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betteroffishing
02-20-2011, 09:42 AM
well as it happens this year i hammered a cranker buck , a 5x5 mulie nice and tall , my personal best by a long shot . being the cheap yet resoursefull sob that i am , i opted to not pay the 275 or so that i was quoted to have it euro mounted for me , instead i read up and aquired the necessary ingredients to make this thing happen . at was all going swimmingly till the peroxide step. in order to completely submerge the skull in the peroxide sollution the antlers bases were too going under , i used teflon tape then duct tape over that , hoping to form a gasket , a day and a half later my skull is bone white , but the bases did get slightly bleached out as well. not white , but no longer naturally browned. question is would you recomend wood stain , bleaching rest of antlers , shoe pollish , dirt ?? help please.

snareman1234
02-20-2011, 09:44 AM
I mixed walnut stain, coffee and dirt lol

kept mixing until I got the color I desired

I tried it on a fresh shed first, liked the color, re-stained the bases, all looks good.

betteroffishing
02-20-2011, 10:00 AM
thanks snare man , was this like a paste that you smeared on and left on there to dry or was it still a brushable { thin} consistency? thanks

elkdom
02-20-2011, 10:05 AM
well as it happens this year i hammered a cranker buck , a 5x5 mulie nice and tall , my personal best by a long shot . being the cheap yet resoursefull sob that i am , i opted to not pay the 275 or so that i was quoted to have it euro mounted for me , instead i read up and aquired the necessary ingredients to make this thing happen . at was all going swimmingly till the peroxide step. in order to completely submerge the skull in the peroxide sollution the antlers bases were too going under , i used teflon tape then duct tape over that , hoping to form a gasket , a day and a half later my skull is bone white , but the bases did get slightly bleached out as well. not white , but no longer naturally browned. question is would you recomend wood stain , bleaching rest of antlers , shoe pollish , dirt ?? help please.

make some thick DARK GRAVEY, smear on antlers,let dry, you'll be good to go!:-?

CanuckShooter
02-20-2011, 10:08 AM
check out the elk taxidermy thread, guy posted his staining on there should be able to give you some good advice.......did a fine job.

grizzlydueck
02-20-2011, 10:27 AM
Hey guys - all my heads are euro's they look great ! i have redone sheds-racks that have been left out side for a couple of years and will list my steps ! I'm sure any dark stain works! but the trick is in how you apply it!
-if you get a piece of cardboard- some dark walnut stain-i use min wax-an old tooth brush -some q-tips-an old shirt for a rag =thin rag-and your set!
take the qtip dab it into the stain-and smear it on the cardboard making a big circle-then with the tooth brush-brush it in a circle to get uniform stain off the cardboard-starting at the bases circle brush the bottom and slowly work your way up =the bottom of the bases are always darker =then you thin the stain working up the antler-then gently wipe the stain off with your low nap rag =trying to leave the antler brorwn but leaving any raised area's white =as the animal does when rubbing a tree =any little bumps are rubbed white -repeat with small amounts of stain on toothbrush-if you start with to much= your screwd you will be amazed how good it turns out with a little bit of paticents-if you need peroxide go to a nursery plant store =its called oxygro -used for growing stronger roots etc- its a pretty high % -you don't have to submerge your head =use paper towel as a wick and baste it every once and a while!
happy euroing!

ROEBUCK
02-20-2011, 10:30 AM
use tea bags
they work very well for staining antlers

mark
02-20-2011, 10:32 AM
You cant put the words "cranker mulie" in a thread without pics! That's a bannable offense!

betteroffishing
02-20-2011, 10:37 AM
i will show pics once my shamefull situation has been resolved, he was pictured on the hoof in a thread in mid nov titled " big buck down" martyonthewater still hasnt posted the pictures of the posed shots he took at the scene of the crime. still waiting...lol

TPB
02-20-2011, 11:31 AM
Some guy awhile back mentioned a chemical called potassium permanganate to stain antlers it looked great and wasnt shiny like wood stain. http://www.ehow.com/how_5790365_use-potassium-permanganate-stain-antlers.html Is an article of how to im sure you can find more articles in detail

Will
02-20-2011, 11:40 AM
You cant put the words "cranker mulie" in a thread without pics! That's a bannable offense!
Yes I was thinking the same thing....a Cranker Muley post in February without pics ?????????? Get a Rope ! :twisted:
http://usera.ImageCave.com/BCWilly/2772052540_09191af635.jpg

MuleyMadness
02-20-2011, 11:43 AM
I mixed walnut stain, coffee and dirt lol

kept mixing until I got the color I desired

I tried it on a fresh shed first, liked the color, re-stained the bases, all looks good.

Bingo...cigarette or fire ashes work wonders too for that 'slightly gritty' look if the antlers had a bit of that 'dirty' look to them

Piperdown
02-20-2011, 11:47 AM
use potassiam permaganate :)

phoenix
02-20-2011, 12:00 PM
A hint on using peroxide. Wrap the part you want bleached in cheesecloth and then carefully soak the cheesecloth with peroxide. Use heavy nitrile gloves and be careful to not splash. I pour mine out of a measuring cup with a spout. Keep it moist for a couple of days, I mist with purified water every few hours. Hose off the whole thing and then carefully remove the cheesecloth. I use the peroxide from the grow-op store but watch it, it is very corrosive.
Kim

betteroffishing
02-20-2011, 12:58 PM
good idea phoenix , but like madge , i soaked in it. q? is the peroxide that i used dead now or can i safely re-pack it into its jug and re-use it on next years bear / deer?

phoenix
02-20-2011, 01:12 PM
I just throw mine out but I really don't know for sure. Obviously it has been changed into something else as it loses oxygen molecules during the bleaching process so I wouldn't add it back to any leftover pure stuff. For the cost I just buy new. I find one of the litre jugs will do 2-3 heads if you use the cheesecloth method.
Kim

betteroffishing
02-20-2011, 03:58 PM
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/thumbs/0255.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22739&cat=500&limit=recent)http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/thumbs/0264.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22738&cat=500&limit=recent)http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/thumbs/0273.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22737&cat=500&limit=recent)http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/thumbs/0287.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22736&cat=500&limit=recent)

so , this is the repaired area in the last pic , its gonna look great right over our bed.

Buckmeister
02-20-2011, 05:03 PM
Some guy awhile back mention a chemical called potassium permanganate to stain antlers it looked great and wasnt shiny like wood stain. http://www.ehow.com/how_5790365_use-potassium-permanganate-stain-antlers.html Is an article how to im sure you can find more ones in detail

I too have heard this works well. I think you can buy it a drug store.

Will
02-20-2011, 05:14 PM
okay all is forgiven.....Nice Buck too BTW ! :-D
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/0273.JPG

betteroffishing
02-20-2011, 06:15 PM
thank you all for your help. i was really worried that i had sh-t the bed there for a while. it seems to have turned out allright. do you guys seal the skull with varathane or thompsons waterseal or anything ? spray or brush?

doubled
02-20-2011, 06:20 PM
This is what I used to restore antlers.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=57773&highlight=potassium

greenhorn
02-20-2011, 06:31 PM
Nice buck!!

snareman1234
02-20-2011, 06:43 PM
Glad it worked out, what method did you end up using?

Blktail
02-20-2011, 06:48 PM
Don't know if tis was already suggested, but I used a solution of potassium permanganate per a suggestion from the BC Museum people to restore a set of caribou antlers. It stains the protein in the bone the same as tannin from trees does. Don't get it on you though. It stains like nicotine.

I bought the stuff through McGill & Ourme. I don't know where you can get ti now.

swampthing
02-20-2011, 06:51 PM
50/50 mix of walnut stain and linseed oil

TPB
02-20-2011, 09:00 PM
This is what I used to restore antlers.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=57773&highlight=potassium

That is the exact thread i was referring to

sherpa-Al
02-20-2011, 09:05 PM
Good job on the restaining, if the stain is too shiny buff it with a green scratchy pad and recoat if necessary. Drag the pad into the unaffected area of the antler to blend the color to eliminate any contrast.

I sealed my skulls with a 50/50 mixture of water and elmers glue. This is brushed on and let dry. Recoat 2-3 times. This will give you a semi gloss finish that you can handle without staining. If the skull starts to show grease spots , the glue can be removed with acetone, degreased again and re-sealed. Varathane may yellow over time and fairly permanent.

Al.

betteroffishing
02-20-2011, 09:07 PM
i just scuffed em up with fine steel wool , then swabbed on dark wallnut stain on the bleached out areas , let it sit for an hour or so then wiped it off , did it again and then again one last time feathering it up to the forks. wiped it down, now ive tied some pieces of peroxide soaked t-shirt around the bases as a few trickles of the stain got under my dam again. now ive just got to find a good looking piece of wood to mount it to and im in business. thanks again for all your help.