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1899
08-02-2008, 01:50 PM
I was on an outfitter's web site and was checking out the license fees and rates page. They say you have to pay a "royalty" for moose, black bear and deer taken on your hunt. Has anyone ever heard of this? I assume it is for non-residents as the license fees listed are for non-residents. The royalties are $125 for moose, $75 for black bear and $50 for deer (plus GST). I know there are royalties payable by trappers.

Does anyone know what this is about?

6616
08-02-2008, 02:18 PM
Royaltiess only apply to non-resident harvest.

todbartell
08-02-2008, 05:18 PM
you pay extra when you kill your animal, pretty common for guided hunts

elkdom
08-02-2008, 05:28 PM
you pay extra when you kill your animal, pretty common for guided hunts

Pretty much all Guide Outfitters charge a "trophyfee"on top off the charges for the guided hunt!, but from non-residents the BC Gov't also demands a "royalty fee" from non residents including 'accompanied hunts' rolaty fees apply to some species upon the harvest of some animals! boils down to if your gonna play,your gonna PAY !

Blainer
08-02-2008, 06:44 PM
Should be information about this in the hunting regs.
Non-residents only.

The Hermit
08-02-2008, 06:47 PM
The royalty fee is charged by MOE on all non-resident hunts even for other Canadians who are being escorted by a BC resident that has a permit to accompany... I know this cause I have an Albertan friend joining me on an elk hunt this year. There is no break for non-resident Canadians either... they pay the same high licence and tag fee as anyone from Europe or Tiwan! I think that is just plain wrong! :-(

1899
08-02-2008, 10:09 PM
Thanks for the info. I checked in the regs before I posted and didn't find anything.

silvicon
08-03-2008, 08:25 AM
Hermit,
why should be there a break for non-BC Canadians?
because you engage in guiding a 'buddy' from Alberta?
how many excemtions should there be?
as i see it, the 'permit to accompany' should be done away with.
non-BC Canadians should use a licensed outfitter!

Hilgy
08-03-2008, 01:01 PM
Silvicon,

I guess we had better get started on those provincial boarder fences eh!!!

I've shot game that lives on both sides of the BC-AB boarders as well as the AB-SASK boarders. How do you propose we stop the animals from going back and forth.

I dont mind paying a little more for my tags or licence to hunt with friends in another province.


Hilgy

gitnadoix
08-03-2008, 03:33 PM
Hermit,
non-BC Canadians should use a licensed outfitter!

give it a rest ..... you make it sound like the outfitters actualy own the animals that walk freely in this province.

Blainer
08-03-2008, 04:58 PM
Hermit,
why should be there a break for non-BC Canadians?
because you engage in guiding a 'buddy' from Alberta?
how many excemtions should there be?
as i see it, the 'permit to accompany' should be done away with.
non-BC Canadians should use a licensed outfitter!

I believe I read a thread earlier last week,where it quoted you saying that you put LEH in areas that you guide in order to keep one less resident hunter from having an opportunity.I also believe it said you did not intend to use the tag,it's intended purpose was for the purpose stated above.
Is this so?
Should all residents of Canada have to hunt thru the Silvicon Guide outfitting service?
Ever wonder how some GO's receive a bad name?,or how distention starts between residents and GO's.
It's not painful to think before you speak.

The Hermit
08-03-2008, 06:08 PM
Canadian First - BC'er second!! I wouldn't mind paying an extra twenty or fifty to hunt in another province but I'd stand on Parliament Hill and SCREAM bloody blue murder to BAN outfitters before having to use one in MY Country to hunt MY game! I got two words for you and anyone that thinks/acts like you Silvicon but I can't use them here cause I'd get banned for life!!

sfire436
08-03-2008, 06:16 PM
I think you have been been beat there Hermit! Now be like a Hermit crab and crawl under a rock! I think Guide/outfitters have a great role to play in B.C. Hunting Issues, But I to have seen your posts and am not too impressed by them

Sitkaspruce
08-03-2008, 07:28 PM
Hermit,
why should be there a break for non-BC Canadians?
because you engage in guiding a 'buddy' from Alberta?
how many excemtions should there be?
as i see it, the 'permit to accompany' should be done away with.
non-BC Canadians should use a licensed outfitter!

Give it a rest will ya!!!!

I am not sure if you throw out those comments to stir the pot and see what boils over (like it has with some posters), or if you really believe the crap you are spewing. I will tend to think of the latter right now, but will reserve the judgement for when you actually tell us who you guide for and where.

In the mean time, keep your fingers still as you are giving us other legit guides a bad round or two. You tend to talk as though you know what you are talking about, but all you really say is mumble/jumble that pi$$ other people off. If that is the name of the game, then you are doing a good job.....but keep my job and other like me out of it. Go find some other sand box to go play in.

Cheers

SS

Avalanche123
08-03-2008, 07:59 PM
Silivicon - The GO's that I know would shake their heads if they knew you made such comments on a public forum.

However its your business and reputation. Carry on....

Blainer
08-03-2008, 10:27 PM
I think you have been been beat there Hermit! Now be like a Hermit crab and crawl under a rock! I think Guide/outfitters have a great role to play in B.C. Hunting Issues, But I to have seen your posts and am not too impressed by them

Don't really understand you're dig on Hermit?I pulled some of his most recent posts and seen no issue.I think what he his trying to say is that Canadians should be able to hunt other provinces without huge costs and should have priority over non-residents of Canada.I don't think anyone disputes the role GO's play in B.C.,but not all agree that there services are needed in other provinces among fellow Canadians.
I intend to hunt in Sask. this fall with family and don't feel I should need a guide.

The Hermit
08-03-2008, 11:17 PM
I don't have any issue with guiding per se but I do have an issue with the notion that Canadians should be required to use a guide anywhere in our country to hunt our game! My friend was a hunter host for me in Alberta a couple years ago on a white-tail hunt and I'm returning the favor on an elk hunt this year. That is not guiding and is totally different than an alien coming here to hunt.

And this Silvicon's post about buying LEH draws and not using them in an effort to sway the allocation process in favor of the guides totally sucks and belies his true nature...

Gateholio
08-04-2008, 01:32 AM
I've got some great friends in other parts of Canada, and I've got some great friends in the USA, Australia, England and France.

I'd like to be able to host some of these non Canadians on some hunts, just as I can host non BC'ers in BC for some hunts. I don't mind a few restrictions on species, etc but I'd sure love to take out my buddy in Illinois for a black bear hunt.

gitnadoix
08-04-2008, 10:41 AM
Perhaps he's just trolling for fun, maybe not, regardless as it now stands we are allowed to do accompanied hunts in BC, for most species. And considering the value of the species we cant do accompanied hunts on its easy to see why MOE has not opened that can of worm for sheep etc. I wish they could but that kinda money would have every tom dick and harry suddenly coming outa the wood work with all sorts of new friends.

So