Spring Grizzly hunters

[srupp]

For those that sent me e-mails over the past 2 weeks, I apologize ...

Susan and Ebony and I went to Kamloops and ended up with Susan and Ebony staying at a hotel while I ended up with emergency surgery..:confused:

2 days in emerg, then up to 5th floor and then wait for a specialist surgeon from Kelowna..then more waiting for surgical room times in the operating room..then surgery didnt go as well as hoped so a few more days of the girls waiting for me in the hotel...$$$$$$$$$$$$..lol

JUST back home today and TRASHED..in pain but I will send phone numbers for those grizzly bear hunters to contact me...better be soon as LEH'S Aare due next month for spring draw..

Some good drugs and I will be good as new and ready to try an help..

who knows with some GREAT drugs I may spill the beans..:mrgreen:

not so cheerful today

Steven

[Mik]

Not so Cheerful; But you always seem to smile, keep the chin up. Heres to Wishing you a speedy recovery:)

[NaStY]

Hope everything goes well with recovery. Your an icon around here ya know :mrgreen:

[pearljam]

Just cross your fingers those clowns at RIH used clean tools on ya. They have been pretty bad there the last few years!

[Gateholio]

On the bright side, you didn't get booted in the head while in Kelowna.:-D

Hope you are feeling better soon.:-|

[Leaseman]

Hope everything goes well with recovery. Your an icon around here ya know :mrgreen:

You mean a legend in his own mind.......:wink::mrgreen:

Messages sent buddy.... heal up as I have a big dino tied up for you..... just fattening him up so your arms can have a work out!!!

By the way.... Nick has just passed the 6"3" mark, so he says he may throw YOU over board this time....:wink:

[wildcatter]

Get well soon Steven, hopefully see you in a few months.

[quadrakid]

Hope your feeling better real quick,surgery always takes the wind out of your sails.

[olharley guy]

Howdy, take your drugs and don't forget to eat well if you are able for a quick heal-got to have coffee in a few months you know! Later

[Springer]

Welcome back Elmer ! It appears your back home ,....mending , and when you do hopefully you will get a chance at a Cat with that HillBilly Cat Hunt'n Guy.
I dont know about how much snow you have in W.Lk ,but back here in A.B , I would guess 20-24" . There is not much room left , between the houses to throw what gets shovelled off the driveway & Walkways..
Anyway on with the Spring Grizzly Stories......

[vortex hunter]

Yeah get well soon steven....

[Barracuda]

well i put in for a draw so i guess i will ask for a bit of advice:mrgreen:

Get well soon

[srupp]

it is my considered opinion I need more drugs.:mrgreen:

HOWEVER back to grizzly hunters the snow conditions are THE ABSOLUTE best in 30 years! lots of the deep white stuff..that is important because it helps keep the Bears in predictable areas. Especially on the Cariboo Mountains, and even on the coastal mountains the Bears will den up on the South side of the mountain, slopes up high, when the snow starts to melt its the opening bell for spring feeding season and these mighty Giants merely need to go straight downhill still groggy and sleepy and grumpy from a long hibernation. Two of their first foods they must have, must have are fiddlehead and skunk cabbage these grow in low lying swampy areas with an accumulation of standing water and this provides the drug that removes the butt plug from the Bears rectum, allowing it to voraciously feed morning to night.

The snow also forces bears into very predictable feeding patterns and locations these are so predictable that they can be spotted on Google Earth without any experience at all. Be looking at south facing slopes. These south facing slopes get the warm spring rays of the sun heating them up and allowing for slide conditions, and we've also seen that this is been one of the worst years for slide so far in the mountains. Once the south facing slope slide they start to green up and that's where the Bears will be, by careful attention to wind direction and thermal current, that's the heating of the air by the sun and moved by hot air rising from first light to about 10 AM and then the reverse comes to in the afternoon when thermal currents will push the cold air down to the valley bottom, both these will have impacts on bears in the area. Slides need to be glass for hours and hours and hours and days from a reasonable distance from the side of the slide always always careful for the wind direction and backing out before before the thermals push your sent uphill into the slides.

So with lots of snow in the mountains come spring the grizzlies will be concentrated on the slides and there will be no food in amongst the trees and to a certain extent even in the valleys and the cup blocks as these do not have a steep an angle as the slides and must melt rather than slide which is a faster process and occurs earlier. These truths remain constant even for coastal mountains all the Bears spend much shorter time in the mountains on the slides and head to the valley bottoms for the River and the tidal flats.

So I predict an exceptionally good year for the spring grizzly hunters be they mountain bear hunters or coastal bear hunters.

Grumpy Steven

[hunter1947]

Srupp I wish to you a speedy recovery :wink:.

[sneg]

Srupp thanks for prediction. get well soon.

[srupp]

Thanks everyone for their well wishes, I have some good drugs on board, and am tolerating the situation I find myself in, Susan and Ebony are spoiling me and Jacuzzi hot tub takes a lot of the aches and pains away.

I also spoke with Doug this morning prior to his heading out with another client for cougars I wish him well them success and safety.

I predict that in the coastal region i.e. the region 5-08 three coastal grizzlies that meet or exceed the minimum for the Boone and Crockett records book will be taken, one over 9 1/2 feet !

For the mountains east of Williams Lake i.e. Cariboo mountains I predict even better year as I can see five or even eight grizzlies being harvested this spring:mrgreen:!! The one area in particular should have a very decent silvertip come out of there, and there's nothing that will beat and 8/2 foot silvertip from the mountains, there are some very very outstanding sized chocolate grizzlies in this area also and I predict a few of those.

This will be the best grizzly season for the past 20 years!

Steven

[griz325]

get well soon steven all the best in a speedy recovery

[beni]

Couldn't convince any friends to put in for Spring Grizz. Won't be going this year =(

[sneg]

Srupp,

What is your forecast for region 7 ?

[srupp]

Thanks for all the well wishers...:mrgreen: next surgery is being scheduled for Vancouver...:cry:.....

However I am getting LOTS of calls regarding G bears..

Sneg almost as good as the Cariboo...slight snow difference..may make a weeks difference in dates?? not much..

LETS GET THOSE LEH'S in boys and ladies...

cheers
Steven:mrgreen:

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Any one find the final draw numbers?? In the LEH synopsis it says they'll be posted on the MOE website by today ....but there's nothing posted on the link they provided:confused:.
I would like to get my application in the mail by today.

SSS

[BromBones]

Was waiting for the updated numbers as well. Sent mine in today rather than end up waiting and miss the deadline.

[bowhunterbruce]

sent mine in on monday.may the gods be with me or the wife:-D

[mcrae]

They posted some numbers

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/resident/docs/Spring%202011%20Numbers%20for%20Web.pdf

[bayou]

They posted some numbers

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/resident/docs/Spring%202011%20Numbers%20for%20Web.pdf

Am I missing somehing here, how come the hunt codes posted here for each MU are all one number different then what is posted in the 2010/2011 LEH synopsis for the spring 2011 grizzly bear.

[mcrae]

Am I missing somehing here, how come the hunt codes posted here for each MU are all one number different then what is posted in the 2010/2011 LEH synopsis for the spring 2011 grizzly bear.

typo I hope....

[Maxx]

typo I hope....

Better be a typo.....yikes....some numbers are 2 off the synopsis...

[Krico]

UH OH!

I just checked a few hunts, and compared the update in the link, the 2010/2011 synopsis and an old 2007 synopsis.

The hunt codes were the same for my old synopsis from 2007 and the online update. The 2010/2011 synopsis seems to be the different one.

It looks like the synopsis may be the one with the typo. As far as I know they use the same code year after year for each hunt. I'm glad my card is still on my desk, I'll wait until getting a solid answer from Victoria before I send mine in!!!

[mcrae]

UH OH!

I just checked a few hunts, and compared the update in the link, the 2010/2011 synopsis and an old 2007 synopsis.

The hunt codes were the same for my old synopsis from 2007 and the online update. The 2010/2011 synopsis seems to be the different one.

It looks like the synopsis may be the one with the typo. As far as I know they use the same code year after year for each hunt. I'm glad my card is still on my desk, I'll wait until getting a solid answer from Victoria before I send mine in!!!

Ya your right the online synopsis is diffrent than the link info as well...

Let us know when you hear back...

[.330 Dakota]

Get well soon Steve, I havent forgotten the good advice you gave me last year and will be applying it this spring. My LEH'S are already in and my fingers are crossed. Was nice to have coffee with you last year as well....Thanks Again...Brad

[todbartell]

guess it's a good thing I'm a procrastinator :mrgreen: I will call LEH on Monday about hunt codes

[mcrae]

guess it's a good thing I'm a procrastinator :mrgreen: I will call LEH on Monday about hunt codes

I have not sent mine yet either usually its done early...

[BromBones]

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It looks like the synopsis may be the one with the typo. As far as I know they use the same code year after year for each hunt.

The hunt codes do change from year to year, sometimes.

[Shade Tree]

Good spott'in. I can't imagine the confusion this is going to cause. You put in for a great area, but you win a tag for a crap area in another region completely.

[Barracuda]

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/resident/leh.html


so what are they gonna do with all the people that put the cards in useing this data which is posted as current it seems.

[BCbillies]

so what are they gonna do with all the people that put the cards in useing this data which is posted as current it seems.

Regroup . . . then make contact with all the applicants . . . delay the draw until April 15th. :wink: Hmmm . . . maybe the antis have made some inroads!

[Barracuda]

so i guess this means that the results should arrive about the same time the season ends LOL

[swampthing]

Wow. I sent my card in long ago. The link on here isnt where I want to go. If anybody gets any info on this, pleases let us know.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Not only are the hunts codes different but the number of draws looks wrong. The number of draws in the area I was going to put in for went up by over 2 1/2 times. The MU column must have shifted....but how far is anyone's guess?

SSS

[Fisher-Dude]

My choice shifted by one - to the WRONG side of the mountain. :-|

Can I submit the bill for 4 hours extra travel time to the MoE?

PS - that's what happens when a union is involved - no one checks their work or pays attention. :tongue:

[mcrae]

Not only are the hunts codes different but the number of draws looks wrong. The number of draws in the area I was going to put in for went up by over 2 1/2 times. The MU column must have shifted....but how far is anyone's guess?

SSS

I noticed that as well. The area I apply for is usually 12 draws but according to the link they have it went up to 27 draws:eek: Which is fine but there are really only 3-4 drainages to hunt so thats allot of company!!!

[Stone Sheep Steve]

I noticed that as well. The area I apply for is usually 12 draws but according to the link they have it went up to 27 draws:eek: Which is fine but there are really only 3-4 drainages to hunt so thats allot of company!!!

Draws on both sides of the draw I usually put in for uaually have similar number but they now don't so it doesn't look like they've shifted by only one either way:confused:.

SSS

[Barracuda]

depending on your hunt code you could end up getting a draw in a completly differnt region. I am guessing(hopeing) that the hunt codes are incorrect on the the latest sheet they put up

[BromBones]

Pretty sure the updated list is a screw up. They do change hunt codes from year-to-year sometimes, but have never seen them change the codes on the updated list in late January.

I'm sure the LEH office will have a hundred e-mails waiting for them tomorrow morning and we'll have it figured out :)

[todbartell]

I see 7-23E went from 17 draws in 2010 (0.1:1 odds) to 50 draws. You can quad across the zone in about 90 minutes. Access is by driving across a flooded road and its really grown in and brushy in most spots....50 tags....i think they're hoping somebody tries there LOL

[BlacktailStalker]

Recent research shows grizzlies have adapted to pressure from hunters and are now planning a come back.
Biologists have peeked into many dozen sow dens this winter and they've all had litters of 10 or more cubs.
The increase in LEH authorizations is to combat these future potential marauding bears.
Even David Suzuki is concerned and recently got his CORE and PAL, as he doesnt want to end up like his friend Timothy Tastewell.

[tomahawk]

Recent research shows grizzlies have adapted to pressure from hunters and are now planning a come back.
Biologists have peeked into many dozen sow dens this winter and they've all had litters of 10 or more cubs.
The increase in LEH authorizations is to combat these future potential marauding bears.
Even David Suzuki is concerned and recently got his CORE and PAL, as he doesnt want to end up like his friend Timothy Tastewell.

Nice Andy!!!

[killman]

Anyone have a spare card they want to send in for me?

[leadpillproductions]

I just checked my odds went way up but in the wrong area , might have to call them in the morning .

[Kody94]

I talked to the very personable LEH guy this AM, and he clarified the error for me (and quite a few others already!). Short story is:

1. Use the hunt codes from the synopsis.
2. Use the # of authorizations from the update.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

I talked to the very personable LEH guy this AM, and he clarified the error for me (and quite a few others already!). Short story is:

1. Use the hunt codes from the synopsis.
2. Use the # of authorizations from the update.

Looks like they deleted the update link...or somehow changed it?:confused:

SSS

[Fosey]

What a complete waste of time. How could something so easy be screwed up? I'll betcha they are scrambling in Victoria. In Campbell River neither the Access Center or Sports shops have any sheets on the Hunt Codes. This shows the complete lack of respect the MOE has for our hunts and money. If this website didn't exist I would have no idea about these early hunts. The poor guy that can't use or afford the time to sit in front of a computer is totally in the dark.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

What a complete waste of time. How could something so easy be screwed up? I'll betcha they are scrambling in Victoria. In Campbell River neither the Access Center or Sports shops have any sheets on the Hunt Codes. This shows the complete lack of respect the MOE has for our hunts and money. If this website didn't exist I would have no idea about these early hunts. The poor guy that can't use or afford the time to sit in front of a computer is totally in the dark.

Gary-You can find it here...pg 14. In the paper version as well.
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/resident/docs/leh_10_11.pdf

And it it also mentioned here in the "Hunting News" scetion...although the link doesn't really get you to the proper location.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/news/

The only things that have may have changed are the number of authorizations....and they usually don't swing that much.

SSS

[todbartell]

thanks for updating us Kody, I tried calling at 9am but didnt get through to a human

[jml11]

Looks like they deleted the update link...or somehow changed it?:confused:

SSS

Link has been corrected, with what appears to be the correct Hunt Codes.

[srupp]

I will be "out of the office " for the next surgery in Kamloops Feb 15th for 4 days..:cry: however this isnt before the notices come out for Grizz LEH I WILL be around for info and any help I can provide for those sucessful in capturing a coveted Spring Grizzly LEH tag.

Good luck to all

Steven

[srupp]

hmmmm phone calls and e-mails and visits regarding spring grizzlies are slowing down..hopefully everyone got the right draw in ....on time???

must be ..more phone calls re black bears and mountaain caribou...


So next week its off AGAIN for surgery in Kamloops YUK...and another month off work...so coffee is on @ my house...and fly tying..

and then a week later its into Vancouver General Hospital for "urgent surgery"..surgeon pulled some strings..the 18 month waiting list for "urgent surgery" went to 3 months and now 2 1/2 weeks...

Only down side apart from diminished wages ...is I need to make some German dinner sausage and Italian breakfast sausage...hmmmm

oh well good drugs..off to sleep and think of "MARY " lmao....:mrgreen:

I leave for the first surgery Feb 13th or 14th...


ANYONE KNOW OF "REASONABLE COST" HOTEL CLOSE TO VANCOUVER GENERAL HOSPITAL"????? as Susan will be there for a few days and myself after out of Hospital prior to travelling home..


Steven

Steven