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BCHunter
11-26-2005, 03:59 PM
how many people here shoot or have shot one? what calibre/grain? and what kind of damage to the hide was there...

i'm guessing my 338 mag is a tad to much:cool:

guntech
11-26-2005, 04:37 PM
I've shot a couple hundred I guess. Mostly in Alberta where I grew up.

We usually progressed from 22-250's to .270's and .280's as the snow got deeper. The reason being you need to see your misses to correct for the next shot. Often running coyotes were shot at 300 yards and more .. not on the first shot..

I have used:
.17 Remington - very good broadside out to 250 yards, no good at all running away. No pelt damage ever.
6mm-280 Improved 100 grain bullet (same velocities as .240 Weatherby) - excellent - shots less than 300 yards the bullet did not exit, no pelt damage at all.
.280 Rem. 139 grain bullet - fairly good, a bit of blow out on the pelt. About the same as a .270.

todbartell
11-26-2005, 04:38 PM
I've shot a few

7mm Mag 160 gr. Partition - just ripped him in two

260 Rem 100 gr. Ballistic Tip - nice fist sized exit

416 Rem Mag 400 gr. Hornady - fist sized exit


all bang-flops




Im starting to get geared up for this winters hunts :-)

BCHunter
11-26-2005, 04:41 PM
i was thinking of trying it...

calls, what are you guys using?

todbartell
11-26-2005, 05:14 PM
Im using Ed Sceery cottontail distress call, Johnny Stewart PC-1 predator call, and a Knight & Hale #920 Cottontail Call

for a locator I use a K&H howler


Fund$ permitting, I'm gonna look at getting a FoxPro FX3 digital later this winter :mrgreen:

3kills
11-26-2005, 06:07 PM
.303 british 180 grain federal power shocks...blew his one leg right off and had to put a finisher in him and it put a nice size hole through his next...both shots from about 200 yards...

Shoey
11-26-2005, 06:11 PM
I've used a .270 for most of my yote hunting, great gun! It's fast, flat and accurate over long distances.

A couple of times I found myself without the .270 I went to the .30-30 with 150 grain silvertips. It worked really good, and there was no pelt damage at all.

Most of my buddies use a .270 or a .22-250. One guy I know uses a .338 mag, but he really doesn't like coyotes.

As for calls we use a K&H Howler with awesome success. I've found the best time is in January and February when their screwing.

lip_ripper00
11-26-2005, 07:04 PM
12 ga when I lived on burns bog with a flashlight taped to the barrel double 00 was'nt to worried about pelts:razz:

Kirby
11-26-2005, 07:26 PM
12 ga when I lived on burns bog with a flashlight taped to the barrel double 00 was'nt to worried about pelts:razz:

Pit lamping is illegal...

Kirby

lip_ripper00
11-26-2005, 07:29 PM
not if their killing live stock!!

Gateholio
11-26-2005, 09:05 PM
I've shot them with 270, 300WM, 338WM, 7RM, 303.

They all died.:wink:

BCHunter
11-26-2005, 10:37 PM
your right..its not. A buddy had papers from the CO's to kill bears out of season anytime on his property. He did so at 2am in the morning, 338mag baby!

BlacktailStalker
11-26-2005, 11:44 PM
Shot one with my 300wsm on our moose trip, it was being chased by a cougar. Hit him running away at about 75 yards on an extreme quartering away angle right in the spine, he did a 270 on the road lol.

lapadat
11-26-2005, 11:51 PM
Rem 700 VS 223. 45 or 50 Grain JHP. Insides are gushy. Outsides are clean...minus an entry hole.

Sceery Cottontail or Jackrabbit in distress.

lapadat


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TinMan
11-26-2005, 11:56 PM
Bro just shot one this evening using .22. dropped him at 25yrds. he was using Primos rabbit call.

Tank
11-27-2005, 09:52 AM
Inside 50 yrds I have no doubt that .22 would work on coyotes, but is a coyote legal game for a rimfire in BC?

lapadat
11-27-2005, 10:05 AM
Yes. There are no firearm-related restrictions when it comes to hunting coyotes in BC. Heck, you could use a 17Mach2 if you wanted.

lap

ruger#1
11-27-2005, 10:15 AM
dam things are chasing my gsps when i let them out, they have taken so many cats and dogs here it isn't funny. no discharge of firearms isn't helping either. so have to use a bow. they are smart, cannot get close enough. was on the patio one day and watched one trot by at twenty yards, also watched bears at 40 yards grazing on dandy lions and grass from my patio.

Steeleco
11-27-2005, 10:35 AM
Put the coffe on Mark, I'll bring the camera!!!
BC I'm working on a 85gr nozler load for my 6mm rem. Should be good for yotes and deer alike.

brooksy
11-27-2005, 10:55 AM
shot most of mine with 22 mag. no calling, just shot when the opportunity arose, mainly from the seat of a tractor.

have dropped them on site with the 22 mag, and also had some run and get filled with 5+ shots. minimal pelt damage if any at all

brooksy

bushape
11-27-2005, 11:08 AM
It'd be like shooting your own dog.

ruger#1
11-27-2005, 11:23 AM
sorry bush id rather shoot one of them then have them attack my kid.or eating one of my dogs. Ive watched them drag calf's away while the cow was giving birth when i worked on the farm. they are vermin, they have also whipped out the red fox population also pheasants and grouse. in nova Scotia where they never had coyotes, but had lots of fox, it is getting changed around. nice to have something migrate up from Mexico and clean up our native animals. got to love the idiot pest control guys to for live trapping the black squirrels and bringing them into the Fraser valley, now our native squirrels and flying squirrels are at risk. i have no heart for bleeding Hearts of Canada . they are ruining our country!

BCHunter
11-27-2005, 11:33 AM
It'd be like shooting your own dog.

I guess its each to their own...I have friends that feel the same way as you.

so whats the max range for a .22 rim on a coyote?

bushape
11-27-2005, 11:46 AM
I agree with you completely ruger, but I dont think you need worry about kids.Never been a documented case of that from a coyote or wolf. And so true about the squirrels, havent seen a red one in the the mainland for god knows how long.

Gateholio
11-27-2005, 12:11 PM
I agree with you completely ruger, but I dont think you need worry about kids.Never been a documented case of that from a coyote or wolf. And so true about the squirrels, havent seen a red one in the the mainland for god knows how long.

Coyotes have attacked children.

bushape
11-27-2005, 12:50 PM
When and where has this occured?

LOC
11-27-2005, 01:12 PM
From July '01
"Vicious coyote sunk its teeth into baby's cheek

Lora Grindlay
The Province; Canadian Press
A coyote attack on a Vancouver infant has revived the call for a large-scale coyote kill.
The little 14-month-old girl was attacked in the front yard of her home in the 2900-block of West 22nd Avenue, while her mother was gardening just metres away.
Her mom — who was picking weeds when the coyote quietly wandered up to the baby — scared the beast away with a kick.
The baby suffered two puncture wounds to her neck and a large cut on her cheek that needed 10 stitches to close.
"The coyote actually had attached and bitten the child in the face area, and was holding on to the child," said Vancouver police spokesman Det. Scott Driemel. "The coyote sunk its teeth into the face and the cheek, and was shaking its head back and forth with the baby's head in its mouth."
The baby was in good condition in hospital yesterday after the attack Monday at about 8 p.m.
The attack comes about a week after another coyote tried to drag a six-year-old girl into some bushes at a Coquitlam tennis court."

http://www.varmintal.com/attac.htm list lots more...

Buck_virgin
11-27-2005, 01:31 PM
Just last year I think 2 children at a daycare in calgary were attacked by a coyote right in town.

Gateholio
11-27-2005, 02:36 PM
When and where has this occured?

There have been a couple of coyote attacks on children in the lower mainland in the last couple of years, they were highly publicized...

Never read the paper, or watch the news?:-)

As well, check LOC's link, lots of coyote attacks on kids all over the place.

rrfred
11-27-2005, 02:39 PM
coyotes are very efficient predators capable of bringing down deer sized animals, and they seem to be evolving into pack like behaviour- i've seen them in large groups before. (nbl) suggests theres lots. I shoot them any chance I get when there's an open season, now the region 8 season has been extended :D , will be seeking them out too. have used 300 win mag, 7 mm rem mag, 3030 and 7mm08 on them- not much left, will take them on with centerfire 22 this winter.

todbartell
11-27-2005, 03:42 PM
I personally would not suggest the use of a rimfire for coyotes. they work sometimes, but not always. although the coyote is a maggoty creature, we still owe it a quick clean death. I respect coyotes, as I realize they're damn effective predators. Knight & Hale said in their video "when the world ends, there will be two creatures left, the cockroach and the coyote"

as for attacks, its happened. do a search on google on 'coyote attacks'

This year Im going to be loading all my rifles ready for yote action. plan is to load 50 gr. Hornady SXSP in my 223 (as well as a reduced low muzzle blast load for hunting close to residences ~ 40 gr. Vmax or Barnes Varmin-A-Tor over Bluedot pistol/shotgun powder for 2900 fps instead of 3600+), 75 gr. Vmax in my 25-284, 87 gr. SPeer hollowpoints in my 260 Rem, and 110 gr. Vmax in my 30-06

Steeleco
11-27-2005, 03:53 PM
So any decent spots in the Lower Fraser valley area??
I'm willing to help a farmer protect his herd's. I know farmers in the Cariboo hate both yotes and wolves. They are famous for taking newborns while the mother is still giving birth.

BCHunter
11-27-2005, 05:10 PM
i may get out next weekend and try this CD i made up..338mag all the way!

bushape
11-27-2005, 05:39 PM
Lol, my memory has failed me. I stand corrected.

BCHunter
11-27-2005, 05:45 PM
I'll video it too and instead of dogbegone.com it will be coyotebegone.com!!!!!

todbartell
11-27-2005, 06:01 PM
good luck, post up your findings

338 mag, boy are you crazy! :mrgreen:

BCHunter
11-27-2005, 06:16 PM
my wife says i am!

what can i expect with the 338mag?

Gateholio
11-27-2005, 06:36 PM
good luck, post up your findings

338 mag, boy are you crazy! :mrgreen:


I have shot 4 coyotes with a .338 Winchester Magnum

todbartell
11-27-2005, 07:09 PM
what can i expect with the 338mag?


insufficient penetration and weak blood trails

sniperontheridge
11-27-2005, 09:30 PM
bchunter.the 338 will work if you shoot em through the lungs .as i have seen it done before. my friend shot one at about 200 yards .broadside.pinky size hole in and out .surprising.

BCHunter
11-27-2005, 09:46 PM
sniperontheridge, I like the handle name:twisted:

I'll give it a try hopefully this saturday..

thanks

todbartell
11-27-2005, 11:51 PM
what kind of scope you got on your coyote 338 there?

BCHunter
11-28-2005, 12:16 AM
3-12x40mm Bushnell, it has an rotating front lens to set it for distances up to 400 yards

todbartell
11-28-2005, 12:29 AM
perfect for long distance precision shots

Ronforca
11-28-2005, 08:38 AM
One of the biggest problems with the Coyotes when I used to live out
on Sylvester Road was that they were cross breeding with dogs.We called them Coy Dogs and they seemed to be worse on livestock than the stock
variety.They were also braver as far as people were concerned.
Some of them were quite large.
Killed lots of Dogs,Cats,Sheep,Chickens and young calves while they were being born.One thing good that they do is help keep the mouse pop.down.
They were shot on sight twelve months a year out there.

PGKris
11-28-2005, 11:53 AM
.303 british 180 grain federal power shocks...blew his one leg right off and had to put a finisher in him and it put a nice size hole through his next...both shots from about 200 yards...

Good to know my .303 will work :grin: Hopefully hole isn't too big

Farmer
11-28-2005, 04:15 PM
We use whatever is handy. 243, 270, 30.06, and 12 gauge. As it was mentioned , they will all kill coyotes. We never worry about the hides here in the Fraser Valley. They tend to be of poor quality. Often rubbed and ratty. I saw one a week ago that had only a tuft of hair on the end of his bare tail. He got off the road before I could get him with the van. I have had many drop on the shot but I have also had some run 100 yards with a fist size exit in their chest. We often drive a brush patch to a waiting hunter with a 12 gauge. Very effective to 60 yards when you were allowed to use BBs. Now with the buckshot regulation there will be injured coyotes getting away. 58 pellets gives a lot better pattern than 12 and BBs would penetrate to the far side of the coyote at 60 yards.
Around the farm coyotes are considered a pest and treated as such. But that doesn't mean it is not fun going after them.
Have fun BCHunter

Gord

Greenfields
11-28-2005, 04:43 PM
What do you do with the pelts? If you keep them that is.

Cheers
Brian

PGKris
11-28-2005, 05:08 PM
Plan to sell them.....that's a whole nother thread.....anyone know where and who to sell them to? Local taxidermist won't take them....

TinMan
11-28-2005, 05:57 PM
I agree with you completely ruger, but I dont think you need worry about kids.Never been a documented case of that from a coyote or wolf. And so true about the squirrels, havent seen a red one in the the mainland for god knows how long.
There was 2 wolf attacks here in Saskatchewan near the uranium mine. Guy got it in a head lock until help arrived and it ran off. The other 22 yr old killed was killed by a wolf about 2 weeks ago. I know these arent childeren but if they would attack a man y not a kid. In US ther have been cases of kids getting attacked by coyotes.

Gateholio
11-30-2005, 02:30 PM
3-12x40mm Bushnell, it has an rotating front lens to set it for distances up to 400 yards

This is called an Adjustable Objective lens.

It is designed to sharpen images at various ranges, but most importantly, it is to eliminate parallax.

Mark_S
11-30-2005, 08:04 PM
This is called an Adjustable Objective lens.

It is designed to sharpen images at various ranges, but most importantly, it is to eliminate parallax.


You mean its not a built in range finder????;-)

Thunderstix
11-30-2005, 08:24 PM
And of course wolves have attacked humans many many times in North America. In India they were/are having trouble with wolves dragging litle kids out of the villages.

Gateholio
11-30-2005, 09:21 PM
You mean its not a built in range finder????;-)

hahahah Nope.:razz:

BCHunter
11-30-2005, 09:30 PM
......nope.

BCHunter
11-30-2005, 09:33 PM
here are the value of the hides

COYOTE Fair Demand. Select #1, Alta-Sask, gd color, hvy, XLGE $55-$60,
MED&SM.$25-$26. Hvy Gd #2’s 30% less.

ruger#1
11-30-2005, 10:13 PM
thats not bad money BC, i think i will use the bow and take some out of my property. a few guys Ive met use a halibut hook with a chicken on it when they hear the howling . then they take it out with a baseball bat.

Mattimoose
05-07-2007, 03:56 PM
thats not bad money BC, i think i will use the bow and take some out of my property. a few guys Ive met use a halibut hook with a chicken on it when they hear the howling . then they take it out with a baseball bat.

Yeah, big treble hooks work good hung-up too with some clothesline as the animal impales itself and when you get there, he's just spinning in the breeze as their snout is full of blood vessels, and they bleed to death. Don't get caught though as game wardens see catching someone using this set almost as good a trophy as catching a Finnlander with a trap-hook before he can cut the line!

It's right-up there with soaking a synthetic sponge with gravy to starve a trespassing dog to death, or for that matter how the Japs fed starving american prisoners dry rice when they were really hungry and gave them gallons of water after in what was thought kindness, but once their bellies started expanding all to hell they realized the guards were betting money on who'd pass-out first from the pain!

I guess there's nothing really better than to just snare them.

Pete
05-07-2007, 05:07 PM
Yep. Hanging a fish hook from a line sounds really humaine to me..........:frown:

boxhitch
05-07-2007, 05:31 PM
a few guys Ive met use a halibut hook with a chicken on it when they hear the howling . then they take it out with a baseball bat.
Another urban myth ? Or are there really that many sadists in your circle of travel ?

30-06
05-07-2007, 05:42 PM
friend shot at one with the 300 mag..big hole in the snow..no coyote

StoneChaser
05-07-2007, 05:55 PM
Yeah, big treble hooks work good hung-up too with some clothesline as the animal impales itself and when you get there, he's just spinning in the breeze as their snout is full of blood vessels, and they bleed to death. Don't get caught though as game wardens see catching someone using this set almost as good a trophy as catching a Finnlander with a trap-hook before he can cut the line!

It's right-up there with soaking a synthetic sponge with gravy to starve a trespassing dog to death, or for that matter how the Japs fed starving american prisoners dry rice when they were really hungry and gave them gallons of water after in what was thought kindness, but once their bellies started expanding all to hell they realized the guards were betting money on who'd pass-out first from the pain!

I guess there's nothing really better than to just snare them.

Mattimoose...the King of dead thread ressurection!

A quick glance and you've dug up at least 9 threads from 2005/06 in the last 24hours...let'em die man!

Do you spend all day reading the archives or what?

Get a life...if dragging up 2 year old threads to write shit like this the best thing you have to do with your time you need help....

Pathetic!

Gateholio
05-07-2007, 06:00 PM
Treble hooks?

Baseball bats?

Gravy soaked sponges?

Locked.........