Provincial State Of Emergency

[savage10]

Province just declared state of emergency, asking people to avoid “non-essential travel” to southern interior and cariboo regions. Just as hunting season is about to get into full swing.

I wonder how long this will last, and to what extent they will enforce it? Road blocks on major highways again?

[Norwestalta]

Well don't know about the residents in the area but I'd be a little pissed off if some asshole started a fire that burnt my house down because he/she wouldn't listen to stay out of the area.

Just say'in

[Harvest the Land]

Smoke was brutal on top of the Coq and could barely see Merritt from up on the highway. But once you get to 70 mile its blue skies and can just barely smell smoke. Nope not complying with any BS ban on non essential travel. If anyone asks I will be brutally honest and tell them checking trail cams and making mock scrapes and clearing shooting lanes 2 weeks before opening day is absolutely an essential reason to travel. F this tyrannical socialist government!

[tri777]

Smoke was brutal on top of the Coq and could barely see Merritt from up on the highway. But once you get to 70 mile its blue skies and can just barely smell smoke. Nope not complying with any BS ban on non essential travel. If anyone asks I will be brutally honest and tell them checking trail cams and making mock scrapes and clearing shooting lanes 2 weeks before opening day is absolutely an essential reason to travel. F this tyrannical socialist government!

Good call !!
The world's only pandemic is simply LockDownitis

[Redthies]

As long as you don’t do anything stupid that causes problems for emergency crews, have at it in my mind. I have my brother and a long time friend both living in Kelowna off Clifton Rd that were evacuated at 1:00am today. Don’t know if their houses are still there, as they are both right where the fire jumped the lake. As crappy as this is, I doubt any of us going hunting is going to affect that shit in any way.

[Retiredguy]

I don't think anyone is going to have a problem as long as they are not trying to enter an area where there is an evacuation order. Some of these fires are going to cause serious problems for some people with draws however. Some places are getting seriously impacted.

The people who do cause problems however deserve to get their asses kicked.....cause sometimes it really isn't all about "ME". Just use some common sense.

My wife and I were already evacuated this summer for several weeks. Some of the stuff you see during an evac really just goes to confirm how incredibly stupid and arrogant some people are however.

[browningboy]

All these fires are act of arson, BC, Maui, Yukon etc.. probably some eco crazilots that want to force “climate change” agenda. It doesn’t get anymore apparent than that

[Downwindtracker2]

Browningboy, you better see doctor about your condition. . I don't mean that in a nasty way, rather in a friendly way.

[Bernie O]

To compare this genuine state of emergency to the fake pandemic is an insult to all firefighters. While there may have been some fires deliberately set is no reason to not obey this order. People are losing their entire homes and you think your hunt is more important? If you are lucky enough to live in an unaffected area you should be thankfull and be thinking of ways to help those that are NOW homeless through no fault of their own. Ilove to hunt but not at the expense of otyer hard working paople.

[browningboy]

Browningboy, you better see doctor about your condition. . I don't mean that in a nasty way, rather in a friendly way.

Then why are multiple arson arrests being made? Yukon, Northern Alberta etc? Think you just may stop believing Global news, not good for you.it’s nothing to joke about as many are loosing their homes, in fact I have a Kelowna family in my house since last night.

[MichelD]

To compare this genuine state of emergency to the fake pandemic is an insult to all firefighters. While there may have been some fires deliberately set is no reason to not obey this order. People are losing their entire homes and you think your hunt is more important? If you are lucky enough to live in an unaffected area you should be thankfull and be thinking of ways to help those that are NOW homeless through no fault of their own. Ilove to hunt but not at the expense of otyer hard working paople.

You got that right. Widespread fires like this are not the result of isolated cases of arson. I was coming home from a short trip to Lillooet on Thursday and saw several fires high up on the hillsides north of Lytton. Do some people seriously think an arsonist climbed halfway up the mountain to set a fire? They must be off their meds.

Which fire going on right now was caused by a quad on fire? Downton Lake? It's probably not the only one caused by careless quad users, never mind the overall world wide climate change casuing perfect conditons for forest fires like in Hawaii, Portugal, Greece and elsewhere.

[ACB]

All these fires are act of arson, BC, Maui, Yukon etc.. probably some eco crazilots that want to force “climate change” agenda. It doesn’t get anymore apparent than that
Ya, it couldn't be tinder dry Forrests and massive lightning strikes happening at poor times with no rain mixed in with high winds, couldn't be that. It has to be an army of eco-crazilots. Why does it not surprise me that you would go straight to a conspiracy theory? LOL Best wishes and safety wishes to all those being affected by these wild fires and a huge thank you to all the first responders and volunteers for their actions.

[Norwestalta]

Where I work in between dawson and tumbler I see stupidity everywhere. Stop signs, pipeline markers and lease signs shot full of holes. I know it is a select few that'll shoot at a sign let alone a sign at a intersection, corner or a hill. I don't trust these assholes to not start the bush on fire due to pure shit for brains and little regard for anyone else's safety. Do what you think is the best but please exercise good judgment.

[SSG-man]

You could see this coming few years ago with the other heat dome and the fires and consequences.
No preparation for containing fires early and having enough equipment and trained manpower.
The professionals and volunteers we have are stressed to the max.

[browningboy]

Ya, it couldn't be tinder dry Forrests and massive lightning strikes happening at poor times with no rain mixed in with high winds, couldn't be that. It has to be an army of eco-crazilots. Why does it not surprise me that you would go straight to a conspiracy theory? LOL Best wishes and safety wishes to all those being affected by these wild fires and a huge thank you to all the first responders and volunteers for their actions.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/4-youths-charged-with-arson-related-to-tuesday-night-fire-in-yellowknife-1.6937968

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/watch-nwt-rcmp-says-long-lake-fire-in-yellowknife-was-arson-four-youths-charged/article_c9efc814-3c4c-11ee-8696-7347045f2646.html

https://x.com/blackskagit/status/1031018676453928960?s=46&t=4NqNj5XzZk9K4yOvGayWPA

https://x.com/radionlnews/status/1525214400486838275?s=46&t=4NqNj5XzZk9K4yOvGayWPA

Totally a conspiracy theory? It’s happening everywhere unfortunately, apology accepted.

[elker]

If the wildfire is used as the evidence of the global warming, the eco terrorists will keep lightning them up, here and there, now and then

[Bernie O]

Except for one case[wich is one too many] there appears to be only disturbed individuals going back 15 years. You could include the burning of Rome and everything in between and still not have a conspiracy.

[SSG-man]

Somewhere there's a meme with Trudeau surfing away from burning landscape, with a briefcase marked Ukraine.

[stan]

You could see this coming few years ago with the other heat dome and the fires and consequences.
No preparation for containing fires early and having enough equipment and trained manpower.
The professionals and volunteers we have are stressed to the max.


Considering that we are one of the highest taxed countries in the world, why would we be borrowing CL415 aircraft from Montana? We have wasted more money on rainbow crosswalk bullshite , ensuring people can identify as farm animals whatever and useless gun buybacks , Cerb etc then a fleet of these awesome pieces of equipment would cost. The bureaucracy is so out of control , running rampant trying to control everything people do and say but have zero accountability for terrible decisions. The Mcdougal creek fire is an example of terrible decision making , this disaster was completely preventable. The dumb ******* that made the call to not action it from the air Tuesday evening or Wednesday when visibility was adequate and the fire was small should be hung at town square imo.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

You got that right. Widespread fires like this are not the result of isolated cases of arson. I was coming home from a short trip to Lillooet on Thursday and saw several fires high up on the hillsides north of Lytton. Do some people seriously think an arsonist climbed halfway up the mountain to set a fire? They must be off their meds.


Which fire going on right now was caused by a quad on fire? Downton Lake? It's probably not the only one caused by careless quad users, never mind the overall world wide climate change casuing perfect conditons for forest fires like in Hawaii, Portugal, Greece and elsewhere.

Here’s your climate crisis Michael.
She’s a former poster girl for human caused increase in hurricanes…that was until fellow researchers pointed out the flaws in her data. Since then she has spun a 180 and now preaches the truth even though it cost her former lucrative career.

These are the people that you need to pay attn to.

https://youtu.be/vVi01vJ4nxM

SSS

[Stone Sheep Steve]

My Uncle lived in Peachland in 2003 and was one of the first to call in the OMP fire in 2003. He was a heli pilot for many years and worked a lot on forest fires and he said that they completely shit the bed on how they handled the fire at the start.

SSS

[Iron Glove]

Which fire going on right now was caused by a quad on fire? Downton Lake? It's probably not the only one caused by careless quad users, never mind the overall world wide climate change casuing perfect conditons for forest fires like in Hawaii, Portugal, Greece and elsewhere.

The Rice Road fire near Coalmont a couple of weeks ago was caused by an ATV. Fortunately they hit it pretty quick.

[MichelD]

The Rice Road fire near Coalmont a couple of weeks ago was caused by an ATV. Fortunately they hit it pretty quick.

That's correct, that's the one I was trying to recall.

[RyoTHC]

Man wouldn’t it be nice if they set up road blocks and kept all those lower mainlanders out of the interior during hunting season again? Shit that was the best year of hunting ever!

[358mag]

Here’s your climate crisis Michael.
She’s a former poster girl for human caused increase in hurricanes…that was until fellow researchers pointed out the flaws in her data. Since then she has spun a 180 and now preaches the truth even though it cost her former lucrative career.

These are the people that you need to pay attn to.

https://youtu.be/vVi01vJ4nxM

SSS

Great post and interview !!!
Would love to see her on CBC !!!!

[Bugle M In]

All I ca say it’s been pretty damp dry in my neck of the woods all summer long.
Like a painter just said to me, it’s been a great year for him outside cause it was already good at the end of May into June.
I can’t recall this many straight months of virtually no rain and lots of sun.
Its dry!
I won’t be surprised if within a week or so, if we don’t get rain of any decent amount that they may ban us from the backcountry.
This is the worst season on record for fires, hands down.
And it’s been pretty windy many days as well.
Dry hot and windy, not an ideal situation currently.

[Iron Glove]

That's correct, that's the one I was trying to recall.

Our place in Tulameen is maybe 15 km the way the crow flies away, lots of distance but still scary. If it had crossed the Tulameen River to the South of Tulameen it would've made a lengthy exodus if the place had to be evacuated.

[ghost]

Lots of places burnt on little Shuswap.

[scott h]

Lots of places burnt on little Shuswap.
Yah the Shuswap is getting hit hard today, every time the wind changes it blows embers into a fresh new fuel load. Looks like Scotch creek, Magma bay, Anglemont areas was hit hard last night and a bunch of residents needed to get out by boat.

[elknut]

The point about the Forest Service not jumping on these fires right away is the main reason we have such severe fires ...Heads should roll for the Managers that make these decisions ...The Forest Service is corrupt ..Another note is the NDP govt hasnt spent shit on mitigating fires...They had a 5 Billion dollar surplus and spent it on Bull Crap...They could of put a Billion dollars in to get more water bombers and hire more firefighters and also pay them better to retain them...People need to wake up and demand change to the Ministry of Forests and its management and demand they action these fires with water bombers and ******ant asap then send in the firefighters ...Rumour has it that the big shots get crazy salary for fires so its in there interest to delay them ..Also years ago when the fires ravaged Kelowna and Barriere there was a leak on the news to the effect ......Let insurance pay for it not the BC Government ...It got shutup real fast and never to be heard of it being said ..All info was deleted ..So do I think the BC govt and the BCFS have our best interest at heart ......NO...Dennis PS The NDP went from a surplus of 5 Billion to a deficit of 5 Billion ...Yup ...really friggin intelligent .....

[j270wsm]

If it’s not threatening towns/cities…..let it burn. Let nature do what it did for thousands of yrs before man interfered.

[elknut]

j270 wsm ....Tell that to the people that lost their homes or ranches or businesses..If its like the Donnie creek fire then possibly let it burn ...But interface fires should be jumped on with everything right away ..Dennis

[Wentrot]

j270 wsm ....Tell that to the people that lost their homes or ranches or businesses..If its like the Donnie creek fire then possibly let it burn ...But interface fires should be jumped on with everything right away ..Dennis

Are you daft? He clearly said “if it’s not threatening towns/cities…”

[j270wsm]

Sorry for not specifically saying “ if homes aren’t threatened “

Do you honestly think that we’re doing the right thing for our ecosystem by suppressing every single fire? Part of the reason some of these fires are so bad is the fact that some of these areas haven’t burned in decades.

[BimmerBob]

j270 wsm ....Tell that to the people that lost their homes or ranches or businesses..If its like the Donnie creek fire then possibly let it burn ...But interface fires should be jumped on with everything right away ..Dennis

I am not sure about what will fix the situation that our society has got us in at this point as we have let too much fuel accumulate in the forests so that when there is a fire event it is almost unstoppable unless they get on them within hours of ignition. I hear suggestions that they need to let them burn but there is always someone that is impacted negatively by that decision and certainly the creatures are impacted by that decision so my thoughts are a bit mixed on it.

What I feel needs to happen is that we actually begin to manage our forest land actively, with thinning and prescribed burns on a regular basis, so that the forests become mature as well as safe. When we do this we can then actively get on all fire events quickly to protect the critters, the people and the forest resource so that it can be profitably harvested. Right now we seem to want to take the profits from the resource but not invest in the resource to maintain it. Somehow it seems like all things of value in society take from the productive and give to the non-productive without regard to sustaining the productive so we have it in the longer term.

Can something like that be done? I believe so but there has to be a sustained and long term commitment to make it happen and I do believe that should such a thing occur it would make the entire process less costly than the way it is now. We need ongoing active forest land management along with quick fire management response so that we can continue to profit as a society from the forest resources we have been blessed with.

Just my cursory thoughts on this as a resident that has lived with what seems to be a history or forest land mismanagement and emergency fire response that is a day late and dollars short to the dismay of those that are charged with responding in a no-win scenario after being called in too late to actually get the job done in a way they would prefer.

Can we do better? I certainly hope so, but not unless we hold the political leadership accountable as the ones holding the the keys to the public purse and so far hiding from responsibility to the people that fund that purse.

Cheers and be well.../B

[srupp]

hmmm so far my sister is only on evacuation notice..but is expecting to be tossed soon..sis is not a conspiratory theorist however she said something is not making sense fires starting where one normally would not expect them to occur..winds distances etc...
when the West side started...crews should have expected and prepared for the worst..nope.
All the famillies contents for 2 houses was loaded into tractor trailer semi units...sprinklers placed on the roofs and let run...couple helicopters on standby with plenty of water close...and it got this big....hmmmmmmm
familly is fine
steven

[elker]

If we look at the Google earth, BC is mostly covered by thick forests. The only way to reduce the wildfire is to log the forests which will thin out the trees. Also the controlled burning should be done frequently

[j270wsm]

There is no doubt that our province needs bigger/better water bombers and that they need to get on fires faster when threatening towns/cities. Prescribed burns and selective harvesting around communities would also help.

[stan]

The point about the Forest Service not jumping on these fires right away is the main reason we have such severe fires ...Heads should roll for the Managers that make these decisions ...The Forest Service is corrupt ..Another note is the NDP govt hasnt spent shit on mitigating fires...They had a 5 Billion dollar surplus and spent it on Bull Crap...They could of put a Billion dollars in to get more water bombers and hire more firefighters and also pay them better to retain them...People need to wake up and demand change to the Ministry of Forests and its management and demand they action these fires with water bombers and ******ant asap then send in the firefighters ...Rumour has it that the big shots get crazy salary for fires so its in there interest to delay them ..Also years ago when the fires ravaged Kelowna and Barriere there was a leak on the news to the effect ......Let insurance pay for it not the BC Government ...It got shutup real fast and never to be heard of it being said ..All info was deleted ..So do I think the BC govt and the BCFS have our best interest at heart ......NO...Dennis PS The NDP went from a surplus of 5 Billion to a deficit of 5 Billion ...Yup ...really friggin intelligent .....

so none of you dumb ****s listened to what I said?

[Redthies]

My hunting partner who lives in 3-26 is about to arrive after being ordered out, and my brothers house may or may not still be standing on Clifton Rd in Kelowna.

Letting the bush burn and focusing on houses is not a bad idea. Regeneration is a real thing…

[TheObserver]

Smoke was brutal on top of the Coq and could barely see Merritt from up on the highway. But once you get to 70 mile its blue skies and can just barely smell smoke. Nope not complying with any BS ban on non essential travel. If anyone asks I will be brutally honest and tell them checking trail cams and making mock scrapes and clearing shooting lanes 2 weeks before opening day is absolutely an essential reason to travel. F this tyrannical socialist government!

**** yeah dude!! FU*K EM!!!!

[XPEIer]

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say logging is the answer!!! We have been logging for over 100 years here in BC, so obviously it is NOT the answer.


If we look at the Google earth, BC is mostly covered by thick forests. The only way to reduce the wildfire is to log the forests which will thin out the trees. Also the controlled burning should be done frequently

[RackStar]

Man wouldn’t it be nice if they set up road blocks and kept all those lower mainlanders out of the interior during hunting season again? Shit that was the best year of hunting ever!

hahaha way to stoke the fire. Even if worst case , they can catch some salmon , and shoot some blacktail. Definitely wouldn’t be the end of the world. Though the ones on here would be responsible imagine if some righteous twat headed up anyways and started a fire that burnt down your house. I’d be frickin livid

[scott h]

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say logging is the answer!!! We have been logging for over 100 years here in BC, so obviously it is NOT the answer.
Hopefully this will be the impetus for the province to finally deal with the logging issue. There is a ton of logging that could be done in this province if it was done in a more appropriate way (thinning), that would keep loggers working AND help game numbers.

[elker]

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say logging is the answer!!! We have been logging for over 100 years here in BC, so obviously it is NOT the answer.

the past few years the logging was mismanaged by the NDP regime/Eco-terrorists, hence we have seen more wildfires than before. It’s the same situation for the wildfires in Canada under the Liberal regime.

the so-called climate change has never been the cause, the mismanagement by the leftist government is (and always is).

[high horse Hal]

care to explain this 'mis management'?

big coffee in hand, this oughta be good.....

[MOOSE MILK]

Re[QUOTE]: Provincial State Of Emergency

Smoke was brutal on top of the Coq and could barely see Merritt from up on the highway. But once you get to 70 mile its blue skies and can just barely smell smoke. Nope not complying with any BS ban on non essential travel. If anyone asks I will be brutally honest and tell them checking trail cams and making mock scrapes and clearing shooting lanes 2 weeks before opening day is absolutely an essential reason to travel. F this tyrannical socialist government!




What a selfish attitude. You want to go into an area that has been deemed to be a fire hazard for your selfish desire so that you won't
miss a hunting trip.
People are losing their homes, firefighters are risking their lives, and firefighters have lost their lives. And poor you, boo-hoo boo-hoo might miss a hunting trip
What a self-absorbed prick you are.
While you're in there enjoying your hunt you could be the cause of rescue volunteers having to risk their lives to try and save your ass should you become trapped by fire, chances are you could be the cause of a fire. Dry grass ignited from a hot exhaust pipe, hell your vehicle could catch fire, recently an ATV burst into flames and caused the mega-fire. There are lots of ways you could be the cause of setting off a wildfire.
But your entitled ass needs to check game cams.
MM

[digger dogger]

I worked with an Indian a while back, he said his parents grandparents etc, would burn valleys late in the fall and let the rain snow etc put out the fires. A few yrs later there was descent hunting, and healthy habitat. That was in the fifties, and the mismanagement started in the 60’s, he figured.

[stan]

Re[QUOTE]: Provincial State Of Emergency


[QUOTE]
Smoke was brutal on top of the Coq and could barely see Merritt from up on the highway. But once you get to 70 mile its blue skies and can just barely smell smoke. Nope not complying with any BS ban on non essential travel. If anyone asks I will be brutally honest and tell them checking trail cams and making mock scrapes and clearing shooting lanes 2 weeks before opening day is absolutely an essential reason to travel. F this tyrannical socialist government!





What a selfish attitude. You want to go into an area that has been deemed to be a fire hazard for your selfish desire so that you won't
miss a hunting trip.
People are losing their homes, firefighters are risking their lives, and firefighters have lost their lives. And poor you, boo-hoo boo-hoo might miss a hunting trip
What a self-absorbed prick you are.
While you're in there enjoying your hunt you could be the cause of rescue volunteers having to risk their lives to try and save your ass should you become trapped by fire, chances are you could be the cause of a fire. Dry grass ignited from a hot exhaust pipe, hell your vehicle could catch fire, recently an ATV burst into flames and caused the mega-fire. There are lots of ways you could be the cause of setting off a wildfire.
But your entitled ass needs to check game cams.
MM[/QUOTE

ya an idiot for sure .drive from coast to caribou to check game cams lol.

[RyoTHC]

Man wouldn’t it be nice if they set up road blocks and kept all those lower mainlanders out of the interior during hunting season again? Shit that was the best year of hunting ever!

going to quote myself here.

really crossing my fingers for manned road blocks on the highway keeping all the entitled pricks from the lower mainland from coming to the interior or beyond.

go hunt your black tails and fish for your salmon princess.

[SSG-man]

Poor Trudeau.
Had to cancel his surfing vacation to deal with reality of being acting leader.

Hope people get homes replaced sooner than Lytton.

[boilerroom]

going to quote myself here.

really crossing my fingers for manned road blocks on the highway keeping all the entitled pricks from the lower mainland from coming to the interior or beyond.

go hunt your black tails and fish for your salmon princess.

You could also quote yourself "Me and my hunting buddy are doing an elk/WT hunt in 7-20 general area sept 8-17 if anyone wants to get back out there."

So it's ok for you to travel to another region but not others? What an entitled attitude, dude.

Had quite enough of people bashing those from other areas, including the LML.

[elknut]

So why are you calling me down STAN....Im saying the same thing ..This BS with BCFS and Ministry of Forests has been going on for too long ..They push climate change down our throats and yet do nothing ..No money and no action ..This fire in Kelowna is another mass failure to act responsibly ..Dennis ...PS we had a fire in 100 mile house a number of years back that they sent the local fire dept out to fight with probably no more than 100 feet of hose and unable to get close to the fire ..The BCFS turned down a local helocopter company who volunteered to fight the fire ...He had all credentials in order ...So yes this is BS what is happening ..

[elknut]

Sorry j270wsm ...You are correct ..I agree if there is some areas that they can let it burn so be it ..Sorry for the inference ...Dennis

[elknut]

Thanks Stan but Im not a dumb ****s ...

[Harvest the Land]

What a selfish attitude. You want to go into an area that has been deemed to be a fire hazard for your selfish desire so that you won't
miss a hunting trip.
People are losing their homes, firefighters are risking their lives, and firefighters have lost their lives. And poor you, boo-hoo boo-hoo might miss a hunting trip
What a self-absorbed prick you are.
While you're in there enjoying your hunt you could be the cause of rescue volunteers having to risk their lives to try and save your ass should you become trapped by fire, chances are you could be the cause of a fire. Dry grass ignited from a hot exhaust pipe, hell your vehicle could catch fire, recently an ATV burst into flames and caused the mega-fire. There are lots of ways you could be the cause of setting off a wildfire.
But your entitled ass needs to check game cams.
MM

FYI I didn't drive into any fire zones or evacuation alert/order areas. I don't have a quad. I don't smoke or make fires (ever). I literally park right on the hwy or just off and always park where there's only exposed dirt/rocks and hike everywhere on foot (many many kms). There is absolutely no way I'm ever going to start a fire.

Had a great trip and saw LOTS of animals. Air quality up there was so much better than it is down here.

Its amazing the stuff people will say from behind a keyboard. So much vitriol spewn everywhere these days its nuts. Thanks for the laugh and I hope you're having a great weekend too

[scott h]

FYI I didn't drive into any fire zones or evacuation alert/order areas. I don't have a quad. I don't smoke or make fires (ever). I literally park right on the hwy or just off and always park where there's only exposed dirt/rocks and hike everywhere on foot (many many kms). There is absolutely no way I'm ever going to start a fire.

Had a great trip and saw LOTS of animals. Air quality up there was so much better than it is down here.

Its amazing the stuff people will say from behind a keyboard. So much vitriol spewn everywhere these days its nuts. Thanks for the laugh and I hope you're having a great weekend too
That literally made me spit out my coffee!! Coming from you thats pretty rich.....

[Bugle M In]

Seems like the winds have been mild the last day or 2, so that helps.
But sure is windy here in the LM currently.
Have that storm coming up from Mexico thru California etc.
I think some of our fires are far from over still.
I am still thinking there are going to be areas not open for backcountry use come opening of hunting.
All I want to say is, if you are heading out there and allowed to do so, just be very smart and careful.
Stick to the roads with any sort of vehicles.
Exhaust pipes get hit.
Doesnt take much to set grass in fire or a spark off the vehicle and ground.
When the rains hit, good to go, but not a moment sooner.

[RugDoctor]

That literally made me spit out my coffee!! Coming from you thats pretty rich.....
Says the guy who proclaimed he and his wife would do harm to vulnerable people under their care as “health care workers”. Way to go champ.

[HarryToolips]

You could also quote yourself "Me and my hunting buddy are doing an elk/WT hunt in 7-20 general area sept 8-17 if anyone wants to get back out there."

So it's ok for you to travel to another region but not others? What an entitled attitude, dude.

Had quite enough of people bashing those from other areas, including the LML.

I was going to respond the same way as you, but then realized he's obviously just trolling to get ppl worked up, as there's no way someone could actually be that hypocritical..

[stan]

I agree with you elknut, the Kelowna situation was a massive mistake.The heroes that made the calls on this fire when it was small and calm need to be held accountable.

[BlackOwL]

Man wouldn’t it be nice if they set up road blocks and kept all those lower mainlanders out of the interior during hunting season again? Shit that was the best year of hunting ever!

you are the perfect example of a poor devil with delirium of greatness.
and some day you are going to fall from your high horse.
how much did you paid to own region 3? But please do NOT misunderstand me, I do NOT think that you are an idiot.

[tyreguy]

Ya, keep us lower mainlanders away so you can have your sister all to yourself. - your mom and your brother like it that way plus your sister said your dad is the better kisser than you.
Call me an entitled prick and not have to answer for it? Let me know when you put your big boy pants on and stop wearing your tuck briefs.


going to quote myself here.

really crossing my fingers for manned road blocks on the highway keeping all the entitled pricks from the lower mainland from coming to the interior or beyond.

go hunt your black tails and fish for your salmon princess.

[SSG-man]

It's the Trudeau era.
People emulate him.

[elker]

Ya, keep us lower mainlanders away so you can have your sister all to yourself. - your mom and your brother like it that way plus your sister said your dad is the better kisser than you.
Call me an entitled prick and not have to answer for it? Let me know when you put your big boy pants on and stop wearing your tuck briefs.


I think that you have crossed the line. Your words are rude.

[RyoTHC]

Ya, keep us lower mainlanders away so you can have your sister all to yourself. - your mom and your brother like it that way plus your sister said your dad is the better kisser than you.
Call me an entitled prick and not have to answer for it? Let me know when you put your big boy pants on and stop wearing your tuck briefs.


Eh thanks for proving my point !
not only do you guys not have a sense of humour… you’re also exactly as depicted lol
no wonder everyone north of hope hates 604s.

on that note, I’ve done a tonne to help people in the lower mainland…

anyone who wants to put their money where their mouth is instead of words?

how many folks have you taken to fill their first tag? How many items or hundreds of dollars have you donated to your hunting community ? How many hours have you invested into your local fish and game club or cleaning up your local hunting grounds? Only thing I see from 99% of 604s is “me me me” and a ****ing mess once they leave!

and I put a jab out in jest and you all foam at the mouth, again proving my point.

Though me hoping they close the highways was NOT a joke… that year was heaven.. you should have seen how clean the FSRs were! I didn’t find a beer can every 50 feet and no new stop signs got shot…

the following years… can’t say the same.

that being said every single winner of this years bear derby were from the lower mainland..
so obviously we include you sensitive folks ;)

[RyoTHC]

You could also quote yourself "Me and my hunting buddy are doing an elk/WT hunt in 7-20 general area sept 8-17 if anyone wants to get back out there."

So it's ok for you to travel to another region but not others? What an entitled attitude, dude.

Had quite enough of people bashing those from other areas, including the LML.



hmm. Let’s check some reading comprehension…when did the Kelowna fires start and when was the state of emergency enacted ? Was it before or after that post ?

glad you have enough time to go through someone’s post history to try to argue with them on the internet and.. still be wrong lol


I can’t even believe that I have to state that I was joking about the highway closures Jesus guys.. I’m not from BC, if anything in closure to a tourist lol

[WhiteTailAB]

Hope it clears up, I'm going to quesnel in October.

[Norwestalta]

I don't know how dry the bush is where you guys are hunting but if it's half as dry as I think it is be very careful.

I'm curious what your plans are once when you get up the FSR your hunting on and some halfwit starts a fire behind you and you can't get back out?

[Wentrot]

I don't know how dry the bush is where you guys are hunting but if it's half as dry as I think it is be very careful.

I'm curious what your plans are once when you get up the FSR you’re hunting on and some halfwit starts a fire behind you and you can't get back out?

Far higher odds of a halfwit giving him the PIT maneuver on the way up than someone starting a fire behind him. Quit grasping.

[Norwestalta]

Far higher odds of a halfwit giving him the PIT maneuver on the way up than someone starting a fire behind him. Quit grasping.

Not grasping at sfa it ain't me that'll be putting someone in a situation.

[Harvest the Land]

I don't know how dry the bush is where you guys are hunting but if it's half as dry as I think it is be very careful.

I'm curious what your plans are once when you get up the FSR your hunting on and some halfwit starts a fire behind you and you can't get back out?

The reality is that its always this dry here every single summer, this is nothing new and that risk has always been around. But Covid is over and the govt and MSM need new fear porn to keep everyone afraid and eyeballs glued to their nightly propaganda "news" casts and it kinda sounds like you're taking the bait Blaine.

BTW most fsr's have more than 1 way to get out.

Everyone lock your doors, stay inside and remain in a perpetual state of fear forever!

[tuner]

I can’t believe all the people that couldn’t figure out RyoTHC was joking when he posted the “road block LML’rs”! It was clearly done in jest, but some people just seem hell bent on taking offence, Lol. It seems a little snowflakery for a bunch of manly hunters. :mrgreen:

[Iron Glove]

I can’t believe all the people that couldn’t figure out RyoTHC was joking when he posted the “road block LML’rs”! It was clearly done in jest, but some people just seem hell bent on taking offence, Lol. It seems a little snowflakery for a bunch of manly hunters. :mrgreen:

Yup, I agree with you, some folks are just too damn sensitive these days. :smile:
Having said that, we have a lovely cabin North of Princeton, i.e "250" World, do virtually all my hunting there, spend @ 1/3 of our life there, but we live at the Eastern boundary of "604 World." There are some locals in the cabin area that use the term "604" as a derogatory term when discussing the "summer people" that infest the area at times. A quick reminder that without the $$ and taxes we "604's" bring in their community would be pretty desolate.
Our cabin neighbour, a Local, used to refer to us as "FSP's", i.e. effing summer people to which I responded, No, we are "Four Season People", he laughed.

[high horse Hal]

best benefit I can see from the SoE is the freeing up of accommodations for fire crews and evacuees
Closing YLW ws a good move too, not sure if that was local call or SoE

[HappyJack]

I don't know why anyone would deliberately go into one of those big fire zones, clearly there are a lot of people being evacuated [15,000?] and they need places to land [hotels,motels,resorts,private properties] and with that many people in a rush they sure don't need any additional traffic congestion. At the best of times the roads around Kelowna are running at over capacity already, I can't imagine how bad it is with those evacuees fleeing for their lives. People should stay away from those places until things settle down. IMHO

[sdpy1]

In 2021 I lost everything on my farm to the White Rock Lake fire and would like to encourage proper etiquette out of respect for land owners affected by these fires. If you are passing through private land to hunt crown please respect the following:

1: Don't gawk! Folks have been through a lot and they need their privacy to assess damages and sort things out.

2: There is no situation in which it is appropriate to ask for access to private land in the immediate years following a fire. Please have compassion for the folks who lost what they worked hard for and respect their privacy.

3: Respect emergency vehicles and local traffic in the following months. Show courtesy to land owners as they are moving equipment on roads. Don't block access points, and for the love of God don't challenge people if they ask you to move/leave.

4: Be aware that Conservation Officers will be present on back country roads to ensure no hunting in recently burnt areas. If you have no right to be there you may be escorted off, fined, or potentially charged.

5: There are motor vehicle prohibitions (https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/sports-culture/recreation/motor-vehicle-prohibitions) in place for back country access to ensure sensitive areas are not harmed further. Do your part to ensure a successful return of wildlife to these areas by letting them rest for a couple years as requested by our local biologists.


I know its a lot to ask, but coming from a fellow hunter who lost everything its a small price to ensure our communities and wildlife can recover. Please do your part!


Shane

[SSG-man]

best benefit I can see from the SoE is the freeing up of accommodations for fire crews and evacuees
Closing YLW ws a good move too, not sure if that was local call or SoE

Ya, that's fairly logical plus they actually stated that and the fact people were getting too close with cameras and drones, heading towards the fires.

Want a conspiracy theory?
Trudeau flying in to surf while the Hwy is conveniently shut down, so he can have an empty beach.
Marie Antoinette tweeting from a sea weed kelp bath, "summers almost over then it's back to work and school. Enjoy the last of your holidays".
The country's burning, people fleeing homes.
Have fun people.

[Norwestalta]

The reality is that its always this dry here every single summer, this is nothing new and that risk has always been around. But Covid is over and the govt and MSM need new fear porn to keep everyone afraid and eyeballs glued to their nightly propaganda "news" casts and it kinda sounds like you're taking the bait Blaine.

BTW most fsr's have more than 1 way to get out.

Everyone lock your doors, stay inside and remain in a perpetual state of fear forever!

I don't know where you're spending you time in the bush but I do know I've never seen the bush so dry at my place. Up until a month ago it was terrible dry. We had guys cutting green hay ( normally it green) and starting fires. I don't have a whole lot of faith or trust in mankind these days not to **** me up lol. All I'm saying is do what you gotta do but in mindful that it could screw someone else up due to ignorance and a don't give a **** attitude.

[Downwindtracker2]

It 's crazy, we never had towns and cites endangered or even being burnt. Ever ! It's like we are living in California .

[stan]

Facts are times are changing, forestry has to act fast and hard on fires at the interfaces.Like I already mentioned the misuse of our tax dollars is unacceptable.I personally have family and friends that have lost everything due to inaction on this fire in West Kelowna.Why was it not acted on early? The extreme wind conditions were forecasted?Now I sit and listen to how great they all are on every news outlet.Declare states of emergency so they can dork everybody around that’s sleeping on concrete somewhere.Painful imo.To be on record , I have great respect for the frontline pilots and firefighters but zero for the clowns making decisions.
Ill add , the bushcreek complex started July 12 , I’m pretty sure if the right aerial response was applied it sure wouldn’t be what it is today.

[goatdancer]

It 's crazy, we never had towns and cites endangered or even being burnt. Ever ! It's like we are living in California .

As the population grows, most cities and towns also grow. The expansion usually results in homes being built closer to the forests. What would you expect?

[goatdancer]

All these fires are act of arson, BC, Maui, Yukon etc.. probably some eco crazilots that want to force “climate change” agenda. It doesn’t get anymore apparent than that

Seriously? ALL?

[browningboy]

Seriously? ALL?

Okay a lot of them then, obviously some lightning strikes etc.

[stan]

As the population grows, most cities and towns also grow. The expansion usually results in homes being built closer to the forests. What would you expect?
The only thing I expect is fast hard response for fires on the interface.And modern aircraft purchased with our tax revenue.

[boilerroom]

hmm. Let’s check some reading comprehension…when did the Kelowna fires start and when was the state of emergency enacted ? Was it before or after that post ?

glad you have enough time to go through someone’s post history to try to argue with them on the internet and.. still be wrong lol

I can’t even believe that I have to state that I was joking about the highway closures Jesus guys.. I’m not from BC, if anything in closure to a tourist lol


It's a shame Ryan - you seem to do some nice things but then act pretty immaturely. I guess instead of apologize you say "I was joking"... you sound like Trump... going into a fire area wasn't the point of your post - it's that you want to keep all from the LML out of the Interior.

And to your other point in response to another post calling you out (with vulgarity I didn't like by the way) while belittling "604s" for not helping out, I remember some guy on here (hmmmm I wonder who) who was asking for people to buy his stuff because he needed money for house repairs. I bought a BL backpack from you to try to help you out - even though I didn't really need it and it still sits in its plastic packing in the closet.

Grow up kid, we'll all be better for it.

BR

[Blueback2014]

During the 1990< we had a fir in the Sheemahant on Owikeno Lake. The fire boss came into the Machmell camp to make a radio call home. I was standing outside the office waiting my turn to use the radio and I heard him distinctly laughing as he told his wife that he was not interested in putting out the fire because he was getting double time and a half. At that time they had both Mars on the fire , I have photos of these real water bombers.

[RyoTHC]

You know, I think you’re right.
A change of scenery is desperately needed.


all the best folks.

[180grainer]

Seriously? ALL?
Not all. But a large percentage. There is clearly something going on. It doesn't help that the technology to create environmental situations that exaserbate fires, earth quakes, hurricanes, etc, actually and demonstratably exists, ...........and that our Governments are captured baffoons of the WEF/Banker death cult. If the technology exists to do it, why is it crazy to suggest it's being done?

[Redthies]

no wonder everyone north of hope hates 604s.

Though me hoping they close the highways was NOT a joke… that year was heaven.. you should have seen how clean the FSRs were!

Ryo- Where are you from? I know you live in the Loops area (or did), but where are you originally from? I’m not asking to bash, honestly I’m curious.

I was born, and currently live in the west Kootenays. If you are old enough (I don’t think you are?) you’d know that for a very long time, there was ONLY 604 numbers in BC. 250 didn’t even show up until 1996. I and my phone are still 604 in the Kootenays! The shitty thing is, if I left a message for local builders when I was redoing my house and building a new shop last year, people wouldn’t even return my call. These are people who forget that we were all 604 once, and they probably moved here from Alberta! But I don’t get a call back based on my phone number. So effing stupid…

Elk season is about to start, and my property is at the base of an FSR that dozens of hunters will drive up to chase our local herd. Some are locals, some are from the coast. As long as they’re respectful of the area, I don’t really care. Would I prefer a “locals only” season? Sure. Who wouldn’t? But that’s not how it works unless the ‘vid comes back…

[digger dogger]

You know, I think you’re right.
A change of scenery is desperately needed.


all the best folks.

But but but, what about your sheep draw story from last year?
Lol
Bub, bye!

[Wentrot]

But but but, what about your sheep draw story from last year?
Lol
Bub, bye!

He struck me as a compulsive liar.

[walks with deer]

He is not a liar at all...

And if i texted him to help me with anything he would be on his way...

Good guy.

[Norwestalta]

109 mm of rain in the forecast for the grande prairie area. Make sure you grab some.

[Redthies]

He is not a liar at all...

And if i texted him to help me with anything he would be on his way...

Good guy.

We all have our issues. Ryo has always struck me as a good guy from the limited interactions I’ve had with him.

[walks with deer]

Yup he pissed me off once but he was scensir and made it right...

Right know many people are having a bad night reach out and support.. these fires have a intensty i have never seen before.
Offer a bed house some livestock.. and if your trained and have gear get ready to help..and yes the back country should be closed except for people extinguishing strikes.period.

Loggers have been pulled they should all be making mineral soil breaks...thousands of skilled bushmen are parked...so backwards..

Dry lightning tonight and no resources..

[Redthies]

I’m in the Boundary/Kootenay and we got a ton of rain yesterday, thankfully with no lightning. My brother was driving from Lumby back to Kelowna to see if they would let him back to his house for some work equipment and said it was raining really hard in the Vernon and Winfield areas. My hunting partner was going home to Salmon Arm area from evac and said there was 4” deep rivers of water on the highway near Winfield. That should help things considerably.

[tuner]

I’m in the Boundary/Kootenay and we got a ton of rain yesterday, thankfully with no lightning. My brother was driving from Lumby back to Kelowna to see if they would let him back to his house for some work equipment and said it was raining really hard in the Vernon and Winfield areas. My hunting partner was going home to Salmon Arm area from evac and said there was 4” deep rivers of water on the highway near Winfield. That should help things considerably.

My sister in Lake County sent me a video of the rain coming down and it was absolutely torrential, they were ecstatic.

[j270wsm]

This morning I talked with a friend in west Kelowna, he said no rain yesterday but the ground was wet this morning.

[mike31154]

Didn't get that much in Vernon, just enough to dampen the yard a smidgeon. I have rain barrels set up & there was next to no accumulation in them. I was watching the radar picture & it looks like most of the rain just missed us to the east. Quite a few lightning strikes that caused additional fires reported by BC Wildfire Service.

Visibility much improved this morning, but widespread smoke is forecast for tomorrow.

[Redthies]

We got another good soaking this morning here on the 8/4 border.

I hope it spreads around to other areas.

[Redthies]

The travel ban has been lifted except for the Westbank area. Go forth and hunt my friends!

[scott h]

Interesting turn..... Looks like the "Convoy of Truth and Freedom" (whatever that means) is getting all their crazies together and heading into the fire zone in the Shuswap (they must be bored again). So instead of a confrontation the fire fighters pulled out of the Scotch creek area. Nothing like making a bad situation worse for those that own property in the area.

“As of tonight, BC Wildfire Service unit crews, contractors, heavy equipment operators, and structural firefighters from the North Shuswap area will be reassigned to other areas of the Bush Creek East and Ross Moore Lake wildfires,” wrote BCWS in a since-deleted post.
“This decision was not made lightly. The safety of people is our primary concern.”

https://www.northislandgazette.com/news/north-shuswap-on-edge-after-alleged-incident-on-highway-1-amid-wildfire-3014944

[Harvest the Land]

Interesting turn..... Looks like the "Convoy of Truth and Freedom" (whatever that means) is getting all their crazies together and heading into the fire zone in the Shuswap (they must be bored again). So instead of a confrontation the fire fighters pulled out of the Scotch creek area. Nothing like making a bad situation worse for those that own property in the area.

“As of tonight, BC Wildfire Service unit crews, contractors, heavy equipment operators, and structural firefighters from the North Shuswap area will be reassigned to other areas of the Bush Creek East and Ross Moore Lake wildfires,” wrote BCWS in a since-deleted post.
“This decision was not made lightly. The safety of people is our primary concern.”

https://www.northislandgazette.com/news/north-shuswap-on-edge-after-alleged-incident-on-highway-1-amid-wildfire-3014944

What's also interesting scotty is you conveniently chose not to quote these paragraphs from that article:

"“We wish to engage in a diplomatic and peaceful conversation with checkpoint officers to seek clarity as to why such a large block,” said the post. “The threat of fires is greatly reduced.”

"Comments on social media suggest the convoy was also trying to deliver supplies to residents who have remained behind in the North Shuswap, defying an evacuation order."

Are you prepping for an editors job at the CBC or Global or the Toronto Star?

[HappyJack]

Hey Guys

We need to get the story out about what’s happening in the Shuswap. Can you guys please post this everywhere. Send it to everyone you know. Please help us.

My name is Stef and my husband Jorne and I own a home at the end of Meadow Creek road in Celista BC. The fire department and forestry lit a back burn around 4pm on Thursday Aug 17th knowing there were 30km winds coming. No news outlet is talking out this. My husband has been monitoring the winds and the Adams creek fire for weeks. On Tuesday Aug 15th we knew the winds were coming. The fire was approx 15km away from us. We don’t know who decided to light a back burn knowing the wind forecast. They lit a 14km back burn right to our back door and never notified us. My dad who lives in Kelowna knew about a “out of control back burn” before we did. They didn’t even come to tell us. They notified the locals by posting it on a piece of paper at the gas station.

At 845pm we saw the fire just over the ridge. And by 12pm it had reached meadow creek road and was in back yard. Without the back burn we could have had a whole day to prepare. We did have sprinklers up, water tanks loaded and generators ready to go. We knew we were pretty much on our own and would not receive much help. The fire department did come down the road and were there briefly. Once they deemed the fire out of control they left. When the fire came into the valley we watched it burn up the sides of the mountain due to the humidity dome created with all the sprinkler and water. The fire department abandoned us. About 2 hours had passed when some locals came down our valley with resources and help. I was notified the fire department was sitting in a field having coffee so I went t to get them. When I got there I asked them to come help us, told them the situation. One of the firemen told me they wanted to help but had orders to sit. I yelled at them to get in their trucks and come help us. They said they would. I went back down the road to notify our crew they were coming. I sat and waited but no one came. About 15 minutes had gone by so I went back up the road and found them sitting about 1km away. They told me they were assessing the situation. I asked how they could assess if they couldn’t see it? I again asked them to come help and they finally did. Everyone ran around putting hot spots out. We wore water packs and half masks with headlamps for the next 3 days making sure our houses made it through.

In the initial days after the “superfire” the locals were able to get water, gas and supplies but now there is a heavy police presence. They have the roads blocked off saying they are preventing looting. The locals are being told to return to their homes. They are not allowed to be helping at all. There are spike strips on the roads. Police blocks everywhere. There are people trying to get essential supplies in such as water, gas and food by boat. They are being turned away. Police are patrolling the roads and water. They have the gas stations blocked off.

We need the real story to get out so we can get help.

We are more than equipped to help put this fire out but are being stopped. We need resources such as gas, diesel to keep us going. They’re trying to starve us out so they can let it burn.

My number is 250-509-0400 Please feel free to post my number. I’m willing to talk to anyone who can help us.

[scott h]

What's also interesting scotty is you conveniently chose not to quote these paragraphs from that article:

"“We wish to engage in a diplomatic and peaceful conversation with checkpoint officers to seek clarity as to why such a large block,” said the post. “The threat of fires is greatly reduced.”

"Comments on social media suggest the convoy was also trying to deliver supplies to residents who have remained behind in the North Shuswap, defying an evacuation order."

Are you prepping for an editors job at the CBC or Global or the Toronto Star?

Speaking about conveniently not quoting from the article.....

“That somebody then takes this and twists it into some nasty, right-wing bulls—t is…unbelievable. To add this to the tragedy we’ve just lived through and are trying to recover from is so sad.”

Just before 10 p.m., the following was shared on the Facebook group North and South Shuswap Fire Watch 2023 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/988501655810285?utm_source=north%20island%20gazett e&utm_campaign=north%20island%20gazette%3A%20outboun d&utm_medium=referral):

“If anyone’s at the convoy at the blockade right now can you please leave immediately? We have fire crews ready to come in and work with us locals and let us help and give info and assistance; all you guys are doing is causing a big scene and making this more difficult. I know it seems like a good cause but it’s just making things worse, everyone please leave now.”

[Harvest the Land]

Speaking about conveniently not quoting from the article.....

“That somebody then takes this and twists it into some nasty, right-wing bulls—t is…unbelievable. To add this to the tragedy we’ve just lived through and are trying to recover from is so sad.”

Just before 10 p.m., the following was shared on the Facebook group North and South Shuswap Fire Watch 2023 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/988501655810285?utm_source=north%20island%20gazett e&utm_campaign=north%20island%20gazette%3A%20outboun d&utm_medium=referral):

“If anyone’s at the convoy at the blockade right now can you please leave immediately? We have fire crews ready to come in and work with us locals and let us help and give info and assistance; all you guys are doing is causing a big scene and making this more difficult. I know it seems like a good cause but it’s just making things worse, everyone please leave now.”

I wasn't the one who initially posted the link to this article. Whenever I post a link to an article I post the entire friggin thing - not just a few selective quotes that further my narrative

[HarryToolips]

Hey Guys

We need to get the story out about what’s happening in the Shuswap. Can you guys please post this everywhere. Send it to everyone you know. Please help us.

My name is Stef and my husband Jorne and I own a home at the end of Meadow Creek road in Celista BC. The fire department and forestry lit a back burn around 4pm on Thursday Aug 17th knowing there were 30km winds coming. No news outlet is talking out this. My husband has been monitoring the winds and the Adams creek fire for weeks. On Tuesday Aug 15th we knew the winds were coming. The fire was approx 15km away from us. We don’t know who decided to light a back burn knowing the wind forecast. They lit a 14km back burn right to our back door and never notified us. My dad who lives in Kelowna knew about a “out of control back burn” before we did. They didn’t even come to tell us. They notified the locals by posting it on a piece of paper at the gas station.

At 845pm we saw the fire just over the ridge. And by 12pm it had reached meadow creek road and was in back yard. Without the back burn we could have had a whole day to prepare. We did have sprinklers up, water tanks loaded and generators ready to go. We knew we were pretty much on our own and would not receive much help. The fire department did come down the road and were there briefly. Once they deemed the fire out of control they left. When the fire came into the valley we watched it burn up the sides of the mountain due to the humidity dome created with all the sprinkler and water. The fire department abandoned us. About 2 hours had passed when some locals came down our valley with resources and help. I was notified the fire department was sitting in a field having coffee so I went t to get them. When I got there I asked them to come help us, told them the situation. One of the firemen told me they wanted to help but had orders to sit. I yelled at them to get in their trucks and come help us. They said they would. I went back down the road to notify our crew they were coming. I sat and waited but no one came. About 15 minutes had gone by so I went back up the road and found them sitting about 1km away. They told me they were assessing the situation. I asked how they could assess if they couldn’t see it? I again asked them to come help and they finally did. Everyone ran around putting hot spots out. We wore water packs and half masks with headlamps for the next 3 days making sure our houses made it through.

In the initial days after the “superfire” the locals were able to get water, gas and supplies but now there is a heavy police presence. They have the roads blocked off saying they are preventing looting. The locals are being told to return to their homes. They are not allowed to be helping at all. There are spike strips on the roads. Police blocks everywhere. There are people trying to get essential supplies in such as water, gas and food by boat. They are being turned away. Police are patrolling the roads and water. They have the gas stations blocked off.

We need the real story to get out so we can get help.

We are more than equipped to help put this fire out but are being stopped. We need resources such as gas, diesel to keep us going. They’re trying to starve us out so they can let it burn.

My number is 250-509-0400 Please feel free to post my number. I’m willing to talk to anyone who can help us.


Can't imagine the aggravation they're feeling right now, thanks for posting..

[RugDoctor]

Speaking about conveniently not quoting from the article.....

“That somebody then takes this and twists it into some nasty, right-wing bulls—t is…unbelievable. To add this to the tragedy we’ve just lived through and are trying to recover from is so sad.”

Just before 10 p.m., the following was shared on the Facebook group North and South Shuswap Fire Watch 2023 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/988501655810285?utm_source=north%20island%20gazett e&utm_campaign=north%20island%20gazette%3A%20outboun d&utm_medium=referral):

“If anyone’s at the convoy at the blockade right now can you please leave immediately? We have fire crews ready to come in and work with us locals and let us help and give info and assistance; all you guys are doing is causing a big scene and making this more difficult. I know it seems like a good cause but it’s just making things worse, everyone please leave now.”
Speaking about a guy who deleted a post that he made because he said something that later came back to bite him…..That’s you scotth. You deleted the post in which you said you and your wife would harm people in your care as health care workers if they held differing political opinions.

Hypocrite.

[scott h]

Speaking about a guy who deleted a post that he made because he said something that later came back to bite him…..That’s you scotth. You deleted the post in which you said you and your wife would harm people in your care as health care workers if they held differing political opinions.

Hypocrite.

You do know that only the mods can delete posts don't you?

[tri777]

You do know that only the mods can delete posts don't you?

Oh good grief man, blaming a Mod..
How to delete a post, at bottom of user's post:

- Click 'Edit'
- Click 'Delete'
- Click round circle 'Delete'
- Click 'Delete Post'

[scott h]

Oh good grief man, blaming a Mod..
How to delete a post, at bottom of user's post:

- Click 'Edit'
- Click 'Delete'
- Click round circle 'Delete'
- Click 'Delete Post'
Too funny. I never realized that.

[tri777]

Too funny. I never realized that.

But now for the hard part, who deleted the post in question...?
Lol

[Hunter gatherer]

Too funny. I never realized that.
You must think you are so clever

[Retiredguy]

Jeez....what is it with this site lately? I think a bunch of people on this site need to take a chill pill and quit with all the bickering. It makes a person want to hit the log out button and reminds me of why I spend very little time on forums.

[KootenayKiller]

Too much smoke. Of the wrong kind at least. That reminds me, time to hit the bong

[RugDoctor]

Too funny. I never realized that.
But you realized what you said…..and how wrong it was. You just can’t be man enough to admit it.

[Harvest the Land]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52LlebPm4p4

[Redthies]

Jeez....what is it with this site lately? I think a bunch of people on this site need to take a chill pill and quit with all the bickering. It makes a person want to hit the log out button and reminds me of why I spend very little time on forums.

Funny, I was just thinking the same thing. This used to be a place where hunters talked about hunting. Now it’s all politics and conspiracy theories with a token hunt related thread every couple of weeks at best.

[Harvest the Land]

Funny, I was just thinking the same thing. This used to be a place where hunters talked about hunting. Now it’s all politics and conspiracy theories with a token hunt related thread every couple of weeks at best.

And yet here you are - clearly you aren't that bothered by it otherwise you wouldn't be here reading and posting in a non-hunting related thread.

What conspiracy theories are you referring too?