my black and yellow labs are both pregnant

[leadpillproductions]

both my dogs are both pregnant they are pure breed the father is also pure breed what can i expect to sell the pups for the parents are not registered

[lilhoss]

mixed bag,could be some chocolates as well.Have a "puppy pool".Always amazed at what ends up in the mix.depends on the dominant genes on both sides.Will you be looking for new homes in a few months?

[leadpillproductions]

you bet i will be keepimg 1 mabey 2 of them but thats it

[Marc]

Well if the parents aren't registered then they can not be called "pure breed" and neither can the pups.

Pure breed registered dogs go through a series of examinations to check their hips, eyes, and elbows before they are cleared to be bred to try to minimize passing on any genetic issues to their off spring, if it's a reputable kennel.

I'm guessing you might get 200-300 a pup with no papers.

[crazysheephunter]

both my dogs are both pregnant they are pure breed the father is also pure breed what can i expect to sell the pups for the parents are not registered
Hey just wondering where your located, have been thinking about getting a dog, a lab to boot, but have considered the Choclate Lab,Let me know on a price and what you end up with.

[Ddog]

Marc is right on this, i bred labs for years and if they are not registered the average price for the pups could go as high as 400 but generally they are between 200-300, with the first set of shots paid for by the owner(seller) of the pups.
My boy sired about 40 pups, some registered,some not. the owners of the bitches were always given pictures of the sire so the potential buyers could see him. Its a good idea if you can do that to.

[leadpillproductions]

im up in chetwynd and i was thinkin around 300.00 per puppy
we will also give them there first shots

[Busterbrown]

both my dogs are both pregnant they are pure breed the father is also pure breed what can i expect to sell the pups for the parents are not registered

There is no such thing as a purebred dog that is not registered. Being registered with the CKC or AKC is what makes them a purebred.

[leadpillproductions]

ok then both parents are labs with no papers no other dog just labs

[waistdeep]

keep me in mind when it comes time to sell, I may consider taking a boy off your hands

[leadpillproductions]

waistdeep i will be in touch

[Kasomor]

Well if the parents aren't registered then they can not be called "pure breed" and neither can the pups.

Pure breed registered dogs go through a series of examinations to check their hips, eyes, and elbows before they are cleared to be bred to try to minimize passing on any genetic issues to their off spring, if it's a reputable kennel.

I'm guessing you might get 200-300 a pup with no papers.

Speaking of health clearances, including the ones that Marc mentions, I wouldn't touch a lab whose parents have not been tested for the EIC gene. Especailly when looking for a hunting dog. To put all that time and training in for nothing is a huge waste. Most lab breeders also do eye clearances BEFORE the pups leave their home.

Kasomor

[born2hunt]

Are they the british or american style lab? others words short n stocky or tall and lanky?

[leadpillproductions]

the mothers are short and the father of the pups is a monster

[dutchie]

Pictures man!!! no one can resist a cute puppy picture!!!

dutchie

[leadpillproductions]

as soon as the pups are born will put pics up

[leadpillproductions]

here is some pics of my females
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/2009_0324walkwithdogs0008.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/2009_0324walkwithdogs0019.jpg

[leadpillproductions]

yes i can there all labs

[leadpillproductions]

i know the mother of my two female and there dad and the dad of the pups so i know pretty good that there labs!!!

[Barracuda]

Humm, I always thought the only way to be sure is if they were registered with the CKC.

Or another sanctioning body.

[leadpillproductions]

OK, there are definitely others for sure:

The Kennel Club http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/ (http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/)

The Scottish Kennel Club http://www.scottishkennelclub.org/ (http://www.scottishkennelclub.org/)

The Westminster Kennel Club http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/breedinformation/sporting/engsprsp.html (http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/breedinformation/sporting/engsprsp.html)

The American Kennel Club http://www.akc.org/ (http://www.akc.org/)

Just to name a few I’d accept without reservation.

I’m not sure leadpillproductions qualifies. He cannot even spell.

Always remember – It costs the same to feed a purebred that you can pretty much expect and get what you are paying for with few surprises and guarantees as it does for a dog with uncertain lineage and no guarantee.

I know that may sound harsh but a dog lives for 12 plus years and today a quality Labrador from a reputable breeder costs less than a $1000 with all shots plus PRA and hip guarantees as well as proven hunting/field trial and show stock.
im not saying im a registered kennel just said my dogs are going to have pups and i will be selling them so if you dont have anything to say add dont leave a post thhanks for every one that has had something usefull to say keep it up those that that figure thats bashen someone whos just offering a good deal on a dog move on to a different post thanks

[springpin]

Well said LeadPill. I am Interested in a pup. Let me know how things go.

Chad

[leadpillproductions]

Well said LeadPill. I am Interested in a pup. Let me know how things go.

Chad

thanks and i will let you know when there ready

[BC Hunter]

im not saying im a registered kennel just said my dogs are going to have pups and i will be selling them so if you dont have anything to say add dont leave a post thhanks for every one that has had something usefull to say keep it up those that that figure thats bashen someone whos just offering a good deal on a dog move on to a different post thanks


Ah, t'was I you were refering to in "Negative Posts". :idea:

[chilcotin hillbilly]

BC hunter who gives a rats $%@ if leadpills pups don't have papers, $300 for a nice lab is a great deal. This whole papered thing is just something for people to beat their chests with. If you have time to run around competing your dogs to put a badge on your chest you are not out hunting enough. I am sure pure breds don't retrieve, point , track or tree any better then grade dogs or even crosses if the pups come from proven parents. I thought you of all people would have known this.:?

[leadpillproductions]

hey i had a tasco titan it was great hahaha

[leadpillproductions]

that make no sense to me what are you talking about
?????

[leadpillproductions]

oh ok i see

[leadpillproductions]

not sure how many there going to have each i have no idea

[dutchie]

And for you Hillbilly, 'cause you cain't have that many fingers and toes - $4,800


8 times 2 equals 16 puppies

16 puppies times $300 each comes to $4,800


Litter Size: The Labrador Retriever has an average litter of 7-8 puppies.

http://www.puppiesanddogsforsale.com/dog_breed_info/LabradorRetriever.asp

Give it a rest... You have nothing productive to say so let the guy sell his dogs an leave it alone.

dutchie

[deerslayer2]

Leadpill.... Nice looking dogs. Can you PM me when the pups are ready. Thanks.

[leadpillproductions]

Leadpill.... Nice looking dogs. Can you PM me when the pups are ready. Thanks.
i will be in touch

[chilcotin hillbilly]

BC hunter you must not know many big game guides if you think they all use pure bred hounds. Birds are probably a different story, . Guides want something thats reliable day in day out and if that is a cross of some sort so be it . Most guides are not weekend wariors so looks and papers don't mean as much.

[quackquackbang]

Hmmmm looks like we have another mister know it all!!! If I were looking for a dog right now I would take one off your hands for sure. Hopefully they will all find good homes.

[Barracuda]

BC hunter you must not know many big game guides if you think they all use pure bred hounds. Birds are probably a different story, . Guides want something thats reliable day in day out and if that is a cross of some sort so be it . Most guides are not weekend wariors so looks and papers don't mean as much.

just thought i would point out that this is not BCHunter (Danny) on here it is BC Hunter which is a different person all together.

[SHACK]

I can see what BC hunter is trying to get across, maybe not in the right way, but I get it.
Leadpill, I sincerely wish you luck with finding HOMES for all of the pups after a problem free whelping from both bitches. This is going to be a very tough task I'm sure, especially if they each have a large litter, but "usually" bitches dont throw a HUGE litter the first go....I said "usually" however Im sure they will make someone good pets.
Get prepared though, it can become a very laborious, and costly endeavor should any type of problems occur. I suggest you get your bitches in for an ultrasound in the near future so you know how many pups they are going to throw, so you can do your best to line up homes in advance.
don't forget the dew claws when they are a few days old too. Aw shit the list is a mile long, but start doing some serious research into having pups, and get a vet on the program for any problems and the whelping if this is your first! Just saying that by your responses you are not prepared for this, and you should have been.
Any way you slice it pups are great, and I hope you and your family enjoy the experience.

[Conrad74]

Here is a picture of my paperless "Mutt"- $200 from a BYB , not sure what kind of dog he is ?

[chilcotin hillbilly]

just thought i would point out that this is not BCHunter (Danny) on here it is BC Hunter which is a different person all together.
Well thats a relief, this BChunter really had me confused as I thought Danny was more interested in catching game, not milking cows.:lol:

[leadpillproductions]

you really have nothing better to do

[Gateholio]

I have brought this thread to the attention of the BC Labrador Retriever Club.

Why? Do you think they want to buy one of leadpills dogs?

[leadpillproductions]

hahahaha that made me almost fall off my chair thanks gatehouse that was good

[leadpillproductions]

here are some pics from today

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/2009_0410playingingravelpit0021.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/2009_0410playingingravelpit0015.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/2009_0410playingingravelpit0027.jpg

[leadpillproductions]

took my dogs out for a run there getting big how much can you run a dog when pregnant

[quackquackbang]

No, I really don’t care what people want to buy. Now that leadpill is going to have 16 or so puppies to deal with I hope all find a good home. Too many dogs have terrible lives and nothing deserves that.

I do have an objection, though, to any idea that dogs other than those that are registered though a certifying body such as the CKC are purebred. I have a number of long time friends who have been breeders of Labradors, some for more than 30 years, who are hard working dedicated people that only want to improve the breed. They go to a lot of expense to certify and guarantee their dogs. They tour the shows and field trials to gain recognition for their animals, some attend the top shows in the world including Crufts in England. Their whole lives are dedicated to improving and preserving the breed.

I enjoy sporting dogs, particularly the Labrador Retriever. I have owned a number over the years. I prefer bitches because I find them a little easier to train. Because I cannot dedicate the time and effort that these breeders put in I buy my bitches under a non-breeding agreement from the breeders. I have my bitches spayed as soon as is practicable.

As I said I really don’t care what people buy just so long as they don’t try to pass them off as something they are not.

Unregistered dogs are not purebred, period.


lol...if you dont care why are u making a big stink over it!! he never asked anyone to do an investagation into if his dogs are pure breed or not!!Good looking dogs you have there best of luck with the pups!!!

[Marc]

Give it up guys or you'll both get a time out.

[dutchie]

I have brought this thread to the attention of the BC Labrador Retriever Club.

congrats... we don't care

dutchie

[f350ps]

Give it up guys or you'll both get a time out.
Can't understand this statement, pretty civil I think. But this thread makes me scratch my head. So I have a papered black bitch and I breed her with a papered male but I don't CKC register the pups so they aren't Labs? Gimme a break!!! I've owned several Labs over the years, both registered and unregistered so I get the program, but a Lab is a Lab or it's a cross, papers only matter to he who gives a shite, like BCH. Giving what I know now you'd be hard pressed to sell me on another CKC Lab again. As far as I'm concerned some of the best dogs come from litters like Leadpills "PuppyMill". Flame-on BCH. K

[mrdoog]

Hope all the pups are healthy, and they all end up in good homes.

Even if they aren't "Purebred", dream up a new name and sell them as designer dogs.

People pay big bucks for mutts with names like Labradoodles, or Cockapoos.

[Marc]

Can't understand this statement, pretty civil I think. But this thread makes me scratch my head. So I have a papered black bitch and I breed her with a papered male but I don't CKC register the pups so they aren't Labs? Gimme a break!!! I've owned several Labs over the years, both registered and unregistered so I get the program, but a Lab is a Lab or it's a cross, papers only matter to he who gives a shite, like BCH. Giving what I know now you'd be hard pressed to sell me on another CKC Lab again. As far as I'm concerned some of the best dogs come from litters like Leadpills "PuppyMill". Flame-on BCH. K

you haven't seen the last half dozen post that were deleted that had nothing to do with the thread.

[leadpillproductions]

i never thought about the laberdoodles hahah

[Gateholio]

I think it's already been established that these are not "certified" pure bred dogs....SO why keep harping on it?

There is no law that says your non purebreds can't get pregnant...Our dog had 8 puppies (mutts) and they all went to good homes. Now she is fixed, so no more of that, although it was fun and all the new owners love thier dogs.


Anyway, for those that are not clear onthe topic:

LEADPILL HAS PREGNANT DOGS AND THEY ARE NOT PUREBRED!!:D

[leadpillproductions]

i actully thought labdoodles were an registered breed i didnt know

[Bow Walker]

Dogs are dogs are dogs. People who want "show" dogs or dogs for "Trials" or for hunting very often look for "papered" pups. That's their prerogative. People looking for a friend aren't bothered by "papers".

[Barracuda]

Every time i log on i see "my black and yellow labs are both pregnant " .

I would like to add that despite what some have called me I did not do it :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[Islandeer]

Large litters are common. My bitch had 13,which she could not naturally deliver. Which cost 2500 bucks for a cesarian. Then there are shots,health clearances etc. we had to bottle feed for obvious reasons.

So be prepared. You should know your bitches dam's whelping history, this can give you a headsup on potential problems. Look up what you will need to assist in the births.

The pure bred debacle is not about showing off, or parading around titles and such, it is about keeping the breed clear of defects,disease,etc. Minor things like eye clearances,hip,elbow clearances and other health issues. Birdiness,tractability,drive and disposition are also a MUST.

Good luck with your litters,hope the bitches and pups will be okay.

[leadpillproductions]

A couple more days till the puppies are here there getting big.

[JRG94]

dream up a new name and sell them as designer dogs.

People pay big bucks for mutts with names like Labradoodles, or Cockapoos.

anyone have a female standard poodle they want to breed i came up with for a chesapeake cross standard poodle!!! :D:mrgreen::-P

[leadpillproductions]

She started to have pups one yellow male so far

[huntergirl270]

Congratulations... Post some pics when you get a chance :)

[leadpillproductions]

5 so far 3 yellow two black come on chocolate ones

[plumbob]

So come on keep us posted here!!

[leadpillproductions]

So far 3 yellow 3 blacks will post some pics soon

[plumbob]

Look foward to seeing the pic's

[leadpillproductions]

here are some pics nows there seven 4 y 3 black

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/DSCF0936.jpg?t=1243227009
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/DSCF0939.jpg?t=1243227199

[hunterofthedeer]

here are some pics nows there seven 4 y 3 black

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/DSCF0936.jpg?t=1243227009
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/DSCF0939.jpg?t=1243227199
so no chocolates

[leadpillproductions]

no chocolates yet but there still coming
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/rugerpups3.jpg?t=1243229559
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/DSCF0928.jpg?t=1243229886

[hunterofthedeer]

no chocolates yet but there still coming
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/rugerpups3.jpg?t=1243229559
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/leadpillproductions/DSCF0928.jpg?t=1243229886
now look your pics are making me want to get another lab for sure now:smile:

[leadpillproductions]

4 yellow and 4 blacks looks like there still more

[mrdoog]

Momma looks like she's got everything under control.
Nice clean pups.
How are you holding up?

[leadpillproductions]

First time doing this kinda nervous . thought she was going to eat them ,phones my buddy who knows dog, he just laughed at me she was cleaning them.

[plumbob]

great pic's keep us updated

[leadpillproductions]

total of 9 5 yellow 4 black

[Sasquatch]

Congrats! Make sure you get some pics up.

[Crazy_Farmer]

I hate to post this as its from peta, but in general this has to be one of the funniest videos ever. Pretty much sums it up for me. Pure breds are nice but it isnt the end of the world to without them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxAaK0iJ2vQ

[hunterofthedeer]

have both your dogs had pups or just one?

[leadpillproductions]

Just the yellow the black didn't get pregnant

[plumbob]

Hopefully at 9 she's done and sleeping,thats quite the litter.

[leadpillproductions]

Some more pics
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/lab_pup1.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=14254&size=big&cat=500)
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/ruger_and_pups.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=14255&size=big&cat=500)
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/ruger_pups_2.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=14256&size=big&cat=500)

[leadpillproductions]

1 black female, 1 yellow female,7 boys.

[hunterofthedeer]

quite a few males in that batch eh!

[leadpillproductions]

2 females thats it 1 y 1 black

[leadpillproductions]

All the puppies found homes thanks everyone who bought one .

[plumbob]

What about monster did you guys end up keeping him?His sister is just about doubled in size since we picked her up.

[leadpillproductions]

we keeped monster and the blond one sako

[leadpillproductions]

I've decided to only keep 1 dog so there is 1 yellow male left