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TheProvider
08-24-2011, 07:26 PM
Just wondering if anyone on here has ever sighted in there 40yrd pin then next closest pin an so on. Apparently when done the gap between your pins will be smaller. Opinions people?

Marc
08-24-2011, 07:36 PM
it shouldn't matter which pin you set first they'll be the same distance if you sight in closest to far or viseversa. It's still the same ranges

TheProvider
08-24-2011, 07:43 PM
Here's the quote I read out of a magazine..... "Start at longer ranges and set those pins first- 40 ifyou want than 30. Work your way up so you can get a true 20 yard pin setting. If you don't start setting the longer pins first, your gap distance for 20 to 30 might be larger than the gap between 30 to 40."

358win
08-24-2011, 08:17 PM
I agree with Mark. Distance between pins depends on target distance and arrow speed. They work the same either way you do it.

donny.brooke
08-24-2011, 08:46 PM
try it both ways and see what happens and then let us know? i have an idea allready what the outcome will be

Bowzone_Mikey
08-24-2011, 08:50 PM
TheProvider is correct ... it all has to do with how you "zero" your bow and how it arcs

here is an article that explains it well http://archeryreport.com/2010/08/setting-first-pin-40-yards/


its just like shooting your rifle ...if you "zero" it at 300 you might hit 3.5" high at 100 ... but if you "zero" it at 100 you will need to aim a bit higher than 3.5" higher at 300

Ambush
08-24-2011, 11:05 PM
Set your middle pin first. Start by putting your middle pin just above centre in the housing. Then move the entire housing untill your middle pin is on at the yardage that pin is intended for.

If you have a five pin sight, set for ten yard increments and the first pin is going to be twenty yards, then your middle pin will be set for forty yards. In this case, set the forty yard pin just above centre in the housing. Adjust the whole housing up/down untill bang on at forty yards.
Now set your others pins by adjusting each individual pin. This method will insure that your pins are as centred, as much possible in the housing. This makes for a better, more natural sight picture when you align your peep and sight housing.

If you have a seven pin sight, start with the fifty yard pin.


If a three pin sight then start in the middle.

Your pin gap will remain the same, no matter which one you set first. Pin gap is dictated by arrow speed and arrow charateristics, such as weight, diameter, FOC, fletch helical. How level your arrow leaves the bow will also have an effect.

ydouask
08-25-2011, 06:28 AM
Sounds good to me Ambush, but with only six more sleeps till the Elk Archery opener I'm not going to start messing with anything . Not anxious or anything you understand.

brock77
08-25-2011, 08:02 AM
TheProvider is correct ... it all has to do with how you "zero" your bow and how it arcs

here is an article that explains it well http://archeryreport.com/2010/08/setting-first-pin-40-yards/


its just like shooting your rifle ...if you "zero" it at 300 you might hit 3.5" high at 100 ... but if you "zero" it at 100 you will need to aim a bit higher than 3.5" higher at 300



this is great..i tried this last year and got the same findings as the author of the atricle...but thought i was out to lunch with this finding......good find bowzone_mikey thanks

donny.brooke
08-25-2011, 04:03 PM
it sounds like where the pins are in relashion to the housing is the key not what pin is sighted in first, it sounds like a great thing to try out after opening week hunt

Ambush
08-25-2011, 08:02 PM
Here's the deal. It won't make any difference to your pin gap.
IF you are going to shoot one pin out to forty, then set that first pin to forty, IF you have a fast bow. You can do the same thing for thirty yards.
Try this and you'll see why.

Using a tall target, put a dot near the top to aim at. Now stand at twenty yards and shoot using your twenty yard pin.
Now back up to forty yards and shoot again still using your twenty yard pin. Measure the gap between your arrows.
Now reverse the procedure. Putting the dot nearer the bottom of the target and shoot at forty yards, using your forty yard pin. Move up to twenty yards and shoot still using your forty yard pin. Measure the distance between arrows.
The gap between the arrows will be closer in the second group.
The arc of an arrow crosses your line-of-sight twice, once close [rising] and once farther away [coming down]. Same as a bullet.

You are effectively going for your "maximum point blank" range. On a deer that would be the ability to put your arrow inside an eight inch circle without changing your aim point with a single pin. You can stretch that range by holding over or under.

You don't have to change your sight to try this, just do it the next time you are out shooting.
But just to be clear, you can not change your pin gap by sighting one pin before the others.

Bow Walker
08-26-2011, 09:45 AM
It seems that the OP is trying to get his pins centered within his sight aperture - and he is going about it the right way. It's tough when you're working with multiple pin sights and all the pins are crammed into the upper 2/3's of the sight window. Makes it tough to pick out one individual pin - especially in a hurry up hunting situation.

Centered and evenly spaced pins make aiming a breeze.

willyqbc
08-31-2011, 06:01 PM
If you center the pin in your peep....order of sighting in does not matter. If you center the whole housing in the peep then how you do your set-up will matter.

P.S. all you 3D shooterscarefully read what ambush wrote.....there is a vital secret to 3D success in there!!!!

Chris