Wolf Trapping Thread

[proguide66]

I am hitting wolf trapping in the am...first time this yr. I am going to take pictures and document the whole process..from cheking 'track routes' to picking snare spots...placing snares , traps , bait...gear used and HOPEFULLY lots of success...as well , detailed pics of the aftermath.....hopefully it will tweek some interest and encourage guy's around the province to get into it and do some wolf trapping in there favorite hunting areas!!!:cool:.....its going to be a bit of a 'process' so dont expect kill pics right away...but will put up lots of interesting pics along the ' journey'....hopefully this turns out to be :cool:....wish me luck.

[Moosenose]

Do you have your own trapline?

[Pete]

In order to Trap in BC one has to have a Valid Trappers Licence which, you may already have. However, unless you have written permission, own a Regsitered Trapline or have a Permit it is unlawful set any traps on private property or on Crown Land. Page 92 Hunting & Trapping Regs. (Trapline Registration use and Relinquishment).Page 93 Trapper Education Program.

[proguide66]

Do you have your own trapline?


Guess a good point for curious guys to note is you dont have to own a trap line to trap....wich I dont....but you need to pass the trapping course and have a valid license. I have a govt permit to trap on a dormant line as well permission to trap on 3 other locally owned trap lines....if a line has shown no activity for 2 yrs plus , you can ask the ministry for a permit to trap....$50....you can also trap legally on private land via land owner permission,and open season on the animals targeted , even if the private land is within a trap line owners area.

[TIKA 300]

Thats sweet Proguide66

Give er all you got on them vermin !!!!!! :biggrin: :biggrin:

Cant wait for some pics.:cool: :cool:

[Will]

Sounds like you've done some Homework.....;-)

I've heard/read wolves are dam tough to trap ?

I Look forward to you documenting the process & Best of Luck :smile:

[killman]

Good luck. How do you go about getting a trapping license?

[thunderheart]

one of the ways i have seen it done is a circle of snares and bait .. obvious as all get out ,, bait for a while first so they get used to it ....if wolves in the area you will know before you set the snares ... after you set the snares make a ruckus when coming close to the set and the wolves will bolt .. if you lucky you get a wolf or two

[hitch]

Watch out for all them "dogs" . ***** !!!

[proguide66]

Watch out for all them "dogs" . ***** !!!
hehe.....' dogs watch out for ME'..:twisted:

Actually , I have found ( through utter trial and error)..the best method so far ( for me)..is to constantly follow the packs...find their trails , follow the trails...BUT...never walk on them...travel parallel as far away as possible...when they all narrow to a creek crossing , or maybe going around a rock bluff ect...pick your 'spot' on their trail...go straight in at it from 90 degrees to their trail...put on surgical gloves ( wich are in a zip lock bag with baking soda)..set snare....back out. ( I nailed most my wolves this way last yr).
Using bait doesnt always work. Wolves are VERY wary of meat they havent killed....I have drug a 600lb cow up an old road with my sled , left it for over a month and half...birds / bobcats ect...wolves didnt want it...month later...season closed , pulled my gear...wolves cleaned it up in one sitting:shock:....I will , however , be using deer legs and hide's in some spots with leg holds...then as well set snares up to 200 yrds away from the baits on suspect 'trails' or routes. Most of my success will be due to my gained knowlege of where I laready KNOW the doggies will be travelling8)...as well , I will have bottles of male dog urine to squirt on trees ect with two legs holds eagerly waiting..hehe......but....I'm going to make the call that my travel route snares are going to 'clean up' the most...last yr leg holds nailed 1....baited snare area 2 ...travel routes 4.....they RUN through the snares on trails due to being relaxed , not ' expecting it'...but they come in wearily to baits....you will NEVER have your stuff scent free..just the 2 stroke exaust from your cloths will cling to everything...but...just gotta KEEP AT IT.......' somebodys' 'gittin it' this week......and its gonna all be pictures on here...MMMWWWAAAAHHHH:twisted:

[Pete]

Good luck. How do you go about getting a trapping license?
You can contact the BC Trappers Assoc. @ 250 962-5452 in PG. Alana in the office will let you know where and when the next class is going to be or an instructor that you can get hold of. Wayne Sharpe at Trappers International 250 561-1602 is the local BCTA instructor in PG.

[killman]

You can contact the BC Trappers Assoc. @ 250 962-5452 in PG. Alana in the office will let you know where and when the next class is going to be or an instructor that you can get hold of. Wayne Sharpe at Trappers International 250 561-1602 is the local BCTA instructor in PG.


Thanks......................

[killman]

I have heard Wolves really like beaver(I know who doesn't), let it rot for a while and use it for bait.

[blacklab]

Wolves are easy to trap and snare, just sometimes tough to locate I found snaring around bait station to be the most productive in the winter.
Get them coming to a bait station then put out your snares. Winter trapping can work but is a lot more time consuming.
Good luck, as trapping oportunities are becoming more available more of us should be taking advantage of those opportunities.

[hunter1947]

Proguide66 that is very good that you are going to trap some wolves ,good for you.

I am also going to do the same thing ,using 3.32 snare wire as for the camlock as for leg hold traps.

Yes I will be getting ahold of Wayne sharp I will get him to send me some 3.32 wire as for I will make up my own snares ,I also will get some leg hold traps from him as for skunk scent ,skunk scent works the best I have been told from other trappers.

I have been doing a lot of phone calls to Vic and Nanimo about the procedure I need in place to trap on crown land or private land.

The info I got is that you have to have written permission from the land owner to trap on there land.

For crown land you need to have permission from the minister invirment and lands to trap on crown land.
You have to find out if there is a registered trap line within the area you are going to set your traps or other.

I still am in the procedure on getting everything in place ,I am still looking at maps to find out what is crown land and what is not ,there is so much land that is owned by timber west or other logging companies.

On the land I want to trap is owned by timber west and I have to get permission from them if I do get the ok ,then I have to get back to the ministry of water and lands and get the final ok from them to trap.


The best thing that you can do as becoming active in trapping is to go out with an experienced trapper that is doing wolf trapping and learn from them ,it will advance you trapping knowledge fast and learn what not to do and what to do.

[proguide66]

Proguide66 that is very good that you are going to trap some wolves ,good for you.

I am also going to do the same thing ,using 3.32 snare wire as for the camlock as for leg hold traps.

Yes I will be getting ahold of Wayne sharp I will get him to send me some 3.32 wire as for I will make up my own snares ,I also will get some leg hold traps from him as for skunk scent ,skunk scent works the best I have been told from other trappers.

I have been doing a lot of phone calls to Vic and Nanimo about the procedure I need in place to trap on crown land or private land.

The info I got is that you have to have written permission from the land owner to trap on there land.

For crown land you need to have permission from the minister invirment and lands to trap on crown land.
You have to find out if there is a registered trap line within the area you are going to set your traps or other.

I still am in the procedure on getting everything in place ,I am still looking at maps to find out what is crown land and what is not ,there is so much land that is owned by timber west or other logging companies.

On the land I want to trap is owned by timber west and I have to get permission from them if I do get the ok ,then I have to get back to the ministry of water and lands and get the final ok from them to trap.


The best thing that you can do as becoming active in trapping is to go out with an experienced trapper that is doing wolf trapping and learn from them ,it will advance you trapping knowledge fast and learn what not to do and what to do.


Good stuff!!!!..........quick note before I head out , our areas biologist helped me get my govt permit for the uin active line put forward in days!!!...so if you know the local bio , email him!!

[hunter1947]

Good stuff!!!!..........quick note before I head out , our areas biologist helped me get my govt permit for the uin active line put forward in days!!!...so if you know the local bio , email him!!

Thank's P66 I will find out who the locale Biol is in my area..

[kishman]

Go get 'em proguide!

[Wild one]

I have a trappers license but no trap line how do you do you find a inactive trap line and get a permit to trap on it?

[Jager]

I'm no trapper but I once heard that if you can collect scat from one pack and bring it into different packs territory they will get "upset" and lose some of their caution.

good luck. I look forward to seeing some pics.

[hunter1947]

I have a trappers license but no trap line how do you do you find a inactive trap line and get a permit to trap on it?

You get ahold of your nearest wildlife management and ask them to give you the number for the trapping section ,then go from there.

I talked to one of the head personal in Nanaimo about where I wanted to trap and they sent me the trap line areas that are registered ,it shows the registered area highlighted in dark lines.

I told the personal person my email address and they sent them to me.

If there is a registerd trap line active you can not trap on there registered line ,if they give you permission then you can trap in there area that is registered ,its up to the person that has this trap line to give you the ok or the no.

[proguide66]

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09001.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09002.jpg

Here's the main 'hardware'..snares hanging in tree..NOT TOUCHED since last spring.

[proguide66]

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09004.jpg


http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09005.jpg


Here's some VERY rut stinky hind leg 'hides' wired to a tree in a VERY well used wolf crossing.

The pic of a set snare has wolf tracks going through the last couple days.....note the twigs standing on end under the snare to keep the wolf's head up when he goes through.

I wired the hides high on a tree to keep the wolves ' milling around' a bit more in case I miss them when they travel through.

There's around 40 snares in this one spot. I am VERY confident there will be some success here in the next week...or up to month...either way , I WILL get wolves caught in this one spot.

[BlacktailStalker]

Thats really cool proguide, looking forward to following this thread.

[proguide66]

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09003.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09002.jpg

Here's more of ' the gear' for the task.

[proguide66]

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09007.jpg

Even of no success...look what ya get to see/do in the off season.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09008.jpg

[proguide66]

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09010.jpg

Un related to thread..but , here's one of our club's 'live deer' traps 'loaded' for action for a deer wrestle in the am.

[proguide66]

So..all in all...lots of good wolf sign , loads of bobcat sign. I'm not targeting cats , but the higher I set the snares , seems the higher the bobcats jump to get in them and comitt suicide!!...but , at $400 each , they can take some cost off of chasing wolves.

60 snares placed today...should have close to 200 to 250 snares out in the next week and half....then we shall see what comes !!:cool:

[todbartell]

looks more like a Gatehouse trap. If you look close you can see the Hustler mag and a six pack of kokanee in the back

[Mr. Dean]

I'm lookin' forward to the ride on this thread.
Should be a goodun'.

[ROEBUCK]

its this kinda stuff! that my family and me moved to this great place. were so lucky!

[hunter1947]

Good stuff!!!!..........quick note before I head out , our areas biologist helped me get my govt permit for the uin active line put forward in days!!!...so if you know the local bio , email him!!

P66 what does uin stand for ?????.

[Gateholio]

P66 what does uin stand for ?????.

inactive is my guess....Looks like a typo. I am familiar with typos:mrgreen:

[proguide66]

inactive is my guess....Looks like a typo. I am familiar with typos:mrgreen:


oops...yup....meant ' IN - active.....

[Pete]

So..all in all...lots of good wolf sign , loads of bobcat sign. I'm not targeting cats , but the higher I set the snares , seems the higher the bobcats jump to get in them and comitt suicide!!...but , at $400 each , they can take some cost off of chasing wolves.

60 snares placed today...should have close to 200 to 250 snares out in the next week and half....then we shall see what comes !!:cool:

Does your permit allow you to take all fur or just wolves only?

[proguide66]

OK..more pics....did more travelling today than setting....BUT...scored big on new trails.....found a place where a pack killed a deer..NOTHING left but a bit of fur.....note : where a wolf has killed/found meat in the past , it will check that EXACT spot out for the rest of his life...so...found a real good trail on a slope ( great for momentum through snares)...and left a deer leg ( low enough for them to get) in a patch of willow along the road intersection where the pack has been travelling often for generations. Also placed a hide....I CAREFULLY placed 2 snares on a 'perfect' spot on their main trail....as well randomly placed maybe a dozen snares in the willow patch with the deer leg....hopefully , one gets nailed..the others run back to it , or panick and get caught up in the willow patch.Here's whats left of the deer.http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09001-1.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09002-1.jpg

Nest photo is a great travelling trail ( the whole pack uses it).that goes through a 'veil ' of cedar branches..PERFECT:)

[proguide66]

Here is how great a snare can be in one of those cedar veilshttp://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09004-1.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09005-1.jpg
This is a little farther up the same trail..also on a slope..nice...

[proguide66]

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09007-1.jpg

Sometimes a tree is too big to choke with your snare wire...I use a few large fencing staples...initial struggle MIGHT pop out 1 staple..but the wolf will be VERY dead before he pulls out 2..I nailed 3 about 6 ft up the trunk.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09006-1.jpg

[proguide66]

Back at the road..20 yrds from last snare...20 yrds from deer kill...I hung the deer leg and a hide a few yards away from that...then placed snares all through the willow patch.
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09008-1.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09009-1.jpg

I hung the leg with another snare...low enough for them to get a hold of it...yet get a bit of a wrestle as well...all the while hopefully snaring up excited ' lesser' dogs in the pack.....want to clean up the pack..hopefully nOT get the alpha pair...why?..because if you do , the rest of the pack will breed uncontrolled...

[proguide66]

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09011.jpg

Note leg top left...snare bottom right.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09010-1.jpg

[proguide66]

Pack routinely travel's this stretch of road...the willow patch on right has bait , maybe 15 snares...cedar tree snares on left of road....
Any recreational sledders go by , who would notice.....:cool:


http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09012.jpg

[proguide66]

Followed the pack more...found a GREAT ridge back trail in the timber...this pack has used this ridge back for years and years..no deer sign anywhere...there was a GREAT stump at the edge of the timber..dropped off steep into the timber...perfect...( momentum once again)...but there was nothing to hang a snare...so...all the sudden a 'perfect little tree' appeared.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09013.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09014.jpg

This is a VERY high probability of a kill.

[proguide66]

Last but not least....followed the trail along the ridge ( parelled the trail from a distance)..found an AWESOME drop the wolves are ALL taking...steep...VERY well used...but no tree to snare to...so...cut an 8ft section of 4" green cedar...choked in the middle with the snare wire...hung loop over trail....when a wolf goes through , he/she pull's the cedar with it..causeing panick..chokes out dragging the log behind..wich in turn ALWAYS quickly snags up in the bush...quick dispatch....:biggrin:

I took photos from below looking up...and from the top looking down...

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09017.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09015.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/trapping09016.jpg

[proguide66]

There ya have it boys & girls.......pretty well coverd all my favorite 'flavors' of snaring for wolves....wish I had a big pile of moose or beef..but have to do with following them....I'll quit putting the boring pics up...hopefully in a week or more will have some success pics...:mrgreen:

ps.......about 90 snares out to date....160 to go ..I will use leg hold later in the season.

[killemall]

Doesnt really seem sporting or like hunting. Cover the forest in snares and wait for them to catch something not to mention using a deer meat for bait instead of food. Maybe im just uneducated on it. Is trapping more for money or to thin out wolf numbers?

[proguide66]

Does your permit allow you to take all fur or just wolves only?


All fur......that is legally open. I am motivated here only to help keep the wolf #'s down , goat/moose/deer #'s up....I am the only person trapping in our area:sad:.....I make enough income from my buis...not too keen on skinning for hrs on end at home!..lol.....

[proguide66]

Doesnt really seem sporting or like hunting. Cover the forest in snares and wait for them to catch something not to mention using a deer meat for bait instead of food. Maybe im just uneducated on it. Is trapping more for money or to thin out wolf numbers?


Follow the thread....hours and hours , years of time combined to MAYBE get some wolves.
When anture takes its course , the predators will peak...wich means all the other game will decline , take years to recover.....trapping wolves will hopefully keep all the #'s healthy for all to enjoy each yr.

The forest doesnt get " covered"......READ !.....the pack gets followed..snared where there is NO other sign....loose coments like the one you posted are NOT accurate and can cause a shit storm with other people that arent ' educated' on the topic.

" food " ??....are you suggesting I use 2 for 1 pizza specials and toss them in the forest??:shock:

[ElectricDyck]

I just read this one and have always wondered how trapping was done. Very interesting, I'm excited to see the results. Oh yeah those view pics of the valley above the clouds make me hate work more.;)

[Stresd]

Excellent thread proguide66. I am really looking forward to following your progress through the weeks. Thanks for taking the time to post the Pics with some great explanations of the reasons for where and why. :cool:
Thanks

[mark]

proguide, I too am loving this thread and your pics, Ive never been trapping but its something that has always intrigued me. Thanks for taking us along and keeping the wolf pop in check!

[boxhitch]

Have you had many snares bumped with out catching ? The loop looks kinda small and low ? Bobcat size. Those that know say 14" loop 14 " off the ground.
Good going, some good effort there, thats a bunch of snares. Making maps of layouts ? Its tough to keep track after a good storm.
Will be interested in seeing the results in spots wheere you have disturbed the feng-shui

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Will be interested in seeing the results in spots wheere you have disturbed the feng-shui

Or in this case... FANG shui...as in White Fang:smile:.

another reader anxiously waiting the results.......

SSS

[moosinaround]

This is education at its finest!! Threads like this show what we are trying to accomplish as wildlife managers! I too will follow this thread, and hope to see a "Bunch" of wolves being harvested!! GO GET EM!!! Moosin

[Islandeer]

Good trapping!! Keep your cool with the ill informed ... there is lot's of room for wolves,deer and trappers.....

[BigBanger]

I too am loving this thread and your pics

[thunderheart]

well done ! .. great pix .. not boring at all thankx for taking the time to post .. i am certain more than just me is curious what the next days posts will bring

[todbartell]

thanks for the posts Steve, Keep em coming :D

[Dirty]

Doesnt really seem sporting or like hunting. Cover the forest in snares and wait for them to catch something not to mention using a deer meat for bait instead of food. Maybe im just uneducated on it. Is trapping more for money or to thin out wolf numbers?

I don't think that trapping has ever been called a sport or hunting. Trapping is trapping. If you don't like it, head back to the Great Bear Rain Forest.

[ibehuntin]

Awsome thread! Very informative. I hope to be able to do the same thing one day, if I can ever get around to taking the trappers course. Keep err coming!

[BlacktailStalker]

Hey proguide, how bout some technical specs too?
Cam lock sizes, gauge of snare wire, how much "gut" do you like between your cam and the anchor point etc.

Keep it comin !

[hunter1947]

I can't wait to see the first wolf you get ,nice work on setting up your snares http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif.

[grumpy]

the cam locks are shiny in the pics put some dirt or something on them to dull them up

[proguide66]

Have you had many snares bumped with out catching ? The loop looks kinda small and low ? Bobcat size. Those that know say 14" loop 14 " off the ground.
Good going, some good effort there, thats a bunch of snares. Making maps of layouts ? Its tough to keep track after a good storm.
Will be interested in seeing the results in spots wheere you have disturbed the feng-shui

Well , fortunately I AM one of those who DOES know:mrgreen:

Pemberton wolves are deffinitely smaller on the average than up north ( I also have trapped the Racing with Toad local).

Our snow pack is usually deep here and 'fluffy'...the pics are decieving.The trap instructor suggests a 10" hole for wolves , i make them a little larger due to having some going under / side.

The snares in the pics are about as good as they will get.

I have nailed 2 wolves in the past where the snare wire went in his mouth and around the back of the head...nasty...but got em..kinda makes a guy wonder 'too high '...All the rest have been ' bulls eyes'..quick clean kills..
Have seen some wary Toad R. wolves stop dead with there head in the loop...back out...go around...very intelligent animals.

Here , watching the tracks , every wolf I have killed went right on through....only misses were from taking different routes.

NOTE : I am only doing this to keep our local herd healthy. Past few yrs I have dropped over $3000. in fuel and gear...not to mention hrs....to top it off , I dont even hunt the spots I'm trapping. What fur I kept I gave to the owner to ship to keep the line listed ' good standing'...so $ income so far for me is 0 from trapping....but..last spring our local goat counter said he counted the most kids EVER last spring ( nailed 7 wolves within 2 miles of our goat mtn. )
My motivation to post this on here is to let as many guy's know what it is like and REALLY HOPEFULLY get more guy's into it in their areas !!!

I read / hear MANY MANY people on here and everywhere else complaining about the wolf problem in their areas...hunting season over...out of sight /out of mind...next fall...more wolves...no one does anything...ect ect.....

Its EASY you guys..go get your trap license !!!.......$200 dollars gets yo enough hardware to make 250 snares!!...$40 gets a season license...$200 gets you 5 yr license!!!..maybe get your local clubs to donate $ to the cause ?...course fee?..ect?...
Up north , the outfitters make a HUGE effort to enhance the game...wich all of you also benefit when hunting up there.

All you dudes that come up and hunt the head of the Pemberton Valley owe me a beer!:biggrin:

[Pete]

[quote=proguide66;396790]Well , fortunately I AM one of those who DOES know:mrgreen:

Pemberton wolves are deffinitely smaller on the average than up north ( I also have trapped the Racing with Toad local).

Our snow pack is usually deep here and 'fluffy'...the pics are decieving.The trap instructor suggests a 10" hole for wolves , i make them a little larger due to having some going under / side.

The snares in the pics are about as good as they will get.
What are you using for a whammy on your snares?

[kishman]

Its EASY you guys..go get your trap license !!!.......$200 dollars gets yo enough hardware to make 250 snares!!...$40 gets a season license...$200 gets you 5 yr license!!!..maybe get your local clubs to donate $ to the cause ?...course fee?..ect?...
Up north , the outfitters make a HUGE effort to enhance the game...wich all of you also benefit when hunting up there.

All you dudes that come up and hunt the head of the Pemberton Valley owe me a beer!:biggrin:


I don't mean to hi-jack, but, do you know of someone in the LM who's teaching the course? I think you may have talked me into it....:-o

[proguide66]

I don't mean to hi-jack, but, do you know of someone in the LM who's teaching the course? I think you may have talked me into it....:-o


BC Trappers Association # 1866 222 0454...

I did the course just past 100 mile....it was short and apperantly the last class at the time to be done in 3 days..the # above should answer your questions!!

[proguide66]

[quote=proguide66;396790]Well , fortunately I AM one of those who DOES know:mrgreen:

Pemberton wolves are deffinitely smaller on the average than up north ( I also have trapped the Racing with Toad local).

Our snow pack is usually deep here and 'fluffy'...the pics are decieving.The trap instructor suggests a 10" hole for wolves , i make them a little larger due to having some going under / side.

The snares in the pics are about as good as they will get.
What are you using for a whammy on your snares?

No ' whammy '..the momentum / cam locks seem to do the trick on the wolves...the wolves seem to do the jobs themselves nicely...as well , less 'hardware' to pack around.
The methods I am using invlolve MANY hrs of snowshoeing....like to keep it as simple as possible for myself...

( assuming you are meaning the iron 'spring' set up with the snares)..these are called 'ram power snares'...cost $21.00 a copy...now were talkin $ , lol.....thye are great on beavers and light weight animals...cyotes..cats.

[proguide66]

Proguide, excellent thread! I've picked up a few tips already from reading your posts. Thanks!

I'd also like to see more people get involved with trapping. It's a great winter hobby and I had no idea how addicting it could be until I first tried it.

I've been doing my best to kick the wolf population in my area as well. Though I don't have quite the operation that you have setup, I expect to have done some damage by the end of winter.:razz: Now that the snowpack has developed a good crust, the wolves have really been moving and I'll be goin' after them hard in the coming weeks. It's tough to keep on top of when you're working full-time, and my marten sets kind of take priority since they provide the extra $$ for me to go chase wolves.


No kidding!!...sure is a wild surge of adrenalin when you see tracks going in to your sets!!..kinda like a new little 'christmas' each time you go check!...hard to stay away from having a 'peek'...

As well ( I'm sure you know)..trapping enhances your knowledge of wildlife much much more than just regular hunting game. You learn to observe soo much more whats going on in the forest...
Post your success pics here for all to see!!

[proguide66]

Hey proguide, how bout some technical specs too?
Cam lock sizes, gauge of snare wire, how much "gut" do you like between your cam and the anchor point etc.

Keep it comin !
...3/32 cam locks...same in aircraft cable....locks are $5.95 , cable anywhere from 13 to 10 $ pr 100 ft...12 ft pr snare.

The anchor point varies from what you are attaching it to...sometimes a branch or trunk can eat up most of your cable...I use steel tieing wire to attach my loop to the over head little willow branches...this little detail snugs the initial choke before the REAL struggle starts..sometimes the willow patch you are using might not have anything quite thick enough..so I will choke onto one tree..half hitch around 2 or 3 others...combined makes for a nasty catch..no escape....most trail sets are made so that the momentum of the wolf does the job REAL quick....you can tell the struggle by the twist in the cable....odd time , like catching them through the mouth/back of head...the snare wire will be twisted up like a rubber band...most times a few twists..done deal. Cats seem to 'give it up' real quick to a snare..sometimes not a twist at all....wolverines will absolutely anahilate EVERY single branch in the radius of the snare....AND the wire will be twisted up worse than any man could do.

Wolves and wolverines also routinely 'chew off' a snare...this can happen with too big a loop...wich will put the snare too far down against the front of the shoulder/base of neck...
Idealy , you want a slightly smaller hole = a nice tight choke high/close to skull....very quick dispatch......either way a guy looks at it...even our slowest trapping death is quicker than ,most kills performed by wolves themselvs !!..

[BlacktailStalker]

Right on!

How much time do you alot between checking your sets?
I guess if you're not concerned about the pelts, you could tend them less frequently...

[proguide66]

Right on!

How much time do you alot between checking your sets?
I guess if you're not concerned about the pelts, you could tend them less frequently...


Checking depends on how your doing it. If I find a big kill , I'll check it every few days...typically here , I have found the packs travel through my areas every two weeks...sometimes a loner passeds through , or a group of 3...its hard not to 'peek' . Depending on how your spots are situated , I have made it so I can make a wide loop around and see if any tracks are going in....sucks to lay a scent trail into your sets...of course the wolves will probably come RIGHT AFTER you check......

Note : Wolves memories are unreal. If a wolf finds a place of danger , that one wolf will avoid that spot for the rest of its life....as well , where they have found food , they will check the same....Where a wolf has left a track, that wolf will walk that exact trail again......just have to be lucky to be there same time.

I read some info from an Alaskan trapper that nailed over 100 wolves in one year. He said that he used to put a small piece of blue tape high above a snare so he wouldnt miss them. He nailed 3 wolves....after the 3rd one , the wolves avoided EVERY tree with blue tape !!..:shock:

[Dirty]

How are you marking the traps? With a GPS? In addition, do you ever come across any live ones?

[Deadshot]

How much time do you alot between checking your sets?

By law, I believe it's every 72 hours max.

If those wolves are running past a big stump, I was told to smeer dog $hit all over it & set a good leg hold right beside it. Something about the alpha having to re-scent it. If you get the alpha, make sure there are snares set around to get the stragglers.

[proguide66]

How are you marking the traps? With a GPS? In addition, do you ever come across any live ones?


Here we have very little flat ground....hard to NOT find my spots . I have 'spots' for my 'snare clusters'....I mark down how many snares at each spot.
I have had 2 live ones...both were young and the loop was too close to the base of neck , looked like they ' healed' to it..weird...no bleeding ,no harm, just sitting there trying to avoid eye contact with me.I grater oporater had gone through the same morning , said 7 wolves were just standing on the road looking at him...only 20 yrds from my sets...the wolves did look very fresh , not much sign of being there very long.

[proguide66]

How much time do you alot between checking your sets?

By law, I believe it's every 72 hours max.

If those wolves are running past a big stump, I was told to smeer dog $hit all over it & set a good leg hold right beside it. Something about the alpha having to re-scent it. If you get the alpha, make sure there are snares set around to get the stragglers.True , as well you can take a male dog up a route..he will piss on EVERY wolf urine scent...a wolf CAN NOT go by with out scenting over again....idealy you should have 2 leg holds on that...but then you need to go check them right away...real time consuming....I have a spot ready to go where a major pack dens up..steep switch backs...10 yr old trees ...I'll do this early spring once they start hanging out there full time.
There is a short time limit on checking live traps.
snares can be left a long time legally. Example : at this moment in Toad River , a few outfitters have teamed up ( as well the Northern Guides association) to use helicopters to fly in where they cant sled in..found wolf kills , trails..dropped in , set snares...left them for over a month before checking.

[cainer]

Ever catch anything other than wolves by accident?

[proguide66]

Ever catch anything other than wolves by accident?


Here's one kinda hard to believe......once I dumped a dead cow over a steep bank..high on a mountain side...would sled up , peek over...there was lots of ravens /eagles on it..I spooked them ..one eagle just went 'bouncing' down the slope ( must have been too full)..and right into a snare. I went down there with out my snow shoes...( wanted to save the damned thing)..going in to my hips in snow...tried to grab him , his claws went through my gloves like butter , thankfully missed my fingers. I took my jacket off and threw it on him like a towel..put a knee on him ,took he wire off..then I went to 'shake him out' of my jacket like shaking sand out of a towel..his claws are firm through my jacket..momentum takes the whole issue out of my hands , he flies away with my jacket/keys/wallet...DOWNHILL....for maybe another 200m yrds...off I go after him...he flies up again..WITH my jacket...( i'm wishing for a shotgun by now , lol)..drops my jacket from 100 ft...lands another 300 yrds down hill....

[cainer]

:lol:-Man-you're lucky he didn't drop it in the middle of nowhere!

[bayou]

[quote=proguide66;396899]True , as well you can take a male dog up a route..he will piss on EVERY wolf urine scent...a wolf CAN NOT go by with out scenting over again....idealy you should have 2 leg holds on that...but then you need to go check them right away...real time consuming....I have a spot ready to go where a major pack dens up..steep switch backs...10 yr old trees ...I'll do this early spring once they start hanging out there full time.
There is a short time limit on checking live traps.
snares can be left a long time legally. Example : at this moment in Toad River , a few outfitters have teamed up ( as well the Northern Guides association) to use helicopters to fly in where they cant sled in..found wolf kills , trails..dropped in , set snares...left them for over a month before checking.
Really thats weird they musta got some special exemption from what the regs say.

[proguide66]

[quote=proguide66;396899]True , as well you can take a male dog up a route..he will piss on EVERY wolf urine scent...a wolf CAN NOT go by with out scenting over again....idealy you should have 2 leg holds on that...but then you need to go check them right away...real time consuming....I have a spot ready to go where a major pack dens up..steep switch backs...10 yr old trees ...I'll do this early spring once they start hanging out there full time.
There is a short time limit on checking live traps.
snares can be left a long time legally. Example : at this moment in Toad River , a few outfitters have teamed up ( as well the Northern Guides association) to use helicopters to fly in where they cant sled in..found wolf kills , trails..dropped in , set snares...left them for over a month before checking.
Really thats weird they musta got some special exemption from what the regs say.


oops...meant they started a month ago

[Pete]

[quote=Pete;396837]

No ' whammy '..the momentum / cam locks seem to do the trick on the wolves...the wolves seem to do the jobs themselves nicely...as well , less 'hardware' to pack around.
The methods I am using invlolve MANY hrs of snowshoeing....like to keep it as simple as possible for myself...

( assuming you are meaning the iron 'spring' set up with the snares)..these are called 'ram power snares'...cost $21.00 a copy...now were talkin $ , lol.....thye are great on beavers and light weight animals...cyotes..cats.

Ram power snares come in 4 different sizes the largest of which is the Wolfmaster which costs $27.90 per snare (Halford 2009) with a snare replacement cost of $2.60 per snare. A wammy is a snare support system, it is not a power snare. The wammy serves 2 purposes, one is to support the snare in an optimum position as well as to hold the snare cable in place while the wolf moves through the set thus making sure that the snare cable loop settles into the best possible killing position.

[proguide66]

[quote=proguide66;396845]

Ram power snares come in 4 different sizes the largest of which is the Wolfmaster which costs $27.90 per snare (Halford 2009) with a snare replacement cost of $2.60 per snare. A wammy is a snare support system, it is not a power snare. The wammy serves 2 purposes, one is to support the snare in an optimum position as well as to hold the snare cable in place while the wolf moves through the set thus making sure that the snare cable loop settles into the best possible killing position.
...Our trap instructor gave us some sample snares with that on...way easier to take the snares off to....I have just duplicated the methods shown to me by the 'old schoolers' up north...I do however use steel tie wire right at the cam lock / branch...keeps the loop solid in place / size...workin for me so far!
Anyone have good positive advice to better methods , please post away!

[Pete]

[quote=Pete;397004]
...Our trap instructor gave us some sample snares with that on...way easier to take the snares off to....I have just duplicated the methods shown to me by the 'old schoolers' up north...I do however use steel tie wire right at the cam lock / branch...keeps the loop solid in place / size...workin for me so far!
Anyone have good positive advice to better methods , please post away!

Given the oppertunity any one looking to hone their wolf trapping skills should take in one of Gordy Klassens wolf trapping /snaring classes. The best place would be at the Dave Unger Trappers College in Debolt Alberta. More information can be gotten through the Alberta Trappers Assoc. ask for Jim Mitchell

[BEAVERBOB]

I WAS LOOKING AT THE PICTUES AND WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE EYE BOLT THREADED INTO THE CEDAR TREE. FOR ONE THING THE TREE BARK ON A CEDAR IS VERY THICK,UNLESS THE BOLT IS 14"' LONG THAT WILL NOT HOLD A WOLF OR THE COUGAR YOU ARE GOING TO CATCH.THE WOLF MAY BE SMALLER BUT YOUR CATS ARE NOT.I KNOW WE ARE NOT TARGETING CATS BUT IF YOU PLAY AROUND KILL SITES YOU WILL CATCH ONE .THE HEIGHT OF YOUR SNARE IS WHY I THINK THIS IS LIKLEY TO GO DOWN. IF SOMEBODY FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC SEES THIS CAT OR DOG RUNNING AROUND WITH THIS JUNK AROUND ITS HEAD AND THE CRITTER HAS WATER HEAD ,WATCH OUT-THE SHIT STORM WILL HAVE LANDED IN YOUR LAP.THIS WILL BE A BLACKEYE FOR ALL TRAPPERS!!!!!!!!. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF 200 SNARES WHEN IT SNOWS.I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM.THIS WOULD NOT BE GOOD PRATICE TO ONLY CHECK THE ONES THAT ARE SET OR THE ONES YOU CAN SEE AT THE TIME.IF IT SNOWS AND YOUR CRITTER IS LYING IN THE SNOW,WHAT SYSTEM CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS SOME THING DEAD UNDER THE SNOW
THANKS
BEAVERBOB:twisted:

[proguide66]

I WAS LOOKING AT THE PICTUES AND WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE EYE BOLT THREADED INTO THE CEDAR TREE. FOR ONE THING THE TREE BARK ON A CEDAR IS VERY THICK,UNLESS THE BOLT IS 14"' LONG THAT WILL NOT HOLD A WOLF OR THE COUGAR YOU ARE GOING TO CATCH.THE WOLF MAY BE SMALLER BUT YOUR CATS ARE NOT.I KNOW WE ARE NOT TARGETING CATS BUT IF YOU PLAY AROUND KILL SITES YOU WILL CATCH ONE .THE HEIGHT OF YOUR SNARE IS WHY I THINK THIS IS LIKLEY TO GO DOWN. IF SOMEBODY FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC SEES THIS CAT OR DOG RUNNING AROUND WITH THIS JUNK AROUND ITS HEAD AND THE CRITTER HAS WATER HEAD ,WATCH OUT-THE SHIT STORM WILL HAVE LANDED IN YOUR LAP.THIS WILL BE A BLACKEYE FOR ALL TRAPPERS!!!!!!!!. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF 200 SNARES WHEN IT SNOWS.I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM.THIS WOULD NOT BE GOOD PRATICE TO ONLY CHECK THE ONES THAT ARE SET OR THE ONES YOU CAN SEE AT THE TIME.IF IT SNOWS AND YOUR CRITTER IS LYING IN THE SNOW,WHAT SYSTEM CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS SOME THING DEAD UNDER THE SNOW
THANKS
BEAVERBOB:twisted:


Well Beav , I had 250 out last year , 250 came home..easy...some 'spots I have 25 to 40 snares...I am very aware of where my snares are..some in lines..some in circles...when it snow's I dig them out , re-set...wether its 10 snares or 300...I still know where they all are..I also live close enough to check on a regular basis...when it snows , i'm on it first thing in the am....you might want to check the thickness of cedar bark compared to fir bark...and as far as catching cougers...first its illegal...2nd , Ive never caught a couger....3rd...when you have time , nail a snare to a cedar tree with 3 -3" staples..put it around your neck...we'll see if you can get them off the tree:biggrin:......welcome to HBC !....( caps lock?)..hehe

ps...as far as the " height " goes...I'll try to take a photo with a measureing tape next time...PHOTO'S ARE DECIEVING !

[Gateholio]

THis is a great thread, hopefully it inspires others to take up trapping wolves- Or at least going out and trying to hunt them! I almost want to buy a sled and tag along!:smile:

I also wonder how anyone can tell the height of the snares from photos? Snow often gives flat light and angles can completely change the perspective of things.

Constructive feedback should be encouraged, but let's not get the panties in a bunch without good reason;)

[GoatGuy]

THis is a great thread, hopefully it inspires others to take up trapping wolves- Or at least going out and trying to hunt them! I almost want to buy a sled and tag along!:smile:

I also wonder how anyone can tell the height of the snares from photos? Snow often gives flat light and angles can completely change the perspective of things.

Constructive feedback should be encouraged, but let's not get the panties in a bunch without good reason;)

Some people have far better "I sight" than others.

[Mik]

Fantastic thread, great pics. Thanks for educating me, I too am looking fwd to seing "snared game". There's been a couple of nasty comments, and you have handled them very well-sounds like you know exactly what you are doing.

[sawmill]

I`ve logged for years and never saw a cedar with 14 inch thick bark.Or evan 3 inch thick bark.
Looking forward to your sucsess and the photo`s!

[budismyhorse]

BeaverBob's last activity was an hour after ProGuides awesome response......looks like you shut him up!

I guess he is regretting the time it took for him to come up with his handle, sign on, cement that capslock in the "FULL THRUST" position and launch his stinging attack.

keep it up proguide, its obvious to me you have done your homework and know your stuff, this thread is one of the best I've seen.

.....14 inch thick cedar bark BWAAAHHAAAHAHAA!

[DDD]

Great thread PG66. A refreshing break from the all too common finger pointing and ethics preaching. Looking forward to more pics and continued updates.

D

[mark]

That beaver guy lost me at his thick cedar bark comment, and eye bolts needed to be 14", proves right there how little knowledge he has!

[proguide66]

thanks for the positive feed back boys !.....try not to be too hard on The Beaver !...lol.......after reading the post a 2nd time , he didnt really make much sense.....am still trying to find the part where the eye bolts were threaded...and I as well find myself REAL curious about the 'Beav's expereince with struggling cougers:shock:

Note : I am obviously fighting this wolf battle alone....own money/time..for fellow hunters to reap the benefits......meanwhile , there are 'attackers' on here sitting on their ass's doing SHIT.....maybe they should be considering a little 'rocket polishing' for each wolf kill ,then at least they would have done 'SOMETHING' worthwhile with their time....:biggrin:

I'm out the door.......oh , I ordered hardware for another 200 snares yesterday...DOH !:eek:

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Don't beavers make good wolf bait??:smile:

SSS

[Dannybuoy]

Another "thumbs-up" response proguide ... keep up the good work , like Gatehouse said , it makes me wish I had a sled ....

[thatskindafunny]

This is great. Thatskindafunny about the eagle. Had to wipe the tears from my eyes. You were very lucky to not get an oweeee...

[hunter1947]

I WAS LOOKING AT THE PICTUES AND WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE EYE BOLT THREADED INTO THE CEDAR TREE. FOR ONE THING THE TREE BARK ON A CEDAR IS VERY THICK,UNLESS THE BOLT IS 14"' LONG THAT WILL NOT HOLD A WOLF OR THE COUGAR YOU ARE GOING TO CATCH.THE WOLF MAY BE SMALLER BUT YOUR CATS ARE NOT.I KNOW WE ARE NOT TARGETING CATS BUT IF YOU PLAY AROUND KILL SITES YOU WILL CATCH ONE .THE HEIGHT OF YOUR SNARE IS WHY I THINK THIS IS LIKLEY TO GO DOWN. IF SOMEBODY FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC SEES THIS CAT OR DOG RUNNING AROUND WITH THIS JUNK AROUND ITS HEAD AND THE CRITTER HAS WATER HEAD ,WATCH OUT-THE SHIT STORM WILL HAVE LANDED IN YOUR LAP.THIS WILL BE A BLACKEYE FOR ALL TRAPPERS!!!!!!!!. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF 200 SNARES WHEN IT SNOWS.I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM.THIS WOULD NOT BE GOOD PRATICE TO ONLY CHECK THE ONES THAT ARE SET OR THE ONES YOU CAN SEE AT THE TIME.IF IT SNOWS AND YOUR CRITTER IS LYING IN THE SNOW,WHAT SYSTEM CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS SOME THING DEAD UNDER THE SNOW
THANKS
BEAVERBOB:twisted:

Beaver Bob ,why don't you go and set up some snares ?????? :rolleyes: ,are you a trapper ???? O ya if you do set some snares make sure the tree has very little bark on it http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif.

[Tikka7mm]

Looking forward to the next update! I can't believe I missed this thread??? Like many have said already, this is one of the most interesting threads I've seen on this site in a while. Good on ya PG66!

[Will]

Some Great stuff right here !
Thanks ! :cool:

[30-378-magnum]

I WAS LOOKING AT THE PICTUES AND WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE EYE BOLT THREADED INTO THE CEDAR TREE. FOR ONE THING THE TREE BARK ON A CEDAR IS VERY THICK,UNLESS THE BOLT IS 14"' LONG THAT WILL NOT HOLD A WOLF OR THE COUGAR YOU ARE GOING TO CATCH.THE WOLF MAY BE SMALLER BUT YOUR CATS ARE NOT.I KNOW WE ARE NOT TARGETING CATS BUT IF YOU PLAY AROUND KILL SITES YOU WILL CATCH ONE .THE HEIGHT OF YOUR SNARE IS WHY I THINK THIS IS LIKLEY TO GO DOWN. IF SOMEBODY FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC SEES THIS CAT OR DOG RUNNING AROUND WITH THIS JUNK AROUND ITS HEAD AND THE CRITTER HAS WATER HEAD ,WATCH OUT-THE SHIT STORM WILL HAVE LANDED IN YOUR LAP.THIS WILL BE A BLACKEYE FOR ALL TRAPPERS!!!!!!!!. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF 200 SNARES WHEN IT SNOWS.I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM.THIS WOULD NOT BE GOOD PRATICE TO ONLY CHECK THE ONES THAT ARE SET OR THE ONES YOU CAN SEE AT THE TIME.IF IT SNOWS AND YOUR CRITTER IS LYING IN THE SNOW,WHAT SYSTEM CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS SOME THING DEAD UNDER THE SNOW
THANKS
BEAVERBOB:twisted:

so if cedar bark is 14 inches thick and a cedar tree has a diameter of 6 inches how thick do you have to be to post such bull crap

[proguide66]

..OK..today was one of the best days yet......found some awesome trails , found a kill...but sadly had to quit early due to going through some ice..makes for some good adrenalin being alone!

I'm going to post some more pictures..I will post 1 picture first..I ask all who are intersted and who have been following this to guess how high the snare is !...I ESPECIALLY..ask the previous characters who posted " concerns of my snares too low" to post how high this snare is.....we all know who posted 'concerns ' nows your time to shine!...after we get a good # of guess's I'll post all the other pics from today....one wich will clearly show the 'height ' wich my wolf snares are set....now its obvious there is a small handfull of guy's reading this and are EAGERLY waiting for me to 'fail' or post something negative to point out.......
Again , this thread is to share loads of FREE / POSITIVE knowledge...and hopefully for me to gain as much back....now , guess away.....http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail001.jpg

[BlacktailStalker]

Is that picture sideways?
24" to center, wild guess.
Either way who cares, hope if nabs a wolf!

[Will]

....now , guess away.....
15"s to the bottom of the loop ?:confused:

I have no idea really.. but I do like the education I'm getting:smile:

[thunderheart]

15"s to the bottom of the loop ?:confused:

I have no idea really.. but I do like the education I'm getting:smile:


X2.. as to a guess, hard to tell from the picture .. 16 @ center

[proguide66]

Picture is taken same as the rest..head on..bottom is bottom..top is top..you can see large wolf tracks going through , just like the other ones....keep guessing.....if the guy's who made the call earlier on in the thread and dont guess now...TOOLS !..lol...easy to judge for some...wayyy to scary to be pointed out as WRONG though isnt it?...lolol....
Everybody keep guessing though...its all positive knowledge!!:smile:

[hunter1947]

I am saying that to the bottom of your snare loop it will be 18 inches.

[BigBanger]

I say the bottom is 14 inches off the snow . I dont know shit its just a guess .

[KodiakHntr]

I'll guess 22" to the bottom of the loop FROM the bottom off the wolf track.

[mark]

Im gonna say abour 16 to bottom but its very hard to tell from pic, about a 15-16" loop! My question is why the stick below the snare??? Was it there before and the wolves were jumping between the sticks??? Seems like it would be easier to walk around the sticks!

[hunter1947]

Im gonna say abour 16 to bottom but its very hard to tell from pic, about a 15-16" loop! My question is why the stick below the snare??? Was it there before and the wolves were jumping between the sticks??? Seems like it would be easier to walk around the sticks!

Marc I would think that the branch under the loop is there so the wolf has to go through the loop as it is traveling ,its easer for the animal to step over the branch then go around it ,this branch is called a chin lifter...

[hunter1947]

I looked at my Trapper education manual to see how hi the loop should be off the ground and the with of the circle should be ,it don't show it ????.

For a Fox using a snare It does show the height for off the ground and the with of the circle ,it is an 8 inch loop and 8 inches from the bottom of the snare.

[hunter1947]

P66 how much did your crimper coast you for crimping up your couplings with the 3/32 snare wire ????.

[proguide66]

P66 how much did your crimper coast you for crimping up your couplings with the 3/32 snare wire ????.

I actually just used my splitting maul as an anvil , beat em with a hammer.....

[BlacktailStalker]

Wayne I have a crimper ($50) you can use, looks like the same crimps I use for seismic wire at work.

[proguide66]

Anyway...on with more good knowledge...HOPE some of you are getting ready to help clean up some doggies.

I didnt bring a tape measure today.......felt some of the 'negative dudes' were probably on the dumb ass end of a tape measure most their lives and wouldnt know what they were lookin at anyway:razz:

So....I took a photo with me standing beside it....I am 6'1"...33" leg.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail002.jpg

[boxhitch]

Princess Auto has a good hand crimper for about $50. Crimps and wire too, if that is the type of wire you choose.

[proguide66]

So..on with the days discoveries....found an UNREAL travel route..wolves chasing moose around but not killing any...probably due to frozen crust..no deep powder....took a photo of a 'piss post' that they just keep goin to and marking..maybe 8 to 12 dogs I figure...The piss spot would be great for a leg hold with an anchor...but I'm not into the leg holds this early.
The pack followed a route that went around the end of a stump...PERRRR-FECT !...nothing to snare to though....so..cut a 10 ft green pole...choked two snares to the middle...hung over their trail...I also took a shoulder shot-up front deer shoulder and hung it with a snare on the back side of a tree maybe 30 yrds away from that...low enough for them to have a good ol tug o war , fight over it..focus on it...walk on through the snare..

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail005.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail006.jpg

[proguide66]

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail009.jpg
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail007.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail008.jpg


pics shown are from two ends of the wolf trail...note the pole in the back ground of the bait photo....also note the traffic narrowed to the end of the stump...this ones gonna score!

[killman]

Where do you get all your bait?

[proguide66]

Looks to be some decent sized wolves in this pack...would explain the moose chasing. ( I have NEVER found a moose kill by wolves in our area yet )

Also found a deer carcass wich was frozen in a bog...couple wolves , bobcats , cyote's have been trying to excavate it...really frozen..obviously not a kill from a predator..wouldtn have been left in the slough....I followed the wolf tracks maybe 150 yrds away..did my 'deal'..too close to kills will kill other species and especially raptors..not good.
One good thing though is bobcats use the EXACT trail ' in' to feed , and the EXACT trail out...easy to not catch them on a kill...grizzlies do the same...only they step in the EXACT foot print each time...kitties just use the same route.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail003.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail010-1.jpg

[Gateholio]

Where do you get all your bait?

Trappers are allowed to keep road kill, I think they just fill out a form or something. Also, farmers lose some animals in the winter, that would be a good source if you are around a farming area.

[hunter1947]

I actually just used my splitting maul as an anvil , beat em with a hammer.....


Thanks P66 when I do get the go ahead I will use the 5 pounder to close up the couplings ,good advice.

[proguide66]

Where do you get all your bait?

Also have a contact at our local highway dept....drops off rd kill deer..I also freeze my shoulder shot unedibles....I also save chunks of hide...very usefull....usually DONT have enough bait..I dont have time or bait to start a bait station in the fall and maintain it....

So..this should be about it for a while.....I made a few bobcat sets , will give them to the owner of the line to ship , as well offer some success pics while we wait for some REAL success8-)

I snared some unbelievable AWESOME routes today....I can say with confidence we WILL have wolves....I would be an idiot to say ' when'..hopefully soon....can go days..maybe a month..maybe a week?...ect ect....it'll happen.

[martyonthewater]

THANKS PG66, truly enjoying this thread. looking fwd to kill pics.

[bsa30-06]

Excellent thread, cant wait to see some snared wolves.Thanks for posting and updating us.

[BlacktailStalker]

Proguide just a question to compare but is it just bobs that you find use the same trail (talking cats here) or are you saying cougars too?
Myself, I've seen numerous in/out trails on a cougar kill...

[XMD70]

Many years back, early 1980's, I had just bought a trapline and went to a wolf trapping weekend workshop. The man who taught it was Dan Leigh, a trapper out of the Williams Lake area. He had a trademark pickup truck he'd refitted to accommodate logging truck tires. At the time he was reputed to be one of the most successful wolf trappers in the province, maybe in the country. I believe it. He had all kinds of tips and tricks. To begin with, he cautioned us never to leave our souls at the set. "Don't picture in your mind the wolf entering the snare or stepping in the trap" he said. He claimed that the wolf could picture what was in your mind as you walked down the trail. His strategy was to catch the Alpha male first, and then to pick up the rest of the pack at his leisure, something he was able to do quite consistently. Since I got out of the trapping business a decade ago, I don't know what ever happened to Dan. If he's still around and anyone knows how to contact him he would be an invaluable resource for this thread.

[proguide66]

Proguide just a question to compare but is it just bobs that you find use the same trail (talking cats here) or are you saying cougars too?
Myself, I've seen numerous in/out trails on a cougar kill...

I have only seen the bobcats doing this. I have actually never had any couger tracks near my activities yet. I stay well away from where our deer herd is wintering...I'm sure most our big cats are hanging tight to the deer...the wintering hole is ear shot from my place....you can hear the wolves goin nutso in there as well non-stop...frustrating...if I went in there and went after them , I would knock off deer like crazy...went for a sled 'tour' in there the other day and saw lots of big cat sign.

[proguide66]

Thanks P66 when I do get the go ahead I will use the 5 pounder to close up the couplings ,good advice.


Hey '47...and anyone else getting ready to try this.....one time couple years ago , I had a dead beef calf given to me...I drug it into a big hardwood patch...wired it to a tree , went about setting a large ring of snares.I also still had some deer legs and hide in the back yrd from a buck I had shot...I took the legs in to the bait pile and just left them on the ground ( legs with hoof on)..well...went back a week later...the two deer legs were both in two snares ,REAL tight , no wolves...DAMN...you could tell the wolves had 'tug o wars' with them as well.....so , obvious the wolves grabbed a deer leg in their mouths , went through a snare and 'T-boned' it with the legs....causing missed wolves.
Anyway.....just a small note to think of if you have the same bait situation....try not to leave 'single' long bones like that near your snares!!

[Gus]

Hey '47...and anyone else getting ready to try this.....one time couple years ago , I had a dead beef calf given to me...I drug it into a big hardwood patch...wired it to a tree , went about setting a large ring of snares.I also still had some deer legs and hide in the back yrd from a buck I had shot...I took the legs in to the bait pile and just left them on the ground ( legs with hoof on)..well...went back a week later...the two deer legs were both in two snares ,REAL tight , no wolves...DAMN...you could tell the wolves had 'tug o wars' with them as well.....so , obvious the wolves grabbed a deer leg in their mouths , went through a snare and 'T-boned' it with the legs....causing missed wolves.
Anyway.....just a small note to think of if you have the same bait situation....try not to leave 'single' long bones like that near your snares!!

Good point, never thought of that but I know it happens often with beavers and conibears

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Good point, never thought of that but I know it happens often with beavers and conibears

You bait beavers with deer legs???:???:

SSS

[Gus]

You bait beavers with deer legs???:???:

SSS


:D No, they run sticks into the trap. Same idea, I should have clarified.

[Pete]

Do you use a BAD on your snares?

[proguide66]

Do you use a BAD on your snares?

I dont yet..but I just might after you tell us what it is:smile:....lots of the trapping course info came ' in' but as well went through and kept goin.. this old dog seems to loose more 'new info' than retain these days:redface:....

[proguide66]

Quick note for all on permits / permission to trap.

Recieved a freindly 'pm' from a bcwf member.He said this thread came up at a bcwf meeting , some members showed concern I " may be infringing on active trap lines"...just want to clarify its not the case...
I have written permission from 3 different trap line owners.This year I am only using 2 of them. Last yr i also inquired about a line wich turned out to be not in use since the early 1980's. The local bio was a BIG help in getting the permit processed...cost $50. soon after had the permit , off I went.
These govt permits for dormant lines dont automatically renew each yr with your license...you have to do the same sequence each season....when renewing your trapping license , the trap lines with permission from owners DOES come through each yr and is listed on your license.
I know an earlier 'post' by me " hunters hunting the head of the Pemberton Meadows owe me a beer" may have caused question( might have sounded like I was trapping up there). I am actually trapping a lot farther south from there...but the wolves I am after run up and down the length of the valley as well the deer herd migrates the same....I am kinda ' in the middle' .
Hope this adds some knowledge and clears up any questions...squashes any un needed rumors;-)

[BlacktailStalker]

"showed concern "

is all it is. If you're not breaking any laws I wouldnt waste your effort/time trying to make sure anybody is pleased/satisfied...
At the end of the day if a guy is doing right and he knows it, thats all that matters.

I've already emailed the BC trappers associating to inquire when/where the next course is closest to me, this is very cool.
To legally transport coons for my hounds it's necessary...
Taking out a few dog munchers is a bonus :cool:

[Pete]

I dont yet..but I just might after you tell us what it is:smile:....lots of the trapping course info came ' in' but as well went through and kept goin.. this old dog seems to loose more 'new info' than retain these days:redface:....

BAD stands for "Break Away Device". It attaches to your cam lock and is designed to open and release your snare loop if you catch a Deer, Moose or Elk. It is something that you should consider if are in an area with lots of ungulates. How long ago did you take your course?

[hunter1947]

P66 how big of a loop are your snares for wolves 60 or 72 inch ???.

Also do you have any of your snares set up with breakaway sestem and diverter ????.

[Look74]

It looks like you are haveing fun, well there is nothing better then setting and in a day or two checking and find some game. The wolf will show you when things are not done well. I have some picturs of snare sets I will send you but by E-mail if thats ok with you. J L

[proguide66]

BAD stands for "Break Away Device". It attaches to your cam lock and is designed to open and release your snare loop if you catch a Deer, Moose or Elk. It is something that you should consider if are in an area with lots of ungulates. How long ago did you take your course?


I took the course 3 yrs ago...this is my third year trapping wolves.first yr had one stolen from the snare ( probably rec sledders , could read the snow tale)..and had two deer legs in 2 snares...2nd year nailed 7...hopefully this year I get even more...I am on my own here and have gone through LOTS of trial /error..blood sweat teers..and $...have phoned the trap instructor few times for related info and as well have a good freind who lives in Toad River and routinely nails 12 to 18 wolves a year , so I am on the phone with him lots....I was fortunate to go with him a few times.....what a learning process though....am hoping to encourage other guy's to do this...I lived on the island through the 'predator peak' and watched the deer disappear..depressing..kinda like what Powell River is going through now.

I dont trap near ungulate hangouts....I'm catching these guys travelling to and from our deer wintering area south river..then they head back up north river for moose maybe?...havent followed them up there due to not having permission to trap up there...I also stay on the 'cold side' of the valley...see maybe 2 moose a winter on my side...I have only caught cyot's , bobcat and wolves...and 1 lucky eagle!!.....so....as said before...anyone have more knowledge to add here , please do it!....all helps...luckily I'm self employed and have a few months off to persue these buggers...

[proguide66]

P66 how big of a loop are your snares for wolves 60 or 72 inch ???.

Also do you have any of your snares set up with breakaway sestem and diverter ????.

I have 12 ft long snares...loop I think is usually around 10 to 12" across..I hear if you make it too large you will commonly catch them around the waist...that would be a nasty death...I was surprised at the small size the trap instructor showed us for his wolf snares...but he's gettin them!.

I dont have a break away system....I really follow the pack a long way's before placing snares....being motivated by ungulate #'s makes me terrified of killing any.....its working for me.

[elkdom]

you posted earlier you took 7 wolves, I believe you said last season, just curious what colour variations were predominant? sizes, weights? any pics??

good luck this season:wink:

[hunter1947]

I took the course 3 yrs ago...this is my third year trapping wolves.first yr had one stolen from the snare ( probably rec sledders , could read the snow tale)..and had two deer legs in 2 snares...2nd year nailed 7...hopefully this year I get even more...I am on my own here and have gone through LOTS of trial /error..blood sweat teers..and $...have phoned the trap instructor few times for related info and as well have a good freind who lives in Toad River and routinely nails 12 to 18 wolves a year , so I am on the phone with him lots....I was fortunate to go with him a few times.....what a learning process though....am hoping to encourage other guy's to do this...I lived on the island through the 'predator peak' and watched the deer disappear..depressing..kinda like what Powell River is going through now.

I dont trap near ungulate hangouts....I'm catching these guys travelling to and from our deer wintering area south river..then they head back up north river for moose maybe?...havent followed them up there due to not having permission to trap up there...I also stay on the 'cold side' of the valley...see maybe 2 moose a winter on my side...I have only caught cyot's , bobcat and wolves...and 1 lucky eagle!!.....so....as said before...anyone have more knowledge to add here , please do it!....all helps...luckily I'm self employed and have a few months off to persue these buggers...


Good on you P66 keep up the good work ,like I said I and others will be looking forwards to seeing your first wolf snared this year ,my friend Phil Bradsaw a trapper has been doing some damage on the wolves on his trap line in the Cranbrook area http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif.

[30-378-magnum]

been following thresd from beginning .very interesting keep at it and try not to let whiners get to ya

[proguide66]

you posted earlier you took 7 wolves, I believe you said last season, just curious what colour variations were predominant? sizes, weights? any pics??

good luck this season:wink:

We have black ones , typical greys...most of them are kinda 'grungy ' lookin here...kinda like a HUGE dirty cyote with dirty fur in a way...best looking one was last yr...large male , put a live pic of him on here from my trail cam...I gave a couple to the line owner who is a well known ( in a very good way) taxidermist...the large grey had a lot of black down his back like a shepard...but deffinitely pure wolf!...everage size would maybe be 70 lbs?...big one maybe 100 ?...some fella's brought one over yesterday...black , grey down sides of his face..they weighed him at 115lbs...I have shot a LOT of wolves up north...these down here dont really compare , wonder why?? never even thought of taking a pic of them..I will for sure to post here though..have to encourage hunters.

[hunter1947]

P66 what is the distance to the bottom of the snare line from the snow or the ground ,I don't think you have let us know to this date.

[proguide66]

One more thing , I have the permit applications as well the credit card authorization form on my email ...pm me and I will forward it to anyone who needs it. I as well have all the copies of the 'Permit - Specific Additional Information Requirements'...can fax from here to anyone who needs it.
The code for the application to quote " Trapper to trap on a vacant or unused trapline " is 2(1) ....this all you need from the permit information documents if you dont have a fax.

[elkdom]

Most of the ones I get around here are typical "grey" timber wolf, odd black or all white one also,

normal weights are about 100 to about 120 lbs, funny they all weigh in

like ,,, 100 lbs + 180grns,,,, or 110 lbs +180grns,,,or 117 lbs +180grns,,,

dammedest thing?, they all have that 180gns in common! 8)

[proguide66]

P66 what is the distance to the bottom of the snare line from the snow or the ground ,I don't think you have let us know to this date.
You can see me standing in the photo beside the snare...I have never actually taken a tape measure out to them.Also , I am ALWAYS snaring where they travel....usually after trailing them for a bit , I find where they have ducked through bush / branches...then there's no guessing...just snare to the top branch they go under...as well , I did that in the photo.Usually bottom loop is level with my knee...but again , who knows what the wolf is doin...runnin? walking?...different hieghts , same animals...MORE SNARES !:twisted:lolol

[6 K]

Wow!
Great thread, thanks for the info. Best of luck, I really want to see the fruits of your labour.
Funny thing is I clicked on this tread cause I am going after them myself tomorrow, sat. at the latest. Only I plan to try and call some into rifle distance. I have two spots in mind, seen wolves in one and lots of sighn and heard them in the other. Probably turn into a winter walk but if you don't try........:wink:
Keep up the good work.

[hunter1947]

Steve how many hours a day do you put in on the average when out on the trap line ???.

[hunter1947]

Steve it is nice to see that you are making the small loop on your snares ,it will help big time keeping out unwanted prey.

[proguide66]

Steve how many hours a day do you put in on the average when out on the trap line ???.

Well , if Gatehouse , Hitch or Gilmore DONT come over here and force beers into me , I will usually hit the woods anywhere from 4 to 7 hrs...I am 5 km's from one access and 29 to the other..( sled after that)..I only have to sled about 1 minute to hit the action. There was a pair of wolves in a backyard yesterday only 3 farms up from me...and Gilmore had a wolf come into his barn to kill a calf a couple yrs ago wich is shooting distance from me and 4 minutes from Pemberton village!!!....9 wolves went through the Whistler Village cross country ski trails last winter as well....they are picking up speed...I'm applying for a permit on two other lines closer to Whistler as well......good luck!

[hunter1947]

This link is interesting.

http://www.alaskatrappers.org/pdf/30740_breakaway_snare_altered2.pdf

[proguide66]

This link is interesting.

http://www.alaskatrappers.org/pdf/30740_breakaway_snare_altered2.pdf


Super inclusion!!....funny , we never went through that on our trap course!

[Upearly]

FWIW. An old trapper friend told me that he would suspend a moose head from the centre of a rope strung between two trees. He would then bury in the snow several leg hold traps in a large circle around it. These traps had been dipped in parafin wax and placed in position with wax paper covering them and sprinkled with snow on top of them. He said that when the animals came to the site they would sniff out the traps and walk around them. However, once they started to pull on the bait they would go in ever widening circles and forget about the traps and eventually step in one. He took a lot of wolves and especially wolverines in this fashion.

[boxhitch]

I have some picturs of snare sets I will send you but by E-mail if thats ok with you. J LHope your not snubbing the rest of us onlookers ? we are all in this to learn, any input helps.
Its so important to get things right the first time, Wolves have uncanny senses and memories.

[thunderheart]

yup great thread ... so if you own a registered trapline does it allow for cabins ... i know they used to??

[SteadyGirl]

If you have a registered trap line, yes you are allowed cabins. A friend of mine will have his completed up the wildhorse this summer.

[proguide66]

Well...here's some lame pics...but , I guess its part of the process....next pics will be strung up wolves.

This is $400.00 of gear to make 200 snares....including bus shipping from PG
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail001-1.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail003-1.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail003-1.jpg

[proguide66]

This is a ' pine needle tea' pre boiling up for the snares....once the snares go in , wont be touched by human flesh again.

I finnish them off outside so I have no indoor contaniments when I take them out to hang.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail002-1.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail004-2.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/08blacktail005-1.jpg


This bring my gear to over 400 snares....if I can , i'll get em all out...I also scored HUGE today with permission to trap on private land owned by a family that has been here since 1870 !!...this is going to be a VERY important factor to bring up success #'s .

[Gateholio]

Hmm...Looks like that coudl be a good porch to drink beer on.8)

[proguide66]

Hmm...Looks like that coudl be a good porch to drink beer on.8)


Your drinking beer right now ARENT U !:rolleyes:

Perkins gave me written permission today....:biggrin:

[Gateholio]

Your drinking beer right now ARENT U !:rolleyes:

Perkins gave me written permission today....:biggrin:

Perfect...should be lots of wolf activity around there!

[proguide66]

Perfect...should be lots of wolf activity around there!


Its THE major travel funnel...as well that denning slope...as well...we can hunt bears in those fields this spring.8)

[hunter1947]

If you have a registered trap line, yes you are allowed cabins. A friend of mine will have his completed up the wildhorse this summer.


Steady G when you get the ok to build a cabin on your trap line ,in most cases you can't put it where you would like to ,in most cases they tell you where you can put it on your registered trap section.

[hunter1947]

P66 do you put some scent on your gloves when you put the snares out ,like skunk etc ???.

After you have eliminated the scent from your pine needle boil you still have to handle your snares to set them http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif.

[SteadyGirl]

Steady G when you get the ok to build a cabin on your trap line ,in most cases you can't put it where you would like to ,in most cases they tell you where you can put it on your registered trap section.

Are you only allowed to build one cabin per trap line?

[hunter1947]

Are you only allowed to build one cabin per trap line?


The friend of mine that has a registered tapeline in where I hunt in the EK has two ,he just built one about 6 years ago ,they give him permission on the go ahead on the second one.


And yes SG you are allowed to build more then one cabin on your trap line area as long as you go thought the right procedures..

[proguide66]

P66 do you put some scent on your gloves when you put the snares out ,like skunk etc ???.

After you have eliminated the scent from your pine needle boil you still have to handle your snares to set them http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif.


I use rubber surgical gloves when handleing them. Bought a bulk box from the auto dealer....I also leave a few pairs in my pack in a bag of bajking soda...I DONT use any scents at all on or near my snares...dont ant the wolves to ' stop' before running through.

[steelheadSABO]

skunk dosnt seem to work good for bait
it mostly keeps the wolves and coyotes away from your snares

[Look74]

Hope your not snubbing the rest of us onlookers ? we are all in this to learn, any input helps.
Its so important to get things right the first time, Wolves have uncanny senses and memories.

No I am not snubbing you,I am trying to send some pictures.but that may take some time.... I like to hook my snares as high as possible.and have lots of brush for them to tangle in for a faster kill. For bobcat and coyote in my area I make all my snares five feet long so they will all work from the same tie set up. The longer you are at a set the less you will catch, so plan what your going to do befor going in, and bring all the tools nessesary to make the set and get out. Keep a record of the number of sets you have, remember they all must be sprung at the end of the season. I know that this sounds like a GRAMPA well it is. J L

[hunter1947]

skunk dosnt seem to work good for bait
it mostly keeps the wolves and coyotes away from your snares


Thats not what my trapper friend told me when I talked to him a month ago ,he said he uses the skunk lure around his snares ,he has caught a handful of wolves so far this winter ,he is well knowen in the town of cranbrook for his trapping..

[hannibal]

Great thread. Keep it up.

[proguide66]

Many years back, early 1980's, I had just bought a trapline and went to a wolf trapping weekend workshop. The man who taught it was Dan Leigh, a trapper out of the Williams Lake area. He had a trademark pickup truck he'd refitted to accommodate logging truck tires. At the time he was reputed to be one of the most successful wolf trappers in the province, maybe in the country. I believe it. He had all kinds of tips and tricks. To begin with, he cautioned us never to leave our souls at the set. "Don't picture in your mind the wolf entering the snare or stepping in the trap" he said. He claimed that the wolf could picture what was in your mind as you walked down the trail. His strategy was to catch the Alpha male first, and then to pick up the rest of the pack at his leisure, something he was able to do quite consistently. Since I got out of the trapping business a decade ago, I don't know what ever happened to Dan. If he's still around and anyone knows how to contact him he would be an invaluable resource for this thread.

I think this could be true!!...proven by the wolves ending up where I deer hunt!...preyin on whats in my mind~!...i'll start pictureing big fat deer walking through my snare areas...( I'll try anything to make it work better)

[killman]

Many years back, early 1980's, I had just bought a trapline and went to a wolf trapping weekend workshop. The man who taught it was Dan Leigh, a trapper out of the Williams Lake area. He had a trademark pickup truck he'd refitted to accommodate logging truck tires. At the time he was reputed to be one of the most successful wolf trappers in the province, maybe in the country. I believe it. He had all kinds of tips and tricks. To begin with, he cautioned us never to leave our souls at the set. "Don't picture in your mind the wolf entering the snare or stepping in the trap" he said. He claimed that the wolf could picture what was in your mind as you walked down the trail. His strategy was to catch the Alpha male first, and then to pick up the rest of the pack at his leisure, something he was able to do quite consistently. Since I got out of the trapping business a decade ago, I don't know what ever happened to Dan. If he's still around and anyone knows how to contact him he would be an invaluable resource for this thread.

Is this the Dan with the hounds? If so I have met him before also. Nice guy. He was breeding and raising hounds. Last time I seen him they where chasing a Grizzly out Horsefly way haven't seen him since.

[Pete]

If it is the same Dan then he is one of the lead wolf trappers for the BC Cattleman's Assoc. Dan is very good at what he does. He is in the business of catching wolves not playing with them.

[Rust]

Great thread. I am looking forward to seeing some kill pic's!

[boxhitch]

P66 do you put some scent on your gloves when you put the snares out ,like skunk etc ???.

After you have eliminated the scent from your pine needle boil you still have to handle your snares to set them http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif.h, there is a differece between having a scent free-snare, and having skunk scent as a lure near the snares.
A question would be do wolves treat skunk as something to eat, a curiousity, or something to avoid ?

[killman]

h, there is a differece between having a scent free-snare, and having skunk scent as a lure near the snares.
A question would be do wolves treat skunk as something to eat, a curiousity, or something to avoid ?

You think it would cause them to avoid the area. Who wants to get sprayed by a skunk! Especially up here or North where there aren't many or any,

[Blainer]

I just jumped on board with this thread.
Lot's of reading to catch up,but very interesting.
I look forward to future picture.I see an opportunity to possibly offer us greenhorns a chance to work a trapline and offset some of you're costs,if not all and more.Not sure about legalities,but would be a great opportunity.
Have any other trappers ever offered such an opportunity?kinda like a cattle drive,but more appealing to hunters.Possibly end up with a nice wolf hide.Just a thought as there is not alot going on at this time of the year.

[boxhitch]

Why would a serious trapper offer up a portion of his bread and butter ?
Some trappers do offer trapline adventure holidays, but they are not free.

[Blainer]

Why would a serious trapper offer up a portion of his bread and butter ?
Some trappers do offer trapline adventure holidays, but they are not free.I don't believe I indicated free?
I was thinking this may be a revenue opportunity.

[hunter1947]

h, there is a differece between having a scent free-snare, and having skunk scent as a lure near the snares.
A question would be do wolves treat skunk as something to eat, a curiousity, or something to avoid ?

Boxhitch I really can't answer your question I have never been there to see what he does with the skunk lure??.

All I know is this person would not shit me ,he has a huge registerd trapline as well that he and a partner trap it ,he knowns his trapping and is an instructor in cranbrook .

But when I talk to him in Feb I will ask him how and why he used skunk lure ,he said to call him back in late Feb and he will tell me know how many wolves he caught this year with his snares and leg hold traps.

[hunter1947]

Well I just found out that I would have to pay $2000.00 dollars liability to trap on timber west land http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif.

So where I saw lots of wolf tracks and scats is out of the pic for trapping them.
The only thing I can do is try to call them in and use the rifle to shoot them.
I did open up a door to get into trapping ,this old trapper that is still trapping beaver ,wolf ,martin ,raccoons ,otter ,muskrat has invited me to get involved with his nuisance trapping.

He said he has snared 15 wolves here on the island in the last 7 years of nuisance trapping ,he said you want to learn how to trap all of what I mentioned above he said you can come with me and learn.

His nuisance trap area goes from central Vancouver island to the north end .

He also does lots of nuisance trapping for the CO.

This trapper is 75 years old and has been at it for 45 years has had his own trap lines over the years but does not have one now.

The first thing he said when I talked to him is do you know how to skin beaver ,I said no ,he said aaaaaaaa.

I said I can learn how and he said there is a special way on knowing how to skin a beaver ,you don't want to make any wrong cuts.

So we talked for an hour on the phone and he said come down to my home on this wed and I will show you how to skin a beaver ,LOL.

I asked him if anyone else helps him do his trapping ,he said NO.

We got talking more and he said I won't be able to keep trapping many more years and maybe you might want to take over my nuisance trapping ,I said of course I will take it over if everything works out the way we want it to.

This is a big plus for me ,I am so excited ,just what the doctor ordered ,can't wait to go and learn http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif.

[AlbertaAl]

I'm still waiting to see a wolf ...getting tired of reading !

Q. why werent the snare lopps supported by hay wire but just left dangling in an egg shape.

I've been snaring coyotes all my life and always support the snare loop in a perfect circle and at same time the winds and small animals can't distort its set location.
Its impossible to make cable sit in a perfect circle on its own especailly heavy cable.
I use old rusty fencing barbed or barbless fencing wire and unravel the double strand to make single wires...cut to 24" long pieces for easier storage.
I also carry an arrow stapler to staple wire or cable in place to twigs or trees for a better stationary hold.

Good luck
AL

[Pete]

I said I can learn how and he said there is a special way on knowing how to skin a beaver ,you don't want to make any wrong cuts.

So we talked for an hour on the phone and he said come down to my home on this wed and I will show you how to skin a beaver ,LOL.

I asked him if anyone else helps him do his trapping ,he said NO.

We got talking more and he said I won't be able to keep trapping many more years and maybe you might want to take over my nuisance trapping ,I said of course I will take it over if everything works out the way we want it to.

This is a big plus for me ,I am so excited ,just what the doctor ordered ,can't wait to go and learn http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif.[/quote]

You will still have to take a BCTA beginners trapping course before you can legally put in any sets to catch furbears. It is a 3 day course which covers what it will take to get you going. The focus of the program is humain trapping. As part of the program you will be taught how to skin and partake in skinning beaver, squirrels, muskrat, mink, martin coyote and more. For the folks down south raccoon is a very good one to learn how to handle properly.

[The Hermit]

Thread of the year so far! I've really enjoyed reading this one! ProGuide - ever thought about getting all set up in your area with the traps and a treestand? Thinking that if you know their travel routes why not shoot them? Is it legal to bait wolves and shoot them vs bait and snare them?

[BlacktailStalker]

Pete; He's a registered trapper.
Wayne; Maybe move to open chat so you dont hijack proguides thread...

[Rock Doctor]

Awesome thread ProGuide. Makes me want to get back into the whole trapping thing, lol.


RD

[proguide66]

Thread of the year so far! I've really enjoyed reading this one! ProGuide - ever thought about getting all set up in your area with the traps and a treestand? Thinking that if you know their travel routes why not shoot them? Is it legal to bait wolves and shoot them vs bait and snare them?

I would LOVE to shoot em out of a stand . Gate / another freind , and I built a HUGE stand last spring...right in the wolf 'funnel'...shitty draw back is I am in the 'middle' of their travel route...and they dont do much hanging around in the middle...so a guy would freeze his ass of sitting in the stand for maybe 2 weeks for 1 crack at em:p..ive been SEARCHING and SEARCHING for a moose kill...NONE....I do know where a main pack will be denning up later though...and as well as trapping , there is a 'pre thought up' ' fox-pro ' attack at the ready for that spot later in the season....so , STILL waiting for them to travel back up from HAMMERING on our deer herd...hopefully 'someone' will come up with a dead beef in the meantime...then I can dump it and keep them hanging around the middle for a while....so...the 'waiting' goes on...and on....and ON...:roll:....it'll happen..:biggrin:...anyone curious about how long its been so far since ' first snare' , check the date of the first post.

[GoatGuy]

Thread of the year so far! I've really enjoyed reading this one! ProGuide - ever thought about getting all set up in your area with the traps and a treestand? Thinking that if you know their travel routes why not shoot them? Is it legal to bait wolves and shoot them vs bait and snare them?

You must be a very patient person.

One of the guys I used to work for had a serious bait-pile going 6 months of the year and that doesn't guarantee you a wolf.

Sitting on an unbaited travel route may be somewhat time consuming! :lol:

[BiG Boar]

I want pics of dead animals!!! Come on wolfies!!!

[proguide66]

I'm still waiting to see a wolf ...getting tired of reading !

Q. why werent the snare lopps supported by hay wire but just left dangling in an egg shape.

I've been snaring coyotes all my life and always support the snare loop in a perfect circle and at same time the winds and small animals can't distort its set location.
Its impossible to make cable sit in a perfect circle on its own especailly heavy cable.
I use old rusty fencing barbed or barbless fencing wire and unravel the double strand to make single wires...cut to 24" long pieces for easier storage.
I also carry an arrow stapler to staple wire or cable in place to twigs or trees for a better stationary hold.

Good luck
AL
Thanks for the input Al....this post is exactly what I am / we are hoping to attract!!...keep er comin.....

Is there ANY past /present EXPERIENCED WOLF TRAPPERS reading?...if so...post away with ANYTHING that might help.

[trapman]

Hello proguide your thread sure has made my phone ring . I have had calls from people from bcwf ,farmer from Pemberton , a few members of the Mount Currie band and the natural resource department of the Metis council BC were concerned someone was using my lines at Pemberton . It sounds like you are using the south and west side of the valley for your trapping that's great .My lines run 1 1/2 miles east of the Hurley pass road until the head of the Lillooet glacier . What does bother me a little is a picture you posted of your snowmobile overlooking the fogged in valley . You have all your trapping gear on it and the picture was clearly taken on my line . 2.6km off of the Lillooet river road , heading northeast on the Hurley pass road to be exact. I,m hoping you were just passing through . I have also heard you were a down to earth good guy and I wish you luck with your wolves . I seem to see the same 3 to 5 wolves come over the top at salal creek from Bridge river area . They head southeast and up the the Hurley , every 3 to 4 weeks .I have only set snares 1 times for them , and that I caught an eagle . For me its not worth the chance of killing an eagle . And unlike your experience with your eagle well trapping ,mine caught me twice and I have the scars to prove it . I am very new to this site and tried to send you a private message but could not . If there is a way please contact me and we can chat Good trapping

[ElkMasterC]

Going to Clinton in a week or two...even got some lame-ass cows lined up.

Gonna be good!

Giggety giggety goo!



(Damn civil post, Trapman, considering the tone you could have taken. Hats off to you.)

[Dirty]

How the hell do you catch an Eagle in a snare set just off the ground?

[proguide66]

Hello proguide your thread sure has made my phone ring . I have had calls from people from bcwf ,farmer from Pemberton , a few members of the Mount Currie band and the natural resource department of the Metis council BC were concerned someone was using my lines at Pemberton . It sounds like you are using the south and west side of the valley for your trapping that's great .My lines run 1 1/2 miles east of the Hurley pass road until the head of the Lillooet glacier . What does bother me a little is a picture you posted of your snowmobile overlooking the fogged in valley . You have all your trapping gear on it and the picture was clearly taken on my line . 2.6km off of the Lillooet river road , heading northeast on the Hurley pass road to be exact. I,m hoping you were just passing through . I have also heard you were a down to earth good guy and I wish you luck with your wolves . I seem to see the same 3 to 5 wolves come over the top at salal creek from Bridge river area . They head southeast and up the the Hurley , every 3 to 4 weeks .I have only set snares 1 times for them , and that I caught an eagle . For me its not worth the chance of killing an eagle . And unlike your experience with your eagle well trapping ,mine caught me twice and I have the scars to prove it . I am very new to this site and tried to send you a private message but could not . If there is a way please contact me and we can chat Good trapping


Great to hear from you!!!.....the picture with the sled is actually right on top of the Mackenzie Basin...my neighbor has the trap line in there( who also gave me permission)...I went for a Quick 'tour' from the bottom all the way to the radio tower..checked on our live deer trap we have up there via our club..!!...the picture with the fog in the bottom is looking up the Pemberton Valley ( Camelback/Ryan river half way up on left ) , Hurley pass out of site wayyy up valley to the right side,...the other pic is looking right at Whistler from the radio tower!!..hehe...
No doubt about the eagle talons!!...those things are like 'hydrolic clamps'...crazy!...

I knew before starting this thing it would be causing a BIG stir...have JUMPED on top of any 'crap' right away and it seems to be staying 'civil'...I saw it as a way to get through to fellow hunters to take it upon themselves to make a difference...hope it works...too easy to bitch about wolves while hunting ...then go home...but the wolves keep at her !...

We will talk soon i'm sure!!...thanks for the note!

note:...funny , i just looked at the photo again...it could very EASILY look like it was on the Hurley pass...kinda like looking from branch 12..lol....but pointing out , you can see the sun shining in the Ryan valley way up on left...North Creek is in the 'crotch' of the valley...Meager is peeking its top in the far end and Mount Pauline/Hurley is completely out of site wayy up on the right.!!!!...

[Blainer]

How the hell do you catch an Eagle in a snare set just off the ground?Remember the bait?

[proguide66]

How the hell do you catch an Eagle in a snare set just off the ground?


eagles are actually tall sons of bitches!lol...and they 'bounce' when travelling on land...if you set snares too close to a kill you will most certainly catch raptors...this is drilled into us during the trap course...their heads hit the loop perfectly....the one I caught was on a steep bank...I spooked them...all flew up as well the ravens , but one just kept 'bouncing' down the snow slope...thought he might have been really full...and hit the first snare under a jackpine..thankfully I was there.

[trapman]

Sorry I confused Ryan Creek with Meager creek . Well like I said before good luck with the wolves and lets chat

[proguide66]

Sorry I confused Ryan Creek with Meager creek . Well like I said before good luck with the wolves and lets chat


No worries!!...easily done up in this country!!...every valley looks the same...fog in the bottom doesnt help a bit..lolol...we'll chat soon !...not tonight , we'd probably be on the phone fer hrs..gettin late...up early tomarrow - try to get some wolves for all to see !! ( I think Rick Gander might have mentioned you to me ?? ....I'm on his line as well .)

[trapman]

the snare that I caught the eagle was over 120 feet from the bait , don't know why . I think that the bait was under the snow , the eagle could smell it but cant see it so he walked in , because there were prints every where that's the only thing I can think of

[Blainer]

No worries!!...easily done up in this country!!...every valley looks the same...fog in the bottom doesnt help a bit..lolol...we'll chat soon !...not tonight , we'd probably be on the phone fer hrs..gettin late...up early tomarrow - try to get some wolves for all to see !! ( I think Rick Gander might have mentioned you to me ?? ....I'm on his line as well .)I remember him telling me he had a line up there,and I wondered if it was possibly his line you were working.
Good stuff,look forward to more pictures and wonder if he's following this thread.

[proguide66]

I remember him telling me he had a line up there,and I wondered if it was possibly his line you were working.
Good stuff,look forward to more pictures and wonder if he's following this thread.


lolol...I was the 'lucky one' to recieve Ricks VERY first email...not very long ago...and he kept typing messages in the address space..lolol...got a feeling he's not on here...YET...:razz:

[Pete]

Are your bait stations in the trees?

[proguide66]

WE HAVE A WOLF !.......its peacefully sleeping in the box of my truck....VERY detailed pictures soon to follow.....my computor is slow as shit...getting lunch...try it later...haha:twisted:

[Mr. Dean]

WE HAVE A WOLF !.......its peacefully sleeping in the box of my truck....VERY detailed pictures soon to follow.....my computor is slow as shit...getting lunch...try it later...haha:twisted:


WOOHOOO!!!

:cool:

[proguide66]

So...went for the 'full tour' this am....hasnt been 2 weeks yet...but ya never know....anyway...was coming up to the first set ( the one with the deer leg /hides in the willow patch along the road....where the old deer kill was...where The Beav flipped out)...anyway...creeping up the road and saw this in the near distance...:biggrin:http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09009.jpg



http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09010.jpg

[proguide66]

This is perhaps the fatsest 'dispatch' yet....note in the pictures there is only ONE ' kink' in the snare line...right by his ear...this wolf ' passed on' with VERY little struggle- VERY QUICK !. The cam lock is in the ' PERFECT' position -- tight to the skull..I'm imagining only way to faster death would be bullet to head.

Sadly , we missed two others....one , the snare is pulled right out...i'm thinking snout maybe.
NOTE : the deer leg is being 'chiseled away ' safely by a bobcat...snares at PERFECT wolf height...cat not being harmed...
Another loop at a different spot was flipped right over..nothing in it.

SO...there ya have it boys and girls!...less than 2 weeks..no big bait piles...1 wolf down....now imagine how many would be dead if we ALL DID THIS the last 2 weeks in our hunting areas !!!!!!!!!!!!......

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09011.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09012.jpg

[Gus]

Good for you proguide, nice piece of work

[proguide66]

Now some guy's might say " too bad its a small one"...BUT...for my goals , this couldnt be better.....its a female..its NOT an alpha wolf......PERFECT.
Hopefully I can get as many this class wolf as possible...or even the WHOLE pack.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09014.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09015.jpg

[proguide66]

So..on with the day...its been nearly 2 weeks..main pack hasnt come through yet..so I felt it was time to place a ' trial /error ' spot with some leg holds / bait , right at a VERY well used intersection....easy to sled by and look without having to walk in.
I also noticed some cross country ski tracks with dog tracks..so I made metal signs in my metal shop...placed for the owner to see.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09001.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09002.jpg
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09003.jpg

[proguide66]

I placed a chunk of bait on the backside of a tree and as well used snare wire to teather it so they would wrestle it..hit the traps...only 2 tight routes ' in'...I placed 4 leg holds in the routes.

I also use plastic ' produce' bags to slip over the leg holds...this takes the place of wax paper...kills scent , stops moisture from freezing up the trap , wich makes it NOT spring.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09005.jpg
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09006.jpg
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09008.jpg

[moosinaround]

Excellent! Should save a few mulies! or more!! Good job! Moosin

[proguide66]

One more point..its illegal to re-use a 'used' snare...this one had only one kink...I still removed it...promptly replaced it...left the scene asap....oh ya , and ran over my 243 by accident with the sled:oops:

[Mr. Dean]

You're one diabolical mutha. :evil:

[grumpy]

keep up the good work
the sign is an excellent idea

[BlacktailStalker]

Glad to see all your hard work paying off, congrats.

[todbartell]

good work PG66! :D

[yama49]

GREAT JOB !!!!!!!! keep the the good work.....

[killman]

One down! good job. My brother phoned me today at 3pm and told me he was watching 6 wolves on the other side of the river from his work. He works at the mill in town.

[spreerider]

wow this is a great thread to read, grats on the wolf down,
definatly making me want to take the course at least and possibly try my hand at this one day.

I live on van isl anyone know if there is a course offered on island, i dont want to take a ferry if i can help it.

[Lorne]

If anyone is interested in taking their trapping license in the maple ridge area.. I am looking to get mine, but in order to get a class going on a weekend we need 6 people or so and as of right now we only have 3 if anyone would be interseted let me know.

[martyonthewater]

nice goin proguide, hopefully just the 1st of many

[Blainer]

That is great stuff.
Can't wait to see what the next few weeks bring,now that the action is heating up.

[houndogger]

Congrats 66! You are going to make your area into some awesome hound doggin in the near future:razz:

[bsa30-06]

Congrats....Keep the pictures coming, excellent thread.

[3kills]

this is an awesome thread and was hopin it could get a sticky??? i have been meaning to read it from the start but my time on hbc is quick visits and never read it all the way through just the odd post...till tonight that is i just finished readin all 23 pages of posts and it makes me wanna start trapping but as of right now cant afford it and i know my wife wont allow it so i will have keep tryin to shoot them if and when i see them...congrats on the first wolf of the year keep up the good work its appriceated for sure....

[BcBob]

Congrats this is a great thread .

[hunter1947]

Way to go P66 ,one down and 12 deer saved for the year ,congrats on getting the job done http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif.

[Look74]

Great job. The small ones will get bigger, taking a young one may be better then taking an old one.

[proguide66]

Great job. The small ones will get bigger, taking a young one may be better then taking an old one.

Thanks..words from you are well worthy of reading!.....Sir , you are close to ' legend status ' for your trapping and predator control!!.....:cool:

I'm encouraging you to tell the readers about your background....and in turn they may seek great knowledge from you!!

I am actually more ' stoked' to see a handfull of guy's getting their licenses than getting that wolf yesterday:grin:...motivation for this thread:biggrin:

Govt cutbacks ect ect....WHO is out there to head of the 'peak' of the predators?..there's already rumblings about making our area 1 deer instead of 2..Squamish is apperantly getting a shorter season now , ect ect..:sad:

You guy's near Vavenby and the Mad river.....I used to hunt there LOTS years back...gave a go last Nov...never seen as much wolf sign in my life ...crazy...followed their sign , damned things were even going into thick brush just to sniff a buck rub....hope someone out there is reading this...

How about you sheep dudes......wonder how many sheep you transplant get dropped off on wolf plates??...nice to get involved....focus on the wolves would do much more i'm sure !:idea:

You fellas thinking about doing this , get on that group of 3 that are ready to go!!...BC Ferry ride isnt THAT painfull!..lol:razz:

[elker]

wow this is a great thread to read, grats on the wolf down,
definatly making me want to take the course at least and possibly try my hand at this one day.

I live on van isl anyone know if there is a course offered on island, i dont want to take a ferry if i can help it.

I just got my trapping certificate after 3 days course. My teacher is Jerry Baker at Crofton. If you need more info, pls pm me.

[Angel]

Great Thread! I havent been a big fan of trapping, but im starting to get more on board with it. Great read and lots of good input from everyone. keep it coming.

[Gateholio]

One more point..its illegal to re-use a 'used' snare...this one had only one kink...I still removed it...promptly replaced it...left the scene asap....oh ya , and ran over my 243 by accident with the sled:oops:


Good use of a .243.:p

[BiG Boar]

pretty sweet. Now go get more wolves!!!!

[proguide66]

Good use of a .243.:p


Funny , its the same gun you have been BEGGING to buy off me....hmmm....remember you said " shit , if I had that 243 of yours I wouldnt have missed that ram"....PWAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA..:roll::biggrin:

[GoatGuy]

Funny , its the same gun you have been BEGGING to buy off me....hmmm....remember you said " shit , if I had that 243 of yours I wouldnt have missed that ram"....PWAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA..:roll::biggrin:

ahhhaahahahaha

[Kitimat Killer]

way to go i've been reading this whole thread it's awesome to see you hard work pay off i have helped a friend on his trap line a couple of years ago and found it very addicting just want to go back every time to see what you had in the traps never did the wolf trapping just beavers,marten and otters way to go pg66

[6 K]

Sure am enjoying this thread, thanks. My weekend hunt only produced tracks but reading this is inspiring, I'll keep at it. Forgive my ignorance:redface: but could you explain more about the "Not wanting the Alpha pair" theory.
Does this maintain breading only once a year?
Also, how do you check leg hold traps? Just visually and if nothing there move on? Do they need to be lifted and replaced after a snow? How do you ensure you don't get caught without giving their location away to the wolves? I suppose you could get a cross country skier running in to save their pet as well hu?
I am not condemning just curious on what precautions are taken. I would have never thought of it till I read your sign.

Congrats on the first of many, I hope.

[Tikka7mm]

Good work PG66...Hopefully this little female is the first of many more to come!

[proguide66]

Sure am enjoying this thread, thanks. My weekend hunt only produced tracks but reading this is inspiring, I'll keep at it. Forgive my ignorance:redface: but could you explain more about the "Not wanting the Alpha pair" theory.
Does this maintain breading only once a year?
Also, how do you check leg hold traps? Just visually and if nothing there move on? Do they need to be lifted and replaced after a snow? How do you ensure you don't get caught without giving their location away to the wolves? I suppose you could get a cross country skier running in to save their pet as well hu?
I am not condemning just curious on what precautions are taken. I would have never thought of it till I read your sign.

Congrats on the first of many, I hope.

Well...first I'll never claim to be an 'expert' of any kind...but can share the knowledge I have collected so far....
The 'alpha pair' control the rest of the pack and are the only breeding pair in the pack. If you take out the alpha's the rest of the pack can split off into mulitple breeding pairs wich makes WAYY MORE wolves the next yr.....the best thing you can do is get the whole pack or as many of the 'lesser wolves' as possible...quote from local bio , " you will NEVER kill ALL the wolves...impossible" , answer to my question of how many to kill.

I'm sure there are many different methods of trapping for each trapper. Law- 72hrs max between checking non-killing sets. Personally , I situate them in a well used 'wolf corridor' where it is easy for me to sled by and look without having to walk in to them.

Of course when it snows it changes everything...I think you may be ok with a few inches..but if it freezes it wont work....have to go re-set everything out there....no shortage of sweating for trappers...its VERY challenging for winter trapping in the coastal mountains...we often get 20cm plus in 24hrs.

Dog owners should be in control of their animals where ever they are. One particular parcel I am on is private property and very rural.Many wolves..spring time , lots of grizzlies and as well cats. I noticed 'someone' went through at least twice this winter with their dog...I placed 3 signs in 3 places the person would NOT miss them....if their dog stay's with them on the rd/trail wont be a problem. If they let their dog go off into the bush running free...there's going to be a problem...wich trappers dont need.;)

You guy's getting ready to trap..better have thick skin , no shortage of 'yuppies' ready to attack...out of sight /mind is what I try to do( note I never used the word ' trapping' on my sign )....:wink:

[boxhitch]

Caught one, good going.
But two misses, that concerns me :razz: lol
Any ideas on what didn't work quite right ?? Support ? Falling snow ?

[d6dan]

Way to go Proguide66!. This thread is Great!. Learning lots from you. Great way to spend the winter months and very rewarding too. d6dan

[proguide66]

Well....decided to REALLY load up the 'foot trap' spot....close to two weeks , the big pack hasnt come through yet...shouldnt be long...so..having permission in THE HOT SPOT .. makes it easy to go check every few days....as well , a club member dropped off left overs from an elk hind quarter8)...I strapped this to the tree and LOADED the place up with even more foot traps..circled the big cedars ..now 10 foot traps...should at least get 2 or 3 of them when they come....as well placed a dozen snares starting 50 yrds away in places I think they might 'mill around' while their partners are chained up to the tree...
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09001-1.jpg

[proguide66]

So.( kinda unrelated but what the hell)..noticed there was LOTS of cyote /b-cat activity..mild today , makes a difference....after trapping , sighted in my KICK ASS .243 ( yes , the one Gate wants :razz:)..turns out it was fine after being ran over by the sled..:shock:went up the valley along the river bed looking for sign ect....wayyy of in the distance a canine siloete ( spelling)..so..wolf in mind..start trying to get my glove off...find a bullet in my jacket..fingers cold , panicking to get the pocket zipper un done..ect ect..you guys know the one.....:roll:...take a rest , aimed maybe 3" over its back line..thump...yote down...obvious too low , its doin the 'wheelbarrow' across the snow...aim maybe 5" over its back..thump , done deal...heart exited out far side.
So...I'm no gun freak er mathmatician...but its zero'd for 2" high at 100 yrds...shooting 95 grain bullets Gate got me...havent a clue how far..but it was a loooong ways off....:biggrin:...so..'Mr. Diabolical' loaded the doggy up..now he's sleeping in the freezer with his cousin Ms. wolf...8)
You KNOW Gate wants a 243 even worse now:-P

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09002-1.jpg


http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/proguide66/wolf09003-1.jpg

[Gateholio]

Here is a drop table for your ammo

http://www.federalpremium.com/products/GraphPages/BallisticGraphs/LongTrajectoryGraph.aspx

[proguide66]

You're one diabolical mutha. :evil:

Sweet talk 'll get ya nowhere :biggrin:

[proguide66]

Here is a drop table for your ammo

http://www.federalpremium.com/products/GraphPages/BallisticGraphs/LongTrajectoryGraph.aspx

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