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turtle7
05-08-2010, 07:10 PM
i just got a bow madness XL

What shud i do to it? http://www.fieldandstream.com/files/imagecache/photo-article/gear/23/PSEBowMadness.jpg

Bow Walker
05-08-2010, 07:27 PM
D-loop, Peep sight Rest, Sight, Bo-Jax string silencers, Release, practice, practice, practice.























Then sell it for a Bowtech or a Diamond. :wink: :-D

turtle7
05-08-2010, 07:42 PM
what kind of rests are good?
and what is a good release?

hardnocks
05-08-2010, 07:54 PM
good choice !! my personal favorite rest is a trophy taker . they just work and are trouble free

Bowzone_Mikey
05-08-2010, 11:09 PM
I have a Trophy taker on my Hunting Bow, I have used and liked Whisker Bisquits, the new ones are in line with the Berger hole and are sweet and simple to set up to make your bow squared up , I really liked the APA twister, I shouldnt have sold that when I sold the bow it was on, depends on what you want ... containment? fallaway, prong?

Releases... as personal as your opinions ... I use a Carter Hunter hand held ... Tru fire makes many good ones, Scott makes alot of good ones , the Mongoose comes to mind, If I were to go back to a wrist strap exclusivly I would go with a Carter "Like Mike"

Nice Bow .... Leave the Bow Jax off tho ... the agresive nature of your new bow will beat the hell out of them ... you wont quiet it down much more than what it is with the string stopper .... if its still loud for your liking ... try a heavier arrow 1-2 grains per pound will make a ton of differance when it comes to bow noise.

killman
05-08-2010, 11:35 PM
i just got a bow madness XL

What shud i do to it? http://www.fieldandstream.com/files/imagecache/photo-article/gear/23/PSEBowMadness.jpg

You could just send it to me!:mrgreen:

Nice I was fondling one like it today.

The Dawg
05-08-2010, 11:37 PM
You could just send it to me!:mrgreen:

Nice I was fondling one like it today.

That answers my question ...lol...I was gonna ask if Len came down..

Bow Walker
05-09-2010, 09:56 AM
what kind of rests are good?
and what is a good release?
Are you going to be hunting/3D or just target? Like Mikey said - full containment? prongs? fall away? Each are good. Each have their own pros and cons.

I use an APA Safari Twister (http://www.apaarchery.com/arrow-rests-twister.html (http://www.apaarchery.com/arrow-rests-twister.html)) I have one on my hunting bow and another on my target bow. I find them to be the best of both when I want containment (for hunting) and fall away (for target).

Although QAD also makes a great rest. If I were to switch, it would be to this one. http://www.qadinc.com/c-5-.aspx (http://www.qadinc.com/c-5-.aspx)

As for releases - well you got to try a few to see what woks for you and what you like. I've tried a lot. I have settled on the Jim Fletcher line of releases. http://www.fletcherarchery.com/prd_all.html (http://www.fletcherarchery.com/prd_all.html)

I've settled on the Fletch Hook for both target and hunting. It's (in my opinion) the easiest to use. I've tried (and like) the Fletchunter Shorty, the 3D Hunter, and the Flathead. I use the Fletchunter Shorty as a back up to my two Fletch Hooks. Yeah I know, overkill - but what the hell.

When it come to sights - I really like two brands - Trophy Ridge http://www.trophyridge.com/sights/V5/ (http://www.trophyridge.com/sights/V5/) specifically their Micro Alpha V-5.

My other choice is Spot Hogg. http://spot-hogg.com/products/bow_sights/index.php (http://spot-hogg.com/products/bow_sights/index.php) I like (and currently use) their Real Deal sight, but I would really like to have a Hogg-It. Either their Hunter Hogg-It or their Hogg-It. The Spot Hogg sights are one of the toughest sights that are out there. Get the "small guard" size sights. They are much easier to use and sight thru your peep.

mcrae
05-09-2010, 10:04 AM
I am shooting the PSE AXE 6 and the Limbdriver is working really well with my bow.

I was a Bowtech guy and on a whim I decided to try the PSE Axe 6 and I ended up going home with it....

turtle7
06-09-2010, 06:15 PM
http://www.vanhandle.com/HomeforDeathGrip.html


And what do you think of this grip?

Bowzone_Mikey
06-09-2010, 06:30 PM
Tried one .. wasnt a big fan ... my hands didnt like it ... that said i hold alot differantly than most hunters I know ... I hold my bow like a target shooter ... does in all cases ...this product is designed in my opinion for those that actually hold the grip of the bow

Bow Walker
06-09-2010, 08:51 PM
When I first started out shooting a bow I was shooting a PSE Mojave. It had a (for its time) fairly small grip on it but I just couldn't get used to the thing.

I went back to Boorman's and asked Chuck about getting a larger grip put on the bow (I've got pretty big hands). Chuck said that he wouldn't want me to waste my money and that I should work on getting used to the original PSE bow grip.

It was small for a reason, he said. A small grip decreases the chances of torquing the bow during the shot. I took his advice and got used to it. Now I have a 2006 Diamond Liberty for a hunting bow - slim type grip. I also have a Hoyt Vectrix XL for a target bow - has side plates instead of a grip.

I wish now that I could have the Hoyt side plates on my Diamond hunting bow. Those side plates let me cradle the bow without torquing it what-so-ever. They're great.

Don't be in too much of a rush to change things.

turtle7
06-09-2010, 09:44 PM
thank you thats good Food for thought. :)

turtle7
06-14-2010, 11:29 PM
http://www.trophyridge.com/sights/V5/

for the sight

http://www.qadinc.com/pc-30-5-ultra-rest-pro-series-hd-price-shown-is-for-black-model-picture-shown-in-realtreeap-camo.aspx

For my rest

http://spot-hogg.com/products/releases/wiseguy/index.php

i think this is the start of my bow

thank you for the help:-D

Bow Walker
06-15-2010, 07:48 AM
Excellent choices (imo). My buddy uses the Alpha Micro V5 and he just loves it. In fact, that's the one that I'd like to get too.

Van Handle
06-30-2010, 09:48 AM
Tried one .. wasnt a big fan ... my hands didnt like it ... that said i hold alot differantly than most hunters I know ... I hold my bow like a target shooter ... does in all cases ...this product is designed in my opinion for those that actually hold the grip of the bow


Mikey
I am interested in knowing where you tried one.

Bowzone_Mikey
06-30-2010, 10:34 AM
Mikey
I am interested in knowing where you tried one.

It came on a second hand bow that I bought out of the states ..That I planned to hunt with..

All my bows (13 compounds over the last 6 years 15 since 2000) I use either bare riser or side plates (factory or custom depending on the manufacturer)

Bow Walker
06-30-2010, 02:57 PM
Those 'Death Grips' look like they are trying to fill your hand with grip. Not really a good idea, since a large, thick grip can induce torque more readily than a thinner, narrower grip can.

Of course the grip needs to be placed in the hand properly to perform well......right down the natural valley between thumb and index finger is the (and has been) the popular method of choice.

"Grip" is not really a good term here, as the bow-hand should not actually grip the bow. It should just support the bow - not inducing any sort of twist, or torque, or tilt to the bow what-so-ever.

Don't worry about hanging on to the bow. The pressure of a fully drawn bow (against your hand) will keep the riser firmly seated all through out the draw/shot cycle.

Bowzone_Mikey
06-30-2010, 07:07 PM
the Grip actually kinda floats over the riser ... from the best I could tell before it became landfill ...it had focal point that it pivoted on ... the idea I think was you could set your hand with it clamped around the bow ... like a 14 year old boy holding breasts for the first time... and the bow would pivot a bit to stay in line with the draw ....

I personally found it cumbersome and a PITA with my open low wrist hold

Bow Walker
06-30-2010, 08:41 PM
I agree about the P.I.T.A. bit...

If a shooter were to learn (and practice/use) the correct way to hold and shoot a compound all it needs is a thin, insulating 'grip' or side plates.

Personally I love the side plates on my Hoyt Vectrix and wish they were on my diamond Liberty hunting bow.

Van Handle
07-05-2010, 01:40 PM
Those 'Death Grips' look like they are trying to fill your hand with grip. Not really a good idea, since a large, thick grip can induce torque more readily than a thinner, narrower grip can.

Of course the grip needs to be placed in the hand properly to perform well......right down the natural valley between thumb and index finger is the (and has been) the popular method of choice.

"Grip" is not really a good term here, as the bow-hand should not actually grip the bow. It should just support the bow - not inducing any sort of twist, or torque, or tilt to the bow what-so-ever.

Don't worry about hanging on to the bow. The pressure of a fully drawn bow (against your hand) will keep the riser firmly seated all through out the draw/shot cycle.
The Death Grip could be 4 ft wide and it still would not torque the bow. You can put your hand on the grip any way you would like. The thing you must understand about "The Death Grip " is that it does not help to reduce torque. It eliminates it all together.

J_T
07-05-2010, 02:12 PM
If you're hunting with it, I recommend taking the International Bowhunter Education (IBEP) Program. Just enhance the hunter skills you have and develop some new ones, unique to bowhunting.

Bow Walker
07-05-2010, 02:47 PM
I'm sorry - I seriously doubt that a grip on a bow can "eliminate torque altogether".

Come on now. :roll:

Tug on the other one - this leg is getting a bit sore. :wink:

Van Handle
07-05-2010, 08:35 PM
I'm sorry - I seriously doubt that a grip on a bow can "eliminate torque altogether".

Come on now. :roll:

Tug on the other one - this leg is getting a bit sore. :wink:

Yes I said completely eliminate. That means 100%, Zero, Nothing, Nada and I don't mean 99.9% I said 100% and I mean 100%. I don't know how to make it any clearer than that. It is a wonderful product that does exactly what we claim. A rarity in the archery business.

Bow Walker
07-06-2010, 09:31 AM
A rarity indeed. :wink:

OK. Enough of the free advertising. You can have your thread back turtle7 :-D