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vortex hunter
11-07-2011, 04:43 PM
Just wanting to find out from other's on here WHATS the Biggest Game you took down with your 45-70 and with what Ammo did you choose and pictures would be GREAT as hunting Pictures are the BEST to look at...Vortex:mrgreen:

lip_ripper00
11-07-2011, 04:50 PM
Sorry no pictures, I have taken a bull moose and a black bear 350gr Hornady FP 56gr IMR3031

huntcoop
11-07-2011, 04:55 PM
My buddy shot a grouse then sold the rifle.

vortex hunter
11-07-2011, 05:01 PM
My buddy shot a grouse then sold the rifle.

Thats crazy what happend to the bird lol

moosinaround
11-07-2011, 05:12 PM
My buddy shot a grouse then sold the rifle.
Too much meat damage?? Moosin

Mr. Dean
11-07-2011, 05:26 PM
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/P1010158_edited-2.JPG

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/P1010156_edited-3.JPG


:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

vortex hunter
11-07-2011, 05:30 PM
WOW Nice bear MR.Dean ......Nice Pictures

Mr. Dean
11-07-2011, 06:28 PM
WOW Nice bear MR.Dean ......Nice Pictures

Thanks.

I shot him with one of my hand-loads which consits of the following:

- Winchester case
- Winchester primer
- IMR 3031 powder
- Speer 400gr FN jacketed

The load runs a bit over 2000fps and was developed for accuracy. That bear above, was hit from a range of 65 yds and pretty much dropped where he fed, with the exception of falling down into the ditch (:twisted: baztard :twisted:). The bullet retained almost all of it's weight (-7 grs.) and is pictured below.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/DSC_0002_edited-21.JPG

vortex hunter
11-07-2011, 06:52 PM
Thanks.

I shot him with one of my hand-loads which consits of the following:

- Winchester case
- Winchester primer
- IMR 3031 powder
- Speer 400gr FN jacketed

The load runs a bit over 2000fps and was developed for accuracy. That bear above, was hit from a range of 65 yds and pretty much dropped where he fed, with the exception of falling down into the ditch (:twisted: baztard :twisted:). The bullet retained almost all of it's weight (-7 grs.) and is pictured below.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/DSC_0002_edited-21.JPG

THATS CRAZY had a bear go up and over logs and died between rocks and a log pile was hell trying toget him up aqnd over everthing........ that looks like a nice round how many grains of powder do you use ? PM me if I can use your data lol

lnelson
11-07-2011, 07:15 PM
Nothing, but hoping to change that before the seasons end.

Mr. Dean
11-07-2011, 07:18 PM
THATS CRAZY had a bear go up and over logs and died between rocks and a log pile was hell trying toget him up aqnd over everthing........ that looks like a nice round how many grains of powder do you use ? PM me if I can use your data lol

It was a DEEP ditch,,,,,,,, but I was able to winch 'em out w/ the Jeep. :lol:


As for the load.... It's my own developement and exceeds book maximums; I won't suggest another to go ahead with it.
What I will do is find the book load, post it, and you can take it from there. :smile:

LYKTOHUNT
11-07-2011, 07:31 PM
Moose with hornady 350 rn handloads

REMINGTON JIM
11-07-2011, 07:43 PM
5 Point whitetail - 1 shot in the neck at 60 yds - dropped in his tracks- horn 325 leveroultion ammo- bullet weighted amost 225 grs - shed 100 grs but near perfect mushroom- cheers Jim

vortex hunter
11-07-2011, 07:44 PM
Nothing, but hoping to change that before the seasons end.

Yeah same here lol

huntcoop
11-07-2011, 07:52 PM
Thats crazy what happend to the bird lol

Not sure, couldn't find it :shock:, I think it vaporized :lol: .

vortex hunter
11-07-2011, 07:56 PM
Not sure, couldn't find it :shock:, I think it vaporized :lol: .

LOL LOL Crazy lol

BromBones
11-07-2011, 09:18 PM
Hmmm...

Moose, elk, grizzly, and quite a few deer and black bears. Used mostly the 400 grain Speer FN, and 350 A-Frame, as well as some Garrett Hammerhead stuff.

pappy
11-07-2011, 09:43 PM
I've only shot water jugs with mine so far, hope that will change soon. I got enough grouse in the freezer so I didn't shoot at them today with the marlin, it was very tempting though.

uraarchr
11-07-2011, 10:26 PM
4X5 Muley with a 300gr Barnes TSX(hollowpoint) that was recovered.perfect mushroom.I love packin the Guide Gun around.Sure hope to get something bigger someday!

vortex hunter
11-07-2011, 10:53 PM
4X5 Muley with a 300gr Barnes TSX(hollowpoint) that was recovered.perfect mushroom.I love packin the Guide Gun around.Sure hope to get something bigger someday!

I was looking at those Today wonder if you can by them already to go or you need to handload them ?

greenhorn
11-07-2011, 10:57 PM
Don't own one and never shot at game with one. Tried one out at the Victoria Fish and Game range a few years ago and it was cool. The sound it made when it crushed the 200 yard gong was killer!!

vortex hunter
11-07-2011, 11:12 PM
Yeah lookin for a buck to test mine out on lol

blindcast
11-07-2011, 11:19 PM
Had a 45/70 built on a single shot Martini action about 30 years ago. Used it on a bunch of black bear in the east. Never needed a second shot. Was pushing handloads, seems to me 450 grains but, after all this time, I could be wrong. Best blackie was a shade over 350 pounds. No pictures, sad to say.

Mr. Dean
11-07-2011, 11:32 PM
4X5 Muley with a 300gr Barnes TSX(hollowpoint) that was recovered.perfect mushroom.I love packin the Guide Gun around.Sure hope to get something bigger someday!


I was looking at those Today wonder if you can by them already to go or you need to handload them ?


Not that I'm aware of...

And a little FYI; them bullets are $$ 4x the cost $$ of what I'm loading. :shock:
Not Needed IMO unless your after Cape Buffalo, Elephant, Alaskan Browns - Things that have 1m thick bones. :lol:

vortex hunter
11-07-2011, 11:34 PM
Thanks Mr.Dean good to know

JIL_24/7
11-08-2011, 12:17 AM
Barnes does make a factory load with the VOR-TX 300 gr. bullet. I just shot it today at the range. Deadly looking bullet, and pretty accurate. I'm going hunting with it on Wednesday. My first hunt with my new Marlin 1895GBL. You can pick that ammo up at International. That's where I got it.

Mr. Dean
11-08-2011, 12:21 AM
Thanks Mr.Dean good to know

Hey, it's just one mans opinion.

Back to the load: I looked up my data and made a HORRIBLE mistake on powder type. Being a Moderator, I was able to go into both yours and my posts to make the needed corrections. It's in fact IMR 3031 and NOT 4831 - My Bad. :redface:

I used the manual of "Modern Reloading" to base my initial tests from. They show a max load for a 405gr jacketed bullet, to be 51.5grs of IMR 3031. They also show a CUP of 27,000 and velocity is stated @ 1795 fps.

I down-sized the bullet weight by 5 grains for my load and added to the powder charge incrementally as I found the load to 'string'. I caution the people that get into experimenting with loads - You really need a grasp of what your doing and because it works in mine, doesn't mean it'll work in yours and I'll leave that part of the experiment with you.

Cheers.

Mr. Dean
11-08-2011, 12:23 AM
Barnes does make a factory load with the VOR-TX 300 gr. bullet. I just shot it today at the range. Deadly looking bullet, and pretty accurate. I'm going hunting with it on Wednesday. My first hunt with my new Marlin 1895GBL. You can pick that ammo up at International. That's where I got it.

That's actually kinda kewl!

Who's brass and how much?

LeverActionJunkie
11-08-2011, 12:30 AM
That's actually kinda kewl!

Who's brass and how much?


I believe it will be Remington brass, as they purchased Barnes, but it might be "Barnes" brass made by Remington :) Not sure though.

I've only shot deer and a coyote or two with mine. I load either 400gr Speers or 405gr RemSP's over 3031 in Win Brass with CCI Primers. Used to load it hot but not even close anymore. I'm almost tempted to try some Trapdoor loads cause I really wanna recover a bullet, they always sail off into the wilderness after punching clean holes.
Great cartridge, fun to load with all types of loads, and always deadly.

Rock Doctor
11-08-2011, 07:44 AM
I've taken a couple Bison with my 45/70 Trapper
Looking for a couple pix.

RD

vortex hunter
11-08-2011, 06:04 PM
I like all the good info from all of your responses Thanks...

Mr. Dean
11-08-2011, 06:24 PM
I anxiously awaits for the Doctors' pics.

vortex hunter
11-08-2011, 07:18 PM
Yeah me tooo IM FREAKINN OUT MANNNN LOL LOL I need to go hunting this week someone take meeee please lol

vortex hunter
11-08-2011, 07:20 PM
Barnes does make a factory load with the VOR-TX 300 gr. bullet. I just shot it today at the range. Deadly looking bullet, and pretty accurate. I'm going hunting with it on Wednesday. My first hunt with my new Marlin 1895GBL. You can pick that ammo up at International. That's where I got it.

What did you pay for a box of twenty rounds if you dont mind me askin

pappy
11-08-2011, 07:56 PM
I would like to try the barnes vor-tx and the winchester partition golds to see what they perform like. I haven't found any yet but I haven't been looking very hard, I have bought some of the fusion 300 grain ammo but need to shoot it still.

vortex hunter
11-08-2011, 07:59 PM
Yeah the only Rounds I have are the Lever Revolution 325-gr Hornady

rec
11-08-2011, 08:52 PM
got a LEH caw moose a few years back 405 cast bullets with 65 gr FF black powder 80 yrds trough the neck Remington falling block with peek sights sorry no pics cheers

JIL_24/7
11-08-2011, 09:09 PM
The box was something like $59. Very pricey. I just got the rifle, but I will try to start loading for next year so I won't have to pay that anymore.

vortex hunter
11-08-2011, 09:17 PM
The box was something like $59. Very pricey. I just got the rifle, but I will try to start loading for next year so I won't have to pay that anymore.

Thanks for the response my Hornadys cost $38 after tax

henderson
11-08-2011, 09:27 PM
Hey vortex, cant PM you ur box is full.

vortex hunter
11-08-2011, 09:32 PM
Hey vortex, cant PM you ur box is full.


Cleaned out my message box budd

vortex hunter
11-09-2011, 11:27 AM
What NO Pictures BOYZ only MR.Deans PIC .....

uraarchr
11-09-2011, 09:37 PM
The Barnes TSX 300gr was a handload.Theyre pricey but they look nasty!

vortex hunter
11-09-2011, 10:29 PM
Yeah I want to start reloading this year...

uraarchr
11-13-2011, 12:06 AM
Just took a Muley today with the 45-70 and 300 gr Barnes TSX.He took a few steps back and collapsed.25 yrd shot

CNE
11-13-2011, 01:37 PM
I absolutley LOVE shooting my 45-70. Killed a few blackies with it and a grizz at 20 yds a few years ago. Hit him in the boiler, he stood up, spun on his back feet and was dead before his front feet hit the ground.

IronNoggin
11-13-2011, 01:56 PM
One of these:

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/running-of-the-bulls-musk-ox-style-tim-grams.jpg

This one in fact:

http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Ironnoggin/Muskok_1.sized.jpg

http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Ironnoggin/Muskok_2.sized.jpg

With this rifle:

http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Ironnoggin/Springfield_1.jpg

My Model 1873 Trap Door Springfield in 45-70.

Went up to visit Buddies on Banks Island, NWT and since I had recently acquired the ol' smokepole, I was itching to shoot something around the size of a buffalo with it. Muskox were as close as we got up there, so...
Spent a few days looking, then wandered into this fellow with but a single buddy. Belly-crawled through the snow to about 85 yards, lined him up, and let one fly. 300 grain Federal Hi-Shok caught him just behind the shoulder, and he did a complete somersault, landed on his back - no wiggle! Impressive!

So impressive my Inuit Buddy HAD to try it out on a bear a few days later. Front quartering shot to the chest with pretty much the same result. Nose plant - no wiggle. He very much wanted the rifle after that, but I declined! Still shoot it occasionally, but it surely isn't suited to wandering around in the field with!

Cheers,
Nog