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Spampy
10-08-2009, 12:58 PM
How often would you call a deer once you are set?
Buck and doe sounds.
Does the buck scent really work?

BlacktailStalker
10-08-2009, 01:07 PM
I dont think there is any "sure" way.
Its pretty hit and miss.
Just remember deer dont walk around calling alll the time, so over doing it could be the worst thing you could do.

Set up, try a couple bleats, wait 20-30 mins and move on.
Grunts will work in pre rut and rut (again, hit or miss though, never worked for me but I'd rather find them than let them come to me)

303Brit
10-08-2009, 01:16 PM
Well in BC you gotta dial the area code first, nah just messin

But I've found it varies place to place, and species to species WT seem to be fine with calls where as BT seem to be less inclined to track them down, except in the rut or with the fawn bleat.

also be aware of who else comes to that call

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huntwriter
10-08-2009, 02:48 PM
How often would you call a deer once you are set?

Most hunters call to often, to loud and use the wrong call at the wrong time of the season. Like rattling in the early season when bucks still in velvet or using an estrus bleat before deer are in heat. Deer are not very verbal and certainly not loud, and deer know what they supposed to sound like. I call once or twice every half hour. The sounds I make and the calls I use depend on the time of season.

Buck and doe sounds.In the early season I use social grunt calls.
When the bucks shed the velvet and through to the middle of October I use rattling anthers or a rattling bag. I only mimic sparring not fights. This works on all deer bucks and does will investigate sparring.
When the rut get in full swing I use doe in estrus bleats and non aggressive buck grunts.

Does the buck scent really work?Calling and scent is like everything else. To make it work it has to be done right, at the right time of the season and most important on the right location. Deer, unlike elk and turkey, will not travel a long distance to investigate a call or scent. In studies we have done we observed that about 80% of deer will completely ignore any calls and smells outside of about a 120 yard radius. Within the 120 yard radius some deer will react to calls and scent but choose to ignore it. Most positive scent and calling reactions, where deer came to it, happened when we used calls and scent on travel corridors the deer where actually using. In that same study we learned that areas where many hunters call deer and use scent deer will completely ignore it. These deer heard and smelt it all and are not fooled anymore.

Calling and scent is not a strategy by itself rather it is a part of a well planed and executed overall strategy based on sound scouting results.

One word about scent. The same holds true for scent as for calls. Doe in estrus scent will not work before the rut, quite the opposite it will scare deer. So does buck in rut and dominant buck scent. In the early season I use normal doe urine and during the rut I use my own. I pee on rubs, brush, into trails and into scrapes. Human urine works as well as commercial deer lure (Don't tell my sponsor that i said that):lol:. Testosterone is testosterone be that from a human or animal.

If you use commercial scent read the label carefully. If it says on the label ten drops do as it says. Some hunters think more is better and empty the bottle in one place. Deer know that they do not grow the size of elephants. or that a hundred deer pee simultaneously in the same spot. In other words to much scent scares them.

Spampy
10-09-2009, 12:18 PM
Great info...I'll tone it down a notch or two.
Thanks

quadrakid
10-09-2009, 07:48 PM
Over the years i,ve had some good days using scents as well as calls.Most of my success has been during the rut using very quiet doe bleats, i also use a scent drag to my setup spot. Doesn,t work all that often but when it does it sure is fun. Having a buck grunt his way into your setup is a rush. Another couple of weeks and the bucks on Quadra will start moving. A lot has been said lately about using the fawn bleat to bring in the doe with the buck following. It can work but would not be my first choice,every deer within hearing distance is going to be on high alert.Having said that i got my buck last year after he busted me by wailing on the fawn in distress to hold his attention.

Jager
10-09-2009, 07:58 PM
Hhheeeeeeerrrrrreeeeee Deeeeeeer !!!!!!

ratherbefishin
10-10-2009, 07:26 AM
I've got a lot of deer around my home and so tried rattling and grunt calls on blacktails-even when they are in plain view,few ever payed any attention,or even looked up -but once I tried a grunt call-and heard an answering grunt from the bushes and a nice buck had responded to it.Whether they come in or not, I don't know.

ghost
10-10-2009, 08:15 AM
I have used a common doe sound and have had both does and bucks respond.I have tried it on blacktails and mule deer.In some situations I have had deer run right to me.

huntwriter
10-10-2009, 08:56 AM
I have used a common doe sound and have had both does and bucks respond...

Common doe or buck grunt, a social call, is the most effective to use. This is a call deer make throughout the year and in most cases before the make any other sound such as doe in heat bleat or buck in rut grunt.

cainer
10-10-2009, 10:11 AM
In region 3, rattling would work right now. I just watched a bunch of 2 pointers sparring for like an hour. Had to bag one of em. I tried the old grunt tube even after the shot(s) and they still came back to investigate.

Chuck
10-10-2009, 10:56 AM
I've only used a call while whitetail still hunting and have had some success in stopping a sneaky buck that has detected and is attempting to flee the area, but hasn't identified me. On two occassions I spotted him on the vamoose and he didn't present a good shot. The grunt brought him to a stop and allowed me the shot through the trees.

The Hermit
10-13-2009, 11:20 PM
I've only ever used calls (komheredeer) and a grunt tube to stop them in a shooting lane... works great for that!