DARKHOSE Archery - STUDS

[The Hermit]

I am very pleased to announce that VantagePoint Outfitters (HBC Sponsor) is currently the first and only retail dealer for a designed and developed in BC line of high end arrows from Darkhorse Archery.

Please check out http://www.darkhorsearchery.ca/ and then link back to http://www.VantagePoint-Outfitters.com to order up a dozen "Studs"!

Darkhorse Arrows - STUD Series - High Performance Arrows
Accuracy, consistency, durability, such are the ingredients that go into making a truly great arrow.

Welcome to the new Stud Series arrows from Darkhorse Archery.
Stud Series take accuracy; consistency and durability to new levels by incorporating several key design features that provide the perfect balance of these highly prized arrow qualities.

Square Weave
Every Stud Series arrow takes advantage of a two- part carbon fiber design that incorporates our Square Weave carbon fiber into the outer layers. Simply put – to have a consistently accurate arrow you need an arrow that reacts in a consistent manner each time it comes off the string of your bow. Square Weave achieves this by creating bundles of carbon fibers that intersect each other both the length and diameter of the arrow. Each of the hundreds of these carbon fiber “intersections” all react to arrow flex in the same manner. It is these same ‘intersections’ that help create an extremely durable arrow as this interlocking weave serves to strengthen the entire length.
Square Weave construction also makes a safer arrow. Destructive testing revealed that upon arrow failure Stud Series arrows broke into clean pieces – no splintering or fracturing, a trait that is common in many other arrows.
Oh and did we mention Square Weave makes for one very sexy arrow? Yes, good looks are just the icing on the cake!

Internal Taper
There is a reason behind the slightly different internal diameters found on either end of the Stud Series arrows. The front of the arrow has a smaller I.D. than the nock end of the arrow; this is due to designed Internal Taper. The reason for this feature? More material on the business end of your arrow means an arrow with good front of center (FOC) before adding components. Good FOC characteristics are a proven dynamic behind accurate flight and penetration. Increase mass in this portion of the arrow also helps the arrow settle into stable flight much quicker.

In addition doesn’t it just make perfect sense to build up the business end of the arrow? After all it’s the end that takes all the hits, so build it accordingly!

[Bow Walker]

It might help prospective buyers to be able to see the arrow selection chart, to know which arrow they want - before viewing the information on the shafts...just a thought.


http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/Darkhorse_Arrow_Chart.jpg (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22279&size=big&cat=)

[Onesock]

Nice chart, but what pt weights are they using for this spine chart to work?

[Bow Walker]

Since the only point that Darkhorse has for sale is their 100 grain broadhead, I'd assume that the chart is calibrated using 100 grain points.

Good question, though.

Care to address this Cam?

[The Hermit]

I believe that the chart was developed with the 100gr points. I pinged Cam at Darkhorse to answer directly... he may not be able to answer for a few days as he is tending to a family matter this week.

[Slugman]

Hey guys, yes thats correct the charts reflect arrows tipped with 100grn points. Looks like some more web tweaking is needed, with additional arrow selection details to be added. In the meantime if anyone has any questions about their paticular set-up and what arrow would work best just let Bill or myself know and we can get back to you!
On another note looks like a good number of the Darkhorse Staff will be at the Canadian Indoor 3D Nationals, January 21-23 in Lethbridge. If early season results were any indication this crew could clean up!

[The Hermit]

Hey Cam why not let everyone here know who the staff shooters are?? Potential customers might like to ask them questions too! Cheers

[Slugman]

Yet agian... something to definatley add to the sight! Yikes just when I thought it was all buttoned up!
Oh well, I am very proud of the crew I signed on to the the Darkhorse Team with BC having some seriously talented shooters -

BC Team - Dave Sima, Vancouver
Mike Clendenning, Vancouver
Ken and Juile Bouck, Fort St. John
Basil and Velynda Szoo, Fort St. John
Alberta Team-
Rick Weste
Jim Crayford
Saskatchewan -
James Frigon
Manitoba-
Dan Hudson
Ontario-
Matt Jewell
Shane and Ben Baker
Jason Couture
Quebec-
Jacques Seguin
A small team to start but given the work load I have right now a welcome one! I personally take care of all the crews orders/arrow builds to make sure they go out the door fully tuned and built to spec! Watch for these guys and gals in 2011! I am really looking forward to results from this week ends 3D Shoot in Abbotsford and next weekends Indoor Nationals in Lethbridge!

[Slugman]

I didnt like the way that last post sounded... seriously talented shooters in BC yes but truth is all team can post some hard to beat scores!:-D Sorry guys, dont hate!

[dave*]

Some of the less talented but photogenic ones show up in funny places. Go have a look in Stephane's Abby shoot pictures day 1.

Good thing my back was turned to Stephane's camera, my ugly mug could have broken the lens LOL

D*

[Stéphane]

Some of the less talented but photogenic ones show up in funny places. Go have a look in Stephane's Abby shoot pictures day 1.

Good thing my back was turned to Stephane's camera, my ugly mug could have broken the lens LOL

D*
Dave, are you the one I talked to? Finished 3rd and wanted to buy the PSE from the guy won it? And don't worry about the camera, it's a tough cookie. :wink: Waterproof, dust proof, shock proof and photogenic genius proof.

Here's the link to the post he's referring to. http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=61675


Say I'm interested in trying some of these arrows. Can I just buy a couple or do I have to commit to 12?

[Bow Walker]

Talk to Vantage Point Outfitters - I'm sure Bill will sell you arrows "by-the-each".

[The Hermit]

Ha the only untalented person shooting the Darkhorse Studs was me!! Good fun at the shoot and nice to meet Dave, Mike, and Kyle - some of the much more talented "STUD" shooters.

[dave*]

Hello Stephan,

I am not the guy looking for the PSE, I am currently an Athens/DH/SH shooter.

You can see the back of my head in one of your photos.

You are thinking of Mike with the ponytail.

I did figure out who you were today when they gave you props for doing the pictures, and I must also say thanks and good job on the pics.

D*

[oldtimer]

I shoot at 55# with a 31 1/2 " draw length. I presently shoot Gold tip ultra lights. what "studs " would I need and what is the price for a dozen. To get as close as possible to 5 grains per pound are glue in tips able to fit the tips ?..............Mike

[Bow Walker]

I shoot at 55# with a 31 1/2 " draw length. I presently shoot Gold tip ultra lights. what "studs " would I need and what is the price for a dozen. To get as close as possible to 5 grains per pound are glue in tips able to fit the tips ?..............Mike
Ask the 'retailer'. He sells them, he should know...

[mercury0_0]

You might want to change the thread title from DARKHOSE Archery - STUDS to
DARKHORSE Archery - STUDS
The first one sounds like a porn title.:mrgreen:

[Slugman]

Hey Oldtimer just shot you a pm with all the details of your request. The site may be up and running but a few details and info will be added hopefully soon, my web guy is stupid busy these days, but he does great work so not a suprise!
For all who were wondering about gpi - the 340's 8.9gpi, 400's 7.2gpi and the 500's are 6.2gpi. Glue in tips will work with a little sanding to take the common standard size glue ins like Easton Nibbs(standard .246") just pop em in the old drill chuck and give er a few spins with some sandpaper and you get a great, snug fit!

[Slugman]

Good point Mercury, pretty easy to miss the odd letter now and then! There at least this one is fixed!

[The Hermit]

Title changed typo corrected.

8.9gpi for the 340's

7.2 for 400's

6.2 for 500's.

So as per Cam a good build for your arrow would be:

The Studs come stock as a 30" length, so the rest will determine how much room you have to play but my guess you will be fine at full length.
Easton Nibb points work with a light sand and any glue-in with a standard .246"O.D. will work with a gentle sand for a snug fit.

The following build would result in these numbers -
30" @7.2gpi = 216, Vane Tec HP 2" 15grn, DH Nock 10, Glue in Point 60grns = 301 grn Total weight @ 5.4gr/lb

I'm learning Bowwalker but Cam is the expert on his arrows and for a while I'll be leaning on the real pro!

[Bowzone_Mikey]

at 55# Oldtimer could almost shoot a 500 spine with those components and come in at 271 grains for a theroectical 4.927 grains per pound ... I am sure that we can stuff 4 grains of glue on those arrows to bring them in at 275 grains for an even 5gpp

With a relitively light tip like 60 grains .. I dont suspect it would be an issue out of Oldtimers "Guardian"????? I would certainly like to expiriment with it ...

[Slugman]

500's could be a possiablity but these arrows spine out almost exactly as advertised according to industry standard (28" span w/1.9lbs suspended from center) so using 500's would certainly all come down to dialing in the tip weight. Best selection would still be a 400 given the length that Oldtimers arrows actually(30") are and the rest set up will likely determine this, hate to suggest possiably the wrong spine just to gain a .5grn advantage to hit his 5grn per lb requirement. That being said we all like to experiment/tweak our gear!

[Bow Walker]

Tweaking gear is what got me into being somewhat of a bow tech. I just couldn't see myself making all those trips to a shop when I could easily learn to do it myself. Still learning as I go along.:wink:

Mike, my bow is set at 60 - 61 lbs (give or take a pound) and I had a chance to play with the .500's. I found them to be a bit too "spineless" for my setup and I was cutting them down to 27 3/8" with GT pin nocks and bushings, and standard inserts with 100 grain points.

The arrow just didn't fly perfect. I had to mess around quite a bit to get to be consistent. I should've got the .400's and I would've been golden. Instead, I thought that I knew better.:oops:

[Slugman]

Hey Dan thanks for the added insight, just wish I had insisted on the 400's for you! Its bound to happen from time to time tho given the huge amount of variables, soft cams, hard cams, agressive cam curves, short axle to axle and so on and so on... For many guys who do a ton of 3D or target they are looking to dial up some fast,flat shooting arrows which means shedding some total arrow weight. This is fine but its a good reminder to consider the all important fOC so as not to give up desirable flight characteristics! A fast arrow dont mean jack if she dont fly right!

[xtremearchery]

Some of the less talented but photogenic ones show up in funny places. Go have a look in Stephane's Abby shoot pictures day 1.

Good thing my back was turned to Stephane's camera, my ugly mug could have broken the lens LOL

D*

lol Dave! What is the GPI on the 400 and 500's Guys have been asking. Nice to see you again. Talk soon.

Mark

[Slugman]

I can answer that one for you - 340's 8.9, 400's 7.2 and 500's 6.2

[xtremearchery]

I can answer that one for you - 340's 8.9, 400's 7.2 and 500's 6.2
Thank you. Dave showed me one of your arrows on the weekend. Very nice. I shoot for Victory. My 300 spined arrows are 6.6 gpi. but your 400's I would think would make one hell of a hunting arrow! Keep up the good work!! Talk soon. I am curious on how those babies fly. Keep in touch.

[Slugman]

Every design feature of the Darkhorse Stud Series lends itself to an outstanding hunting arrow. The high gloss finish aids in slick pass throughs, the high mass forward of the arrow ensures not only great penetration but down range accuracy and the Square Weave two part carbon fiber construction produces arrow splitting accuracy/consistencey. I have guys on the team that have harvested every thing from big ol muelys to bison. Jason Peterson of Hunting Canada and Beyond TV show also uses the Studs for his hunting duties and has taken both deer and a cougar late last year! The beauty of producing a quality arrow is the performance speaks for itself, once you shoot them it'll be hard to shoot anything else!