Coyotes

[ElkMasterC]

Why do we shoot them?

Are they not great at controlling prairie dog populations? Mice, rats, voles?
Aren't they a net benefit to ranchers? Even giving the odd predation, don't they pay for themselves in hay lost, legs broken by cattle and horses?
If you say "Because they kill Elk, or they kill so many deer." then alright, back it up with facts.
I'm putting together a coyote shooting rig, and I was wondering about the philosophy of it.
Keep it factual, please, not "Cuz I can", or "Cuz it's legal" or "They're varmints, Dagnabbit".
It's a long winter. Let's talk.

[gibblewabble]

Because................they are a complementary species, their population increases directly with us. The number of coyotes I see around town and just outside of town are incredible and they are brazen enough to take our pets and be a general nuisance. There was a report this year of a yote going after a kid on Okanagan landing and its fun so.........my name is Jason and I am addicted to shooting yotes:wink:

[pete_k]

Yes. I hear you. They certainly do alot of cleaning up. I too questioned if I should go out after a few. The canine sense of smell is supposed to be 1000 times better than human. They can sniff out fawns which are not supposed to have a scent. I don't know the facts on fawn mortality from yotes, but it's probably fairly common.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/peterbabine/tcyotefawn.jpg

[ElkMasterC]

You, Sir are drier than a Popcorn fart in August.
Where'd you get that pic?
One of your own?
I see it was taken May 30 2009, if the clock on the trail cam is right.

[fumder]

that is a good sized yote...

personally, i have lost too many dogs to packs of coyotes. i don't actively hunt them, yet, but if i come across one when my hunt is over, i won't think twice about blasting it.

[CanuckShooter]

My grandfather got lost while out hunting just outside Merritt...he died of hypothermia, and the coyotes ate his fingers and face off.:( I killed every coyote I saw for years after that....a good enough reason for me.

[FLHTCUI]

They are a cunning and elusive game animal.
That is why I will try and shoot one if given the opportunity.
Some are born to hunt others are born to trying to learn....
Rob

[Gateholio]

There is no conservation concern, therefore no reason NOT to hunt them.

[Darwin]

Normaly I wouldn't bother but if I saw any near are home or anywere we wer camping then "Yes" They have gotten alot braver and seem to have lost fear of people. With the atacks and problems I have herd the last few year then If I cross ones path I would more then likely shoot.

[Gunner]

In my area they are murder on fawns in the spring,they also keep the pheasant populations at the brink around here.The farmers don't like them around during the calving period as well.They will eliminate the fox population in any area that they are dominant in,and are really only controlled in areas where wolves are the dominant canine.Plus they are a challenge to hunt during the winter,at a time when the only other thing to do is watch the watered down NHL! That's good enough for me! Gunner

[Triggerman]

I think you should leave them alone and ponder the morality for years to come.

That will allow us dedicated Coyoye afficiandos to continue our quest for our Varmint Zen moment(s).

[savage30-06]

On the last day of duck hunting season,my friend got charged by a coyote, he shot it four times knocking it over on all three shots and it kept comming at him until the fourth shot he hit it in the belly and it ran down a trail. We followed the huge amount of blood leading into a huge wall of thorn bushes and could not recover it.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Last two animals left on this world will be cockroaches and coyotes.

SSS

[papaken]

I was just talking to a friend who had to scare a pair off that were stalking his dad's dog the other day. Told him to give me a call and maybe we can ambush them sometime.

[308Lover]

I'd never shoot a coyote "in the wilderness". Ladner marsh, downtown Vancouver or on the farm in calving season is a different story,apparently.
Someone killed a coyote pup in the middle of a road in a cutblock area. A father and his young son arrived as I did and they dragged the pup into the ditch. I'm sure his young son was impressed at the hunting skill that demonstrated.

[Triggerman]

"Last two animals left on this world will be cockroaches and coyotes."

and Cher.....

[boxhitch]

Most everyone does something that allows them to sleep better at night.
The thrill of the hunt
Rifle/bullet evaluation
A challenge to match wits
To save a few fawns or lambs
Better to hunt than to regret not

[ruger#1]

We shoot them because they have killed off all the red fox and have bought the pheasant and grouse populations down. They also like to kill cats and dogs.

[Mr. Dean]

- Yotes are runnin' RAMPANT right now - It's your DUTY, as a Conservationist, too go out there and fly fur!

- There are reasons for the three letters; "NBL". Just accept it for what it is and forget rationale.

- It's part of your obligation when you signed your Hunting License, to act as a "Steward of the Land". GO GO GOOOO!


nuff said.

[FLHTCUI]

"Last two animals left on this world will be cockroaches and coyotes."

and Cher.....
I beg to differ... the last two scum will be lawyers and politicians.
Rob

[nolan-sawka]

The Rushhhhhh!!!

[MattW]

I'm right in the Lower Mainland and when we pasture our dairy animals in the summer we've lost a fair few to coyotes. Not healthy cattle, but if they get a little stuck or calve out at night and have a hard time the coyotes don't take long to find them and will come within a few hundred feet of the yard to get them. The costs add up. At the moment we have fewer coyotes but the ones around have mange so bad I feel like I'm doing them a favour when I shoot them. It's also great practice for hunting. season.

[pete_k]

So much work to deal with the pelts though. Who wants a mangey coyote hide? Law says you have to keep it does'nt it? What do you do with them?

[Stone Sheep Steve]

So much work to deal with the pelts though. Who wants a mangey coyote hide? Law says you have to keep it does'nt it? What do you do with them?

Actually the law states that of furbearing animals "the hide must be removed to the person's normal dwelling place or a taixidermist, tanner, or a fur trader". What you do with it there is only your own business.

SSS

[MattW]

So much work to deal with the pelts though. Who wants a mangey coyote hide? Law says you have to keep it does'nt it? What do you do with them?
I've developed a revolutionary new way of preserving mangey hides that takes no effort whatsoever, unfortunately results have been quite poor so far.

[bridger]

read the post on idaho wolves and understand that coyotes have a similiar effect on deer. here in the peace it is common to see coyotes huntng deer on the peace breaks during the winter and common to see them dragging fawns out of alfalfa fields in the spring.

[GoatGuy]

Most of the research I've seen shows you don't really control the population through what is termed 'recreational' hunting - same as wolves. Some of it shows you can have an effect if the harvest is timed right around fawning. Most of that was out of a helicopter if I remember correctly.

[pete_k]

I've developed a revolutionary new way of preserving mangey hides that takes no effort whatsoever, unfortunately results have been quite poor so far.

OK, let's hear it.

[MattW]

OK, let's hear it.
Well, I was joking with you, you're actually the first person to ever question me on shooting a mangy coyote. In all seriousness when I say mangy I mean absolutely no hair left and skin that looks like they've already been dead for a week, also basically a walking skeleton, when I said that I felt that I was doing them a favour I was not joking as I believe I'm saving them from a lingering and painful death. Their hides are useless obviously. I've always assumed that anyone that happened upon the situation would see it my way. I probably should not have posted on it in the first place, I didn't think anyone would have any questions about the hides.

[pete_k]

Well, I was joking with you, you're actually the first person to ever question me on shooting a mangy coyote. In all seriousness when I say mangy I mean absolutely no hair left and skin that looks like they've already been dead for a week, also basically a walking skeleton, when I said that I felt that I was doing them a favour I was not joking as I believe I'm saving them from a lingering and painful death. Their hides are useless obviously. I've always assumed that anyone that happened upon the situation would see it my way. I probably should not have posted on it in the first place, I didn't think anyone would have any questions about the hides.

Oh, I was'nt really questioning you on shooting a mangey yote. I was expecting a type of joke about revolutionary new method http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif. Just what the heck to do with the damn thing. I certainly have no problem with it, but I just want to stay above board.

According to the regs. I can take the hide home. From there I can toss it in the garbage bin. Someone tell me if that is a no-no.

[yukon john]

According to the regs. I can take the hide home. From there I can toss it in the garbage bin. Someone tell me if that is a no-no.[/quote]

As far as I know you are correct, but then the wording is similiar when talking about meat, (only has to be removed to your residence, meat cutter etc) so can you bring home....say black bear meat and then throw it away? Sorry for the total hijack

[Surrey Boy]

Admitting that you throw away part of a killed animal is akin to admitting you let your truck idle or that you put recycleables in the garbage or that you notice when a cute girl walks by. It happens, there's nothing wrong with it, but don't admit to it.

[Gateholio]

According to the regs. I can take the hide home. From there I can toss it in the garbage bin. Someone tell me if that is a no-no.

As far as I know you are correct, but then the wording is similiar when talking about meat, (only has to be removed to your residence, meat cutter etc) so can you bring home....say black bear meat and then throw it away? Sorry for the total hijack[/quote]


yes, it's legsal

[duckhunt]

because 220 swift and nosler ballistic tip told me they need to hunt mr coyote. :twisted:

[peashooter]

some people actually like and use the coats. i saw a cool blanket made out of a few thick yote jackets on here not too long ago.

[ElkMasterC]

My new Coyote Fur Coat is gonna go nice with my new sealskin boots.

Hope to have pics of my rig up soon (when the bipod gets here) and some Swamp Dawgs soon after!
While the pelts are prime! I need a few pelts to tan up before I head to the tropics. Summer Yotes just don't look near as good.
I forgot about the foxes...another good reason...thx for all the responses!

Another question, whilst I have your attention: Calls.

What do you use and how?

[ruger#1]

Use a turkey feather and some string and a three foot long stick. Rig it up so the feather blows around in the wind. Then use a hawk screech or a fawn bleat. And your good to go.

[gibblewabble]

I have an old wounded rabbit call and it works every time.....well as long as they are within ear shot. I really like the idea of using the feather, they have excellent eye sight so something to distract them would be awesome.

[sfire436]

What are your thoughts on .22 for yotes? Too little? Its either that or my .3oo wm.

[ElkMasterC]

So the damn Bipod finally showed up in the damn mail.
Here's my damn problem:

I took the screw out that's in the stock already, in order to mount the bipod mounting screw:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj313/Heliox18/P2120466.jpg

And took the base apart to screw in the mounting screw for the Bipod base, here they are side by side with all the accoutrements:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj313/Heliox18/P2120468.jpg

It seems like a nicely built piece of eqpt, and I'm pleased, but the threads are smooth in gunstock most of the way in, so the much shorter threads in the pic don't bite. Am I missing something?

The only things I can think of are to take the original screw, and knock out the one on the bipod mount, and try to pin that in to the swivel mount.
Unless: there's a screw that will fill in, with a cap that's threaded, so I can put the filler screw in, and then thread the bipod mounting screw into that.
Might be 3/32, coarse thread.
Any ideas?

[ElkMasterC]

Well I'm off to the PoCo Range.
Maybe one of the Picatinny Princesses there knows something.
Doubt it though. The Black Gun Geeks only seem to know when the next Black Gun is coming out, whether or not it's Restricted, and where to buy Faux SWAT gear, but heeeeeeeeeres hoping!
(Oh I forgot; They also know how well Cialis works. Didn't wanna forget anyone)
;-)

[ruger#1]

If you are on the farm and protecting animals , Then i would throw the mangie thing in the shit pit. And if anyone would like to look at them, Then i will lend you some snorkels.

[RiverOtter]

Last two animals left on this world will be cockroaches and coyotes.



White tails, you forgot White tails......:mrgreen:

[wolverine]

For me, I shoot them to help keep them off the new born calves this time of year.

[Dannybuoy]

some people actually like and use the coats. i saw a cool blanket made out of a few thick yote jackets on here not too long ago.
Like this one ? http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii308/Dannybuoy_bucket/DSCF0584-1.jpg
I havent shot at yotes for a quite a few years now , I used to skin and scrape etc then send them to Van fur auction , had a few sewed together for a rug (tanned)