Firearms and Wildfires

[Silvercore]

I sat down with senior wildfire officer of the costal fire center Alan Berry and discussed human caused fires from firearms. After last years fires, they are taking a very proactive approach to sharing preventative information and will be touring gun clubs and organizations to help spread the word.

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Silvercore Podcast 130


https://youtu.be/5mpNVkyilm4

[zero64]

It's 55 mins long -- is there a summary?

[Redthies]

It's 55 mins long -- is there a summary?

Something like “don’t shoot Tannerite in a grassy meadow in August”?


:lol:

[mike31154]

...make sure your ATV and/or Motorbike have a spark arrestor....

[Livewire322]

It's 55 mins long -- is there a summary?
If you listen to it at 2x playback speed, it’s half that

[Sausage]

its is very sparse on actual information with context . The study partially cited is a controlled study on impact ignition on a steel plate into directed into dry moss . https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/treesearch/43918#:~:text=We%20found%20that%20bullets%20could, one%20ignition%20in%20these%20tests. The speaker referenced 11 or 12 in bc but gave no citations or case information . in the US with far more shooters and far more access to ammunitioin to shoot civilians cause less than 1/10 of a percent of human caused fires . Even with the claim 11or 12 direct or indirectly firearm caused fires fires in BC that is less than 2/10ths of a percent for the human caused 609 fires attributed to human causes in BC for 2023.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037971122200100X

[TheObserver]

I mean lol let us not pussyfoot and shy away from what they are implying and where this will go, one more excuse the big goal here no guns and zero countryside use. Period.

Lol fvck them

[Pigfarmer]

By the title I assumed it was “don’t take your guns if you evacuate from fire”

[Silvercore]

I mean lol let us not pussyfoot and shy away from what they are implying and where this will go, one more excuse the big goal here no guns and zero countryside use. Period.

Lol fvck them

I asked them this question point blank and was assured it wasn't the case. There are others who advised I not have this discussion on the Silvercore Podcast as they feared it would be used as fuel to introduce more restrictions. I have a different take and feel that, regardless of the governments intention, sticking our heads in the sand is not the best approach. If future restrictions on firearms, types of ammunition or types of targets (steel, binary exploding etc..) are to result from any public safety and / or fire reduction practices, they should be analyzed and weighed for their merit.

If target shooting in the woods does present a fire risk worthy of introducing restrictions, the firearms community should have the opportunity to assess those risks, educate the community and amend their target shooting practices to prevent issues. If target shooting in the woods results in a statistically insignificant or improbable risk of fires, again the community should be provided the opportunity to assess those facts and present them to any policy maker. This is a situation where I only saw benefits to the shooting community and public in general by having information out early so the conversation could be had properly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5V7aE7dcJ4

[Pigfarmer]

Anyone else heard about a primer/powder ban? Just hearsay on my end….

[Bustercluck]

I don’t have time to watch the whole YouTube episode. Maybe I can figure how to listen to a podcast on my way to work, but I have t done That before.

So… do t shoot steel plates in the woods if there’s high potential for forest fire? If the sign says “low risk” than we should be good? Is there any indication of hanging a target higher in the trees and further from the ground? What about bullets hitting trees? What are the bullet points?Im getting setup to hang some plates right now so this would be helpful

[Downwindtracker2]

Laying dry grass and shooting the 338WM, might not be the best thing to do. That N560 powder gives off a pretty good sized ball.

I've had to fight a fire in campsite from someone being slow to light his little propane BBQ.

Let's pray for rain.

[Woodchuck Dan]

In the West Kootenays the range I go to was kept open for the duration of the fire season. (There may have been some small closures, I can't remember now.)

The rule of thumb they had was to hang out for half an hour after your last shot to make sure you didn't unintentionally start any fires. Seems reasonable to me and is similar protocol to how welders work surrounded by sawdust in mills. (That's gotta be higher risk)

[browningboy]

Wildfires…started by the liberal government, just research, Trudeau says they will stop once gas is done… out of his mouth

[rideonjon]

https://industrialmetalservice.com/metal-university/what-metals-dont-make-a-spark/

So, what metals don’t spark? The common list given is nonferrous metals like copper – this is one of copper’s many unique uses in industry (https://industrialmetalservice.com/copper-recycling/how-copper-is-used-in-industry/) – aluminum, silver, and lead, along with alloys of copper like brass, bronze, and cupronickel alloys (https://industrialmetalservice.com/resources/how-unique-cupronickel-properties-resist-marine-corrosion-and-fowling/) like Monel. This list of spark-resistant metals includes metals that don’t spark due to their thermal conductivity, shedding energy inputs quickly and keeping them below the threshold for combustion like copper, aluminum, and silver.