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Rainforest hunter
01-12-2010, 08:10 PM
Does anyone know the land boundary for entering a record book blacktail ?

BearStump
01-12-2010, 08:14 PM
what do you mean "land boundary" a blacktail is a blacktail where ever you find it.

Ozone
01-12-2010, 08:16 PM
Hi and welcome. It is costumary for a new person to tell us a joke before we answer any questions.

Rainforest hunter
01-12-2010, 08:18 PM
Yes but in certain areas they aren't pure blacktails so there are boundarys for the record books. To far East and there is Mule influnce. Just wondering if anyone knows the mountain range or highway.

Sitkaspruce
01-12-2010, 08:29 PM
what do you mean "land boundary" a blacktail is a blacktail where ever you find it.

Actually that is not correct. I shot a 4x4 BT buck in Princeton quite a few years ago. Was good body size, but when it was pointed out that it had a pure black hair tail, we classed it has a hybrid BT/Mulie cross:mrgreen::wink:. Will try to find the picts, but that might be wishfull thinking. This would still be classified as a mulie due to it location of kill.

Rainforest Hunter.

You might want to get a hold of the BC record books/B&C or MOE and ask them. Of course there probably is someone on here who will know.

Any picts of the "Book" buck?? or did I miss it earlier.......

Cheers

SS

d6dan
01-12-2010, 08:31 PM
Yes but in certain areas they aren't pure blacktails so there are boundarys for the record books. To far East and there is Mule influnce. Just wondering if anyone knows the mountain range or highway.

Get ahold of Gatehouse. He knows the boundary lines..:)

Gateholio
01-12-2010, 08:32 PM
Go to the Boone and Crockett website. They talk about the boundaries on there.

Ozone
01-12-2010, 08:38 PM
I know for the VI record book it must be off the VI and not the surounding ones.

BearStump
01-12-2010, 08:45 PM
here, this should solve the problem. Ya learn something new every day. I found this on the boone and crocket site.

Mule Deer, Columbia and Sitka Blacktail Deer



http://www.boone-crockett.org/images/boundaries_blacktail.gif
Columbia and Sitka blacktail deer range



The problem of properly defining the boundary between the large antlered mule deer, which ranges widely over most of the western third of the United States and western Canada, and its smaller relatives, the Columbia and Sitka blacktails of the West Coast, has been difficult from the beginning of the records keeping. The three varieties belong to the same species and thus are able to interbreed readily where their ranges meet. The intent of the Club in drawing suitable boundary lines is to exclude intergrades from each of the three categories. These boundaries have been redrawn as necessary, as more details have become known about the precise ranges of these animals.
The current boundary for mule and Columbia blacktail deer is as follows:
British Columbia — Starting at the Washington-British Columbia border, blacktail deer range runs west of the height of land between the Skagit and the Chilliwack Ranges, intersecting the Fraser River opposite the mouth of Ruby Creek, then west to and up Harrison Lake to and up Tipella Creek to the height of land in Garibaldi Park and northwesterly along this divide past Alta Lake, Mt. Dalgleish and Mt. Waddington, thence north to Bella Coola. From Bella Coola, the boundary continues north to the head of Dean Channel, Gardner Canal and Douglas Channel to the town of Anyox, then due west to the Alaska-British Columbia border, which is then followed south to open water. This boundary excludes the area west of the Klesilkwa River and the west side of the Lillooet River.

fourbyfour
01-13-2010, 12:25 AM
for all who blacktail hunt, they know if you can see what on the t.v from your ground blind your not hunting lol

Rainforest hunter
01-13-2010, 06:31 PM
Does squamish and pemberton fall into the boundary?

Gateholio
01-13-2010, 06:38 PM
Does squamish and pemberton fall into the boundary?

The line is near Whistler. Squamish qualifies, Pemberton does not.

Rainforest hunter
01-13-2010, 07:57 PM
Thanks for the info!!

chinook
01-19-2010, 07:38 PM
Ive heard from a fairly reliable source that official scorers will not accept a Blacktail with a spread >3" or 3.5" (can't remember which one) between the bases of the antlers. Where exactly this is measured I dont know. Of course this could be a pile of BS, or it could just be a general rule of thumb. Feel free to poke as many holes as you can in this......

If anyone knows anything more about this, please share.