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Brambles
02-21-2008, 10:50 PM
Here's some real crappy video I took of this bull through my spotting scope. Both were pretty much zoomed to the max so he was pretty far away.

His 5th point on one side was broken but I figure if he was whole he might be a 330 ish bull. What do you figure?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/Brambles77/th_MVI_0179.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v437/Brambles77/?action=view&current=MVI_0179.flv)


He was considerably larger that a couple other 6 points he was with.
Here's the second largest one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/Brambles77/IMG_0177.jpg

Will
02-21-2008, 10:53 PM
I don't know Elk scores from nothing but I do know in a 3 point season I'd Blast him :biggrin:

Brambles
02-21-2008, 11:01 PM
I don't know Elk scores from nothing but I do know in a 3 point season I'd Blast him :biggrin:


You could blast him in a 6 point season too:wink:, he's a no brainer:razz:

tomahawk
02-21-2008, 11:03 PM
He scores a lot of steaks, roasts and burger from me. Don't have a clue on inches.

browningboy
02-21-2008, 11:04 PM
You could blast him in a 6 point season too:wink:, he's a no brainer:razz:

Really, the first looks like a 5 point, but tough to tell as the pic isn't too clear and the second would be a 6 point.

tomahawk
02-21-2008, 11:06 PM
Really, looks like a 5 point, but tough to tell as the pic isn't too clear.
Clearly a 6 as the 4th point is all you need to find and count the points behind it, so the right antler is a 6.

Brambles
02-21-2008, 11:07 PM
Really, looks like a 5 point, but tough to tell as the pic isn't too clear.


Keep lookin if you think either bull is a 5 point, its a video so if you click on it you can watch it.

No wonder no one can find a 6 pointer, they don't know how to tell:shock::razz:

BlacktailStalker
02-21-2008, 11:07 PM
I'd say 305 tops if he wasnt broken off.
His swords arent very long and his whale tale is just average.
I look for guards out to the nose and then a curve up.
Thirds should be at least 12, more like 14" and swords should go almost 18-22".
A 320 plus bull should have 8-10" whale tails unless he has an exceptional pair of tines elsewhere.
A good 320 bull will also have a spread almost 2.5 times the width of his body too.
He does have pretty good main beam length.
That being said, I'd shoot him :)
I bet in two years he'll be a whopper if he isnt on the downhill side of life and either way a treat to watch.
I assume you'll look for his sheds when they fall?

Brambles
02-21-2008, 11:09 PM
I'd say 305 tops if he wasnt broken off.
His swords arent very long and his whale tale is just average.
I look for guards out to the nose and then a curve up.
Thirds should be at least 12, more like 14" and swords should go almost 2 feet.
A 300 plus bull should have 8-10" whale tails unless he has an exceptional pair of tines elsewhere.
A good 320 bull will have a spread almost 2.5 times the width of his body too.
I bet in two years he'll be a whopper if he isnt on the downhill side of life and either way a treat to watch.
I assume you'll look for his sheds when they fall?


Yup I'll be joining the race to try and find them once they fall. Me an everyone else in the area:lol:

BlacktailStalker
02-21-2008, 11:10 PM
Hope you find them or even one.
Be interesting to find out what he does tape out at.
Good luck !

browningboy
02-21-2008, 11:11 PM
Keep lookin if you think either bull is a 5 point, its a video so if you click on it you can watch it.

No wonder no one can find a 6 pointer, they don't know how to tell:shock::razz:


I rephrased, the second I can see where you get six points but the first was hard to tell.

I just can't count!

Brambles
02-21-2008, 11:16 PM
I'd say 305 tops if he wasnt broken off.
His swords arent very long and his whale tale is just average.
I look for guards out to the nose and then a curve up.
Thirds should be at least 12, more like 14" and swords should go almost 18-22".
A 320 plus bull should have 8-10" whale tails unless he has an exceptional pair of tines elsewhere.
A good 320 bull will also have a spread almost 2.5 times the width of his body too.
He does have pretty good main beam length.
That being said, I'd shoot him :)
I bet in two years he'll be a whopper if he isnt on the downhill side of life and either way a treat to watch.
I assume you'll look for his sheds when they fall?

Are you looking at the picture or the video, the wale tails on the bigger bull are probably 14 - 16" I figure, the left side is longer and the right side looks shorter from the broadside but if you catch him when he's walking down you can see the right side curves in at the back and is longer than if you see it square from the side.

BCrams
02-21-2008, 11:17 PM
I don't know about 330. I am more inclinded to say 285-300

Fisher-Dude
02-21-2008, 11:19 PM
I'd say 305 tops if he wasnt broken off.
His swords arent very long and his whale tale is just average.
I look for guards out to the nose and then a curve up.
Thirds should be at least 12, more like 14" and swords should go almost 18-22".
A 320 plus bull should have 8-10" whale tails unless he has an exceptional pair of tines elsewhere.
A good 320 bull will also have a spread almost 2.5 times the width of his body too.
He does have pretty good main beam length.
That being said, I'd shoot him :)
I bet in two years he'll be a whopper if he isnt on the downhill side of life and either way a treat to watch.
I assume you'll look for his sheds when they fall?


Yep. All of the above. 295 - 305. He has some weight but not great tine length. But, a beauty bull in 99.99% of people's books!

BTW, thinking that all one needs to see is the rear fork to qualify as a 6 point is a quick way to shoot an illegal bull. Single brow tines are more common than one might think. Be sure to count all 6 before pulling the trigger. ;)

mark
02-21-2008, 11:22 PM
Ya you beat me to it FD, Ive seen a few with the classic to 4 points and only 1 eye guard. Ive actually seen any 1 of the typical points missing on different elk.... count to 6 guys.... or maybe 3 soon!

MattB
02-21-2008, 11:22 PM
What do you guys think this bull would go? Kind of a shitty video, but the bull was a fair ways away.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v615/matthew_brown69/?action=view&current=MVI_0826.flv

Fisher-Dude
02-21-2008, 11:29 PM
What do you guys think this bull would go? Kind of a shitty video, but the bull was a fair ways away.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v615/matthew_brown69/?action=view&current=MVI_0826.flv

260 - 270 from what I can see in the video.

Brambles
02-21-2008, 11:31 PM
hhhhmmmm I guess I suck at scoring elk.........

MattB
02-21-2008, 11:38 PM
I saw a monster bull in Princeton this last summer. Surprised the heck out of me because i didnt think elk got too big there. The mainbeams stretched way back past the front shoulders and every tine was LONG! By far the biggest bull i have seen.

porcupine
02-21-2008, 11:48 PM
I'll guess around 270 - 280
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hunter1947
02-22-2008, 05:21 AM
He looks like he would be in the low 300 score. I would say 305.http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif.

Kechika
02-22-2008, 12:57 PM
280 Maximum

tufferthandug
02-22-2008, 01:32 PM
Here's my best elk picture from last year. He's just what I'm looking for! BUT... Although he's got nice character on both sides, I'm just not sure if he would go very far past 330?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/tufferthandug/Blackwater07.jpg

6 K
02-22-2008, 01:39 PM
Here's my best elk picture from last year. He's just what I'm looking for! BUT... Although he's got nice character on both sides, I'm just not sure if he would go very far past 330?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/tufferthandug/Blackwater07.jpg
YOU DIDN'T SHOOT THIS?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!:eek: Man I'd give my left nut to take a elk like him :grin: You must have a lot of bulls in your neck of the woods hu. Wow good luck in the future finding the one you want, be sure to post some picks of him when you do so I can dream and drool:biggrin:
Brambels That one in your pics scores "Take him, Take him NOW!"

tufferthandug
02-22-2008, 01:45 PM
I would have shot that sucker in a second! Wrong side of the Blackwater. These guy's will die of old age unless they brought in some type of season, (ie. 6 point, 3point, LEH, something that will make people happy). Bulls like these are becoming a common sight in Region 5, yet I wouldn't guarantee a good enough population for any type of season.

Fisher-Dude
02-22-2008, 02:00 PM
Here's my best elk picture from last year. He's just what I'm looking for! BUT... Although he's got nice character on both sides, I'm just not sure if he would go very far past 330?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/tufferthandug/Blackwater07.jpg

That bull would go 345 - 350 or more. Easy. He has incredible tine length! Look at his G3, it has to be 18 inches, and his eye guards would be 14 - 16 for sure. He would get an extra 8+8 inches from that kicker if it had a match on the other side, as you can score up to a G7...it looks to be off the "normal" side of the main beam, so it could be considered the G5. :biggrin:

Savage Man
02-22-2008, 04:54 PM
I agree with the guy's that said the first bull is in the 270 to 280 range and yes he is a 6 point for sure.

Bowzone_Mikey
02-22-2008, 05:30 PM
I would be extremely surprised if thats a 300 inch bull

kootenayelkslayer
02-22-2008, 07:01 PM
I'd give him 305 net if the tine wasn't broken off. Certainly shoot-a-bull.

huntinnut
02-23-2008, 09:08 AM
The first bull is easily over 300 gross. He's got long main beams and good looking 5ths. His 6th seems to be at least 14 inches long on the broken side. His thirds look average. I'd say 320's gross.

Brambles
02-23-2008, 09:52 AM
The first bull is easily over 300 gross. He's got long main beams and good looking 5ths. His 6th seems to be at least 14 inches long on the broken side. His thirds look average. I'd say 320's gross.


Have I mentioned how much I like you:biggrin:

BCrams
02-23-2008, 09:57 AM
Have I mentioned how much I like you:biggrin:

You guys can hunt together and experience ground shrinkage when you shoot that W. Kootenay bull.......

Wait a second here ........ you'll probably never draw that tag in your life time!!:mrgreen: Couldn't resist!

Brambles
02-23-2008, 10:11 AM
You guys can hunt together and experience ground shrinkage when you shoot that W. Kootenay bull.......

Wait a second here ........ you'll probably never draw that tag in your life time!!:mrgreen: Couldn't resist!

I'll find out how big he is when I find his sheds, hopefully anyways, stilll a long time before they drop and he might have moved on by then.

Don't need a LEH, he's in one of the many West Kootenay open season areas:lol: Only a couple hour drive to get to him

BCrams
02-23-2008, 10:14 AM
Oh hey up towards Trout Lake / Fish River (Incomappleaux River)??

A couple hour drive eh? Thats a tough one to go for an evening hunt.

Hope you find the sheds!

Brambles
02-23-2008, 10:19 AM
Oh hey up towards Trout Lake / Fish River (Incompleaux River)??

A couple hour drive eh? Thats a tough one to go for an evening hunt.

Hope you find the sheds!


Big country up there 4-30, 4-29, 4-28, 4-27, 4-19 all 2 hours away;)

oh yeah, family cabins up there too, so everything is sooo much closer when you sleep somwhere warm up there and only have to travel a fraction of the time

BCrams
02-23-2008, 10:23 AM
Pretty sweet deal with the cabins for hunting!! I know a couple mountains in those zones which hold monster muley bucks ;)

Brambles
02-23-2008, 10:24 AM
Pretty sweet deal with the cabins for hunting!! I know a couple mountains in those zones which hold monster muley bucks ;)


We should talk:idea:

BCrams
02-23-2008, 11:15 AM
We should talk:idea:

I'll never forget the one day while having lunch up in the alpine when working with the spotting scope on a couple goats feeding when this massive typical walked into view right below the goats .... I went from goat watching to scouring the mtn for other bucks and found a couple others bedded down ....

I havn't been back since but I don't see why they wouldn't still keep using that mountain. Those deer likely are long dead, but perhaps they passed on their genetics.

Brambles
02-23-2008, 11:29 AM
Thats why I'm looking forward to getting my goat tag this year, countless times I hear of guys seeing good bucks while goat hunting.

I know where there is a 190" typical that hangs out with a few other 160 - 170 class bucks, but my friend has dibs on him so I can't bring myself to hunt them. He found them when hunting goats, and I stumbled onto the spot one day just bombing around and chatted with him afterwards and he spilled the beans.

Seems like a west kootenay motto, find goats, find mulies

rocksteady
02-23-2008, 12:15 PM
I think he would score about 390....lbs that is...Cause you can't eat horns, they are just a bonus...

BCrams
02-23-2008, 01:03 PM
I think he would score about 390....lbs that is...Cause you can't eat horns, they are just a bonus...

I agree!! I'll bet a fat 3 pt would be delicious compared to a rutted up 6 pt!!

rocksteady
02-23-2008, 01:30 PM
fat 3 pt would be delicious compared to a rutted up 6 pt!!


Give it a rest..:-P

hunter1947
02-24-2008, 05:34 AM
The third one up on this elk in your pic of the second elk you posted has a good length on it ,usually that is the weak point on a set of elk antlers ,this bull looks like a 7x? buy looking at the one side and if the other is about the same size ,I would say this bull would be carrying around a 350 class bull.

diggerpax
02-24-2008, 09:47 AM
I'd bet the first bull at around 260-280. The big bull in the timber is a dandy though- so hard to get a good estimate on a glimpse, but I think I'd throw a 330 and maybe pushing up to 350 depending on deductions a tine length you can't judge in the pic. He's a little weak up top, but 1-3 are great- he'll pull in a lot with those three tines alone if he's symmetric to make up for his small top end. What a great pic!!