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SUAFOYT
02-01-2009, 10:39 PM
Let me first apologise to those that want field pics of animals like I do. It was -35 and nothing was operating- especially my hands.

We left on the 17th and the following 3 days the temp reached a high of +16C. Crazy! We saw no elk or sign of elk anywhere. Tomslake, Groundbirch, Sunset Prairie, and Taylor. The private land that we had reserved through the ministry had no sign at all and the one owner said he hadn't seen anything since October. We saw moose and lots of deer, mostly mulies and some nice bucks. Some of the moose had lost one side of their antlers and others still had both. The snow was not deep at all and the conventional wisdom up there was the natural forage was of real good quality and so no need for them to hit the hay bales. I believe that the gasfield activity has to have something to do with game patterns. The activity, no matter where we went and at what time was crazy busy. Trucks and equipment and noise non stop.

On the 23rd we decided to try around Chetwynd, Hudson's Hope and out through Charlie Lake. It was finally cooling off and it couldn't get anything but better as we still hadn't had a single elk sighting. On that day we saw 117 deer, 22 moose and finally at Bear Flats, elk. We counted 90 in various herds and they were all on the side hills in the sun. This private land thing is a nightmare IMO. You almost have to hunt with a land map, phone book and a cel phone. Then you have to make contact and make damn sure of the landowner's real intent even if you think they have given you permission. And the elk have to be patient as well. We made contact with 2 owners and got permission. By this time it's 2 pm and we are hanging in for the night bite. I go onto land that is on top of the side hills, and my wife and our youth hunter are on a different piece. I catch 2 moose bedded down in the brush so work away from them. I catch some movement and 60 yds away are 2 cow elk. They haven't seen or scented me but must have heard me as they just walked away. I had no shot as way too much brush in the way. At dark I'm picked up and I learn that our youth hunter has made a tactical error. He and my wife spotted 1 cow bedded on a hillside across a draw from them. 200 yard head shot. My wife tries to get him to work with her into some cover and see if there are any more and a better shot. Too many hormones and 15 years old. He tries the shot off hand and to no one's surprise but his he misses. Upon checking he discovers several other beds. Lesson learned.

We decide to come back at first light on the 24th and give it a last try as we have to leave that day for home. We figure if nothing by 11 am we're outta there. I start the truck in the AM and it's a balmy -38. By the time we get to Taylor it's -42 and the palm trees are out. We spot a small herd on a side hill where we have permission to hunt. My wife is 5'2" and decides she'll only hold us back so the youth and I start the stalk. It's as steep as a cow's face in spots and I'm carrying extra weight (my gut) and it's a slow process. Part way up we spook a moose that breaks uphill and that pushes the elk higher. After 1 1/2 hours we finally spot 2 elk right at the top. One is zoned on us so we stay to the downhill side of the draw and try to get closer. We get within maybe 200-250 yds and I tell the young guy to get to a rest and when he gives me a thumbs up to have a go. The small tree I was going to use as a rest was no good as brush in the way. I'm now on my belly crawling over the brow of the hill and have a shot at one. Matt misses his first shot as do I. His 2nd hits and this is the highest one. It starts cartwheeling down the slope and the others stampede downhill right toward us. Good thing. Another shot from me and the other one is down.

Matt's father arrives and after high fives starts the real work. Matt and I go all the way back to get a meat saw and some water as we're thirsty as hell. I thought I was going to die on the trip back up. I'm too old for this. After much grunting and cursing we have the animals quartered but now we have to get them all the way down to the highway. We drag them to the brow of a hill and start pushing them over. They go a little bit at a time and it takes forever to get them within 600 yards of the truck. At 7 pm and -35 we finally have to tarp them and give up. We have some frostbite setting in and my fingers and nose hurt like the devil. We're all completely spent.

We come back the next AM with a couple of loaned snowmobile toboggans and drag them up to where we had left the elk. 2 hours later they're in the truck and we're on our way home. We skinned them out at home and the meat is in real good shape. Don't know that I would like to do it again but anyone who says a private land elk hunt is a turkey shoot is full of it!

At the centre of this photo at the middle top you'll see a utility pole. The elk were at the clear patch at the top.
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This is the gruesome 3some pushing the quarters over the hill.
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Almost there- I'm the ugly brute in my favourite MEC fleece. I keep asking them to use me in their product catalogue but they always say no for some reason.
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Self explanatory
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Balmy weather at Charlie Lake
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Over they go
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Finall done
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Hope this wasn't too wordy but informative. Cheers.

Shermdog
02-01-2009, 10:47 PM
Wow -40, Burr haha. Nice work though looks like a fun trip, good story!!!

Fisher-Dude
02-01-2009, 11:19 PM
-40 is nice weather to hang meat, the flies usually leave it alone at that temperature. ;-) Congrats on filling the freezer.

hunter1947
02-02-2009, 06:24 AM
Suafoyt great story ,great hunt in very cold conditions.

I can see you really worked hard in these conditions to get the elk out.

Congratulations on your elk hunt as for the hard work trying to find them http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif.

Just one question I have ,why did you not have these snowmobiles lined up to use when you got there for your hunt ???? ,was it a last moment thought ????..http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif

SUAFOYT
02-02-2009, 08:37 AM
Suafoyt great story ,great hunt in very cold conditions.

I can see you really worked hard in these conditions to get the elk out.

Congratulations on your elk hunt as for the hard work trying to find them http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif.

Just one question I have ,why did you not have these snowmobiles lined up to use when you got there for your hunt ???? ,was it a last moment thought ????..http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif

Actually we had no sleds at all- we hauled the toboggans up. The landowner would not let any machinery on her land at all (atv or sleds) so it was the armstrong method.

GoatGuy
02-02-2009, 02:02 PM
tasty......

bckev
02-02-2009, 02:15 PM
Looks like the right kind of fun, Iwant to go hunting now. Looks like very little snow though.

bridger
02-02-2009, 02:39 PM
glad you had a sucessful hunt. hunting in the cold is not that much fun. are you sure you were in taylor? the pics look like the breaks at bear flats on the hudson hope road between fsjohn and the Hope. congrats again!

BCrams
02-02-2009, 02:44 PM
glad you had a sucessful hunt. hunting in the cold is not that much fun. are you sure you were in taylor? the pics look like the breaks at bear flats on the hudson hope road between fsjohn and the Hope. congrats again!

It is indeed just before you go up the hill at Bear Flats. The female owner of the majority of that surrounding area isn't too hunter friendly thats for sure.

GoatGuy
02-02-2009, 03:16 PM
glad you had a sucessful hunt. hunting in the cold is not that much fun. are you sure you were in taylor? the pics look like the breaks at bear flats on the hudson hope road between fsjohn and the Hope. congrats again!

that's what it looked like to me as well?

Thymallus
02-02-2009, 03:26 PM
It is indeed just before you go up the hill at Bear Flats. The female owner of the majority of that surrounding area isn't too hunter friendly thats for sure.

I think much of the land in behind bear flats is owned by the ministry of environment..grazing leases and such??

daycort
02-02-2009, 03:52 PM
I think much of the land in behind bear flats is owned by the ministry of environment..grazing leases and such??

Bcrams is refering to the land that starts at the log house at midway point of the climb and ends at the log house right on top on the right hand side back along the bush.

daycort
02-02-2009, 03:55 PM
I heard alot of stories about Mrs. London chasing people down.

BCrams
02-02-2009, 04:11 PM
I think much of the land in behind bear flats is owned by the ministry of environment..grazing leases and such??

A small chunk of land in there by environment (below the cliffs). The rest is administrative leased or owned by Meeks. Essentially off limits there as well unless he gives permission.

That land along the edge of the road is also an administrative lease by Irie Bentley....and she sure doesn't like hunters shooting her 'pet' deer and elk. All you have to do is pull over and look at the deer in that field or hill side and she comes a runnin to give you hell.

Rufus
02-02-2009, 04:30 PM
Congrat's on a sucessful hunt, good story. burrrrr.:cool:

SUAFOYT
02-02-2009, 05:18 PM
A small chunk of land in there by environment (below the cliffs). The rest is administrative leased or owned by Meeks. Essentially off limits there as well unless he gives permission.

That land along the edge of the road is also an administrative lease by Irie Bentley....and she sure doesn't like hunters shooting her 'pet' deer and elk. All you have to do is pull over and look at the deer in that field or hill side and she comes a runnin to give you hell.

This is what I meant by the private land hassle. In the pic that has my ugly mug up close, the land that we hunted on and are standing on, is owned, we were told, by Ken and Arlene Boon, by them. Does that sentence make any sense?:?: That is the 1/4 we shot on. In the first pic where I point out the utility pole, just below that is a fence line, and above that is the land that we were led to believe is what's owned by Irie Bentley. The side hill that's behind my right shoulder is what's owned by the folks about 2/3 of the way up the hill on the left. Like I said, you almost have to be a lawyer to get it right. I don't think any CO would have given us any problem with all of the checking that we did. The Boon's did give us some heat about where we shot, but after the fact and in the long run we did smooth things over.

BCrams
02-02-2009, 06:01 PM
The Peace region private land, administrative leased land, crown land can be a pita sometimes.

I'd recommend anyone / everyone to use the maps sold at Corlanes (Dawson Crk) or McElhaney's in Ft St John with all the boundaries layed out quite accurately. They give the land owner(s) names on each quarter section, half or full sections. The only thing which may change with time is ownership of the land and in some cases crown land becoming an administrative lease.

bridger
02-02-2009, 07:06 PM
most of the land along the hudson hope road is privately owned and a real problem even for local guys to access. I doubt if you could have been ticketed by a co as that land is not 1) posted 2) in crop or 3) fenced one of those three circumstances have to exist before a trespass charged can be laid. one another note I know mr and mrs boone fairly well and can tell you that they are really nice down to earth people. its just that the location of there land and the number of deer around lead to lots of problems with tresspass and people shooting deer in amongst their cows from the highway. as with most issues there are two sides to each story in any event I am glad you got some elk and that arlene let you have access to her land. all's well that ends well.

SUAFOYT
02-02-2009, 07:15 PM
most of the land along the hudson hope road is privately owned and a real problem even for local guys to access. I doubt if you could have been ticketed by a co as that land is not 1) posted 2) in crop or 3) fenced one of those three circumstances have to exist before a trespass charged can be laid. one another note I know mr and mrs boone fairly well and can tell you that they are really nice down to earth people. its just that the location of there land and the number of deer around lead to lots of problems with tresspass and people shooting deer in amongst their cows from the highway. as with most issues there are two sides to each story in any event I am glad you got some elk and that arlene let you have access to her land. all's well that ends well.

X2- I could not believe that while we were in speaking to them, not 50 yds away were about a dozen mulies feeding on a round bale with a rather large buck bedded in front of the bale. All that and 2 dogs that paid no attention to any of the deer. BTW, this land and all of these peoples' properties will completely disappear if the Site C project goes ahead.

bridger
02-02-2009, 07:20 PM
sad but true! an interesting side note is that mr & mrs boone and arlene's brother are about the only true land owners left in the flood plain. hydro has bought out the rest already.

Flingin' Sticks
02-03-2009, 05:49 AM
I love the people who have maintained that this is a turkey shoot. My family has had the draw twice for a grand total of 7 tags...of those 7 tags we've filled 6. total huniting time both trips combined...probably about 25hrs...total time spent killing one's mind and body, cursing the entire elk species like there's no tomorrow? probably closer to 40 hrs...

Damn fine meat though...