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GoatGuy
02-04-2011, 08:47 PM
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/region6sheep.jpg

150fighter
02-04-2011, 08:53 PM
Wow, sure looks like resident hunters sure dont like hunting in region 6 eh. Other than zones 6-20 and 6-21 it seems the NR are ahead in most other regions. Cool data, thanks for this!

GoatGuy
02-04-2011, 09:00 PM
1996-2010

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/reg6.jpg

stoneguide
02-04-2011, 09:01 PM
Hey GG, just curious if you happen to have the NR quota numbers? And AAH numbers? Just curious as to the reasons that NR in many parts of the zone are so high in relation to Res.

I dont know region 6, does it have less resident hunting numbers? Different regulations?

Just wondering if the Res. hunters just arent out there or if different variables are keeping it this uneven(first table).
SG

lange1212
02-04-2011, 09:02 PM
Cumulative GO quota for the Skeena is 127.

BromBones
02-04-2011, 09:03 PM
Wow, sure looks like resident hunters sure dont like hunting in region 6 eh.

Actually the opposite. Resident hunters have put in a lot of days in the field for sheep in reg 6.

Thanks for posting, GG.

GoatGuy
02-04-2011, 09:06 PM
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/reg61.jpg

lange1212
02-04-2011, 09:11 PM
There is no AAH outside of Parks in the Skeena.

BCbillies
02-04-2011, 09:19 PM
Been waiting for these numbers. Interesting to see that in 2010 the resident harvest matched the NR harvest for the first time . . . at least in the last 15 years. I would guess the additional LEH tags was the biggest factor for the increase.

Buck
02-04-2011, 09:33 PM
I wonder how many NR hunted the last few years compared to the previous.I suspect the economy was a big factor?

GoatGuy
02-04-2011, 09:36 PM
Been waiting for these numbers. Interesting to see that in 2010 the resident harvest matched the NR harvest for the first time . . . at least in the last 15 years. I would guess the additional LEH tags was the biggest factor for the increase.

Yep, for sure and still not achieving.

BromBones
02-04-2011, 09:47 PM
Been waiting for these numbers. Interesting to see that in 2010 the resident harvest matched the NR harvest for the first time . . . at least in the last 15 years. I would guess the additional LEH tags was the biggest factor for the increase.

Also see the NR for the last two years is down roughly 10-12 from the average. Outfitters not booking as many sheep hunts/shitty economy maybe a factor as well?

GoatGuy
02-04-2011, 09:55 PM
Also see the NR for the last two years is down roughly 10-12 from the average. Outfitters not booking as many sheep hunts/shitty economy maybe a factor as well?

Probably in a couple spots.

budismyhorse
02-04-2011, 10:09 PM
Can someone tell me what the single biggest reason for the recent change in percentages is?

GoatGuy
02-04-2011, 10:13 PM
Can someone tell me what the single biggest reason for the recent change in percentages is?

More LEH for residents. And residents still aren't acheiving the AAH is many of the areas.

budismyhorse
02-04-2011, 10:16 PM
do you have age structure data like usually posted for R 7... over under 8?

mfarrally
02-04-2011, 10:46 PM
the outfitter out of Atlin dropped the price of sheep hunts from 39500 to 25000 for the up coming season. Bookings haven't been great obviously. And Northwest Big game Outfitters didn't take a single Dall ram this year it looks like

budismyhorse
02-04-2011, 10:48 PM
I bet the GO in 6-20 is tickled pink over the new LEH numbers.....that being said, it didn't seem to effect the NR kill.........

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/Skeena_Stats_2008_-20101.jpg



I put the data next to eachother for easier comparison.........hopefully I didn't screw up the numbers......please point it out if I did.

lange1212
02-04-2011, 11:23 PM
Been waiting for these numbers. Interesting to see that in 2010 the resident harvest matched the NR harvest for the first time . . . at least in the last 15 years. I would guess the additional LEH tags was the biggest factor for the increase.

Certainly the increase in Spatsizi from 50 to 110 LEH authorizations hepled. Historicacally residents have only be harvesting about 2 rams annually. Note that the resident allocation is 11 and this year with 110 LEH authorization harvested 9 rams. Further this did not hinder the GO from achieving his full quota of 8.

As for G.O.S areas nothings changed other than due to the economic down turn GO's had less booking resulting in less NR harvest. On the flip side as a result the resident sheep harvest increased.

I believed that quota in the Skeena outside of Parks has been set way too high. Looking at the sheep harvest by year stats., combining NR and Res. harvest together and dividing by the 15 years, the combined annual harvest average is 103 per year. Now consider that the cumulative quota is 127 provided to GO's alone and that both residents and NR together can't harvest this number should turn some heads. Now factor in that when NR harvest decreases resident harvest increase and that the Skeena has no established AAH... should sound alarms.

BCbillies
02-05-2011, 01:16 AM
I bet the GO in 6-20 is tickled pink over the new LEH numbers.....that being said, it didn't seem to effect the NR kill.........

Be interesting to know if the GO had to put in more effort or take "lesser" rams with all the residents combing those hills. The breakdown of age and date of kill for resident and NR is usually available from Victoria. For those residents that flew into Spatsizi for the opener was it busy?

GoatGuy
02-05-2011, 08:11 AM
Be interesting to know if the GO had to put in more effort or take "lesser" rams with all the residents combing those hills. The breakdown of age and date of kill for resident and NR is usually available from Victoria. For those residents that flew into Spatsizi for the opener was it busy?


I bet the GO in 6-20 is tickled pink over the new LEH numbers.....that being said, it didn't seem to effect the NR kill.........

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/Skeena_Stats_2008_-20101.jpg



I put the data next to eachother for easier comparison.........hopefully I didn't screw up the numbers......please point it out if I did.

Understand they still went 100% and I'm sure the age was still way up there (mean ~10). Highest success rate in the province (almost always 100%) and they kill a couple of good rams every year. Days per kill are usually 3 or 4. Depending on where they're hunting half of the time is spent getting from camp to where they're going sheep hunting.

Don't think age is out yet.

They aren't happy about the Allocation Policy and did file a couple of appeals with the EAB which is interesting as their quota for sheep was not reduced however quota likely will be for the other species.

boxhitch
02-05-2011, 12:46 PM
Now consider that the cumulative quota is 127 provided to GO's alone .......
.I guess my figures are outdated.
From R.M. at a meeting in 2006? 2007?
Rough notes here

Region 6
46-5800 Stone's
300-400 Dall's
13 separate herds identified by name

23 g/o's
total 148 quota

4 resident LEH hunts with 277 authorizations

Average harvest was 30%resident 70% non-resident

snareman1234
02-05-2011, 06:16 PM
Does anybody know how many LEH draws were given out in 2010 for 6-21 (edziza) for sheep?

BCbillies
02-05-2011, 06:32 PM
Does anybody know how many LEH draws were given out in 2010 for 6-21 (edziza) for sheep?

12 . . . up from 6 in 2009. In the past very few sheep were harvested by residents from Edziza. I would expect that 2 or 3 may have been taken by residents in 2010.

snareman1234
02-05-2011, 06:54 PM
Wasn't there 13 sheep harvested by residents in 6-21 in 2010?

kennyj
02-05-2011, 06:55 PM
thanks for the info GoatGuy. Very interesting.
kenny

BCbillies
02-05-2011, 07:37 PM
Wasn't there 13 sheep harvested by residents in 6-21 in 2010?

Yes . . . but only a portion of 6-21 is on LEH. The other areas apart from Edziza are GOS.

lange1212
02-05-2011, 08:51 PM
Wasn't there 13 sheep harvested by residents in 6-21 in 2010?

Please remember that 6-21 and 6-20 are large zones and only a portion of the land base encompasses Edziza and Spatsizi Parks which are on LEH. The area outside of the Park are on GOS.

The stats. provided show total sheep harvest by MU, this includes GOS and Parks LEH harvest numbers together.

houndogger
02-05-2011, 09:36 PM
So 6-28 has no sheep tags for the outfitter? 2010 residents got no sheep either?

budismyhorse
02-06-2011, 12:01 AM
Hounddogger......no, Goodwin has quota for that zone, just hasn't shot one in awhile.....blanks are zero's so you are correct, no resident tagged a sheep in 6-28 last year.

GoatGuy
02-06-2011, 10:17 PM
Posted for Lange1212

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/reg62.jpg

Orangethunder
02-12-2011, 08:45 AM
That is some interesting information, thanks for sharing. Seeing how few are taken you realize why the GO's dislike seeing you soooooooooooooooooo much!!:twisted: