big ram rumour

[bridger]

there is a rumour going around the local sheep community that one the outfitters took a ram close to 50" and scoring over 185. anyone have any solid info?

[KodiakHntr]

Stone?

Saw some pics in August of a Dall that went well over 50", but that came out of Alaska.

My bad, it went 48"....

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Heard the same thing .....but pictures are lacking.
Until then it's just a rumour.
Boxhitch should be home in a couple of weeks. Maybe we'll find out then....or maybe he'll be sworn to secrecy:?

SSS

[kootenayelkslayer]

Saw some pics in August of a Dall that went well over 50", but that came out of Alaska.

A 50" dall?? Where did you see that? Still have the pictures?

[NaStY]

Ok guys this is a legit thread. No point in high jacking it any further. Start your own if you feel the need please.....

[358mag]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q99/Pole-Lock/SubsistanceRam1.jpg

[sheephunter17]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q99/Pole-Lock/SubsistanceRam1.jpg


holy sheep shit thats what i call a heck of a RAM!

[Brew]

WOW. Thats crazy. are they transplanting marco polo rams here now?

[Casagrande]

I've found my next kitchen colour!

[Alpine85]

I'm sure its not the only sheep of that caliber running around the Wrangell St. Elias National Park. No doubt it is a great subsistence ram though!

[mark]

Looks to be legal by age and length, Id shoot it! :shock:

[blackbart]

Oustanding attributes to both the ram and the details of the photo composition.

With a cork screw like that who the hell cares what colour the kitchen cabinets are!

Anyone know of some of the hunt details - not location, just how it went down. Photo's suggest something different than a rich americano on a guided hunt. I am pretty sure that most of the Safari Club type dudes wouldn't be letting that set of horns parade around without supervision.

[vortex]

Bridger, I also heard the 50" stone rumours through some wranglers that were trailing out from the middle of nowhere last week. The outfitter could use a bit of good luck to balance out some of the bad he's had in his time.

[Alpine85]

Oustanding attributes to both the ram and the details of the photo composition.

With a cork screw like that who the hell cares what colour the kitchen cabinets are!

Anyone know of some of the hunt details - not location, just how it went down. Photo's suggest something different than a rich americano on a guided hunt. I am pretty sure that most of the Safari Club type dudes wouldn't be letting that set of horns parade around without supervision.

It was killed by a hunter who is able to hunt the Wrangell St. Elias National Park for sustenance. Didn't here much on details other then its' right around the 180" mark....

On another note, that guy on the right is a bloody giant.... "outside killing seagalls with a rake"

[Alpine85]

Bridger, I also heard the 50" stone rumours through some wranglers that were trailing out from the middle of nowhere last week. The outfitter could use a bit of good luck to balance out some of the bad he's had in his time.


I heard it was the first ram she ever guided to.

[born2hunt]

heck with the ram lol i want there interior decorator the colours are amazing ROFL,

[vortex]

I heard it was the first ram she ever guided to.
I heard that too. Good on her if the rumours true!:-D

[BromBones]

I'll shit my pants the day a 50'' ram comes into view of my spotting scope.

Hope to have some more details soon

[moose2]

Looks to be legal by age and length, Id shoot it! :shock:

The one on the shed above the horse shoe isn't

[bridger]

Bridger, I also heard the 50" stone rumours through some wranglers that were trailing out from the middle of nowhere last week. The outfitter could use a bit of good luck to balance out some of the bad he's had in his time.


thanks I heard it was supposedly taken from williston lake or the trench. guess if it is actually is a fact the story will come out eventually.

[Brambles]

Nice Ram but Sustinance hunting in a National Park for trophy sheep???? Doesn't sound quite right to me.

[Gateholio]

Nice Ram but Sustinance hunting in a National Park for trophy sheep???? Doesn't sound quite right to me.

I wondered about that but then I figured that it's probbaly better for the overall sheep herd to kill an old fella than one in prime breeding age/condition anyway.

[crazysheephunter]

Remember years ago,there was a status hunter that killed a Record Bighorn at a feeding station along the highway,with a bow,well the CO's and Ministry didnt think that if a person was hunting for sustinance,that there was no need to drive for 3 hours to hunt and kill a record animal,so they took it away, and the city of Salmo actually made a Bronze statue of the animal. I also know of another story of a guy that killed a trophy Muledeer in its winter grounds, and was bragging about his trophy,when apparently he was supposed to be hunting for his daily meal. Im not against hunting for sustinance,just think that they maybe need to sit down and rethink it,maybe females only or imature males.There is always going to be mixed emotions on this subject,and i also think if they are hunting trophy's for sustinance that they should do it the old way, with a traditional style bow/spear,bareback on a horse.

[guest]

If this is a Ram that was killed in a Park, and for sustenance, Big Flippin Deal on it being big!

Yes, an unbelievable specimen.

Proud hunter ........ Why ?

This is no different then shooting a Ram at a feeding station ........ or Book Elk at an Elk Farm.

If this Ram has been taken in a GOS area, or by fair chase on crown land then .... cool, congrats !

CT

[GoatGuy]

The talk is a whopper out of scoop. No pictures though, so it's all just heresay.

[Tank]

Tough to tell by the pics....legal by length for sure. But if he's only 7yrs old he's still a "dink", right?:-D

[d6dan]

Sounds like this Ram was shot in Alaska and is a Dall Sheep.
48" and 15' bases puts him around 182.

http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php/85995-48-Inch-Ram-!-!

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8521043/m/4011006931

[bridger]

the speculasion has now sxpanded to two rams. one in alaska killed by a native sustenance hutner in a nationa park an the other a stone taken in fair chase in the keckika river area.

[vortex]

A friend of mine said he saw pics of the Ketchika ram. Probably not 50" but a beauty none the less. From the pics he guessed 180ish. Apparently taken with a muzzle loader so that may be the "record book #1" type talk.

[bridger]

the rumour is really flying around fort st john sheep hunting circles so far the only thing for sure is that an exceptional ram was taken off the kechika. also know that two booners were taken from the muskwa as well.

[Coming_out_heavy.]

the rumour is really flying around fort st john sheep hunting circles so far the only thing for sure is that an exceptional ram was taken off the kechika. also know that two booners were taken from the muskwa as well.

I think those 2 booners from the Muskwa might be these =). One of the rams belongs to a local FN man who was on a guided hunt, and the other ram I believe was shot by a non resident. Both rams were guided by the same guide, and I "think" they were shot together, but I could be mistaken on that part.

Also, they werent shot on the Muskwa, not far away though.

If anyone ever looks through their spotting scope and sees a man behind a bush making love to himself, its me, and it means I just shot a ram like one of these.

http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy311/Coming_out_heavy/IMG_0901.jpg

[Alpine85]

WOW!!!! amazing looking rams..

[southpaw]

Nice rams. Makes a guy hunt harder knowing there are rams out there like these two. Only one more week.

[Coming_out_heavy.]

Agreed. Its easy to think that all the good rams are shot already, with so much pressure out there. Those big guys still exist, and pics like these are a reminder to stay positive and keep glassing.


Nice rams. Makes a guy hunt harder knowing there are rams out there like these two. Only one more week.

[MattB]

Anyone hear anything about a 45" and 46" stone that a group of 2 got with riverjet off the tuchodi? Sounds pretty incredible if they got 2 rams that big...

[bridger]

haven't heard that one. seems like a lot of big rams have been taken this year.

[newhunterette]

If anyone ever looks through their spotting scope and sees a man behind a bush making love to himself, its me, and it means I just shot a ram like one of these.

http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy311/Coming_out_heavy/IMG_0901.jpg


okay that was just a little bit too much information.:wink:

[Alpine85]

okay that was just a little bit too much information.:wink:

No, a little bit to much information would be what he would do to the ram once it was on the ground. :mrgreen:

[Maxx]

I think those 2 booners from the Muskwa might be these =). One of the rams belongs to a local FN man who was on a guided hunt, and the other ram I believe was shot by a non resident. Both rams were guided by the same guide, and I "think" they were shot together, but I could be mistaken on that part.

Also, they werent shot on the Muskwa, not far away though.

If anyone ever looks through their spotting scope and sees a man behind a bush making love to himself, its me, and it means I just shot a ram like one of these.

http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy311/Coming_out_heavy/IMG_0901.jpg

WOW, Awesome rams....the "drop" of the ram on the right is UNREAL.

[Kody94]

I think those 2 booners from the Muskwa might be these =). One of the rams belongs to a local FN man who was on a guided hunt, and the other ram I believe was shot by a non resident. Both rams were guided by the same guide, and I "think" they were shot together, but I could be mistaken on that part.

Also, they werent shot on the Muskwa, not far away though.

If anyone ever looks through their spotting scope and sees a man behind a bush making love to himself, its me, and it means I just shot a ram like one of these.

http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy311/Coming_out_heavy/IMG_0901.jpg

Those are real purty rams for sure!

[Moose Guide]

Remember years ago,there was a status hunter that killed a Record Bighorn at a feeding station along the highway,with a bow,well the CO's and Ministry didnt think that if a person was hunting for sustinance,that there was no need to drive for 3 hours to hunt and kill a record animal,so they took it away, and the city of Salmo actually made a Bronze statue of the animal. I also know of another story of a guy that killed a trophy Muledeer in its winter grounds, and was bragging about his trophy,when apparently he was supposed to be hunting for his daily meal. Im not against hunting for sustinance,just think that they maybe need to sit down and rethink it,maybe females only or imature males.There is always going to be mixed emotions on this subject,and i also think if they are hunting trophy's for sustinance that they should do it the old way, with a traditional style bow/spear,bareback on a horse.

The bronze was done by Rick Taylor of Kaslo and is actually a 1 1/8 size replica of the world record from Alberta(the actual horns were lost in a house fire) Rick also did the deer at the Edmonton Airport!

[BCrams]

the speculasion has now sxpanded to two rams. one in alaska killed by a native sustenance hutner in a nationa park an the other a stone taken in fair chase in the keckika river area.

Scoop Lake outfitters is the talk of where it came from.

[bridger]

that is the latest scuttlebut alright. be interesting to see when it surfaces.

[whitetailsheds]

Probably not what everyone is looking for but saw a trophy of another kind, the Stones kind.
Pretty heavy (15"bases), full curl (couple inches above the nose), and 7 years old! Yes....seven....
Supposedly 174....
Working on pics!

[Rubicon500]

Well my source was standing there when the scoop lake ram was shot and measured , it was the first ram his daughter ever guided to. I dont know the man personally but he is good friends with a co-worker, neither are sheep nuts so they arent to worried about passing pictures on and probably dont want them plasterd over the net. Indeed it was right around 50 " mark. I was there when he was on the phone with the guy, it was not a misunderstanding or nothing. Alot of people are not into emailing pictures as well, you know how it goes you send it to a friend and next thing you know 20 random people have photos of your trophy.

[Kirby]

Alot of people are not into emailing pictures as well, you know how it goes you send it to a friend and next thing you know 20 random people have photos of your trophy.

And the next thing they know they are being accused of poaching, un-ethical hunting or some other bull shit crap from armchair critics.

Kirby

[huntcoop]

And the next thing they know they are being accused of poaching, un-ethical hunting or some other bull shit crap from armchair critics.

Kirby

Or making the accusation that it has not yet celebrated it's 8th birthday :mrgreen:

[bridger]

the scoop lake story is the one I heard as well. if the ram is that big it won`t be a secret very long.

[boxhitch]

Well my source was standing there when the scoop lake ram was shot and measured , it was the first ram his daughter ever guided to. I dont know the man personally but he is good friends with a co-worker, neither are sheep nuts so they arent to worried about passing pictures on and probably dont want them plasterd over the net. Indeed it was right around 50 " mark. I was there when he was on the phone with the guy, it was not a misunderstanding or nothing. Alot of people are not into emailing pictures as well, you know how it goes you send it to a friend and next thing you know 20 random people have photos of your trophy.Don't eat that, its $hit.
Might want to clarify things with your 'source' and/or the guy on the phone.

[boxhitch]

A friend of mine said he saw pics of the Ketchika ram. Probably not 50" but a beauty none the less. From the pics he guessed 180ish. Apparently taken with a muzzle loader so that may be the "record book #1" type talk.Friends huh ?

[358mag]

Friends huh ?
Welcome back hope you had a good season up "north " sure more than a few storys to be told

[boxhitch]

Bridger, I also heard the 50" stone rumours through some wranglers that were trailing out from the middle of nowhere last week. The outfitter could use a bit of good luck to balance out some of the bad he's had in his time.nowhere creek 50"
sounds familiar

[boxhitch]

Welcome back hope you had a good season up "north " sure more than a few storys to be toldNot much in my camps, decent luck, nice 360ish caribou ( a first for that spot).
Had a nice ram offering from the hunt gods, but the timing was wrong to fill my tag.

[vortex]

nowhere creek 50"
sounds familiar
I guess wranglers along a river 125 miles west of Norman Wells were more in touch with the outside world than I am...

[Deadshot]

Hey, Boxhitch.
Was Rachel the guide?
Just chippin away.:-D

[boxhitch]

She did guide this year, to a nice sheep, and goats and ...
no booners

[bforce750]

My friends just got back two days ago from their Salmo sheep draw,they got a ram that green scores over 190 !!!! It's a hawg,Sorry no pics but if you are at the East Koots big game banquet you will get to see it.

[averagejoe]

My friends just got back two days ago from their Salmo sheep draw,they got a ram that green scores over 190 !!!! It's a hawg,Sorry no pics but if you are at the East Koots big game banquet you will get to see it.


shes a lucky girl thats a big ram. dosnt really look 190. big bases. i have a picture of it. how long is it do you know?

[GoatGuy]

shes a lucky girl thats a big ram. dosnt really look 190. big bases. i have a picture of it. how long is it do you know?

38"..............

[BCrams]

At least the Salmo success will keep the masses applying for that permit.

They earned it by taking a nice ram.

[averagejoe]

what were the bases

[bforce750]

At least the Salmo success will keep the masses applying for that permit.

They earned it by taking a nice ram.

They sure did,I don't know the ecxact measurements of the bases.

[willy442]

Has anyone got a photo of this big Stone yet?

[bridger]

a couple of guys in fsjohn have pics of the big stone ram killed apparently 48 1/2 inches haven't seen dthe pics myself am in kamloops forf knee surgery will track it down when i get home

[dutchie]

a couple of guys in fsjohn have pics of the big stone ram killed apparently 48 1/2 inches haven't seen dthe pics myself am in kamloops forf knee surgery will track it down when i get home

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I wonder if the ram was known to Scoop lake or if they stumbled upon it and there was one lucky hunter...

Or if the guy paid more for the hawg... either way you know Scoop Lakes area is going to be hit hard by hunters if that is the case!

48.5" ram.... wow

Dutchie

[Mountain Man]

The girl who guided her first stone sheep for scoop this year is a friend of mine from Kelowna. She cam out after the season and heard of all theses rumors about her guiding a huge stone !!!She did indeed guide her first sheep kill this fall and its an average ram.

She is very excited of her accomplishments as she has been a wrangler for scoop for a few years and this was her first full season one on one guiding.

She had a great fall. I told her of the rumors on here and told her to join so the information is not second hand.

[willy442]

The girl who guided her first stone sheep for scoop this year is a friend of mine from Kelowna. She cam out after the season and heard of all theses rumors about her guiding a huge stone !!!She did indeed guide her first sheep kill this fall and its an average ram.

She is very excited of her accomplishments as she has been a wrangler for scoop for a few years and this was her first full season one on one guiding.

She had a great fall. I told her of the rumors on here and told her to join so the information is not second hand.

I don't as of yet have the full story on the ram, but should have soon. I do have photo's but have been asked not to publish them on here. I can say one thing the ram was taken and it is BIG<BIG<BIG

[d6dan]

The girl who guided her first stone sheep for scoop this year is a friend of mine from Kelowna. She cam out after the season and heard of all theses rumors about her guiding a huge stone !!!She did indeed guide her first sheep kill this fall and its an average ram.

She is very excited of her accomplishments as she has been a wrangler for scoop for a few years and this was her first full season one on one guiding.

She had a great fall. I told her of the rumors on here and told her to join so the information is not second hand.

I wonder if thats the same girl that SSS and BCRams ran into on their hunt?.:?

[boxhitch]

I wonder if thats the same girl that SSS and BCRams ran into on their hunt?.:?No it isn't

[Stone Sheep Steve]

No it isn't

Party pooper:p. What's wrong with keeping them guessing??:wink:

SSS

[21guns]

what were the bases
17 5/8" bases 40 2/8 long i may have a pic!

[Mountain Man]

I don't as of yet have the full story on the ram, but should have soon. I do have photo's but have been asked not to publish them on here. I can say one thing the ram was taken and it is BIG<BIG<BIG

Are we taliking about the same girl same outfitt :confused:, I do know her she came and told me about her full season. The one she guided by all means is a nice ram but its not huge !!!

[Mountain Man]

I wonder if thats the same girl that SSS and BCRams ran into on their hunt?.:?

No its not I spoke with SSS, similar story. I know of a few women that are sheep guides :-D There on my e-mail list and talk with them often. There not on HBC though. I guess they have better things to then us, lol :wink:

[Mountain Man]

Party pooper:p. What's wrong with keeping them guessing??:wink:

SSS

lol,

Ya no this girl is blonde, good looking and wears chaps and a bikini top when she is working.................hmm lets see what that starts ???

[goatdancer]

lol,

Ya no this girl is blonde, good looking and wears chaps and a bikini top when she is working.................hmm lets see what that starts ???

So where are the pictures?

[proguide66]

lol,

Ya no this girl is blonde, good looking and wears chaps and a bikini top when she is working.................hmm lets see what that starts ???

OK it started lots...now gimmer her email so she can help finnish !!!:twisted::mrgreen:

[budismyhorse]

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/big_stone.jpg


I don't know SFA about this ram......it was a random email.....

[Buck]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Man
lol,

Ya no this girl is blonde, good looking and wears chaps and a bikini top when she is working.................hmm lets see what that starts ???
So where are the pictures?

I concur to hell with the Ram.Wheres the pics

[MattB]

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/big_stone.jpg


I don't know SFA about this ram......it was a random email.....
Last years ram from dueling stone outfitters...

[Deadshot]

lol,

Ya no this girl is blonde, good looking and wears chaps and a bikini top when she is working.................hmm lets see what that starts ???

I had the pleasure this summer.
Short of a full curl, definitely the prettiest thing I've seen in the mountains!
Chaps & a bikini would have f*&ked the entire hunt up.:mrgreen:

[troutseeker]

Chaps are for village people, not mountain people. C'mon guys, get it right!

I say, Young Man, lalala lalala...

[Kody94]

So, why no ram pics and no hot lady guide pics?? Somebody's got to have them besides Willy.

[boxhitch]

Can't pic what didn't happen

[Old Crow]

So how many rams we talking about here? The ''subsistence'' ram from Alaska, a Bighorn from Salmo, a pair from Muskwa, and a Stones from Scoop?
Man, this thread backtracks more than a politician talking about gay rights. :D

[just hunt]

the scoop lake story is the one I heard as well. if the ram is that big it won`t be a secret very long.

So dose anyone have any info on this ram. sure would like to see a pic or two.