Rishu's big moose

[rishu_pepper]

It was a beautiful Sunday afternoon when we departed from Langley to the north. Our journey would take 2 days to head up. The hunting party included Glenn (Dad and son) and his son Andrew, and a new hunter Theo (Theo722). With a hopeful heart and a prayer, we began our trip.

It was the first time I've been in Region 7B. The scenery is breathtaking anywhere I went. Simply God's country.

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Our hunt actually began on the third day. We went to our spot, set up the boat, and began glassing the lake. A cow moose was frolicking, without a care in the world. Glenn took a nap :p And I soon followed suit. Half an hour later, Andrew spots another moose, and as soon as he looked through the spotting scope, he saw antlers. Big ones. With that, Glenn said, "Let's go get your moose Brian."

We quickly boarded the boat and 15-20 minutes later, we got to the side of the lake and went ashore to sneak in closer. We could get no closer than 250 yards (give or take 50), and we decided we had to take the shot before the moose would start to notice. Andrew and I used some tree branches to rest our guns, and Glenn gave the signal: "Shoot on the count of 3." Broadside, we shot simultaneously on 3. His Tikka 300 WM and my well-known 7WSM. Shots were fired, MANY shots. I took four shots, of which I know two hits and two missed.

The 140gr TTSX, both recovered, weighing in at 139.5gr and 139.7gr respectively (99%+ weight retention). One lodged smack-dab in the heart, another somewhere in the upper front ribs.

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Andrew took 7 shots. We're not sure if he hit the moose (no bullet recovery/bullet holes?). Glenn took two shots with his M70 300 WM... and scoped himself :redface:

The moose wobbled for a very short time (seemed like an eternity), and plopped into the shallow water.

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So, the usual high-fiving and congratulations were being passed out, and we started to drag the moose close to shore before we began field dressing the animal. Sure was a tough job roping a 1000+ lbs moose in the water! :biggrin:

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We began gutting the critter and took our time. About half an hour into the job, Andrew suddenly said, "Hey dad, there's another bull." Sure enough, a few hundred yards away, there was another moose. Quickly, we got back onto the boat and started to head for this newcomer.

As I have cut my tag already, this would be Andrew's moose. This time, he made sure his shots were true. And sure enough, this would be a monster. Andrew lined up his shots and there were to be no missed shots.

Check out this big guy.

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We started gutting this animal, and another cow was walking around in the water a long ways away, and we paid no notice.


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You could sense this coming: Andrew spotted another bull moose during gutting! Of course, this is Glenn's turn.

We drove to another shoreline so Glenn could line up his shot; it was quite far (300 yards or more), but the bull was situated that way, so he had no choice. He shot 4 rounds out of his M70, the moose didn't react... so another 4 out of my 7WSM (he had run out of ammo), nothing either... unfortunately, shots were missed and the bull walked away unscathed (well, at least better than having a wounded and unrecovered animal).

Imagine Theo's surprise when we came back to camp and said, "So, we got two bulls". He thought we were yanking his chain! Well, that perked his optimism and the next morning, he would claim his first ever big game animal, a spikey moose (2 shots out of 3 hit, in his Savage 300 WM).

Here's where the story gets interesting: The previous day, after Andrew and I shot our moose, it was getting dark so we had to leave it in the water (gutted) and come back for them the next day. So Theo, Glenn, and I went out to retrieve them after Theo got his spikey.

As we were working on quartering my moose (boy that chainsaw sure makes a nice bloodbath...), Theo suddenly heard a LOUD thrashing noise in the timber very close to us. The second time, I heard it too. It was then we got worried. Could it be... GRIZZLY? We sure weren't staying to find out! We made occasional yelling noises and I had my rifle at the ready. Throwing the quarters onto the boat, we got out of there as fast as we could. It could easily have been a moose or some other animal, but we sure weren't staying to find out! :D

The antler pictures were taken on the day after shooting:

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Tried my hand at fishing for arctic grayling but had no idea what I was doing... at least I could enjoy the scenery.


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The next few days, we attempted to bag ourselves a caribou and/or elk.

Unfortunately, all the caribou we spotted were less than 5 points (this guy was as close as it gets, but it was on the highway anyway...).

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As for elk... boy I'm still ticked off. So one evening, we walked into a trail, and we split up into two pairs. Theo and I walked the trail, noticing some nice elk tracks. We were walking carelessly when suddenly a big bull (let's just say it was a legal bull) bolted from side to side, not 25 yards in front of us. We tried to track it down but we were unsuccessful. Elk is my most favourite animal and I would have been ecstatic to bring that baby home, but alas, we were unsuccessful and would not see another elk for the rest of our trip. :(

The trip would not be without our adventures. For example, one afternoon Glenn, Andrew, and I drove onto a logging road with the quad and got stuck in mud (which actually turned out to be clay). We had to walk 1.5 hours to the truck, put chains on the truck, and drove to the quad to retrieve it. Quad had a flat tire too.

And you guys are gonna love this: I saw a coyote. :lol: Season's not open yet though...

Also, we tried to get Glenn his moose too. We did see some stupid moose on the highway but nothing came of it, of course.

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Glenn was not amused.

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Video of the spikey teasing us.

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The three of them did some fishing on the way back in Charlie Lake (I didn't go, forgot my license :mad:). Caught some nice looking walleye and pike.


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You don't usually have walleye/pike and moose heart for dinner as a combination...

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We went up north seeing a rainbow, and on the way back, we again encountered a rainbow (a pair, in fact). Our trip was marked by success and adventures, and lots of memories.

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Thanks to Glenn for sharing your wisdom on bringing us to such a wonderful place and letting me be a part of your hunting party. It was a very nice gesture for you to bring us there.

Congrats for your first of many animals, Theo, and thanks for the constant food you provided me without question ;)

And of course, thank the Lord for keeping me safe from grizzlies :) and the brilliant creation You showed us throughout this trip.

[shaner338]

Nice one!! Congrats!! I like the long brow palm thats cool!!

[Paulyman]

Rishu! you're a bad man shooting a moose that has to be pulled out of water,Glen does not look happy! :)

Nice Moose! i am happy for ya.

Paul

[moosehunter21]

Nice moose Congrats! Should be tasty lil critter.

[Steeleco]

In my next life I'm gonna be a teacher too, your the second (so far) today to show and tell. At least that way your always going to get the summer off for moose hunting!! Well done Brian.

[hunter1947]

Very nice moose you got there ,congrats http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif.

[TIKA 300]

NNNNNIIIIIIICCCCCEEEEE !!!!!:biggrin::biggrin:

[valleycowboy]

congrats on a very nice moose!!http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[NaStY]

Congrats Brian Looks like a nice animal for your first...

[Tanya]

Excellent! Some fine eating ahead for you.

[BiG Boar]

Did you shoot it in the water? Did it float? Did you drag it across a lake to camp? Would you rather have shot it on land? Got any more pictures?

[Mr. Friendly]

I wonder what kinda moose recipe's the Coyote Chef will conjure up with that thing! :razz:

[kastles]

Jeez, I thought you were holding a .22 at first glance. Nice animal.

[Blainer]

good looking moose.
did you shave for the picture?looks like you just got out of the shower for the photo .We would like to see more field photo's.
Good on ya!

[bigwhiteys]

Nice Moose Rishu... He'll be good eating!

Carl

[tomahawk]

Nice bull, looks like you were dressed to go to a restaurant rather than hunting?

[stanway]

Congrats on the moose!

[Spuddge]

Nice job congrats!!

[leadpillproductions]

nice bull congrads

[Jetboat]

Right on, nice bull. Now you can eat real food instead of those mangy coyotes :razz:

[martyonthewater]

nice job rishu, now let's here the story.

[whitetailsheds]

Nice bull, Brian!

[kishman]

Way to go Brian, I think you'll have trouble going back to 'yote steaks after some of that:p!

[bighornbob]

Bet you he will taste better then a coyote:razz:

BHB

[Phil]

Nice moose for sure. Congrats on your first!

[d6dan]

Congrats Rishu, nice looking bull. looking forward to the story...

[killman]

Nice work Rishu! Looks like a great bull, can't wait to here the story.

[irishbandit1]

nice job,congrats!

[nano]

nice bull ,congrats!

[Brett]

Congrats! can't wait!

[hillclimber]

nice moose can't wait for a story and more pics. i was supposed to go on the trip but plans changed:frown:

[Gateholio]

Congrats on a great moose! Your friends and family will be happy now, since they won't have to eat coyote this year!:p

[Th0r]

Nice Moose. Congrats!

[BlacktailStalker]

Very nice. I bet you hammered some yotes off the gut pile though ;)

[riflebuilder]

way to go Rishi bet it will be better eating than that coyotee chilli.

[mark]

Nice big moose, is there still a campfire ban in the peace area???

[The Dawg]

Nice big moose, is there still a campfire ban in the peace area???


No...it was lifted a few days ago :D


Nice moose Brian ....congrats

[boonerbuck]

Good job Rishu!! He's going to taste awesome....I love Aug moose.:smile:

[boonerbuck]

Congrats on a great moose! Your friends and family will be happy now, since they won't have to eat coyote this year!:p

Somebody had to say it!!:razz::razz::smile:

[ohno]

Nice moose. If only I'm so lucky this year.
Did ya keep yer feet dry?

[rishu_pepper]

Thanks again for the well-wishes, everyone.

Pics and story is now up, see first post! :)

Scenery pics up. See below.

[rishu_pepper]

Scenery pics Part 1:

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[rishu_pepper]

Scenery pics Part 2:

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[rishu_pepper]

Scenery pics Part 3:

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[shantz]

Awesome story congrats on the moose

[MB_Boy]

Awesome story congrats on the moose

x2....great pics and great story. Congrats to all and the "first timers"....you'll replay that one over and over for years to come.:smile:

[d6dan]

Now that was a story worth waiting for...memories for ever!...super scenic pics too...

[bigwhiteys]

No wonder ol'e A.M. came wandering out of the bush...! He thought there was a friggen war going on and was probably scared you'd started dumping his big black horses. Thanks for the pics... They might have to put a set of traffic lights on the road and call it granville street for next year ;)

Carl

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Let me guess........First trip up the Alaska Hwy??:biggrin:

Nice bull winkle!! Should make lots of good Chop Suey.

You know what they say........Once you've had moose it's hard to go back to yote!:smile:

Congrats on a fine bull!!

SSS

[Fisher-Dude]

Hope you get a discount on bulk purchases of ammo! :shock:

Lots of familiar scenes in your pics. Congrats on aerating the bull!

[Sir Jake]

Very nice, great job on the moose's :)

[rishu_pepper]

No wonder ol'e A.M. came wandering out of the bush...! He thought there was a friggen war going on and was probably scared you'd started dumping his big black horses. Thanks for the pics... They might have to put a set of traffic lights on the road and call it granville street for next year ;)

Carl

HAHAHAHA I understood what you meant, and it's hella funny! :biggrin:

[todbartell]

sounds like some of your partners need you to school them at the gun range in how to operate a rifle :)

nice bull Weesho, very nice

[BearSniper]

What a story!

Great Moose trip, Congrats to all inviolved.

Beautiful country is right

[Sunny]

very interesting look like very easly I shall go next year

[rifleman]

nice job. I bet yer freezers will be full now.

[quackquackbang]

Nice bull moose man and very nice pics!!!

[Wolfman]

Way to go, Brian!

Now, if you only get to cut that Sasquatch tag you bought it will be REALLY special!


Wolfman

[tomahawk]

Let me guess........First trip up the Alaska Hwy??:biggrin:


SSS

Ain't that the truth!!!

[BearSniper]

Rishu,

What River is that in the pics ?

Sure looks peacful

[300wsm]

congrats on the moose... and you are right to thank god for keeping you safe because if that was a grizz in the bush you might not of had enough ammo to hit him.

get to the range

=)

[bsa30-06]

congrats Brian, nice moose.

[rishu_pepper]

Rishu,

What River is that in the pics ?

Sure looks peacful

Sorry, I promised Glenn I wouldn't tell. Let's just say somewhere in 7B. :cool:


congrats on the moose... and you are right to thank god for keeping you safe because if that was a grizz in the bush you might not of had enough ammo to hit him.

get to the range

=)

Hey I did hit it 2 out of 4 (one was badly low, the other, who knows), and one was a heart shot :biggrin:

[BlacktailStalker]

Nice country.
Rivers are long, doubt anybody would guess where that is.

[300wsm]

I am just playing around... very nice tablefare there. it sounds like a great trip and thanks for the pics and story. i hope to have my own come sept. 10th for my moose draw!

[boonerbuck]

Sorry, I promised Glenn I wouldn't tell. Let's just say somewhere in 7B.

I give you a thumbs up on that!:D

[Blainer]

That's an incredible first day and an incredible opportunity you took advantage of.
Good on ya!
I'm thinking your hunting partners may not be so thrilled about how descriptive you were about their shooting skills.

[rishu_pepper]

Nice country.
Rivers are long, doubt anybody would guess where that is.

bigwhiteys knew where the spot is just by looking at the gravel pit where I took the antler pics. :biggrin:

[gr8d8b8]

Way to go, nice job, I'll be heading up shortly myself for my luck on elk!:cool:

[BlacktailStalker]

Thats why I wouldnt have posted the pics of the camping spot !
Hard to pinpoint a bend on a river let alone which river it is, oh well live and learn.
Nice haul though, some good eating this winter.

[olharley guy]

Howdy, great moose and great pictures,makes me dream of doing that again. Thanks Later

[ianwuzhere]

awesome pix and story! looks like a fun time.
- Have to question the total amount of shots tho???
4 shots then 7 shots?? at about 250yrds???
thats dangerous shooting there! shoulda hit the range up before the trip!
-Do you have any pix of you guys quartering the moose with a chainsaw???- sounds like some crazy stuff goin on!!!

[Bow Walker]

very nice pics - you're right, it is beautiful scenery up there. Congratulations to you and your party.

[whitespringer]

Way to go on the moose. I gotta get up there one day. Wow!

[willy442]

Thanks to Glenn for sharing your wisdom on bringing us to such a wonderful place and letting me be a part of your hunting party. It was a very nice gesture for you to bring us there.

Rishu; I would first off like to congradulate you on your successful moose hunt. Then I would like to pose some questions to you.

1.The place that your friend took you to was my home for thirty odd years.
2.The lake you took your moose from is home to a native indian family that migrated there when small pox was an issue with the native population. This family now consists of elders only from the age of 87 to about 65. Thier sole source of food comes from this small area that you have now made public to the entire intra web. Although I'm sure they will never see your posts, I'm just as sure your posts will now cause these harmless old folks much grief when thier food supply is decimated by the info given in your posts.
3. Normally hunters tend to keep spots like this quiet and continue enjoying successful hunting trips year after year. I would like to ask what you have hoped to gain by the information you have presented? With out any regard for the local area or people that have spent thier entire life, facing the cold harsh northern winters, without all the comforts you see in down town Vancouver.
4. Another one of your statements is " after 7 shots you didn't know if you hit anything" in total by your post, your group fired 20 some odd shots at moose on this lake. I have hunted for many many years both privately and proffessionally and never have I heard of such poor shooting. You not only have made the area as known as Granville street in Vancouver but you may as well open a hamburger stand for wasted meat you most likely left behind.
5. Although I don't know you and probably never will. I hope you never find another spot like this and return to the diet of rice and eye balls I see posted above.

Bill Sorensen

[tikkat3]

congrats, damn I'm jealous. One day I'll make the coin it takes to take a trip like that!

[shoot to kill]

nice bull....

get to the range and practice shooting...that was an embarrassing read

[Islander 7mm]

I have to agree with willy442. Nice moose and all but multiple guys lining up a moose and shooting on three? Yikes! In a world that calls poachers, hunters we got to be above board and ethical. That being said sounds like a fun trip.

[todbartell]

how is 3 guys with 3 legal tags hunting in a legal open season considered poaching, when shooting at a legal animal? give your ****ing head a shake buddy

[willy442]

how is 3 guys with 3 legal tags hunting in a legal open season considered poaching, when shooting at a legal animal? give your ****ing head a shake buddy

At least one of them already had a Moose. Did he not? How is it legal for him to shoot at a second moose? Please explain.

[Gateholio]

Thanks to Glenn for sharing your wisdom on bringing us to such a wonderful place and letting me be a part of your hunting party. It was a very nice gesture for you to bring us there.

Rishu; I would first off like to congradulate you on your successful moose hunt. Then I would like to pose some questions to you.

1.The place that your friend took you to was my home for thirty odd years.
2.The lake you took your moose from is home to a native indian family that migrated there when small pox was an issue with the native population. This family now consists of elders only from the age of 87 to about 65. Thier sole source of food comes from this small area that you have now made public to the entire intra web. Although I'm sure they will never see your posts, I'm just as sure your posts will now cause these harmless old folks much grief when thier food supply is decimated by the info given in your posts.
3. Normally hunters tend to keep spots like this quiet and continue enjoying successful hunting trips year after year. I would like to ask what you have hoped to gain by the information you have presented? With out any regard for the local area or people that have spent thier entire life, facing the cold harsh northern winters, without all the comforts you see in down town Vancouver.
4. Another one of your statements is " after 7 shots you didn't know if you hit anything" in total by your post, your group fired 20 some odd shots at moose on this lake. I have hunted for many many years both privately and proffessionally and never have I heard of such poor shooting. You not only have made the area as known as Granville street in Vancouver but you may as well open a hamburger stand for wasted meat you most likely left behind.
5. Although I don't know you and probably never will. I hope you never find another spot like this and return to the diet of rice and eye balls I see posted above.

Bill Sorensen

The NEW HUNTER is just posting pictures of his hunting trip. Could be some improvement in marksmanship from this group, but Rishu did hit 2 out of 4 shots, and most hunters have missed at one point in thier hunting career.

Maybe everyone should have you view thier pictures before they post, to make sure they meet your criteria and dont' "expose" any "secret" spots.:roll:

[todbartell]

At least one of them already had a Moose. Did he not? How is it legal for him to shoot at a second moose? Please explain.

nowhere in Rishu's story did he claim that anybody who had previously killed a moose, took a shot at another. Maybe learn how to ****in read before you begin to make statements about people poaching :roll:

[Gateholio]

At least one of them already had a Moose. Did he not? How is it legal for him to shoot at a second moose? Please explain.

To me, it sounds as if Glenn ran out of ammo, and used Rishus rifle, not RIshu shooting at the moose. No law against that.

[willy442]

The NEW HUNTER is just posting pictures of his hunting trip. Could be some improvement in marksmanship from this group, but Rishu did hit 2 out of 4 shots, and most hunters have missed at one point in thier hunting career.

Maybe everyone should have you view thier pictures before they post, to make sure they meet your criteria and dont' "expose" any "secret" spots.:roll:

I could really care less about his shots and what ever and am aware he is a friend of many on this site including you. What I'm pissed at is his disregard for the old native family. He was aware of them because in a private post other members he said so. The effects of future groups of hunters on thier life style could be decimating. All at the cost of bragging to people on here.:roll:

[willy442]

nowhere in Rishu's story did he claim that anybody who had previously killed a moose, took a shot at another. Maybe learn how to ****in read before you begin to make statements about people poaching :roll:

I don't recall making any claims of poaching. Flock shooting wildlife is not legal! I can't be bothered to complete reading this type of story, sorry.:mad:

[todbartell]

Glenn gave the signal: "Shoot on the count of 3." Broadside, we shot simultaneously on 3. His Tikka 300 WM and my well-known 7WSM. Shots were fired, MANY shots. took four shots, of which I know two hits and two missed.

Andrew took 7 shots. We're not sure if he hit the moose (no bullet recovery/bullet holes?). Glenn took two shots with his M70 300 WM... and scoped himself :redface:










As I have cut my tag already, this would be Andrew's moose. This time, he made sure his shots were true. And sure enough, this would be a monster. Andrew lined up his shots and there were to be no missed shots.










You could sense this coming: Andrew spotted another bull moose during gutting! Of course, this is Glenn's turn.

We drove to another shoreline so Glenn could line up his shot; it was quite far (300 yards or more), but the bull was situated that way, so he had no choice. He shot 4 rounds out of his M70, the moose didn't react... so another 4 out of my 7WSM (he had run out of ammo), nothing either... unfortunately, shots were missed and the bull walked away unscathed (well, at least better than having a wounded and unrecovered animal).

Imagine Theo's surprise when we came back to camp and said, "So, we got two bulls". He thought we were yanking his chain! Well, that perked his optimism and the next morning, he would claim his first ever big game animal, a spikey moose (2 shots out of 3 hit, in his Savage 300 WM).


ok Willy maybe you can point out where someone who was tagged out, did some more shooting at moose?

:roll:

[todbartell]

I don't recall making any claims of poaching. Flock shooting wildlife is not legal! I can't be bothered to complete reading this type of story, sorry.:mad:

hmmm, sounded like you were questioning them on breaking game laws when you said :


At least one of them already had a Moose. Did he not? How is it legal for him to shoot at a second moose? Please explain.

[moosinaround]

Holy Rishu, when you said you dumped a big one you were NOT talking poop!! Nice moose Bro!! Sounds like some buck fever, can happen on a huge critter, probably won't happen again on moose though! You are now an experienced moose hunter! Congrats! Moosinaround

[Bpower]

Thanks to Glenn for sharing your wisdom on bringing us to such a wonderful place and letting me be a part of your hunting party. It was a very nice gesture for you to bring us there.

Rishu; I would first off like to congradulate you on your successful moose hunt. Then I would like to pose some questions to you.

1.The place that your friend took you to was my home for thirty odd years.
2.The lake you took your moose from is home to a native indian family that migrated there when small pox was an issue with the native population. This family now consists of elders only from the age of 87 to about 65. Thier sole source of food comes from this small area that you have now made public to the entire intra web. Although I'm sure they will never see your posts, I'm just as sure your posts will now cause these harmless old folks much grief when thier food supply is decimated by the info given in your posts.
3. Normally hunters tend to keep spots like this quiet and continue enjoying successful hunting trips year after year. I would like to ask what you have hoped to gain by the information you have presented? With out any regard for the local area or people that have spent thier entire life, facing the cold harsh northern winters, without all the comforts you see in down town Vancouver.
4. Another one of your statements is " after 7 shots you didn't know if you hit anything" in total by your post, your group fired 20 some odd shots at moose on this lake. I have hunted for many many years both privately and proffessionally and never have I heard of such poor shooting. You not only have made the area as known as Granville street in Vancouver but you may as well open a hamburger stand for wasted meat you most likely left behind.
5. Although I don't know you and probably never will. I hope you never find another spot like this and return to the diet of rice and eye balls I see posted above.

Bill Sorensen

That's it...my mind is made up, I',m getting a 6" lift kit on my Ford Expedition and putting 36" mudders onto my winter rims to roll on up the EXACT SAME AREA Rishu dumped his swamp donkey!...plus I'm going to ask Bigbore14 if I can borrow a magnum rifle so I can rip that big old moose in half with one shot!


Seriously though Bill, Rishu was pretty vague at describing the spot he was in. It is no big secret you have to leave the Lower Mainland and travel North to find Moose.

[Gateholio]

I could really care less about his shots and what ever and am aware he is a friend of many on this site including you. What I'm pissed at is his disregard for the old native family. He was aware of them because in a private post other members he said so. The effects of future groups of hunters on thier life style could be decimating. All at the cost of bragging to people on here.:roll:

I know RIshu about as much as I know you- through HBC only. I wouldn't call either of you my "friend" as I don't know either of you very well.

He posted some pics of his trip, no GPS coordinates... And if some people recognize the area, then it means they are already know the lake and river exist, so your fears are likely unfounded. And irrelevant, really. As you have said so many times, the wildlife belongs to ALL BC citizens.

[moosinaround]

Gotta tell yah I think Willy442 is the new SHIT Stirring Champion! Must be slow for sheep so now its moose??!!!

[Gateholio]

I don't recall making any claims of poaching. Flock shooting wildlife is not legal! I can't be bothered to complete reading this type of story, sorry.:mad:

It's not the way I prefer to see hunting done, but if everyone that is shooting has a valid tag (like in this case) then it's legal, as long as the person that makes the kill cuts his tag.

[BlacktailStalker]

Did you guys get 3 moose in total ?

[Bpower]

Gotta tell yah I think Willy442 is the new SHIT Stirring Champion! Must be slow for sheep so now its moose??!!!


Yup,

He's a good troller. He touched on the plight of the natives and finished off with a border line racist comment about another ethinic group.

[willy442]

It's not the way I prefer to see hunting done, but if everyone that is shooting has a valid tag (like in this case) then it's legal, as long as the person that makes the kill cuts his tag.

My only question is. As hunters in this province, we are sportsmen who are constantly viewed by nonhunters and anti's as killers and decimators of wildlife populations. Should we be presenting the kind of image HIGHLIGHTED by Tod Bartell on a public forum. Then put forth in media and print, the fact that we are trying to promote more hunters in the Province. How do we as resident hunters hope to have any degree of success in accomplishing our goals of doing this. Let me remind you, one story of carnage by it self will ruin multiple stories of single shot ethical kills. :roll:
My local concern is the native family. I'm sure by the pictures posted and information given thier existance is going to somewhat suffer. These people live totally off the land, they tan hides to make footwear and survival gear. I know them all personnally and have the highest regard for what they have lived through and accomplished. Now that they are old and feeling the test of time. Do they deserve what could be the out come of this post to thier remaining few years?:sad:

[rollingrock]

I've never regarded hunters as sportsmen and hunting as a sport. Hunting as a sport, in my impression, is always for rich people. Firing multiple shots at a game isn't illegal as long as Rishu didn't shoot out of a banana clip. There is a reason for the law to allow you to carry a gun that holds 5 rounds. Otherwise we can push for single shot hunting rifle legislation, and that for sure will make some ethics whores feel better. For those who claim that they have never fired a second shot to kill a game or have never lost a game in their lives, I always wonder if they 'hunt' inside a barn. For those locals who are afraid of losing their 'honey holes', I can only advise them to buy those crown lands to privatize.

Nice moose, Rishu!

[308BAR]

Congrats! Thanks for sharing.

[Fisher-Dude]

I spent quite a while speaking with the old native ladies and the old fellow that lives with them (an American, IIRC) last time I was up there. From his stories about the moose meat we were watching them smoke and preserve, he indicated that he didn't hunt at the lake, but traveled to the north side of the highway to get their moose. The indian ladies don't shoot them, he does. The native ladies smoke and process them.

Ergo, I doubt that there is any impact from the LEGAL harvest of moose by BC resident hunters at the lake, or anywhere in the area for that matter. I don't recall reading in the regulations that a WHITE American was allowed to shoot moose for his native girlfriends, but if Willy chooses to support the illegal harvest of moose by a white American and chooses not to support the LEGAL harvest of moose by BC resident hunters, I guess that's his choice. 8)

[rishu_pepper]

awesome pix and story! looks like a fun time.
- Have to question the total amount of shots tho???
4 shots then 7 shots?? at about 250yrds???
thats dangerous shooting there! shoulda hit the range up before the trip!
-Do you have any pix of you guys quartering the moose with a chainsaw???- sounds like some crazy stuff goin on!!!

Would like to reiterate, that was the first bull we saw. I made 2 out of 4 shots. Yes, my marksmanship isn't great, you can blame it on that, and neither was Andrew who managed to miss most of his 7 shots.


Thanks to Glenn for sharing your wisdom on bringing us to such a wonderful place and letting me be a part of your hunting party. It was a very nice gesture for you to bring us there.

Rishu; I would first off like to congradulate you on your successful moose hunt. Then I would like to pose some questions to you.

1.The place that your friend took you to was my home for thirty odd years.
2.The lake you took your moose from is home to a native indian family that migrated there when small pox was an issue with the native population. This family now consists of elders only from the age of 87 to about 65. Thier sole source of food comes from this small area that you have now made public to the entire intra web. Although I'm sure they will never see your posts, I'm just as sure your posts will now cause these harmless old folks much grief when thier food supply is decimated by the info given in your posts.
3. Normally hunters tend to keep spots like this quiet and continue enjoying successful hunting trips year after year. I would like to ask what you have hoped to gain by the information you have presented? With out any regard for the local area or people that have spent thier entire life, facing the cold harsh northern winters, without all the comforts you see in down town Vancouver.
4. Another one of your statements is " after 7 shots you didn't know if you hit anything" in total by your post, your group fired 20 some odd shots at moose on this lake. I have hunted for many many years both privately and proffessionally and never have I heard of such poor shooting. You not only have made the area as known as Granville street in Vancouver but you may as well open a hamburger stand for wasted meat you most likely left behind.
5. Although I don't know you and probably never will. I hope you never find another spot like this and return to the diet of rice and eye balls I see posted above.

Bill Sorensen

Bill,

Allow me to answer your questions:

1) You must enjoy the area, it's a beautiful place up there.
2) We did actually run into one of the Native person up there. We had a good chat and he gave us some pointers about where to find other animals. We helped each other with our boats/quads. The exchange was very cordial. He seems like a welcoming guy and knowledgeable person.
3) All I said was Region 7B. That's a big area. If you can figure out the place by looking at the pics, great, but I'm sure less than a handful of HBC members can.
4) Please read carefully. I myself shot exactly FOUR rounds at the animal, hitting it twice, once in the front rib and the other in the heart (both bullets recovered). The 7 shots were fired by Andrew, a 14-year-old young man (who has harvested many animals before). Who knows, maybe the excitement got the best of us. Last I heard, missing is not illegal. We killed the moose without it suffering much (it died within 1 minute). There were no wasted meat.
5) I have no comment.


At least one of them already had a Moose. Did he not? How is it legal for him to shoot at a second moose? Please explain.

After the first moose was shot by me, I cut my tag, then I never fired another shot in the next 8 days. Andrew shot and killed his moose (the second one). What is the problem here?


My only question is. As hunters in this province, we are sportsmen who are constantly viewed by nonhunters and anti's as killers and decimators of wildlife populations. Should we be presenting the kind of image HIGHLIGHTED by Tod Bartell on a public forum. Then put forth in media and print, the fact that we are trying to promote more hunters in the Province. How do we as resident hunters hope to have any degree of success in accomplishing our goals of doing this. Let me remind you, one story of carnage by it self will ruin multiple stories of single shot ethical kills. :roll:
My local concern is the native family. I'm sure by the pictures posted and information given thier existance is going to somewhat suffer. These people live totally off the land, they tan hides to make footwear and survival gear. I know them all personnally and have the highest regard for what they have lived through and accomplished. Now that they are old and feeling the test of time. Do they deserve what could be the out come of this post to thier remaining few years?:sad:

I have as much concern for the Natives' plight as the next guy, but last I know, we killed 3 moose out of the many that still reside there. And it's not like the Natives there aren't doing very well, the guy has a quad and normal clothing. Granted I don't know them as well as you claim, but I do not believe showing these obscure pictures will lead ANYONE to know this area's existence, thus leading to a mass moose massacre. Besides, there is game management by the Ministry of Wildlife, setting limits and guidelines on what to shoot/when to shoot. If you want to chastise me for my bad shooting, fine, I'll take the blame for that, but please do not use unwarranted reasons to attack me personally and my ethnicity, which I take offense to. Thank you for your time.

[rollingrock]

I wok game meat and cook rice for all my white friends when they come over. They all said that they would take my rice over pizza. So I'd take his 5th question as a compliment. Rishu, don't even try to respond to him. Usually all the 'Bills' I know are wise fellows, but this one is an exception. But...where is the story? I went through the whole thread.

[rishu_pepper]

I wok game meat and cook rice for all my white friends when they come over. They all said that they would take my rice over pizza. So I'd take his 5th question as a compliment. Rishu, don't even try to respond to him. Usually all the 'Bills' I know are wise fellows, but this one is an exception. But...where is the story? I went through the whole thread.

I wholeheartedly agree. I love my rice :biggrin:

The story is on the first page, first post! :)

[rollingrock]

Ooops! Really! Aging sucks. :D

[rishu_pepper]

Ooops! Really! Aging sucks. :D

Sure does ;)

BTW I live like 2 minutes from the PoCo range now, so I'll be heading up more frequently. Will probably bump into you from time to time again 8-)

[lineofsight]

Brian, guess your diet can shift from donuts (as in Kamloops in April) to Moose, well done! Classy response to Willy.

[rishu_pepper]

Brian, guess your diet can shift from donuts (as in Kamloops in April) to Moose, well done! Classy response to Willy.

Haha I'm surprised you still remember that! For those not in the know, I was wolfing down those Timmy donuts in the F-class clinic in one chilly April morn. :razz:

[GoatGuy]

I don't recall making any claims of poaching. Flock shooting wildlife is not legal!
Are you helping or hindering?

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Due to recent cutbacks the "Sheep Sheriff" is now also acting as "Moose Sheriff":roll:.

As mentioned... if someone recognizes pictures posted it's likely that they have previously been to that area.
Major deal??


SSS

[bigwhiteys]

I spent quite a while speaking with the old native ladies and the old fellow that lives with them (an American, IIRC) last time I was up there. From his stories about the moose meat we were watching them smoke and preserve, he indicated that he didn't hunt at the lake, but traveled to the north side of the highway to get their moose. The indian ladies don't shoot them, he does. The native ladies smoke and process them.

You did not meet all of them then... and further more, if you had met any of the "old" ones I highly doubt you speak Beaver and I highly doubt you would have understood a word any of them said. I've known them since I was a child and I don't understand a word they say aside from a bit of sign language that I can decipher.

You've got no idea the relationship my family had with them, who they are, what they do, their history, or anything else for that matter aside from one meeting where it sounds like Russ bs'ed you for a while. If you kept talking to him I am sure he would have told you the story about him landing on the moon. They can spin some good ones.

Quite a bit of history with that band and they are probably one of the hardiest bunch of people I've ever personally met. I hold an incredible amount of respect for them and what they have had to endure over the years. I find it funny, you have one chance meeting and are all of a sudden an expert on who they are and what they do!

I congratulated Rishu on his Moose. They each took a great bull. But I'll be honest, it sucks to see a spot you've enjoyed since childhood have the shit shot out of it and then revealing pictures posted on the provinces busiest hunting site. I'd be lying if I said that didn't irritate me a little, and most of you would be too!

That particular spot isn't really big enough for more then 1 group of hunters at a time without putting yourself or the other party into some potentially dangerous situations. Throw in the fact there about 40 head of the natives horses running around in there as well and a stray bullet could be costly.

As for the natives, I know they have lived through much worse and in a few more years they will most likely all be gone anyways and it won't matter... Many of the younger ones have switched to a different, much easier style of life. It's a really special place, I hope it stays that way.

Carl

[rishu_pepper]

I congratulated Rishu on his Moose. They each took a great bull. But I'll be honest, it sucks to see a spot you've enjoyed since childhood have the shit shot out of it and then revealing pictures posted on the provinces busiest hunting site. I'd be lying if I said that didn't irritate me a little, and most of you would be too!l

I understand your perspective and annoyance and I apologize. Next time I will be more careful posting pictures.


It's a really special place, I hope it stays that way.

I cannot agree more, everything about the place is simply amazing.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

I had someone recognize where BCRams and I went looking for white sheep this past yr(through a nice "subtle PM"). I would highly doubt that anyone could pinpoint the area unless thay had been there. This guy was a former guide in the area.

I will tell you one thing......the more attn this thing thread gets, the more att'n the area will get.
Would have been best to keep everything low key(I'm speaking of the reply posts...not the original).

SSS

[rishu_pepper]

I had someone recognize where BCRams and I went looking for white sheep this past yr(through a nice "subtle PM"). I would highly doubt that anyone could pinpoint the area unless thay had been there. This guy was a former guide in the area.

I will tell you one thing......the more attn this thing thread gets, the more att'n the area will get.
Would have been best to keeep everything low key(I'm speaking of the reply posts...not the original).

SSS

Very true.

I will ask the mods to lock it up.

[Elkhound]

Very true.

I will ask the mods to lock it up.

And was done at your request...just so people understand the issue