Resident Harvest Allocation Policy.

[ROY-alty33]

Should we expect a new harvest allocation policy to come out in the near future with the next synopsis being valid past the expiration of the current H.A.P.?

[jml11]

The current regs will expire in the spring of 2012 prior to the next allocation period. The next allocation period will apply in the 2012-2013 season (so fall of 2012). At least that is how I read it.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/harvest_alloc/docs/HarvestAllocationImplementationPlan.pdf

For all those interested there is a bunch of information of the Harvest Allocation Policy posted on the MoE website now:

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/harvest_alloc/

[bridger]

the next allocation period begins in 2012 and in my opinion unless resident hunters exhibit a great deal of interest and insist on resident priority in the allocation of harvest opportunites this government will give the majority of hunting opportunities to the goabc and their non resident clients. Time to get involved guys. the old axiom of money talks and bull shit walks is true. How are you going to measure up?????

[Buck]

So how is the criteria set ?By number of animals taken by residents or time spent in the field for any given species. i have read a number of these threads and wonder how we are going to keep or achieve a higher allocation how do we get more success especially with sheephunters being so secretive.
I have been on 2 flyin sheep hunts with nothing to show except the experience which was great.I live near Vancouver and trying to recruit backcountry hunters here is a stretch.Most guys around here are very uncomfortable with the notion of true wilderness so how are we going to recruit more new sheephunters?

[boxhitch]

Should we expect a new harvest allocation policy to come out in the near future with the next synopsis being valid past the expiration of the current H.A.P.?
Not sure that the regs have anything to do with the calcs in the HAP.
GOS season lengths are a very general harvest limitation.

[GoatGuy]

Should we expect a new harvest allocation policy to come out in the near future with the next synopsis being valid past the expiration of the current H.A.P.?

There is not a 'new' HAP in 2012, just that the current one is supposed to be implemented by 2012.

Having said that the transition period wasn't followed, rules of engagement were changed midstream, and the policy was not implemented in MOST regions so I wouldn't expect to have the allocation policy implemented by 2012 either.

The way things are going you will see a greater decline in resident hunting opportunity and harvest.

[GoatGuy]

Not sure that the regs have anything to do with the calcs in the HAP.
GOS season lengths are a very general harvest limitation.

Theoretically if one group is under-acheiving (ie residents across most of the province for goats, sheep, grizz, and some regions for moose and in 7b for bison) the regulations are supposed to change to ensure the allocated share is harvested.

On top of that and perhaps more importantly the resident statement says that regulations shall benefit resident hunters first. That implies two things, that hunting seasons are driven by residents within the bounds of conservation and secondly that regulations are not driven for or by outfitters.

Personally don't feel that an area that has access only by horseback with a handful of LEH tags every year, consistently under-utilized by residents doesn't really seem to benefit residents first. Maybe try handing out a couple more as a first step.

Could come up with a couple hundred examples but there's not much sense in it.

[6616]

Not sure that the regs have anything to do with the calcs in the HAP.


There are several situations across the province where regulations restrict resident harvest to the point that residents under-utilize their share. If MOE does not address this by revising regulations as per policy, which in most cases they haven't, these regs will then impact the calculation of the residents "degree of utilization" in the overall calculation process (see link), which in turn will result in lower allocation percentages for residents and higher allocation percentages for non-residents.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/harvest_alloc/docs/HarvestAllocationProcedure.pdf

Over time and a couple allocation periods if under-utilization by residents is not addressed through regulations, the resident allocation percentages will ratchet down until they bottom out at the minimum percentages of 70% for moose, elk, caribou and deer, and 60% for goats sheep and grizz.

So in the end Bill, regulations do indirectly have an impact on allocation calculations.

[6616]

Should we expect a new harvest allocation policy to come out in the near future with the next synopsis being valid past the expiration of the current H.A.P.?

The policy will not change but the percentages will be recalculated for the 2012 - 2017 period.