non-resident sheep tags

[sheephunter17]

im an alberta resident and i was wondering if i can apply for stone sheep draws in BC. If i can where do i find out application info and stuff and if anyone has any ideas how long it takes to draw a tag if possible. thanks

[Gateholio]

Not as far as I know.

I don't think they give out hunter host permits for sheep.

You woudl have to hire an outfitter.

[d6dan]

im an alberta resident and i was wondering if i can apply for stone sheep draws in BC. If i can where do i find out application info and stuff and if anyone has any ideas how long it takes to draw a tag if possible. thanks

Move over here for 6 mos and then you can go hunt them without a guide..:wink:

[jml11]

Sorry you are SOL unless you want to pay some big bucks and go through an outfitter. No Non-resident LEH permits for any species here.

[d6dan]

Gatehouse, they give out permits for non-resident sheep.Read this.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/pasb/applications/docs/accompany_to_hunt.pdf

[yama49]

I was also wondering about that, when i seen the
NON-RESIDENT ROYALTY PAYMENTS, and sheep was included. Where u do u find out what animals are allowed with the hunter host permits?

[boxhitch]

APPLICANTS MAY ACCOMPANY EITHER OR BOTH: a) a non-resident - a person who is not a resident of British Columbia but who (i) is a Canadian Citizen, a permanent resident of Canada, OR (ii) has his/her sole or permanent resident in Canada and has resided in Canada for the 12 month period immediately prior to the date of this application.
Some species are harder to get permits for. The decision is up to the regional manager.

[d6dan]

Basic Eligibility Criteria

The following criteria must be met in order to proceed with an application for an Accompany to Hunt Permit:

Must be a BC resident, who is a Canadian citizen, or a permanent resident (landed immigrant) of Canada;
Must be 19 years of age or older; and must have:
Held a BC resident hunting licence AND a big game species licence for 3 of the 5 years immediately preceding application for this permit; OR,
Successfully completed the BC Conservation and Outdoor Recreation Education Program, and held a BC resident hunting AND a big game species licence for 2 of the 5 years immediately preceding application for this permit;
Must possess, or be qualified to possess, a BC resident hunting licence in good standing; and,
Must not have applied for or been issued an Accompany to Hunt Permit during the same licence year as the application.
A person is not eligible for a permit under section 70(1) (a) of the Act if either the applicant or the non resident or non resident alien to whom the permit would apply, has been convicted of an offence:

Specified under section 84 (1) (a) of the Act, within the 5 year period immediately preceding the application for a permit; or,
Specified under (a) section 84 (1) (b) of the Act, or (b) the Firearm Act within the 3 year period immediately preceding the application for a permit.
Applicants may accompany either or both:

A non-resident - a person who is not a resident of British Columbia but who
is a Canadian Citizen, a permanent resident of Canada; or,
Has his/her sole or permanent residence in Canada and has resided in Canada for the 12 month period immediately prior to the date of this application.
A non resident alien (a person who is neither a resident nor a non resident) whose relationship to the applicant falls within the following categories:Father; Mother; Spouse; Brother; Sister; Father-in-law; Son; Daughter; Mother-in-law; Uncle; Aunt; Son-in-law; Nephew; Niece; Daughter-in-law; Grandson; Granddaughter; Brother-in-law; Grandfather; Grandmother; Sister-in-law.
NOTE: “COUSIN” is NOT an accepted relationship


Restriction of hunt area:
Applicants are restricted to hunt within ONE Region with a choice of three Management Units (M.U.s) within that Region.
Steps to Obtaining a Permit to Accompany a Non-Resident Hunting

Review the basic eligibility criteria, to ensure you can meet the requirements.
The following is required in order to proceed with the permit:
A completed Accompany to Hunt application form (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/pasb/applications/docs/accompany_to_hunt.pdf) [PDF 50KB];
A cheque for $55, made payable to the B.C. Minister of Finance.
NOTE: Applications for Accompany to Hunt Permits must be received at least 4 weeks before the specified “hunt start date”.
Visa/Mastercard Payment Authorization Form (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/pasb/applications/docs/visa_mastercard.pdf) [PDF 133KB]
Questions regarding permit requirements that are not addressed within these pages or for contact information visit: Permit and Authorization Service Bureau (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/pasb/contact/index.html).


Frequently Asked Questions

Do Accompany to Hunt permits have any restrictions?
Yes, there are restrictions throughout regions on various Management Units and Species that can be hunted by non-resident hunters. Please contact above for specific restrictions.
Do I need to complete the Declaration of Hunt Report (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/pasb/reports/wildlife/accompanied_hunt_report_form.pdf) [PDF 122KB] if the hunt did not take place or if there was no kill?
Yes – the report must be completed in all cases. Permittees must submit a completed “Accompanied Hunt – Report Form (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/pasb/reports/wildlife/accompanied_hunt_report_form.pdf)” [PDF 99KB] NO LATER than ten days after the “Hunt Finish Date” stated in the permit and royalty payment for each animal killed.
Are there royalty fees applicable to Accompany to Hunt permits?
Yes, fees are as follows:

Mountain sheep $250
Mountain goat $150
Moose $125
Elk $125
Caribou $125
Cougar $125
Black bear $75
Deer $50
Wolf $50Where do I purchase Non-Resident Licences and Species tags?
These licences can only be purchased at Government Agent Access Centres (http://www.governmentagents.gov.bc.ca/directory.htm) (see link for locations) throughout the province or from the Fish and Wildlife Branch (click here for details (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/non_resident/hunting.html)) in Victoria. Please note they can not be purchased at Sporting Goods stores.



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This should clear up any doubts...

[Gateholio]

Clearly I am mistaken.

I believe as boxhitch says, it is up to eh regional manager.

From experience, it's easy to get a black bear permit, but they still restrict you to wich MU you can hunt. Like 2-11 or 2-09, but not 1-05 etc...You can't go anywhere in the province with the tag. I assume it's the same for sheep.

[Moose Guide]

my brother inlaw guides his brother every year or two(elk + moose)
and they have had no hassles, as long as there is an open season
you can get a permit to accompany as far as I can find! LEH is for residents only so griz and bison arn't available!

[whitetailsheds]

Have applied for Stones on several Permit to Accompany applications for Alberta buddies, all have been denied.

[budismyhorse]

my brother inlaw guides his brother every year or two(elk + moose)
and they have had no hassles, as long as there is an open season
you can get a permit to accompany as far as I can find! LEH is for residents only so griz and bison arn't available!


You are missing the key.......elk and moose are NOT on quota.

Stone Sheep are and the Regional Managers will absolutely not approve it based on this.

I tried for months when my old man lived in Alberta....ain't happen'in.

Oddly enough it was discussed years ago through many meetings and when it looked like out of province Canadian residents could hunt with a BC resident family member and shoot that hunters tag (meaning 1 sheep tag between the two)..........however this was denied.

[Moose Guide]

You are missing the key.......elk and moose are NOT on quota.

Stone Sheep are and the Regional Managers will absolutely not approve it based on this.

I tried for months when my old man lived in Alberta....ain't happen'in.

Oddly enough it was discussed years ago through many meetings and when it looked like out of province Canadian residents could hunt with a BC resident family member and shoot that hunters tag (meaning 1 sheep tag between the two)..........however this was denied.

If you tried and couldn't get the permit then you are obviously right, I will talk to my local game warden and see if he nows of a way, it can't hurt!!!

[budismyhorse]

If you tried and couldn't get the permit then you are obviously right, I will talk to my local game warden and see if he nows of a way, it can't hurt!!!

Game wardens didn't know a thing about the approval process......I suggest you go to the end point and get ahold of the regional manager.

Through a few connections I actually was in contact with the Manager of the regional managers in Victoria and got it straight from him. No more final answer than that!:-?

[bridger]

getting a permit to accompany is easy for most species, but sheep are a different matter. Permits to accompany for sheep historically have been a hot potato at the allocation negotiations as outfitters are dead set against it. they are also against the whole permit to accompany situation as they feel they lose clients. not trying to stir the pot here just giving some background. about 10 years ago it was suggested by the bcwf reps that a few permits for sheep be given in each region. that didn't go over well so we sweetened the pot by saying the hunter host would have to cancel his tag as well. ie two cancelled tags i ram. this was met with a wall of silence. it is possible to get a permit but extremely difficult. one of the reasons the goabc is so adamant about sheep is the real possiblity of abuse. given the high cost of non resident sheep hunts the fear is that a bc resident could take a well heeled non resident for cash under the table. I suppose that could happen but if the same bc resident applied every year for a different hunter the co's could shut that down pretty easy.

[325 wsm]

so if stone sheep permits are denied on a regular basis what the chances of getting one for bighorns. even less I would assume. would love to trade for a grizz,moose,caribou hunt...etc

[Devilbear]

I would strongly support a specific percentage of ALL BC "permits" be allocated to a revamped "hunter host" programme for other CANADIANS and I mean people BORN HERE, not "citizens of convenience" as we have all too many of now. I would set this at 10% of the AAH per region and do it by a "draw" process; this would enable other Canadians to enjoy what we have in BC.

With the cut in quotas for GOs and their foreign clients, there would be sufficient game to allow this and it would help in Canadian unity. I see NO valid reason why an Albertan-Canadian should be treated like a Yankee in his own country, so, f**k the foreigners and help our fellow Canucks!

[bridger]

so if stone sheep permits are denied on a regular basis what the chances of getting one for bighorns. even less I would assume. would love to trade for a grizz,moose,caribou hunt...etc


unfortunately the same theory applies to all sheep in bc. The bcwf would like to see a system you describe in place with all provinces. ie trade goat hunt for a saskatchewan whitetail or a sheep for giant caribou in the yukon. At present however the goabc lobby has blocked that approach. sorry but that is reality in bc.

[325 wsm]

Not surprised ....can't do it for sheep at all in the Yukon.

[oclarkii]

I had the same question, wanted to take an uncle from AB stone hunting. I actually called the Permit to Accompany branch in Victoria and talked to a guy there, he basically said no permit would be given for sheep, period.

[d6dan]

Move over here for 6 mos and then you can go hunt them without a guide..:wink:

Like I said before. Move here for awhile, go sheep hunting. :wink: