2012, 08:45 PM
Nothing fancy... just a blacktail deer tail.

rudysteelhead
01-07-2012, 08:55 PM
no black on WT. Fallow/blacktail/mulie/whitetail quadbrid

Jim Prawn
01-07-2012, 08:55 PM
I'm all in for blacktail.
JP.

porcupine
01-07-2012, 09:40 PM
Sure looks like a Fallow Deer tail.

hunter1947
01-08-2012, 02:47 AM
My vote is that of a WT deer.

jeff
01-08-2012, 06:13 PM
trophy slayer ,,how about the answer on this piece of tail ....im still saying whitetail

finngun
01-08-2012, 09:59 PM
But maybe he don't know the answer.....
maybe he find that funny tale??:-D shed tail...hmm..shot little too far back
somewhere deer running---no tail....:mrgreen:

The Dude
01-08-2012, 10:04 PM
My question is: Why would you post a chunk of tail for discussion with no background story? It's obviously NOT the whole tail, as you can see a large chunk of bone sticking out, and there's no scale. So what's the point?

Jelvis
01-08-2012, 10:06 PM
That's an ugly greasy looking piece of tail, it ain't no good.
Jp ..

Trophyslayer
01-08-2012, 10:15 PM
the tail is off the buck i shot this year heres the link http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?74676-Big-Fraser-valley-buck&highlight=fraser+valley+buck and he is a hybrid between mule and blacktail

SimilkameenSlayer
01-08-2012, 10:45 PM
lol ..... and i said mulie .... well i'll be .....

;)

jeff
01-08-2012, 10:48 PM
lol ..... and i said mulie .... well i'll be .....

;)

yes you did ..but it is a hybrid ..i was wrong ..

slashhunter
01-08-2012, 10:51 PM
Looks like a hybrid to me. I've hunted hybrid mulie/blacktails since i started hunting. Where was this shot?

SimilkameenSlayer
01-08-2012, 10:59 PM
yes you did ..but it is a hybrid ..i was wrong ..

still looks like a mulie to me, cause i have never seen a hybrid.

u live and learn ....

jeff
01-08-2012, 11:02 PM
still looks like a mulie to me, cause i have never seen a hybrid.

u live and learn ....

absolutly ..i learn something new daily..theres so many people in this world who think they no everthing ..i will graciously admit when im wrong ..and it happens alot ..

Tikka270
01-08-2012, 11:07 PM
I remember that thread. Everything looks mulie but the tail,body looks much larger than the blacktails I've hunted in the valley.

finngun
01-09-2012, 12:40 AM
and ---i will graciously admit when im right....wah... jus pure luck my guess was OK...never seen a hybrid ,:mrgreen: never shot WT yet--- i will hopefully this year..

91Jason91
01-09-2012, 01:14 AM
so what is it?

Tikka270
01-09-2012, 01:21 AM
so what is it?

Blacktail/mulie hybrid.

hunter1947
01-09-2012, 03:25 AM
Anyone on this thread that said WT tail like I said.
To me it looks like a whitetail tail if you ever look at a live WT out there in the woods and the tail is down it looks just like the picture of this hybrid on this thread ,you look at a mule tail and the upper top of the tail is white all the way around and the bottom tip part is brown.

So don't be ashamed about this if your vote was that of a WT deer like my vote was..

Look at that doe this WT doe has her summer coat on as well the doe on your left the tail is down and it is brown all the way down from the top to the bottom just like the picture on this thread this MD hybrid tail is wet in the picture as well that makes the tail look darker when you look at a deer to shoot you identify it by the rest of the body not just the tail....

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/1518_1_.jpghttp://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n565/jordankrause/photo.jpg

SimilkameenSlayer
01-09-2012, 07:54 AM
wt tails are wider at the base, generally speaking, as indicated in the above.

SimilkameenSlayer
01-09-2012, 08:23 AM
like this ....

http://www.coueswhitetail.com/coues_biology/metatarsal%20gland.jpg

CanuckShooter
01-09-2012, 09:16 AM
like this ....

http://www.coueswhitetail.com/coues_biology/metatarsal%20gland.jpg


I have been seeing what I considered to be hybrid mulie/wt does in 7-11. They have the exact same colouring as a mule deer, with the same type tail as shown by the OP of this thread....about the only difference was that they have ears that are only about two thirds the size of a regular mulie doe. This last season I saw one that had a fawn with it?? I always thought that hybrids were sterile?? We always thought WTs were more of a browny colour like in 47s pics [we never had many around here before]

finngun
01-09-2012, 10:15 AM
:confused:then comes the legality question----what will happen when hybrid is down,and shooter dosn't even know what tag to cut? call C O ?

CanuckShooter
01-09-2012, 10:53 AM
:confused:then comes the legality question----what will happen when hybrid is down,and shooter dosn't even know what tag to cut? call C O ?

Just phone your buddy with the status card, end of problem.

SimilkameenSlayer
01-09-2012, 12:38 PM
I have been seeing what I considered to be hybrid mulie/wt does in 7-11. They have the exact same colouring as a mule deer, with the same type tail as shown by the OP of this thread....about the only difference was that they have ears that are only about two thirds the size of a regular mulie doe. This last season I saw one that had a fawn with it?? I always thought that hybrids were sterile?? We always thought WTs were more of a browny colour like in 47s pics [we never had many around here before]

interesting

expect more and more ....

huntcoop
01-09-2012, 03:11 PM
Just phone your buddy with the status card, end of problem.

Nice.....:roll:

redthorn
01-09-2012, 08:19 PM
:confused:then comes the legality question----what will happen when hybrid is down,and shooter dosn't even know what tag to cut? call C O ?

Being that it is probably a hybrid between a Blacktail and Muley, and that both fall under the "Mule Deer" tag, I think the choice is pretty clear.

BillyBull
01-10-2012, 06:46 PM
It looked like a whitetail with a blackish add in so I'll go whitetail hybrid.

SimilkameenSlayer
01-10-2012, 06:47 PM
It looked like a whitetail with a blackish add in so I'll go whitetail hybrid.

are you sure ?