What happened to her?

[phoenix]

Hi All,
I just got this pic from my game cam and I am wondering what caused this to this young lady.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=7253&cat=500
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/edit.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=7253&size=big&cat=recent&limit=recent)

[threedhunter]

could be a vehicle or a cougar.hita doe 6 years ago, she rolled down the side of the truck and connected with the running board bracket, left a large flap of hide on her hip but no leaker and no broken bones as she got up and ran off very easily after she got her bearings. no she didn't die, saw her again about 5 weeks later almost all healed over.:eek::eek:

[000buck]

dog, barbed wire, cut by a sharp stick while running, cougar with 1 claw who knows

[phoenix]

I don't know about a vehicle hit as I live at the end of an 8km dead end road, not much traffic. I have seen some cougar tracks lately.
Kim

[todbartell]

archery hunter

[BlacktailStalker]

Vehicle maybe

[phoenix]

Hi Tod,
Did you get my PM's on Predator Hunt? It just didn't look like a barbed wire wound as it's only on the one side and they usually tear up their legs in wire. I just released a doe from some wire about 3 weeks ago, she had a leg all caught up. Lucky the dogs and I found her before the 'yotes did. She was making quite a racket!
Kim

[alremkin]

Hm, well I'll pose a guess: She ran by a sharp broken off branch or rock scraping and cutting her hide. Animals are very resilient; it looks like she will recover.

[Freshtracks]

Come on guys :redface: ... that's obviously the front hoof rake from one of them TOAD bucks that you find only in CLEARWATER!!! Note the signature C.

It's another way dana records these bucks yearly ... looks like a road trip next year.. :tongue:

[Wildfoot]

archery hunter

hey now. no need to be slanderous. Dont group all us bowhunters in with CROSSbow hunters... :twisted:

[Derek_Erickson]

Drinking and driving rubbed it on a tree going a little too fast!

[M.Dean]

A uneducated guess, looks like she fell on some rocks well running,or slipped well doing a hard right turn maybe.Orrr,it could be a direct hit from a "non" Magnum Rifle, 270, 30 06, etc! Just kidding! There would be more bruising from the lighter calibers!!! LOL!

[GoatGuy]

shouldn't be baiting deer with hay, particularly mulies - if they aren't used to it it really isn't good for them.

[The Hermit]

hey now. no need to be slanderous. Dont group all us bowhunters in with CROSSbow hunters... :twisted:

No way for sure that was done by some guided rich American native woman at night with her quad!

[OOBuck]

No way for sure that was done by some guided rich American native woman at night with her quad!


Thats got to be it! What brand of quad do you figure Hermit??:cool:

[GoatGuy]

Deer Need a Little "Tough Love" in Winter
by Jim Knight
MSU Extension Wildlife Specialist
01/14/98 BOZEMAN -- The deer you plan to feed over the winter may need some "tough love" instead.
Just as people have learned that sometimes well-meant help facilitates unhealthy behavior, so winter feeding of deer is unhealthy -- or even deadly -- for deer, says Jim Knight, Montana State University Extension wildlife specialist.
Feeding seems like a generous answer to starving wildlife at first, says Knight. However, most people don't know that some common feeds can harm deer or change their behavior to the point that it leads to their destruction.
"Many people think that feeding deer in a hard winter can do nothing but help," says Knight. "That's not always the case." Knight describes the following scene he witnessed during the winter of 1996-97.
A tearful woman was talking to a central Montana wildlife biologist.
"We can’t afford any more food, and the poor things are dying," the woman complained. "Every day more and more come to the feeders, but we’re already spending $100 a month. Isn’t there something you can do?"
"I’m sorry, ma’am," the wildlife biologist said, "but you’re drawing deer from all over the area. They aren’t used to a diet of hay and corn, so I’m afraid you’re going to have more of this," he said, pointing to two frozen carcasses of yearling deer only feet from hay-filled feeders.
This scene is repeated many times each winter in Montana, says Knight.
Feeding deer hay or corn can kill them, because they cannot always digest it. Deer digestion involves protozoa and bacteria that help break down food. Different micro-organisms help digest different types of vegetation. If a deer has been feeding on aspen or willows, it has built up the micro-organisms that digest only this kind of vegetation. If this same deer suddenly fills its stomach with corn or hay, it may not have enough of the corn- and hay-digesting micro-organisms in its stomach to digest the food. A deer can starve to death with a full stomach.
In addition, deer can become fixated on a food source, says Knight. Deer will stay near a sure food source, even an inadequate one, rather than seek more sufficient food in other areas.
Once food is discovered, deer concentrate around a feeder rather than scattering through the available winter range. Often, they remain in an artificial feeding area getting only half the food they need rather than fighting the snow to use natural browse. They quickly deplete any close-by forage and can stay in a feeder area until they starve to death. This is why spring searches often reveal concentrations of dead deer within the immediate vicinity of feed areas.
So if you still decide to feed deer, you must feed every day, says Knight. If you become ill and can no longer feed, the deer that depend on you for food will suffer. Any interruption, whether due to depleted funds, a vacation, a snow storm or a midwinter move to a warmer climate, will eliminate part or all of a deer’s diet. Once a feeding program starts, it must continue until spring when delicate new growth lures deer to resume foraging away from your feeder.
And, another problem is that deer won't "divvy up" feed equally.
Deer need 3.5 pounds of good browse daily. If you aren't feeding this much for each one, some will be undernourished. Even if you provide this much food per deer per day on average, some deer will eat five pounds leaving other deer with too little. So some deer will starve.
In addition, artificial feeding makes deer abnormally competitive.
Competition between deer in natural situations usually is limited, because natural food sources are scattered. In artificial feeding situations, deer often become combative, striking one another with hooves to assure themselves a share of the food. Young deer, the ones that need the food most, are kept away by larger or stronger deer.
Artificial feeding also can spread disease.
When deer are abnormally close to one another, contagious diseases or parasites are more easily spread. Wildlife pathologists now suspect that artificially-fed deer in high populations may develop disorders that lead to peculiar habits, such as eating hair from themselves and other deer.
Early last spring, Knight says he had the unpleasant experience of seeing a yearling buck infested with black, wort-like growths. These growths, which are caused by a contagious virus, had completely covered the deer’s face. The blinded animal was running into fences, trees and other obstructions and had severely cut itself before being put out of its misery by a wildlife biologist. This deer was killed within a half mile of the woman’s feed station mentioned earlier.
The consequences of artificial feeding mentioned up to now are direct and easily observed. There are, however, other less obvious implications.
Many deer visiting feed stations are carrying fawns. If the food being provided is not as abundant as natural browse, not only the doe, but also her fawns may be undernourished.
Artificial feeding may force deer to ignore their instincts. Deer have evolved to fear man. This has helped them survive. Artificial feeding forces them to ignore the presence of people. In some cases, this could be their downfall.
Finally, artificial feeding would have to increase infinitely to feed all the animals that would come.
If you found the perfect diet that provided all necessary nutrients, and if you were able to feed the equivalent of 3.5 pounds per deer of good browse daily, and if you were able to get the feed divided equally among the animals, and if you were able to minimize the spread of disease due to the animals being closer together than they would be naturally, even then your problems would not be at an end.
Next year, the perfectly fed and healthy animals' offspring would come with their mothers. Each year, you would need to provide more feed for the new generations.
In truth, you may hurt more deer than you help if you feed them.
There is a way to help, however.
"Create and maintain a natural habitat and combine that with proper hunting. It's the only way to minimize starvation and work for both deer health and humane treatment," says Knight. "If deer populations aren't controlled by man or otherpredators, you will have starvation."

[308Lover]

Hide is neatly torn. Lower left has blood mark/scratches. Cougar or barbed wire would not have held the hide and torn it off so neatly. I'm guessing a sharp bumper or hood/grill of a car or truck. Is this within a few km of a road?

[Will]

archery hunter
Leave it to you ! :lol:........................:redface:

I wouldn't even guess as there's only about a Million ways for a deer to injure itself.....or get injured by another critter.

Ever seen an animal tear itself up after falling through Ice and trying to get out......just another possibilty, or a Samsquantch needed a Snack and took a piece, could be anything :wink:

[troutseeker]

I saw a very similar mark on a deer a buddy of mine shot a few years back. His first shot missed as the deer somewhat moved around, second shot killed it nad when we got to it is had a long furrow in it's hair'hide wher the first bullet just grazed it.

Troutseeker

[bsa30-06]

archery hunter

well this thread is going to go downhill fast.:lol: Lots of ways for a deer to hurt itself, but she looks like she'll be okay.

[000buck]

I've got it!!!!!!!! its the mark of ........ wait for it ............




L arry

[Wildfoot]

well this thread is going to go downhill fast.:lol: Lots of ways for a deer to hurt itself, but she looks like she'll be okay.

haha i think bartell was being facecious. I dont think even with a hard quarting torward shot with an over the top expndable shot through a low poundage bow (or xbow) would result in that. it hit all soft tissue and the scratch is at the bottom of the injury. I would have expected at least a little penetration if it was an arrow. The cut would be at the top of the scrach and get less as it went down the belly. At least thats what I figure from other screwed up archery shots ive seen.

My guess is some self inflicted wound from a fence or branch.

[huntwriter]

I can see no cuts, that eliminates barbed wire, predator claws and arrow broadhead.

The hair is shaved off and there are a few raw spots. This leads me to think that this injury has been caused by the antlers of a buck, a tree stump, broken branch or sharp edged rock.

It also could be an itchy skin condition such as; Eczema, Scabies, Psoriasis among others. However, the baldness pattern (round or elliptical) is not typical of these helath conditions.

What ever the case may be, the wound looks superficial and should heal up very soon without causing the deer great discomfort.

[puppychow]

Too wide of a path for an arrow. Vehicle or wire fence.

[bsa30-06]

haha i think bartell was being facecious. I dont think even with a hard quarting torward shot with an over the top expndable shot through a low poundage bow (or xbow) would result in that. it hit all soft tissue and the scratch is at the bottom of the injury. I would have expected at least a little penetration if it was an arrow. The cut would be at the top of the scrach and get less as it went down the belly. At least thats what I figure from other screwed up archery shots ive seen.

My guess is some self inflicted wound from a fence or branch.

I agree completely my guess would be branch or fence , maybe a busted off piece of blow down something like that.I'm sure she'll be fine in a week a or two.

[phoenix]

hey now. no need to be slanderous. Dont group all us bowhunters in with CROSSbow hunters... :twisted:

Now that is slanderous!!!!!!!!!!!

[phoenix]

Goat Guy,
It's my horses hay, the deer just decided it was theirs also, not much I can do about it so I put a camera there to see who is lurking around. They also feed alot on the large farm next to me so they get a pretty steady diet of hay.
Kim

[GoatGuy]

Goat Guy,
It's my horses hay, the deer just decided it was theirs also, not much I can do about it so I put a camera there to see who is lurking around. They also feed alot on the large farm next to me so they get a pretty steady diet of hay.
Kim

sounds good, just sharing. :-)

[eastkoot]

I had a fawn in the yard Friday that had a 4 inch hole torn about the same spot and a bit of intestine sticking out. CO did the deed and when we looked closer she had nip marks on her rear legs as well. CO said dogs !!! So, keep a close eye on where your dogs are if you have deer around town..

[Vader]

archery hunter
with a 10 inch cut on contact broadhead from a bad angle...:smile:

[hunter1947]

An iron machine.

[Coyote]

Todd...Archery hunter ????? please explain

I've seen this twice. Once was on a doe that had been killed a few minutes before I found her. The exposed tissue was still wet. The other was a doe that had been attacked by a wolf. I told my wife to sit tight because something was gonna happen. A few minutes later a wolf appeared on her trail.

'yote

[mrdoog]

Shaved: all the cool Does are doing it.