Blackhawk Vapor... troubleshoot me plz :)

[Jiff]

Hi there, i'm stumped yet again.

baught some cheap blackhawk vapors 4000 with 125grain points.

and the arrows are kicking left.


shooting them from both checkmate 50# longbow and samick 45# sage.

drawing at 28" approx.


Can anyone troubleshoot this one for me?

[Bow Walker]

If the arrows are too stiff for your bows they won't be able to flex properly as they pass over/around the bow shelf/riser (archers paradox). This could kick them off the shelf in an undesirable way.

If the arrows are too light, overall, they could be bouncing off the bow when you shoot.

Hard to analyze the problem without seeing you shoot.

[Bowzone_Mikey]

sounds like they are too stiff to me

[Bigbear]

Go to 145 Gr tips that will weaken the spine. I would have used 500 spine shafts Myself.
I have a Chekmate Hunter II @50 Lbs and I use Blackhawk Vapor Carbon woods 500 Spine @29" , and they shoot fantastic.

Carbon Express Heritage 150's work good as well Full Length with 125 Gr tips. 145 Gr if your going to shorten them up .Go to the 250's If your going over 52 Lbs though.

In My opinion the Best way to Spine your Shafts is to Bare shaft Tune. your Arrows. With Traditional Paper tuning is way to Difficult because of so many Variables such as your release, Canter, Anchor point. PM Me if you need help

[Jiff]

ah . yes i think they are too stiff. they were cut down to 29.5"

i'll try adding the 145grain tips to see how well that works.


@Bigbear 500spines at 29" that sounds like the way to go.


hmm there are some cheap easton aluminum arrows i think they're genesis. but they fly really nice. hehe

whats ur take on cheap aluminum arrows? anyone.

[Bow Walker]

You said it - Cheap.

You'll be replacing them pretty quick because they've bent and cannot be straightened anymore.

But - they're good for flinging at rabbits, grouse, squirrels, stumps, etc.

[downsouth204]

I use Easton FMJ's, but any of the Eastons or Beemans with the HIT insert are a good choice as you can buy brass 100 grain inserts, or brass snap off inserts that are 50/75 grain. You get the extra weight up front and makes it easy to tune your arrows. That way you can use whatever broadhead in 100 or 125 grain you want. For my 50@28" Cari-Bow Wolverine, I use 500's cut to 29" with a 100 grain brass insert ground down to 80 grains and a 125 Montec broadhead. I've had good luck with the FMJ's, use them in 340 with regular inserts for my compound as well. I like them cause they're on the heavy side in terms of grains per inch!

[Jiff]

Was down at Dave's outdoor shop in bellingham last night. and picked me up some easton and beman shafts. grab some of those brass rings that u put between the shaft and head, pretty nifty. makes loads of difference in flight stability. :)


I use Easton FMJ's, but any of the Eastons or Beemans with the HIT insert are a good choice as you can buy brass 100 grain inserts, or brass snap off inserts that are 50/75 grain. You get the extra weight up front and makes it easy to tune your arrows. That way you can use whatever broadhead in 100 or 125 grain you want. For my 50@28" Cari-Bow Wolverine, I use 500's cut to 29" with a 100 grain brass insert ground down to 80 grains and a 125 Montec broadhead. I've had good luck with the FMJ's, use them in 340 with regular inserts for my compound as well. I like them cause they're on the heavy side in terms of grains per inch!

[Bow Walker]

Now to practice and get "deadly" with your new purchases :twisted:

Then it's "Watch out! Here I come! :mrgreen: