new honey hole discovery

[brock77]

whent for a hike yesterday to have a look at the new found honey hole. Found this last year up behind the house, another 45 min walk from the front door.When we found this wallow last year the trees aound it, had mud about 4-5 feet up the trunks and probably 4-5 inches thick, the ground was tore right up. When we whent back yesterday we took a walk around the bush and found these rubs that are 60-75 yards from the wallow. these rubs are all in about a 35-45 yard diameter, this place is going to be crazy this year glad we gound it. The second pics is the mudy tress. All the mud has fallen off now, but you can see were the mud has stained the trees a darker colour, third pics is all the rubs ooooohhhh eeeeeeeee thers is lots. going to make some natuall ground blid/coverage, the trees are to skinny for a tree stand.
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1691.JPG
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1693.jpg
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1695.JPG
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1698.JPG
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1699.JPG

[ElkMasterC]

Nice! I'll be on the other side of the hill, so call me if you need help with that one! ;-)
EMC

[gutpile]

Looks very promising !

[hunter1947]

Thats the way to do it scouting elk areas early http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif can only improve your success later this year..

[tracker]

Those are not elk rubs!!! Looks like a porkupine to me....:mrgreen:

[BCrams]

whent for a hike yesterday to have a look at the new found honey hole. Found this last year up behind the house, another 45 min walk from the front door.When we found this wallow last year the trees aound it, had mud about 4-5 feet up the trunks and probably 4-5 inches thick, the ground was tore right up. When we whent back yesterday we took a walk around the bush and found these rubs that are 60-75 yards from the wallow. these rubs are all in about a 35-45 yard diameter, this place is going to be crazy this year glad we gound it. The second pics is the mudy tress. All the mud has fallen off now, but you can see were the mud has stained the trees a darker colour, third pics is all the rubs ooooohhhh eeeeeeeee thers is lots. going to make some natuall ground blid/coverage, the trees are to skinny for a tree stand.
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1691.JPG
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1693.jpg
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1695.JPG
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1698.JPG
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1699.JPG

Sorry to disapoint you but those are not 'rubs'. More likely moose (maybe elk) feeding on the bark on those trees.

I'd still pay attention to the wallow though.

[hunter1947]

You are correct BCrams http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif,ether elk or moose eating what they can when winters are hard to find food but the wallow is a different story..

[ufishifish2]

Moose eating over the winter. Nothing to do with rubs.........
All that really matters is that the area feels like magic to you.

[brock77]

thanks bcrams, thats what we had thought but wasn't to sure . Wasn't sure what to call them when i posted, but there are other "actuall rubs" in the area took pics of these as were not sure on what they were, there is quit a bit of these and actually alot of moose droppings in the area

[Fisher-Dude]

Sorry to disapoint you but those are not 'rubs'. More likely moose (maybe elk) feeding on the bark on those trees.

I'd still pay attention to the wallow though.

Yep. I can tell by the bite marks that this will be a 2x2 immy bull this year. :wink:

[mark]

thanks bcrams, thats what we had thought but wasn't to sure . Wasn't sure what to call them when i posted, but there are other "actuall rubs" in the area took pics of these as were not sure on what they were, there is quit a bit of these and actually alot of moose droppings in the area

Ive seen lots of people make the same mistake over the years!
2 dead giveaways in the pics.....

1- rubs have shaven bark hanging near the top and bottom of the rubbed area as well on the ground at the base!

2 - All the little branches inbetween the larger stalks would of been busted off, and scattered around!

That was certainly the work of a moose eating the bark! :-D

I was laughing at the first few replies till Rams spoke up!:lol:

[brock77]

Yep. I can tell by the bite marks that this will be a 2x2 immy bull this year. :wink:

well if you can tell that by the bite marks, then damn yous good:wink:
but bring on jimmy the immy, bang flop moose in the freezer

[ElkMasterC]

To be fair, some are rubs. Go easy on the guy. ;-)
The wide shot with all the chunks out are bites, but the 2" thickets roughed up with shavings at the base are rubs.
Damn, looks like a 700 pound beaver went thru there.
Speaking of 700 lb beavers, I'm late for my date.

[deerstocker]

Those are not elk rubs!!! Looks like a porkupine to me ------- tracker i agree

[mark]

To be fair, some are rubs. Go easy on the guy. ;-)
The wide shot with all the chunks out are bites, but the 2" thickets roughed up with shavings at the base are rubs.
Damn, looks like a 700 pound beaver went thru there.
Speaking of 700 lb beavers, I'm late for my date.

Were all entitled to our opinions i suppose, but I strongly disagree!
If a elk or a moose did that with their rack there would be no little branches left on them 2" stalks!
I cant see any shavings on the ground either??? :confused:

Like I said EMC common rookie mistake :wink:

[brock77]

we knew that they were not elk rubs, but were unsure of what the markings would be caused by. I knew if i posted them here someone would be able to piont me in the right direction.
Where there are actuall rubs ie on the pine trees there is no bark or branches of any kind except for the last two feet of the trees. There is lots of actuall rubs around the area from the elk during the rut/removing their velvet. These bite marks are all at the same height on all the trees in the pics,

[brock77]

The fourth pic looks like rubs to me but that means nothing according to the experts on here (and us Islanders know nothing and are resented province wide by many members on this site) so I don't know why I even bothered to post:confused:.

Thanks for sharing your photos with us brock77. I enjoy photos like that of folks outings and experiences etc.:-D.


everyone has there own opinion like mark said but..... anyways i'm going to be putting up a trail camera and hopefully get some very nice pics, as me and my hunting partner know of some big bulls that hang around up there. ooohhhhhh yyyyaaaaa:mrgreen:

[Lord of Gastown]

Were all entitled to our opinions i suppose, but I strongly disagree!
If a elk or a moose did that with their rack there would be no little branches left on them 2" stalks!
I cant see any shavings on the ground either??? :confused:

Like I said EMC common rookie mistake :wink:


Picture four is most likely a rub. Can't tell without being there.
If a moose or elk was hungry so much, he would browse all little buds on those bushes, not chew the bark off.
What you say makes no sense. No offence to you.
There are many rookie here I see.

[tracker]

Definantley not elk or moose eating bark,,, Porkupine all the ayw boy's..

[hunter1947]

When we where setting traps out a couple weeks ago we saw bite makes on alder trees from Roosevelt's so Roosevelt's do eat bark in the winter time ,ether they eat it or are sharpening there teeth by doing this ????.

I will try to remember to take a pic of the trees they did this on tomorrow when we pull our traps...

[brock77]

Okay so i found some things on the net, 1st pics is porcupine, 2nd pics is of moose eating bark.
I see what tracker is talking about, look very similar to each other. The pics that i took are like the second one here just much bigger, the porcupine markings have much smaller teeth marks than the ones in my pics. I don't have a close up of the bite marks, but the teeth marks are huge. hhmmm learn something new every day, did you know that moose eating tree bark is called "moose browse"
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/0620_11_1_.jpg
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/Kay_aspen2_1_.jpg

[hunter1947]

Okay so i found some things on the net, 1st pics is porcupine, 2nd pics is of moose eating bark.
I see what tracker is talking about, look very similar to each other. The pics that i took are like the second one here just much bigger, the porcupine markings have much smaller teeth marks than the ones in my pics. I don't have a close up of the bite marks, but the teeth marks are huge. hhmmm learn something new every day, did you know that moose eating tree bark is called "moose browse"
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/0620_11_1_.jpg
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/Kay_aspen2_1_.jpg

You can defiantly see the difference in the teeth marks..

[ufishifish2]

Now that sounds like a well educated opinion, of which I strongly agree. If anyone thinks that second picture isn't from a moose, they need to give their head a good hard shake!!!

[CanuckShooter]

Now that sounds like a well educated opinion, of which I strongly agree. If anyone thinks that second picture isn't from a moose, they need to give their head a good hard shake!!!

The common saskwatch will leave the same marks when browsing on trees:mrgreen: if you think they could only be from a moose you should give your head ashake!!:-D

[brock77]

Not to add more fuel to the fire fellas,hehe but here is another pics from the areahttp://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1696.JPG
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1694.JPG

[eastkoot]

Ya, moose shit!!!

[BCrams]

Definantley not elk or moose eating bark,,, Porkupine all the ayw boy's..

Nope, sorry!

EMC - no rubs on those alders either. They're chew marks likely from the same animal (likely moose) that chewed the aspen beside it.

[Fisher-Dude]

Not to add more fuel to the fire fellas,hehe but here is another pics from the area
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/HPIM1694.JPG


Ya, moose shit!!!

Nope, I dropped a box of chocolate coated almonds while shed hunting in Fernie. Brock, feel free to eat them.

[ufishifish2]

The common saskwatch will leave the same marks when browsing on trees:mrgreen: if you think they could only be from a moose you should give your head ashake!!:-D

I'm always shaking my head, but it's normally from reading a few of these posts. I am always happy when others are interested and asking questions, just sometimes get frustrated when so many incorrect opinions are given. But that's life and I can suck it up. It's fun being here!!

[mark]

Picture four is most likely a rub. Can't tell without being there.
If a moose or elk was hungry so much, he would browse all little buds on those bushes, not chew the bark off.
What you say makes no sense. No offence to you.
There are many rookie here I see.

Wow, good luck in your future hunting trips.... your going to need it!


Nope, sorry!

EMC - no rubs on those alders either. They're chew marks likely from the same animal (likely moose) that chewed the aspen beside it.

Its good to see Im not the only one who knows what Im talking about!

People..... I tried to be really nice about this but some dont seem to get it!
There is nothing in any pics in this thread, that were made by antlers!!!

Some of you should spend more time in the bush and less in cyber-drama-space!!!!

[brock77]

Nope, I dropped a box of chocolate coated almonds while shed hunting in Fernie. Brock, feel free to eat them.

thanks fisher dude for leaving those tasty almonds, they taste like shit:mrgreen::wink:HAHAHA LOL i love this site.

[ufishifish2]

[/quote] There is nothing in any pics in this thread, that were made by antlers!!!

Some of you should spend more time in the bush and less in cyber-drama-space!!!![/quote]

X2 - thanks Mark.

[tracker]

No kidding moose eat bark,they bite and peel the bark,but those are clearly from a porkupine ... not from a buck toothed moose :mrgreen: Ok maybe a few moose chew marks there :wink:

[Caribou_lou]

No kidding moose eat bark,they bite and peel the bark,but those are clearly from a porkupine ... not from a buck toothed moose :mrgreen: Ok maybe a few moose chew marks there :wink:

I have to dissagree Tracker. Those are from moose. We have trees all over town that look like this. If it was from Porkupines, I think our local vet would be retired by now.

[tracker]

ok I give just moose eat tree's....:mrgreen:

[ufishifish2]

Okay Tracker you wiseass, I will spell it out for you. :) As a general rule of thumb, porcupines eat the cambium layer of young approx 20-30 year old Lodgepole Pine trees. The Moose generally eat larger trees and seem to normally prefer Trembling Aspen.
Also, the Porcupines normally eat the bottom 2-3 feet of the tree, whereas the moose normally eat the 3-6 foot section.

[hunter1947]

As I promised here are some tress that Roosevelt's have chewed on this winter.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/Picture_0972.jpg (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=18504)

[hunter1947]

Here is another pic of a tree that had been eaten from a Roosevelt elk..

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/Picture_103.jpg (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=18507&size=big&cat=500)