A scenario ????

[BIGHUNTERFISH]

You are driving to your hunting spot at first light and go through a ranch, you spot a monster nontypical muledeer in the field feeding.
The land is posted no trespassing or hunting without permission,you know the ranch house is just a 1/4 mile back,so you turn around and tell the story about the buck to the rancher.He says if you give me three hundred cash and a bottle of Crown Royal then you can shoot him.What do you do?

[oddsix]

shoot the thing tag, load, heel to the steel:)

[tooley]

how monsterous? If he's a once in a lifetime buck, next year at this time you'll kick yourself, it was only 300 bucks. ...... So come on what did you do?

[huntwriter]

You are driving to your hunting spot at first light and go through a ranch, you spot a monster nontypical muledeer in the field feeding.
The land is posted no trespassing or hunting without permission,you know the ranch house is just a 1/4 mile back,so you turn around and tell the story about the buck to the rancher.He says if you give me three hundred cash and a bottle of Crown Royal then you can shoot him.What do you do?

Tell him to get lost.
That is exactly how it started many years ago in America. First the landowner asked for money and today they demand a lease contract before they let someone hunt on their property. The result. Hunting has become completely commercialized like in Europe where only the rich can afford to hunt. It’s behavior like that, that will kill our unique hunting heritage and prevent new hunters from entering our ranks.

If I want to pay for hunting access I go with an outfitter or one of those high fence operations at least that way I get my moneys worth.

[wetcoastwillie]

I'd ask to speak to his wife, tell him you want to dicker. :biggrin:

[humble hunter]

Stop take a photo and drive on as you would look at the mount for the rest of your life and know it was a lame hunt (if you could call it that).

[sawmill]

Would he take a cheque?And two beers.Final offer.

[whitespringer]

I would offer a bottle of crown, thats just showing appreciation. $300, no way.:evil:

[BIGHUNTERFISH]

Do you think the farmer would ask for three hundred if you didnt tell him it was a monster nontypical?How about excuse me sir,I just saw a buck in your field and I was looking to get some meat to feed my wife and five hungry children,the only reason I am hunting is because I got laid off my job of 20 years.I would like to offer you the tenderloin and backstraps for your kindness.:razz:

[johnk]

You are driving to your hunting spot at first light and go through a ranch, you spot a monster nontypical muledeer in the field feeding.
The land is posted no trespassing or hunting without permission,you know the ranch house is just a 1/4 mile back,so you turn around and tell the story about the buck to the rancher.He says if you give me three hundred cash and a bottle of Crown Royal then you can shoot him.What do you do?

Don't see why you would ask that. Looks pretty cut and dry from here. Either pay him or go hunt public land.

I know the rancher in question and Bob is a great feller, though perhaps a little too redneck for you boys! He sets the price at "unreasonable"because he doesn't want anyone hunting his farmland. He's had some nightmares in the past. Don't bother asking his wife either, she thinks that all the muleys in their hayfields are her pets.

Drive all the goat trails in the area and perhaps one day you'll find the access to the ridge behind his ranch which the locals call "Deer Alley".

Perhaps next time introduce "yourselves" with a bottle of Crown Royal(his greatest weakness) during the offseason and sit down for a bullsh*t session and then your hunting season requests may have a more favourable outcome. Be warned, he will drink you under the table and then he'll give you a ride home!

[johnk]

Do you think the farmer would ask for three hundred if you didnt tell him it was a monster nontypical?How about excuse me sir,I just saw a buck in your field and I was looking to get some meat to feed my wife and five hungry children,the only reason I am hunting is because I got laid off my job of 20 years.I would like to offer you the tenderloin and backstraps for your kindness.:razz:

He is the type of guy who would probably give you a side of beef for your misfortune but you wouldn't be hunting his land, period! I think that maybe he has all the tenderloin and backstraps he needs unless he has developed a taste for stinky rutting buckmeat!:tongue:

[elkdom]

If the rancher asked for money and/or wisky in order for me to hunt, I'd say good day and leave, trying my best to avoid driving over his dog or running into any of his cows! on the way off his property,,,,,ADIOS BANDITO!

[BIGHUNTERFISH]

John ,
It sounds like you might have had a few shots off Crown Royal tonight,I made this scenario up to see what the response would be.Who is Bob ?and are there really aliens living on his property.lol .:razz:

[FLHTCUI]

I know of a few farmers here in Richmond that allow you to hunt on thier land, but when you come knocking on their door during the season right at night flight what kinda answer do you expect ?
Realalistacly did you think he was going to say yes? He doesnt knoqw who you are or does he?
I'm just saying you had a 50-50 chance and you lost. But, maybe next year while your on a scouting trip with a bottle of CR you may try him again for not just the one time chance but maybe several chances over the season.
I know it has worked for me locally.
Better Luck Next Year.
Rob
btw, I wasnt trying to sound like a smart a@#, even though I can be a Jack A&& from time to time.

[johnk]

I have a few shots of Crown Royal every night so that would be a fairly safe prediction, Chris!:mrgreen:
OOPS, my mistake! It was just a hypothetical scenario...suggested during the rut.....with no snow.......having trouble finding bucks.....I should have known better. Better run and fix myself another double!

[1899]

Wasn't there a farmer in the Christian Valley about +10 years back who was charged and convicted for doing this? He would let you hunt on his land but charged a fee, which varied depending on what you shot.

[tomahawk]

Walk away and watch and hope the buck comes on to Crown Land.

[BIGHUNTERFISH]

Fisher Dude told me paying to hunt is like paying for sex,he now hunts exclusively on The Mustang Ranch with his 6 shooter and 180 grains of Viagra.:razz:

[Wild one]

I would of said no thanks and asked his the guy next door and hope do get him when he jumped the fence.I hunted a lot of private land in Alberta and I found if I asked the farmer in the spring and offered to help with some farm work 80% would say yes. The best part was not one put me to work but some of the farmers told me the fact I willing to help is the reason I was allowed to hunt there land and others were told no.

[421fighter]

Depends on what is posted. If it says no shooting, or no hunting, even he can't shoot or hunt. But, if it says with permission, and he won't give it unless at a price, I'd thank him and drive away. D P

[CanuckShooter]

Fisher Dude told me paying to hunt is like paying for sex,he now hunts exclusively on The Mustang Ranch with his 6 shooter and 180 grains of Viagra.:razz:

Now this one made me laugh....good one !!~!!

[CanuckShooter]

Depends on what is posted. If it says no shooting, or no hunting, even he can't shoot or hunt. D P

And who is going to stop him? Me-thinks this idea is another urban myth !! Private property is private property...and you can make the rules of behaviour on your property..and you can break the rules on your property..your the boss...you make the rules.

[Ron.C]

I don't know about paying for a one time shot, which I don't think I'd do but I don't see the issue if a landowner wanted to charge money or lease for season long hunting privliges.

[hunter1947]

This deer probably would be a buck of the life time so three hundred bucks would be worth taking this monster deer.
I would only give him the money if I connected with this buck.

The way I would do it is say to him jump into my truck and I will go shoot it if it is still there,if it was gone then I would not be out the three hundred bucks as for the crown Royal.

[elkdom]

And just to add a bit of HARSH REALITY to this fantasy thread, A lot of

organized poaching happens on private land, baiting bears, killing game out of

season, exceeding bag limmits, illegal guiding, pit lamping, the list is long,

so when a land owner requests payment in cash or goods from me to hunt,

my response is a loud and polite, NO thank you sir ! Good Day Sir !


Some land holders have the impression that private land is similar,


to Las Vagas,,,,,, what happens on La vagas ranch! ,,,


stays on Las Vegas ranch!!! its goin on, most people are not aware!!

[Salty]

I went through this similar situation several times this year in the northern parts of region 8. I never saw Mr big standing out in the field with those 50 plus does, but I was pretty sure that at first light/last light there would be a good chance. Most areas posted 'don't even think about hunting' or something like that. But a lot of areas posted 'no hunting without permission'.

Most nights around the campfire after a few wobbley pops I thought screw it, tomorrow I'm going to go knock on xyz Ranch's door. Then the next day I just couldn't do it. I thought sluicing a big buck using a fence post for a rest type of thing would leave me a bit cold..

A guy even approached me as I was walking back to my truck one day. He could see I was hunting - stopped for a bullshite session. Nice fellow. With bad jokes lol.. Anyways turns out he owned 170 acres down the road and casually let it slip that he rents it out to bow hunters later in the year. I took that as a bit of an offer but I didn't bite. Before he left the guy gave me some tips on crown land and about who's who in the zoo in the area type of thing, so that was again, pretty nice of him..

Maybe its just my personal predjudice/hang ups, but I just don't dig the idea of smoking a deer in buddys alfalfa field. And this business of paying to do so is a non starter for me. As a few have said back there it could lead to an Americanized hunting for the rich only scenario which I don't like the thought of..

Anyways, just my two bits and not a slag at all to those that like hunting the farmlands. And luckily we are blessed with lots of crown land in BC, even if its not in the valley bottoms very often lol...

[goatdancer]

Next thing you know he might want you to breed his wife of 65 years...:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Will]

I can honestly say I'd never have knocked on his door in the 1st place....:-?
We see plenty of Nice Bucks around town hanging out in fields,backyards and such......why bother ?
The norm nowadays is either profit for the landowner or they don't want anyone shooting thier "pets" and get downright pissy you even inquired about it :roll:

Keep the blinders on till you hit Crown land and no dilemmas:wink:

[421fighter]

And who is going to stop him? Me-thinks this idea is another urban myth !! Private property is private property...and you can make the rules of behaviour on your property..and you can break the rules on your property..your the boss...you make the rules.
Well, my Dad had a ranch and was going to post it, using posters provided by the livestock association. Since some of us hunted, he was advised to not post it as no hunting, because it wasn't legal to do so, even by the land owner. That was the advice of his legal council. I would guess you can do as you please, but sometimes there are consiquences. Just like driving through a stop sign.

[CanuckShooter]

Well, my Dad had a ranch and was going to post it, using posters provided by the livestock association. Since some of us hunted, he was advised to not post it as no hunting, because it wasn't legal to do so, even by the land owner. That was the advice of his legal council. I would guess you can do as you please, but sometimes there are consiquences. Just like driving through a stop sign.

If that is the advice his legal council gave him then he is best to follow that advice.

Do we have any legal-beagals on here? Can you point us to something concrete that says to post your private property 'no hunting' and then to hunt on it yourself is illegal?? I'll continue to think it's an urban myth until I am educated otherwise.