Bugle Tubes

[TheObserver]

What you guys use for bugle tubes?

Last year was my first year using diaphragms and a tube, the year before was power bugle didn't know how to use diaphragms.

I use phelps diaphragms, but my tube is a rocky mountain hunting call one, called "the little big mouth", its small and compact (which I really like) its aluminum and I called in a mature Bull with it, but other than that in two weeks of hunting I didn't get one answer and I feel like there are better ones out there that project sound far better, I know phelps makes them and rocky mountain hunting calls has one called iirc correctly bully extreme or something.

What makes the best sound you find and projects and is loud? Open to any material and size just want some better sound/projection

[HarryToolips]

My bugle tube, which at times I also use to broadcast cow elk calls further is Rocky Moutain... I've mostly just used Primos diaphragms, but am very interested in purchasing a Phelps after what I've heard from you.. what type of Phelps call you using?

[TheObserver]

My bugle tube, which at times I also use to broadcast cow elk calls further is Rocky Moutain... I've mostly just used Primos diaphragms, but am very interested in purchasing a Phelps after what I've heard from you.. what type of Phelps call you using?

I use the "Pink Signature" and the "Green Amp" there so easy to use for me, haven't practiced since October just picked em up again last week and its like I never put em down (mind you I practiced every day last year starting in Jan). None others have been this easy to use, seen a video from Elk101 guy and he had a fall out with rocky mountain hunting call so he was tryin a bunch of other ones and one he liked a lot was pink signature its easy to make any sound on it for me give it a try you probably wont be dissapointed.

I also want to try wapiti rivers diaphragms, but for now those 2 phelps work awesome for me.

Which model is your rocky mountain tube and you like it it loud?

[ACE]

​Abe & Son . . . Dominator bugle. Fully adjustable diaphragm for cow calls, chirps, and bugles. American made in Oregon.

[HarryToolips]

I use the "Pink Signature" and the "Green Amp" there so easy to use for me, haven't practiced since October just picked em up again last week and its like I never put em down (mind you I practiced every day last year starting in Jan). None others have been this easy to use, seen a video from Elk101 guy and he had a fall out with rocky mountain hunting call so he was tryin a bunch of other ones and one he liked a lot was pink signature its easy to make any sound on it for me give it a try you probably wont be dissapointed.

I also want to try wapiti rivers diaphragms, but for now those 2 phelps work awesome for me.

Which model is your rocky mountain tube and you like it it loud?

Awesome good to know, thanks... I don't know the model, doesn't say on the tube.. Definitely like it loud..

[todbartell]

Last fall I used the new Phelps Unleashed v2, I like it

[savage10]

I use tube and diaphragms from Wapiti River Outdoors. Small business Canadian brand and amazing quality calls.

[Bullreaper]

I’ve been using Rocky Mountain hunting calls “bully bull” bugle tube for years, no complaints. There diaphragms on the other hand, junk. They Used to be good, since Rockie sold the company to DDA Holdings, they’ve gone to crap. No consistency whatsoever. Can buy 10 of the same diaphragm and only get 1 good one. Been using Phelps the last couple years, they work good for me.

[J_T]

Over the years I've used most types of calls. For the past 5 years I've used Phelps. Some of their hand held cow calls are great too. For reeds, the Amp series, the Maverick and my new favorite the purple Lucky Charms.

When all hunters use Phelps, I'll go to a different call. Elk are smart.....

[wallz]

I did something different.

Last year was my first time elk hunting. So naturally I started early to prep for it, and started learning with diaphragm calls. Well it turns out my gag reflex was just too crazy with most calls, until I tried the one for youth. I guess I'm not a "big mouth". That made me start trimming the regular calls I already had, and presto, this worked wonders. Practice, practice, practice, more like learn, learn. The wife and kids got tired of hearing me even though I was mostly in the basement, and even when driving on any length of trips.

Then I started to try and figure out what I was going to use for a tube. No way I was paying that stupid money for a plastic tube. Bunch of youtube videos later, I settled on a "dollar store" gadget. Yep, small plastic bat, that unscrews in the middle, and held a few plastic balls inside it. Cut out the opening, and had an old camo t-shirt that I ended up gluing on it. It was bright orange and green, so this toned it down, and seemed to tone down the resonance a bit. Old hockey skate finished off the build as a shoulder carry.

How do I know if it worked. Well, my first morning out, first time elk hunting, I was having bugles all around me, and was playing them. Man was that an experience. No I didn't end up calling any out that first morning, but I was "hooked". As the week progressed I was able to call out a large 5x5. Yep only 5x5 in a six zone. He came out of the timber, 250 yards and circled around 180 yards out. Yep I checked about 4 million times for that elusive 6th point. He ended up going back into the timber. This was about 10:00 am already, bull sun out, but some wind. I thought what the heck and started to challenge bugle him to see what he would do. It turns out, he had no idea where I was, and I ended up getting some great phone footage of him coming past me within 25 yards. He only somewhat saw me as he came out onto the road I was near, about 40 yards past me and looked back towards my direction as he heard voices coming from the next clearing near us. I know he wasn't spooked, as he took another 10 min or so to meander back the way he came into the bush. Talk about a "jacked up" experience of a lifetime for me.

Two days later I called out a few cows with 2 smaller spikers. So I know it works, just a matter of learning more of the elk "speak" and when to use what call sequence. Yea, I was starting to learn a bit of that just before the season started.

So all that to say, yes a $2 home made tube does work. It is about 20" long, 5" wide on the big end, well you know how a bat looks like.

Something like this, but the dollar store $$.

https://well.ca/products/franklin-sports-mlb-24-inch-jumbo_297136.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJN5AHP4jJhZXED2ygXqP TN-7daR5ET3j58Vxez4rZACp_yCrl0ZwdRoCgHkQAvD_BwE

[HarryToolips]

I did something different.

Last year was my first time elk hunting. So naturally I started early to prep for it, and started learning with diaphragm calls. Well it turns out my gag reflex was just too crazy with most calls, until I tried the one for youth. I guess I'm not a "big mouth". That made me start trimming the regular calls I already had, and presto, this worked wonders. Practice, practice, practice, more like learn, learn. The wife and kids got tired of hearing me even though I was mostly in the basement, and even when driving on any length of trips.

Then I started to try and figure out what I was going to use for a tube. No way I was paying that stupid money for a plastic tube. Bunch of youtube videos later, I settled on a "dollar store" gadget. Yep, small plastic bat, that unscrews in the middle, and held a few plastic balls inside it. Cut out the opening, and had an old camo t-shirt that I ended up gluing on it. It was bright orange and green, so this toned it down, and seemed to tone down the resonance a bit. Old hockey skate finished off the build as a shoulder carry.

How do I know if it worked. Well, my first morning out, first time elk hunting, I was having bugles all around me, and was playing them. Man was that an experience. No I didn't end up calling any out that first morning, but I was "hooked". As the week progressed I was able to call out a large 5x5. Yep only 5x5 in a six zone. He came out of the timber, 250 yards and circled around 180 yards out. Yep I checked about 4 million times for that elusive 6th point. He ended up going back into the timber. This was about 10:00 am already, bull sun out, but some wind. I thought what the heck and started to challenge bugle him to see what he would do. It turns out, he had no idea where I was, and I ended up getting some great phone footage of him coming past me within 25 yards. He only somewhat saw me as he came out onto the road I was near, about 40 yards past me and looked back towards my direction as he heard voices coming from the next clearing near us. I know he wasn't spooked, as he took another 10 min or so to meander back the way he came into the bush. Talk about a "jacked up" experience of a lifetime for me.

Two days later I called out a few cows with 2 smaller spikers. So I know it works, just a matter of learning more of the elk "speak" and when to use what call sequence. Yea, I was starting to learn a bit of that just before the season started.

So all that to say, yes a $2 home made tube does work. It is about 20" long, 5" wide on the big end, well you know how a bat looks like.

Something like this, but the dollar store $$.

https://well.ca/products/franklin-sports-mlb-24-inch-jumbo_297136.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJN5AHP4jJhZXED2ygXqP TN-7daR5ET3j58Vxez4rZACp_yCrl0ZwdRoCgHkQAvD_BwE

Lol that's awesome, for practice during the odd lunch break at work I use a plastic bottle with bottom cut out, so I can relate, they can indeed work..

[Arctic Lake]

LOL ! That’s awesome Wallz ! I fell for spenindin some bucks on commercial ones but did not get a chance to use them in 2023 . The hunt ended early after getting our moose in 3 days .
Arctic Lake
I did something different.

Last year was my first time elk hunting. So naturally I started early to prep for it, and started learning with diaphragm calls. Well it turns out my gag reflex was just too crazy with most calls, until I tried the one for youth. I guess I'm not a "big mouth". That made me start trimming the regular calls I already had, and presto, this worked wonders. Practice, practice, practice, more like learn, learn. The wife and kids got tired of hearing me even though I was mostly in the basement, and even when driving on any length of trips.

Then I started to try and figure out what I was going to use for a tube. No way I was paying that stupid money for a plastic tube. Bunch of youtube videos later, I settled on a "dollar store" gadget. Yep, small plastic bat, that unscrews in the middle, and held a few plastic balls inside it. Cut out the opening, and had an old camo t-shirt that I ended up gluing on it. It was bright orange and green, so this toned it down, and seemed to tone down the resonance a bit. Old hockey skate finished off the build as a shoulder carry.

How do I know if it worked. Well, my first morning out, first time elk hunting, I was having bugles all around me, and was playing them. Man was that an experience. No I didn't end up calling any out that first morning, but I was "hooked". As the week progressed I was able to call out a large 5x5. Yep only 5x5 in a six zone. He came out of the timber, 250 yards and circled around 180 yards out. Yep I checked about 4 million times for that elusive 6th point. He ended up going back into the timber. This was about 10:00 am already, bull sun out, but some wind. I thought what the heck and started to challenge bugle him to see what he would do. It turns out, he had no idea where I was, and I ended up getting some great phone footage of him coming past me within 25 yards. He only somewhat saw me as he came out onto the road I was near, about 40 yards past me and looked back towards my direction as he heard voices coming from the next clearing near us. I know he wasn't spooked, as he took another 10 min or so to meander back the way he came into the bush. Talk about a "jacked up" experience of a lifetime for me.

Two days later I called out a few cows with 2 smaller spikers. So I know it works, just a matter of learning more of the elk "speak" and when to use what call sequence. Yea, I was starting to learn a bit of that just before the season started.

So all that to say, yes a $2 home made tube does work. It is about 20" long, 5" wide on the big end, well you know how a bat looks like.

Something like this, but the dollar store $$.

https://well.ca/products/franklin-sports-mlb-24-inch-jumbo_297136.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAibeuBhAAEiwAiXBoJN5AHP4jJhZXED2ygXqP TN-7daR5ET3j58Vxez4rZACp_yCrl0ZwdRoCgHkQAvD_BwE

[Elkaddict]

For a bunch of years I just carried around a piece of pool vacuum hose about 14" long. Then I got a little fancier and bought a collapsible tube that is about 10" long but stretches out to about 2' or so. Last year I bought a Phelps Pack A Bull bugle. It has the same collapsible tube, but it also has a bite and blow reed attached. The reed gives another option, but I find they don't last long, and mostly I just pull the reed unit and use a diaphragm. It tied to the tube, so it doesn't get lost. The big tubes with the resonating chambers probably produce louder deeper calls but I have enough crap attached to me already. I carry my tube in the cargo pocket of my pants. It deploys fast enough and it's never in the way, banging off brush, or getting hung up on stuff when you're crawling through thick shit.

[Ourea]

Quick story.

I have always been a product guy, always trying to be reinventing the wheel.
Made money doing it.

I bought turkey diaphrams thinking they could work for elk, this was in the late 80's when i was kid.

I took coriigated tubing, cut a 2 litre coke plastic container to accept it. Cut the bottom of the plastic out on the bottom.
Created quite the echo chamber
Rapped it up all in black hockey tape. Made it quite, no friction noise while ninjaing around.

The resonance that came out was incredible.

[TheObserver]

Awesome good to know, thanks... I don't know the model, doesn't say on the tube.. Definitely like it loud..

Meant to ask if the tube is loud lol, I heard there bully bull extreme or somethin or the other was a really loud good tube

[TheObserver]

Last fall I used the new Phelps Unleashed v2, I like it

I'll look into that one for sure, their diaphragms are hands down the best for me

[TheObserver]

For a bunch of years I just carried around a piece of pool vacuum hose about 14" long. Then I got a little fancier and bought a collapsible tube that is about 10" long but stretches out to about 2' or so. Last year I bought a Phelps Pack A Bull bugle. It has the same collapsible tube, but it also has a bite and blow reed attached. The reed gives another option, but I find they don't last long, and mostly I just pull the reed unit and use a diaphragm. It tied to the tube, so it doesn't get lost. The big tubes with the resonating chambers probably produce louder deeper calls but I have enough crap attached to me already. I carry my tube in the cargo pocket of my pants. It deploys fast enough and it's never in the way, banging off brush, or getting hung up on stuff when you're crawling through thick shit.

Didn't even know they had collapsibles thats killer!

[TheObserver]

Quick story.

I have always been a product guy, always trying to be reinventing the wheel.
Made money doing it.

I bought turkey diaphrams thinking they could work for elk, this was in the late 80's when i was kid.

I took coriigated tubing, cut a 2 litre coke plastic container to accept it. Cut the bottom of the plastic out on the bottom.
Created quite the echo chamber
Rapped it up all in black hockey tape. Made it quite, no friction noise while ninjaing around.

The resonance that came out was incredible.

I tried this and it was okay, but how you explained it I think I know where I effed up I think i'll try it again.

Thanks for the replies everyone!

[koothunter]

It's all kinda overhyped. That said I do have a RM grunt tube that works well. I have called in bulls with just whistling. If a bull is gonna come in, it likely won't matter a lot what kinda grunt tube you have. Spend enough time out there among rutting bulls and you'll hear all sorts of bugles. Even the real elk sound terrible sometimes.

[RackStar]

Rocky Mountain tube works good for me, called in many many bulls. various brands of diaphragm calls. Heard some great things about the wapiti river , but the things huge, I already hate packing around my RM tube

[Bugle M In]

Buglin bull tube, the one with the big bellow up front, and the retractable tube attached to it (forget the model).
I use diaphragm, so took off the mouth call, and gutted another tube to add that blue mouthpiece with a metal spring it (forget that calls name also, but from buglin bulls also).
But, I used a Rubber corrugated tube (think it was from Berry, that was made to be compatible for many years.
(basically looks like an old rad hose from the 50’s).
Anyways, still need to take off the plastic tube off the buglin bull big bellow, and attach the old Berry rubber hose to it. (Looks like it will work)
Then I think I have the ideal tube.
Now I have also thought about getting an Abe and son tube, and removing that middle section and adding it into my rig.
Will see if it works.
Still happiest with the Wayne Carlton 2.5 diaphragms with the tone trough on them.
I can do everything with it, used them for years, so why change (I always go back to it after trying dozens of other diaphragms).

The only thing I truly believe is I like that “rubber” corrugated tube.
It removes that “tinny” sound you get from plastics.
In all my years, I only had one guy call “me in”.
And, “I called him in” (with his clients).
Turns out he was one of the best elk callers at the time in competitions.
So, I didn’t feel stupid.
And because I called him in, we shared a bunch of info and thoughts on bugles and equipment etc.

[madcalfe]

Wapiti river diaphragms are probably my favorite.
Also called in alot of bulls with a good old power bugle.

[Danny_Ocean]

Go to the store and get one of those kids plastic bats. Tape it up with hockey or duct tape, saw the end off, and you have a killer 5 dollar bugle! They also work great for raking trees.