What would you say.........

[trailhunter]

What would you say a fully mature HAMMER muley weigh in his prime (live weight) in BC. Ive heard that muleys in Alb. and sask. are even bigger.

[Deerwhacker]

450lbs is what i would guess the biggest hey can get besides freek anomolies

[kennyj]

I know of a few mulies that weighed in at 350 to 390 field dressed from the Princeton area.that would put them well over 400 lb on the hoof.
Ken.

[hunter1947]

I hammered a mule deer in the headly area 25 years ago and it went 335 pounds dressed out.

[oddsix]

my buddy jake samatzky took a 4 point from clinton. dressed out 305 i think

[thatskindafunny]

Know 2 mulies from the Princeton area that field dressed 417 & 425.

[blomgren]

I believe the world record is close to 600lbs

[Untouchable]

My biggest was 162 on the hook. That was a mature Princeton muley. I saw one up near Prince George that was a horse though. Guess he would go at least 300 lbs. at the butcher.

[scuba]

i've had more than one muley go 240 lbs on the hook (no head or hide)

[115 or bust]

Took a whitetail in fort st john that was a hair over 330lbs.

[johnk]

I got y'all beat. On Sept.18th I got a huge 4 point that was 94 lbs.at the butcher. It 's like golf, right? The lower the score the better, right?

[Red Foreman]

No big ones for me yet,160 lbs is my best.I've seen couple dress out over 300 shot by my buddies.

[Lil Buck]

4 Point mulie from princeton ,shot left shoulder no head on the hook at butcher 282.....not bad little buck...

lb:)

[sparkes3]

4 point from princeton i got back 192lbs of meat from the butcher

[toddpotiphar]

4 point from princeton i got back 192lbs of meat from the butcher

never trust the "meat" you get back from the butcher!

[CanuckShooter]

4 point from princeton i got back 192lbs of meat from the butcher

Lets see...how does this work....you pay the butcher by the pound? In comes a buck deer...add in 100lbs of horse meat...out goes some 300lb deer !!!

I have to call BS on this one....300 & 400 pound dressed deer my arse !! :shock:

[Caveman]

The last few immature moose I've had cut were only 325-350 on the hook. Where are you people finding these bucks.

[sfire436]

apparently sasak has the BIGGEST mulies anywhere, however they are LEH for resident only.

[curt]

the genitics in the princeton area are incredible i know of a few guys with a deer or two over 300 from there.

[talver]

The last few immature moose I've had cut were only 325-350 on the hook. Where are you people finding these bucks.
I second this seen some hogs out in the area we hunt but none would have been bigger than 220lbs on the hook. Ive hunted princeton never seen a buck that would have been 300lbs plus. Just my opinion

[trailhunter]

any pics of these monsters? I shot a muley last year and it was 193lbs on the hook...........he was a MONSTER when he was alive standing broad side at 40yards..........i thought i was 400 plus but when all you see are does for 3 days and then you see a buck.....wow what a difference

[hunter1947]

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/100_1356.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=7726&size=big&cat=500) This mulie i took 32 years ago in the Princeton area ,it weighed 335 on the hook field dressed.

[hunter1947]

Sorry i couldn't get a clear pic of me and this deer ,but back then that's all i had.:frown:. As i can recall i was 205 pounds back then.

[oldtimer]

I took a big one back in the Silver Hills north of Lumby back in the early 70's that weighed 294 pounds hanging in the cooler, head, hide and hooves off. Mike

[youngbuck]

Mine is bigger than yours!!!:biggrin:
What are we talking about again?.....Deer?
Oops...no bigger than 215, dressed

[Husky7mm]

This mulie i took 32 years ago in the Princeton area ,it weighed 335 on the hook field dressed.
:eek:That buck is a giant, Its like looking at a 7.5ft person. what do you guess live wieght? you should scan that picture and then post it. How big is the rack BTW?

[brianscott]

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=6753&cat=500&ppuser=5650


My mulie from this year was the biggest bodied deer I have ever handled.
Hanging with no head, hide or lower legs we figure he was 225.

Scored 164 net

[hunter1947]

:eek:That buck is a giant, Its like looking at a 7.5ft person. what do you guess live wieght? you should scan that picture and then post it. How big is the rack BTW?
The deer was reverting back ,i did get the antlers scored they wear 168 7/8 after deductions.

[Will]

I've taken a couple big bodied ones......both easily went over 200 dressed out. The average I'd guess have been about 130 Lbs of meat though.......

450 lbs would be a Big buck indeed:eek:

[oddsix]

where around the princeton area? whipsaw creek?

[hunter1947]

where around the princeton area? whipsaw creek?
Me and some of my old time friends have taken some real nice deer over the years south of Hedley ,one of my friends got one that was close to the 200 mark and i took one that made the BC book it scored 177 5/8 net ,there are some real monsters back in that area ,i don't hunt mule deer any more ,but if one appears when i am elk hunting that is a keeper i will take it.

[trailhunter]

this was mine from this year...........i really couldnt amagine them getting much bigger because he was a hoghttp://www3.telus.net/public/cedarboy/07%20mainland%20hunt%20032.jpg

[ruttinbuck]

I have put a few mulies on the ground.I have shot 3 that I call 300 pounders.You know the kind that are hard to roll around on a hillside.The biggest one was standing amongst a group of other deer when first spotted.His backline was alot higher than every other deer within the herd.When loading him in the truck the 5/16 strandboard used to load broke in half.He really added to the group sausage pot that year.RB

[legal-hunter]

my biggest is this years makes all my other ones look small. he weighed 214pounds cut up and in the freezer. It was a little bit hard pulling off the mountain. what do you generally do double the weight or add half the weight again to get live weight?

[hunter1947]

Nice buck you got there Trailhunter what did he field dressed out at ????.

[Dannybuoy]

my biggest is this years makes all my other ones look small. he weighed 214pounds cut up and in the freezer. It was a little bit hard pulling off the mountain. what do you generally do double the weight or add half the weight again to get live weight?
I believe a deer dresses out to approx 58%

[Kechika]

300 pounds plus.Not bad for a runt
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/MMayan/P1010110.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/MMayan/P1010118.jpg

[Fisher-Dude]

I've killed over 40 of them. Heaviest on the hook after cleaning, trimming, skinning, etc was 172 lbs, and it was a big bodied deer (not the biggest rack though) that I had to cut in half just to load on the quad :smile:. I don't know where you guys find these 350 lbers! :shock:



http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e70/Fisher-Dude/Merritt.jpg

I think the comments about the "by the pound" butchers may have something to do with these excessive claimed weights! ;)

[Big7]

Put a imm moose beside the largest mule deer around and the moose will still dwarf the deer (any of the moose/deer I've seen in the interior/caribou anyway)

I've shot a few imm moose and they have all been in the 325 to 400lb range. Unless I saw it with my own eyes, I would call B.S on any mule deer DRESSING in the 300 to 350lb range.... standing weight O.K but not dressed.

Even the few pictures of these "300lb" deer are still considerably smaller than a imm moose. Just my opinion!

[Kechika]

The above buck was 160 hanging.

[Fisher-Dude]

Put a imm moose beside the largest mule deer around and the moose will still dwarf the deer (any of the moose/deer I've seen in the interior/caribou anyway)

I've shot a few imm moose and they have all been in the 325 to 400lb range. Unless I saw it with my own eyes, I would call B.S on any mule deer DRESSING in the 300 to 350lb range.... standing weight O.K but not dressed.

Even the few pictures of these "300lb" deer are still considerably smaller than a imm moose. Just my opinion!

Agreed. I've seen immies at 325 - 360, and raghorn 5 pt elk at 375 on the hook. My 323" elk was 430 lbs to the butcher, and he could have swallowed a muley buck whole! :wink:

[Jelvis]

The largest of the male deer of The Rocky Mountain Mule Deer variety would be 310 lbs. dressed and estimated live weight could be a possible 475 lbs. Only two percent of deer are over 250 lbs and 1 percent over 300 lbs according to studies, that percentage shows it's low for over 250 lbs. Does average way lighter 150 lbs this info according to The Deer of North America. Jelly Bean.

[Leaseman]

In region 8 where I hunt, every year we see at least 2-4 bucks well over 325 pounds live.... the 3 point my son got in November was 131 pounds, legless, headless and hideless at the butcher.... I would call him small for a lot of the bucks we see in this area....we also see lots of does that push the 200+ mark, in fact, in the same cut block we got his buck, the day before we saw a buck that went at least 100-150 pounds more and he had 2 does that I swear were as big if not bigger that the buck we got....

Lots of small/nornal size deer around, but there is a lot of bruisers showing up....we even see it in our moose area....a large bull had a rack of 36-40 inches and might go 8-900 pounds live weight, 15+ plus years ago.... we now see or hear of bulls 48-58 inches and pushing 1100+ pounds....my Dad started hunting this area in '64 and started taking me in'70.... new feed due to fires, logging etc. has opened up the country for critters to grow!!!

my $0.02 worth......;)

[Big7]

Maybe I'm confused or others are...not sure. My definition of "dressed" is head off, hide off, gutted and legs bucked at the knee's. That being said, if people still claim that they have shot bucks that "dress" over 300lbs, I'd call B.S (not having seen it for myself.) Standing weight? I'm sure there are bucks out there that are in the 350lb range (which would put them in the 225 - 250 range, maybe even 275 and I would consider that HUGE but 300+ come on!

[trailhunter]

I think Field Dressed is what everyone is saying.........guts and maybe legs

[Jelvis]

Weight like shoulder height tend to be exaggerated, a Rocky Mountain muledeer stands 39 inches at the shoulder. about belt high on a person. Hunters are fisherman at heart when it comes to size of their deer. Few people know how to estimate weight of animals simply by looking at it. Most people over estimate by 25 per cent. The longer you drag it and lift it it gets heavier by the minute.lol Field dressed split from throat to pelvis everything out feet on and blood drained. You must have proper scales to get the proper weight. Multiply field dressed weight by 1.275 to get live weight. Deers blood and entrails account for a 5th of it's total weight. heart liver lungs 10 lbs skin 12 lbs feet six to 8 lbs bones 20 lbs, head 8 lbs. Estimate about 50 per cent deboned meat of the total deers weight when field dressed. Leonard Lee Rue 111

[bckev]

My muley dressed out at 161 this year. My biggest deer, but he was the size of one of the quarters of my moose. My biggest whitail dressed out at 136 by comparison.

[Fisher-Dude]

Whities tend to be a lot smaller in body size. My biggest is a 162" buck - to the butcher, 145 lbs. Average basket 4 point whities tend to be from 95 - 110 lbs to the butcher, while 3 and 4 year olds tend to go 115 - 125 lbs. A good mature (130" - 140" class) buck gets you 125 - 140 lbs.

Dakota whities will be heavier on average (Peace region bucks).

[Farmer]

My largest mulie weighed 202 lbs at the butcher. No head hide, guts, or legs. We packed it out in 2 pieces. The hinds were 92 lbs and the fronts 110lbs. He was a very fat deer but only a 3 point. I have had 2 4x5 elk - one at 278 dressed and one at 418 dressed. The lighter one was young and the heavier one seemed to be regressing in antlers. I am very skeptical of mulies field dressing over 300 lbs but I would love to see one in hunting season.
Gord

[Untouchable]

This guy went 162 on the hook. Thats head, legs, hide, obviously guts out/off.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x105/themanfromsummerscreek/IMGP1222.jpg

[Jelvis]

Average weights of Columbian Blacktails on Vancouver Island
Age Class Male Female
1 and half 78 lbs 75 lbs
2 and half 93 lbs 84 lbs
3 and half 111 86
4 and half 135 92
5 and half 161 99

[.308win]

This was my first deer ever shot and biggest, no head, hide or legs, He was 170lbs on the hook:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p101/newfieguy1/firstdeer.jpg

Perry

[horshur]

I have only had one buck wieghed ever and he was one of the larger bucks for sure. Hanging skinned, head off and legs bucked at joints he was 195 lbs.

[Jelvis]

How many guys have taken their deer into a butcher and when they come back to get it, they can't believe that huge deer they dragged out is in that little basket, hey that can't be. When it's all cut up it looks smaller.

[hunter1947]

You are lucky to get 40% of your animal back when you get it back from the butcher.

[.308win]

You are lucky to get 40% of your animal back when you get it back from the butcher.

X2 hunter, If you're not in the habit of taking the rib cage, you lose between 1/4 or a 1/3 of your weight right there, minus the bones......thats a lot of weight gone!

Perry

[Jelvis]

You have to weigh on a proper scale to get the correct weight, if a person is guessing then not accurate. Also how much meat is lost from the bullet expanding. Bone in or bone out, that's the question too? It's all fun anyway when hunters talk how big the deer was. By the time you lift it in the back of the truck it gained at least fifty lbs.

[Untouchable]

Do you have those same numbers for rocky mountain mule deer Jelvis? Reading back through the thread it seems like there are a lot of 160 lbs. class bucks taken. Just wondering what age class my buck was?If the 58% calculation was correct my deer would have weighed 280 lbs. on the hoof which is believable. How old do you think he was? I was thinking maybe 4.5 years...???

[Jelvis]

Average Weights of Some Mule Deer
AGE CLASS MALE FEMALE
6 months 75 lbs 70 lbs
1 and half 135 113
2 and half 173 122
3 and half 201 128
4 and half 213 128
As you know genetics and the type of food available can vary weights in deer such as rich bottom valley soil on farm lands or poor rocky soil on hill sides with poor moisture in the soil etc.

[hunter1947]

X2 hunter, If you're not in the habit of taking the rib cage, you lose between 1/4 or a 1/3 of your weight right there, minus the bones......thats a lot of weight gone!

Perry
To start off with ,you loose 40% from all bone on an animal and then there is waist that a butcher doesent bother trimming off that might be 10%. that leaves you with 50% take home meat ,thats if it is all boned out. When you take a moose that is 600 pounds hanging in the cooler ready to butcher ,then go pick up your meat ,you think to yourself is this all i get back ,you think you have been shafted out of a pill of meat. You have to sit down and figure out what the weight of the meat you got back and compare it to the waist from the animal ,i have and it almost works out perfect at the end.

[Jelvis]

Whether or not a hunter is after a trophy, he or she is likely to be interested in how handsome a pair of antlers a buck has. Next, the hunter is most interested in how big it is. The Rocky Mountain Mule Deer is the largest of it's species. Jel

[KevinB]

My biggest bodied buck was about 170 lbs carcass only (no skin, head, legs, guts, etc) after hanging for 10 days - might have been a few pounds more before hanging. Not sure what he would have been live weight, but he was a bit of a brute. My skinny butt couldn't drag him the 200 metres downhill to the truck, I had to cut him in half just to drag him. He was pretty old, teeth very worn down and regressed antlers.

Here's an article with everything you'd ever want to know, and more:
http://ces.uwyo.edu/PUBS/B589R.pdf

[BigfishCanada]

Heres the link to my posting, think it was in 2005. I hunted the Coq Hwy allot and the body of the bucks in that area are by far bigger than Ive seen anywhere else, My yammy 400 couldnt lift it up the tree, so the polaris 800 was used with two guys sitting on the back to prevent the back from lifting

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=3389

[Caveman]

Here's a link to an interesting article on live weights and how to calculate based on dressed weights
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/mammals/bgame/index.htm

[Jelvis]

Dragging a deer out from the bush whether it's a blacktail, whitetail or a mule deer is hard when your by your self but even harder when theres no snow. I can pull good but when it's dry ground it's cut it up and pack or get a buddy or two to help pull. If there is snow what a difference, even then I got one buck high on a ridge in snow, a nice four point muley with a muscular body, even in the snow I could hardly move it around to gut him out. I know there are big heavy bucks here in nor river area but with no scale I could only guess. Thats why I like having other hunting partners with me when I hunt. Jelly Bean