"On the hook"

[Fisher-Dude]

It's always interesting to see what hunters say their animals weighed "on the hook" at their butcher's place.

Recently, there was a thread on here where a basket whitetail buck apparently weighed 178 lbs on the hook. Basket whitetail weigh 85 to 100 lbs on the hook. My 162" monster weighed 145 lbs on the hook, and he was fat and in good shape, and 5 or 6 years old.

Lots of other threads seem to hold similarly overweight animals. Just a word of advice: don't let your butcher retire early. You may want to do a bit of weighing yourself before you get ripped off.

[jeff]

this year , my daughters 4 point mulie was 106 lbs ,my 2 point mulie was 90 lbs ,and this weekends 4 point mulie was 136lbs

[shaydog65]

Funny. I was just looking at game hooks scales. Seem like a good investment at $20 - $30 bucks, and some fun can be made at camp with guess-ti-mating before hand.

[coach]

I've thought the same thing many times, FD. All the more reason to butcher your own - if you can. Depending on the meat cutter, apparently some now charge "per deer". All the ones I've dealt with charge by the pound as the animals weighs when you drop it off. All the more reason to trim as much fat as you can, remove blood shot, etc. Unless, of course, you take pride in paying more.

[jeff]

im thinking its more the hunter exagerating than the butcher over weighing

[eastkoot]

I think if you have a good relationship with "your butcher" and give him the yearly/constant business with nice clean meat your not going to get "hooked". On the other hand, take a dirty critter into a "not local" guy, and your going to get a bit of extra weight. Just my experience from guys up north that know you gotta get it hung and cooled or cut and wrapped before getting it home..

[hunter1993ap]

my dad used to be a butcher and the biggest mule deer he weighed on his scale from a customer was 199 pounds no head no hide or feet or guts. the biggest mule deer he shot was 236 no head no hide. i've shot a few mule deer in the 180 to 190 pounds which are very large deer. also the biggest whitetail we weighed was 160 pounds and this deer scored 155. this was a deer we shot. most whitetail he got weighed between 100 to 130 pounds.

[835]

Aint it just like fishing though?
Arent things supposed to be a lil bit bigger then they really were?

[lilhoss]

For my own curiosity...
This deer was 122 lbs on "my hook".No stomach,intestines,or liver.Heart,lungs & trachea still in.
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/Nice_buck-Oct-2011_ross_n_Dad_013.jpg


"my hook"
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/cooler_pictures_001.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:;)

Neck shot ,so no waste at all.I deboned it myself and weighed out everything,ended up at only 30 lbs of meat.
Just for "science" & the HBC crew,I weighed the bone bucket on "my hook",and with all the trimmings,bone,hide,legs,& head came in at 84 lbs.This was after 8 days of hanging in the cooler.

[BigfishCanada]

The largest deer I have ever seen, was one I shot :) It weighed on the hook 245pounds at weigh mouth meats in Abby (Larry said in his entire life he hadnt had a deer like that, the next two deer which we hung right after were 4 points weighed 97 and 106.

The deer I shot was the size of an elk, AND its hanging on my wall downstairs, I have never seen prior or after a deer even close to him. I at the time had a 400 grizzly and it couldnt pull the deer up the pole. Had to use my friends polaris 800. Inside to inside of the beams was just under 28" and 7 " diameter in the base.

Just because you haven't been lucky enough not to have shot or seen a large bodied giant mule deer, doesn't mean that they don't exist.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=237&d=1132183911

[835]

Lilhoss,
thats a heck of a curiosity getter.

[cdnshooter13]

Sounds like there's some crappy butchers out there. I always help my butcher hang my game and if there's anything I missed trimming wise he always takes it off before he weighs it and marks it. Haven't been surprised yet.

[SimilkameenSlayer]

my two point was a 115 pounds on the hook.

[greybark]

Hey F-D , most of my mature WT bucks (Rock Creek) dressed out and on the hook averaged around 60-75 lbs a side .
Cheers

[Dannybuoy]

Lilhoss,
thats a heck of a curiosity getter.

X-2 on that ... 30 lbs meat with 84 lbs wastage ?? , Yikes ! Is that the way it is with those black-tails ? I'll stick to whities and mulies !
Also I'll add the biggest mulie on the hook for me has been 90 -95 a side (big 4 pt ) and a 6x6 white tail dressed at 75 a side

[Slinky Pickle]

This year I bought a small, digital crane scale and used it to weigh the deer and moose I hunted. The whole idea of buying it was to end the BS.

My first mulie this year was the biggest deer I've ever shot. As I mentioned in my earlier post http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?72414-My-first-Mulie-of-2011 it weighed 197 lbs gutted with head and hide on. After removing the head and hide it was 156 lbs. The numbers from my butcher confirmed the accuracy of my scale.

My second deer of the year was a small 2 point mulie that weighed 78 lbs gutted with head and hide off. I didn't get a chance to weigh it with the head and hide on. The difference in weight between the two deer was amazing.

My moose came in at 570 lbs with head and hide off.

I give these numbers for the reference of others. Whether you believe them or not is entirely up to you... and not really my concern.

[moosinaround]

Hmm, I have been using the same butcher for nearly 15 years. His scale is pretty accurate, and I have never doubted his weights what so ever! His livelyhood depends on his customers being happy, which I am! My whitie last year was 127lbs on the hook. That is skinned, ready to process. Most small mulies I have had cut, have been 80- 120 lbs around the PG. I take them to him ready to process, and CLEAN!!! I have found that most hunters have to have their weights and measurements corrected, I call it the "10% bull$hit factor" No matter how much the hunter is honest, the 10% Bull$hit factor applies!! Moosin

[Spuddge]

This one dressed out at 143 Lbs. (no hide, head, legs, or guts). My biggest ever, all my other deer have been around 90 Lbs.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/IMGA0036.JPG

[Buck]

My Mulie was 215 on the hook no hide, head guts or leg below the knee.I saw the scale myself that buck was huge

[jeff]

my largest was a blacktail, 184lbs , taken from a buddys farm in pemberton

[Cyrus]

my largest was a blacktail, 184lbs , taken from a buddys farm in pemberton

Proximity to a good alfalfa or grain farm will definitely tack on a lot of extra pounds on a deer...

[Marlin375]

I have come to the conclusion that there are 2 seperate species of whities around BC.... Big ones and Little ones. On the mountian I frequent I have shot both.
I shot a rather small but nice little basket buck a few years ago, he was a 4X4 but with triple brow tines he was actually a 7x7, pretty cool little buck with great genetics and was chasing a does around when he met his demise. Guessing I would say he was prolly 4 years old but only weighed 120 pounds on the hoof and not going to get a hell of alot bigger.
Fast forward a couple of years and one morning and quick shot later I am standing over a dark horned 5x5 that my son and I could barely drag to the truck. After weighing all the pieces (and adding 30lbs for the legs and the gut pile) this guy weighed 300lbs on the hoof.....I weighed the quarters and the head-n-hide 3 times and added it up 3 times because I could not believe it.

After that I don't doubt some of these "heavy buck storys" they come in all sizes just like your friends.

[muleychaser]

The biggest mulie I ever shot was 245 on the hook at the butcher with no head hide or legs below the knee. The buck on my avatar was 195 on the hook and that was after trimming 40 lbs of fat off of it. Shot a 2 point moose once that was 485 on the hook, and helped skin a moose my buddy got north of PG and it was 850 lbs on the hook. That one was a 62 inch bull and when he called it out it charged the truck.

[3kills]

my avatar buck was easily 200 plus pounds on the hook never put him on a scale but i had to lift that basterd up and i have lifted a lot of beef sides so i know what i m talkin about. as for waste, if u have a skinned deer hangin no hide head or legs say it weighs 100 pounds u will yield 45-50 pounds meat and get about 50-55 pounds waste. waste is about 50-55% of your hangin carcass, this is true with beef deer moose elk everything even with fish. half the weight of the animal is usually bones and what not.

[fireguy]

My biggest buck on the hook was the one in my avitar, 192 pounds, I took another 184 pounds once and to compair I took a calf moose at 179 pounds, all on the hook.

On the hook to me is skinned, no head and legs cut off at the knees.

Talked to the butcher the other day when we brought in a moose, after weighing it he mentioned that the weight was probably 20 pounds lighter as it had hung for almost a week up north before it got in to be weighed

[The Dude]

My biggest WT, head and hide on, was 181, totally cleaned of guts etc. He scored 140-ish, and was a big deer. Never weighed any of my Mulies, as we always part them out ourselves now.

[Brian011]

The buck I shot this year which was my biggest buck to date was 166lbs and the buck my dad shot which was a younger deer than mine was 175lbs.
My grandpa used to guide around region 5 way back and said the biggest buck that he had ever seen, which one of his hunters shot was 247 lbs on the hook, which I thought was hard to believe but I heard one butcher say that he had a deer in once that weighed 235lbs on the hook. There's definitely some huge bucks around that would weight over 200

[little moose]

my largest got us 124 lb of meat , no bones . dont know how much on the hook

[Wrayzer]

Had my 3x2 Muley last year on the hook no head, hide etc. at Illichmanns weighing in at 186lbs, named him Bubba.

[3kills]

my largest got us 124 lb of meat , no bones . dont know how much on the hook
on the hook no head or hide probably would have been bout a 200-250 pound deer.

[rocksteady]

All weights at the butcher ready to be processed, from experience:

Whitey doe 85 to 90 lbs
Whitey buck: 100 to 120
BIG whitey Buck: 140

Muley bucks: 125 to 150

Calf elk: 150
Cow elk: 300 to 325
Bull elk: 350 to 500

SHiras Moose: 2 point 275 lbs
Mature Bull SHiras: 450


This is all based on East Kootenay observations, of course there is some variance depending on animal genetics/feed, etc etc

[The Dawg]

My mulie last year was 110lbs deboned and ready for processing.

[d6dan]

My mulie last year was 110lbs deboned and ready for processing.

Wow!, my last 2pt Whitetail (inbred) was 40-45lbs boned out. My Big Whitey (peace region)I shot in 2006 weighted in at, bang on 300lbs with the guts in. This was weighted at my Bro's Meat shop.

[jeff]

Wow!, my last 2pt Whitetail (inbred) was 40-45lbs boned out. My Big Whitey (peace region)I shot in 2006 weighted in at, bang on 300lbs with the guts in. This was weighted at my Bro's Meat shop.

remember the exagerating factor

[3kills]

Wow!, my last 2pt Whitetail (inbred) was 40-45lbs boned out. My Big Whitey (peace region)I shot in 2006 weighted in at, bang on 300lbs with the guts in. This was weighted at my Bro's Meat shop.
how do u know ur white tail was inbred? LOL

[d6dan]

how do u know ur white tail was inbred? LOL
I've been hunting in Grand Forks on private land for a while now,(all my life) and the gene pool is rather poor in the whitetail. Years ago, when they first started showing up there,they were big, healthy deer,but now they are small, late fawn birth,over abundance for the feed,etc and in rather poor shape.Eating my mother's plants in her carport at night pretty much sums it up. Adult Whitetail deer are no more than 150lbs (live weight). Lots of winter kill. I guess thats why the coyotes are doing well.

[d6dan]

remember the exagerating factor
Don't believe it?. no problem.. He's a licenced facility.

[3kills]

Don't believe it?. no problem.. He's a licenced facility.

how is he makin out this year anyways?

[jeff]

Don't believe it?. no problem.. He's a licenced facility.

i wasnt referring to you ,i was referring to the 110 deboned

[d6dan]

i wasnt referring to you ,i was referring to the 110 deboned


Sorry Jeff, my mistake..I thought you were referring to my buck.. You quoted me and not Noah Dawg..

[d6dan]

how is he makin out this year anyways?

He was telling me this was the slowest year he's had since he opened back in the 90's.

[moosinaround]

remember the exagerating factor
That's the "10% Bull$hit Factor" Copyright 1993 Moosinaround Inc!

[The Dawg]

i wasnt referring to you ,i was referring to the 110 deboned

Do you ever have anything nice to say about anyone ?

There are multiple witnesses to this. It was weighed at my gf's mom's place, which is a cattle ranch and has the proper equipment.

It was also weighed at the butchers place- who also is very reputable.

It was a huge bodied grain/alfalfa fed mulie.

Dont believe it, eat me.

[jeff]

That's the "10% Bull$hit Factor" Copyright 1993 Moosinaround Inc!

ya ya thats the one

[moosinaround]

Do you ever have anything nice to say about anyone ?

There are multiple witnesses to this. It was weighed at my gf's mom's place, which is a cattle ranch and has the proper equipment.

It was also weighed at the butchers place- who also is very reputable.

It was a huge bodied grain/alfalfa fed mulie.

Dont believe it, eat me.
Dawg uses my butcher, who is pretty reputable to me and my hunting buddies! He's never given me any reason to check my weights. The butchers wife commented on Dawgs deer, thought it was 2 of them!! He was a biggy for sure! Moosin

PS, I still like to razz huntermen and fishermen about the "10% Bull$hit rule" copyright 1993 moosinaround Inc. though!!;) Moosin

[3kills]

He was telling me this was the slowest year he's had since he opened back in the 90's.

yeah i heard it was pretty slow up that way this year.I think the butcher here in town has been busy but i know i havent been killin much LOL

[jeff]

Do you ever have anything nice to say about anyone ?

There are multiple witnesses to this. It was weighed at my gf's mom's place, which is a cattle ranch and has the proper equipment.

It was also weighed at the butchers place- who also is very reputable.

It was a huge bodied grain/alfalfa fed mulie.

Dont believe it, eat me.

settle down big fella , just razzin ya .

[d6dan]

settle down big fella , just razzin ya .

Any body thats hunted both Whitetail and Mulies knows that Mulies are in fact (bigger animals). I believe Noah Dawg, because he's no bullshitter and he's moosinaround's bud :wink: and that is all we need to know heheheh....and I've had the pleasure of meeting him..Carry on.

[moosinaround]

I am in fact a culprit to my own "10% Bull$hit factor" copyright 1993 Moosinaround Inc. Take what I say and deduct or add 10%! I am not too proud to BS!! After all I do call myself a hunter and fisherman!;) Moosin

[3kills]

Do you ever have anything nice to say about anyone ?

There are multiple witnesses to this. It was weighed at my gf's mom's place, which is a cattle ranch and has the proper equipment.

It was also weighed at the butchers place- who also is very reputable.

It was a huge bodied grain/alfalfa fed mulie.

Dont believe it, eat me.

was that that fat 4 pointer u shot last year? he was a pig i can see him goin 120 boned out.

[d6dan]

News just in..My Bro just told me, he had a moose this year weighted in at #950lbs (4quarters).Go figure?:wink:

[jeff]

doesnt everyone do it . a ten pound fish is accually 8 pounds . a 52inch spread moose is accually 48 ,my car does 10 second quarter mile ,its really 11 second car and so on,

[moosinaround]

was that that fat 4 pointer u shot last year? he was a pig i can see him goin 120 boned out.
It's too bad so many folks Bitched about his vid, cause it showed the Hawg mulie in person!! Moosin

[moosinaround]

doesnt everyone do it . a ten pound fish is accually 8 pounds . a 52inch spread moose is accually 48 ,my car does 10 second quarter mile ,its really 11 second car and so on,\
Yup, thats what I'm talkin about!! "10% bull$hit factor"copyright 1993 Moosinaround Inc. Moosin

[The Dawg]

was that that fat 4 pointer u shot last year? he was a pig i can see him goin 120 boned out.

Yep. The one we were just chatting about :)

[3kills]

It's too bad so many folks Bitched about his vid, cause it showed the Hawg mulie in person!! Moosin
i think i might have missed the bullshit bout the vid or forgot i m getting old LOL

[3kills]

Any body thats hunted both Whitetail and Mulies knows that Mulies are in fact (bigger animals). I believe Noah Dawg, because he's no bullshitter and he's moosinaround's bud :wink: and that is all we need to know heheheh....and I've had the pleasure of meeting him..Carry on.

here here! I havent met eater dawg or moosin but I would share a fire with them any day of the week!

[IslandHunterBXL]

It's always interesting to see what hunters say their animals weighed "on the hook" at their butcher's place.

Recently, there was a thread on here where a basket whitetail buck apparently weighed 178 lbs on the hook. Basket whitetail weigh 85 to 100 lbs on the hook. My 162" monster weighed 145 lbs on the hook, and he was fat and in good shape, and 5 or 6 years old.
Lots of other threads seem to hold similarly overweight animals. Just a word of advice: don't let your butcher retire early. You may want to do a bit of weighing yourself before you get ripped off.


If you are talking about my thread, i dont think i referred to it as a "basket", but it tipped at 178 lbs - no head, no hide, gutted, legs off at the knees. Was weighed twice, once at a local game cooler 178 lbs (after a week of hanging in the bush already), and again 3 days later at the butcher shop 172 lbs. Find the link and watch the youtube clip, especially the last 3 or 4 seconds and you can see how fat it is. It had rolls of fat on its back. Note: thats me holding it in the video and i'm 6'4, 275 lbs. in comparison

[Weatherby Fan]

Well the biggest Mulie I shot was 237lbs head and hide on only guts out which I thought was pretty big !
until a friend shot a very old Mule Deer just off the pipeline on Bonaparte Pipeline,he was 16 at the time and shot with an open sights 30-30 and it weighed 308 lbs ,only guts out,his first deer he ever shot.
It was weighed at Boileau's Game Cutting in Maple Ridge,it was dark when he got to Boileau's and he was telling the butcher about the big deer he got,Boileau had a quick look in the back of the truck and said "stupid kid doesn't even know what he's shot its a moose" with a closer look he said holy shit kid that is a big deer !

Largest Mule Deer recorded 410lbs field dressed shot in Colorado
Largest WT Deer recorded 408lbs field dressed shot in Minnesota

[Beaufortranger]

I cant believe the bs that occurs as a result of someones good fortune. I was with the the previous poster who shot the large whitetail. The weights he is describing are hanging in the locker weights. The deer hung on our pole for 6 days before it was weighed twice. Once at the first meat cooler on a balance beam scale and secondly when we delivered to Double R meats in Port Alberni. Biggest deer I had ever been involved in gutting, transporting, and hanging. Shoot even the butcher at 101 meats remarked on the size of it referencing it as the size of an 'elk calf'. There is even video footage of the deer next to my hunting partner who is a huge man to verify its size. For crying out loud try and enjoy a persons large deer story not every hunter is a bjllshitter.

[bridger]

The biggest mulie i have taken weighed 336 lbs live weight didn't weigh it on the hook. biggest on the hook mulie i have seen was 232 lbs. peace country mulies alfalfa and grain fed.

[Beaufortranger]

Pretty much what this deer was har ested close to your home!