Slip cam vs. fixed blade boardheads???

[Dale]

Looking at either the rage slip cams or g5 montec fixed blade boardheads. Anyone have info on either of these and which is better?? Thanks.

[jrjonesy]

Both are excellent broadheads and both fly superbly. I've used both and I know lots of people who have used both. Countless animals have been taken with both.

You'll likely get people on here bashing mechanicals or vice versa but if you do your job, each of these broadheads will do theirs.

[Bow Walker]

I am a huge fan of fixed blade over mechanical broadheads - something about the loss of KE required to open/deploy the blades on mechanicals. I know, I know, it's all in my head. But - I still prefer fixed blade.

So - being biased as I am - I can't really comment on the Rage heads.

[OOBuck]

I have shot both the Rage & the G5.. Now for a mechanical I will go with the Grim Reaper, fixed the G5 no complaints..

[Howy]

I killed a muley and whitey buck this year with rage 2 blade. Both deer died very quickly but the broadheads were in very poor shape after. My hunting buddy killed a whitey with a g5 t3, very impresive wound and they don't predeploy in his quiver like the rage do. I'm going to t3's this spring montec's are also very tough but i prefer the big wound of mechanicals.

[jrjonesy]

Howy makes a good point on the T3. I carried them this year and killed a buck with one and it worked great. The blades are held more securely in place while in your quiver than the Rage blades.

[Bow Walker]

One of the biggest advantages of mechanicals is the ability to get them to fly like your field tips with a minimum of effort. That hasn't been a problem for me - my fixed blade broadheads usually fly true out to at least 50 yards - plus I like the ease of resharpening fixed over mechs.

[rocksteady]

Year before last I took a whitey doe at 40 yards with my X-Bow with the 3 blade rage slip cams.....Went through both sides of her, hung up on the fletching, she ran maybe 50 yards or so, piled up, broke my carbon bolt in the crash:icon_frow

Wound entrance and exit were both excellent.....Easy blood trail to follow......

[Big Lew]

I started out with fixed-blade heads and was very impressed with their effectiveness but had problems with consistent accuracy at longer ranges, or if it was breezy. Switched to expandable thunderheads and had great consistent accuracy out to fifty+ yards and they performed well. I bought a set of the 3-blade rage 3 years ago. Took one mulie buck (average size 4-point) with the blades deploying as advertised and doing a lot of damage as it went through the lungs at an angle and almost through the far shoulder. Two of the blades broke off inside the main part of the shoulder. I too, wasn't happy with the blades not staying put while I hiked about. Tried the trophyridge undertakers 2 years ago, shot a large 4-pointer, at 43 yards, blew right through, including a rib and shoulder-blade(thin back part), recovered the arrowhead which had absolutely no damage, and plan on using it again this year after honing the edges. Shot a smaller buck later with another undertaker which also blew right through but didn't hit any bones. Both heads opened immediately on contact. I was so impressed that I bought another set last year, I think they are called meat seekers now.


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[Bow Walker]

See - I knew it was all in my head...

[Jehiah]

I bought a set of rage 2 blades but have yet to fire anything other than the practice head - which had the EXACT POI as my field tips.
I was taken aback at how easily the rage blades pop off the o ring and havent had the pleasure of carrying them around in a quiver...:?
If anyone has a valid solution to this then OBVIOUSLY choose rage.:mrgreen:

[grunion]

I use a two blade 100gr rage that works great for me. I use a little heavier o ring to prevent the blades from deploying til impact.

[willyqbc]

I have no personal experience with the rage but when deciding between fixed and expandable my thoughts are pretty simple.....anytime you introduce moving parts you introduce the possibilty for more things to fail. Not saying they will fail, but the possibility is much greater than with the G5 as the montec is one solid piece of steel....there's nothing that can go wrong with it. The simpler the better for me.

Just my opinion
Chris

[bugler]

I'm one of those dinosaurs that won't use mechanicals. I get true flight and same impact as my field points with two blade fixed like the bear razorhead and magnus stinger. I have seen way too many arrows fail to completely pass through small deer on Wild TV when they are using mechanicals. Unacceptable for me, something I have never experienced on deer sized game.

[Big Lew]

I haven't watched very many TV hunting shows, but I've shot many mule deer and whitetail bucks with the 3 mechanicals I've previously mentioned without problems. Most late-model heads will work well with successful shot placement and shooting within your comfort zone.

[Bow Walker]

I guess I qualify as one of bugler's dinosaurs. :icon_frow

I tried mechanicals when I first started out - they lasted one season ony before I made the switch to fixed and/or replaceable blade heads.

The ones that I used were the NAP Spitfires, not that they were crap or anything. I just went with the "proper" heads...:wink:

[limit time]

I've been looking at a couple mec's myself. I'm going to try the BLOODRUNNER 2 blade or, the SCHWACKER 2 blade. They both look good on the youtube.

[mikeboehm]

rage 3 blade broadheads sucked had to track a deer 2 km, blades did not deploy. arrow when into the lung but did not pass thru. i shoot a pse omen 70lbs at 28" my speed is 342 fps shooting 390 grain arrows. i will never use rage again. i shot a 4 point mulie with muzzy mx4. arrow went through and deer didnt go 5 yards


MUZZY kick ASS

[mikeboehm]

the muzzy mx4 shoot like my field points

[Mountain Man]

Shot a few big game animals with the g5 montec, i have no reason to change. Great blade, and yes iam a fan of fixed blades.

I was able to fit my fist inside the exit hole in my muley this year !!

[ROEBUCK]

g5,s are great NEVER LET ME DOWN

[bcbrez]

Thought about trying the G5's but the slick tricks have proved them self as detroyers of deer with great accuracy. We'll see how they do on bears this spring.

[Bow Walker]

All my kills to date have been with Slick Tricks. Great product.

[mntbowhunter]

"I have seen way too many arrows fail to completely pass through small deer on Wild TV when they are using mechanicals. Unacceptable for me, something I have never experienced on deer sized game."

What is better about a complete pass through? When the blades are still in it and it runs it just keeps on cutting as the muscles move doesn't it? As long as you punch both lungs why does it have to go throuh?

Hey Ambush could you maybe post that video you sent me about mechanical broadhead? Hopefully other people could get a laugh too.

[Ambush]

Hey Ambush could you maybe post that video you sent me about mechanical broadhead? Hopefully other people could get a laugh too.
I'll try to find it.

Did your mechanicals pass through your mule deer or goat this past season?:wink: Right through ribs on both sides?

[Ambush]

This short video is for all the people who blame their broadheads when things go wrong. Funny!!


http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7349827/

[killman]

This short video is for all the people who blame their broadheads when things go wrong. Funny!!


http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7349827/

You wouldn't have anything to do with the making of that movie would you???:mrgreen: I agree I hate broadheads and mechanicals I can't hit shit with either. Hoping they make something new this year that is maybe guided or something.:wink:

[ThinAir]

This short video is for all the people who blame their broadheads when things go wrong. Funny!!


http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7349827/



Oh man....I nearly pee'd my pants!:mrgreen:

What do you think Ambush.....50 animals killed with mechanicals in our hunting group???? Some of them we may not of recoverd without them.

Oh ya....I shoot the rage 2 blade.

[bugler]

Yup, when the shot is perfect it doesn't much matter what head you use, as long as it is sharp. It is when it goes a bit sideways that the extra penetration can pay off. I personally prefer an exit hole as much as possible.

Your group has 50 with mechs, mine has over 100 with 2 blade fixed. Means nothing really. Just my observations on what I see on the bowhunting shows. Mechs give something up in penetration so I won't use them, personal preference.

[ThinAir]

Yup, when the shot is perfect it doesn't much matter what head you use, as long as it is sharp. It is when it goes a bit sideways that the extra penetration can pay off. I personally prefer an exit hole as much as possible.

Your group has 50 with mechs, mine has over 100 with 2 blade fixed. Means nothing really. Just my observations on what I see on the bowhunting shows. Mechs give something up in penetration so I won't use them, personal preference.

I would agree that the "older" mech's lacked penetration....but since using the "newer" ones I've never had a problem. In fact, the only animal that I didn't get a pass through on was my goat this year. Quartering away, down-hill shot and the arrow nearly got through the opposite leg/shoulder.

My bro shot a bull moose at 40 yards this year with a Rage 2 blade....complete pass through. Went through the rib on entrance side. I just haven't ever witnessed any of the "horror" stories:???:

I guess one day I'll experience what everyone sees on TV

[mntbowhunter]

I think what a lot of people see on TV may be a bounce back. Sometimes that arrow hits the oposite shoulder and bounces back really quickly and it doesn't look like a lot of penetration.

Ambush and ThinAir, I think our group is well over 50 and I dont think any of us will be taking mechanicals out of our quivers any time soon. Haven't had one fail us yet!

ThinAir I dont think there will be a day when you will experience that buddy.

[Bow Walker]

I agree that the mechanicals of today are much better than they were even a few years ago. Advancements in design, ease of deployment, and newer stronger materials have made todays mechanicals much, much more dependable than they ever were.

That being said, I'll stick what has proven successful for me personally. There are proponents of each style of broadhead that is on the market. It's all good if what you use does the job.

Next time out (if given the right opportunity) I'm going to try what is usually considered a traditional broadhead. That being the Stinger 2-blade in the 100 grain size. We'll see.