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wetcoasthunter1
03-01-2023, 09:42 AM
Hey all, does anyone know of an outfit or individual that charters in a supercub on floats? Preferably out of Muncho or surrounding area. Reason being is looking at a couple lakes that might be on the small side for a larger aircraft to takeoff/land on. Thanks in advance!

ryanb
03-01-2023, 10:48 AM
No charters, only outfitters, and they won't fly residents into those types of lakes unless you're willing to pay huge$. Urs can get into some pretty small lakes in his otter if he's loaded light, check with him.

358mag
03-02-2023, 10:01 AM
No charters, only outfitters, and they won't fly residents into those types of lakes unless you're willing to pay huge$. Urs can get into some pretty small lakes in his otter if he's loaded light, check with him.

But remember if Urs is flying you wont be the only one there !!!!!! He loves stacking hunters , to him its just all about $$$$$$

Imdone
03-02-2023, 10:17 AM
Sandpile? How late season of a pickup?

ryanb
03-02-2023, 07:00 PM
But remember if Urs is flying you wont be the only one there !!!!!! He loves stacking hunters , to him its just all about $$$$$$

See it from his perspective, he has a short season and huge overhead. If 2 groups want to go to the same lake that's on them. He'll tell you if it's the case, and if you don't like it have a plan B lake in mind.

He's expensive, but if it was it was a viable operation for less he'd have competition.

REMINGTON JIM
03-02-2023, 07:21 PM
Urs is in Business to fly people in and out of the back country ! Not his concern or business to worry about who or how many are out there in a given area ! He’s in business to make money not direct hunters . JMO. RJ

eatram
03-02-2023, 07:59 PM
I fly with him sometimes. He is quite indifferent in how many people go in before or after. Even when an area is "stacked" with others, we still get our game. Most don't. You want to know why? Boot leather and headlamps. No offense, but i hear so much complaining from other hunters when we get back to basecamp... There's no game... too many hunters.... outfitters..... wolves.... and on and on and on. I hear it every year. It's always from the same kind of guys. The guys who smell nice and have clean clothes on. Honest comment here; when you find yourself complaining about such things, look in the mirror. Do you look anything like this?! Well, you should if you want to shoot. Tired, windburned, hungry, old.


https://i.postimg.cc/d048J51y/Sheep-tired.jpg (https://postimg.cc/1gVgHcDm)

REMINGTON JIM
03-02-2023, 08:12 PM
Excellent :wink: RJ

BCbillies
03-02-2023, 08:20 PM
I fly with him sometimes. He is quite indifferent in how many people go in before or after. Even when an area is "stacked" with others, we still get our game. Most don't. You want to know why? Boot leather and headlamps. No offense, but i hear so much complaining from other hunters when we get back to basecamp... There's no game... too many hunters.... outfitters..... wolves.... and on and on and on. I hear it every year. It's always from the same kind of guys. The guys who smell nice and have clean clothes on. Honest comment here; when you find yourself complaining about such things, look in the mirror. Do you look anything like this?! Well, you should if you want to shoot. Tired, windburned, hungry, old.


Make no excuses and take no prisoners! I’m definitely tired, windburned, injured, always hungry and definitely older than you . . . 🙋*♂️

eatram
03-02-2023, 08:23 PM
Make no excuses and take no prisoners! I’m definitely tired, windburned, injured, always hungry and definitely older than you . . . ��*♂️

See you next weekend, my friend! Shower twice before you get to the show please...

BCbillies
03-02-2023, 08:30 PM
See you next weekend, my friend! Shower twice before you get to the show please...

Haha! One long shower for sure!!! Time to catch up and talk sheep . . . flight is booked, no winers allowed to board the plane!

Rotorwash
03-02-2023, 08:34 PM
I need a PA-18 with an 0-360 in the worst way

eatram
03-02-2023, 08:37 PM
I need a PA-18 with an 0-360 in the worst way

If you do, I call shotgun....

mod7rem
03-02-2023, 10:10 PM
Urs is in Business to fly people in and out of the back country ! Not his concern or business to worry about who or how many are out there in a given area ! He’s in business to make money not direct hunters . JMO. RJ

I agree 100%. He provides a ride for a price. The price is high but I also never feel as safe with other outfits as I do with him. His planes are immaculate, he’s an excellent pilot. Other outfits can be in planes that appear to be held together with just positive thoughts, and can be with pilots that have only been flying floats for a short time, and may not have ever been to the lake you’re going to. My friends group got a pilot one year that was more nervous than they were lol.
One year we flew into a lake with Urs sheep hunting, and met a couple hunters two days away from the lake up in the mountains. One of the guys was super pissed off because he had called Urs’ outfit a few months prior to ask if anyone was flying into that lake on those dates. The answer he got was no, so he booked with a different outfit expecting to find no one else there. When he met us he acted like he’d been betrayed ha ha. This lake is 10 km’s long and you can hike in any direction and find sheep mountains. Weird expectations.
I’ve had other guys in the mountains tell me they will book dates into a lake with a couple outfits, cancel one last minute and eat the deposit just to prevent others from being there. Then wonder why pilots might not be honest.

REMINGTON JIM
03-02-2023, 10:31 PM
I need a PA-18 with an 0-360 in the worst way

and with a TURBO on it too ! :-D RJ

HappyJack
03-03-2023, 08:26 AM
I agree 100%. He provides a ride for a price. The price is high but I also never feel as safe with other outfits as I do with him. His planes are immaculate, he’s an excellent pilot. Other outfits can be in planes that appear to be held together with just positive thoughts, and can be with pilots that have only been flying floats for a short time, and may not have ever been to the lake you’re going to. My friends group got a pilot one year that was more nervous than they were lol.
One year we flew into a lake with Urs sheep hunting, and met a couple hunters two days away from the lake up in the mountains. One of the guys was super pissed off because he had called Urs’ outfit a few months prior to ask if anyone was flying into that lake on those dates. The answer he got was no, so he booked with a different outfit expecting to find no one else there. When he met us he acted like he’d been betrayed ha ha. This lake is 10 km’s long and you can hike in any direction and find sheep mountains. Weird expectations.
I’ve had other guys in the mountains tell me they will book dates into a lake with a couple outfits, cancel one last minute and eat the deposit just to prevent others from being there. Then wonder why pilots might not be honest.

Good guys to put onto a blacklist.

358mag
03-03-2023, 01:49 PM
See it from his perspective, he has a short season and huge overhead. If 2 groups want to go to the same lake that's on them. He'll tell you if it's the case, and if you don't like it have a plan B lake in mind.

He's expensive, but if it was it was a viable operation for less he'd have competition.

O I understand how it all works , been there done that . My message was more warning to new first time fly in hunters that think there going to be the only one up there . Don't worry about his huge overhead , there's no shortage of $$$ behind that operation .

BCbillies
03-03-2023, 08:38 PM
I’ve had other guys in the mountains tell me they will book dates into a lake with a couple outfits, cancel one last minute and eat the deposit just to prevent others from being there. Then wonder why pilots might not be honest.

I’ve never thought of the double booking . . . that’s taking it to a whole new level! I haven’t had to pay a deposit until this year (I booked a flight last year too) and it’s antics like this that likely made the deposit pretty hefty. I have no issue with paying a deposit as it keeps the partners committed too.

Avalanche123
03-03-2023, 08:43 PM
I’ve never thought of the double booking . . . that’s taking it to a whole new level! I haven’t had to pay a deposit until this year (I booked a flight last year too) and it’s antics like this that likely made the deposit pretty hefty. I have no issue with paying a deposit as it keeps the partners committed too.

Main reason I started guiding in 2007.....got tired of partners who didn't commit so figured, screw it might as well turn a passion into an off season career....No regrets! :)

Trust you are well! (I quit Social Media but do miss your adventures!)

BCbillies
03-03-2023, 09:02 PM
Main reason I started guiding in 2007.....got tired of partners who didn't commit so figured, screw it might as well turn a passion into an off season career....No regrets! :)

Trust you are well! (I quit Social Media but do miss your adventures!)

All is well! Still go to Terrace every year to get off the grid. I’ve hardly been on here in recent years. While I’m eligible for retirement in a month I have quite a few kids and all to feed at home still. Would love to be guiding but living thru my son who started sheep guiding last year at 18. That’s a great life . . . grounds a person, keeps you fit and removes a person from all the junk going on in society. All the best in 2023!

Downtown
03-03-2023, 09:34 PM
Hey all, does anyone know of an outfit or individual that charters in a supercub on floats? Preferably out of Muncho or surrounding area. Reason being is looking at a couple lakes that might be on the small side for a larger aircraft to takeoff/land on. Thanks in advance!

Midnight Anderson comes to mind, trouble is you are 50 years to late.
Why not buy your own P18 150 HP, a decent used on Edos with halve time Engine can be had for less then 200K.

Cheers

mod7rem
03-03-2023, 10:42 PM
I’ve never thought of the double booking . . . that’s taking it to a whole new level! I haven’t had to pay a deposit until this year (I booked a flight last year too) and it’s antics like this that likely made the deposit pretty hefty. I have no issue with paying a deposit as it keeps the partners committed too.

Ya it surprised me too. This fly in stuff is very popular so there’s an element of competition that brings out trickery in people. Eating a deposit for a decent sized group is probably not a big burden if it means one less group in the same area.

high horse Hal
03-04-2023, 08:57 AM
Ya it surprised me too. This fly in stuff is very popular so there’s an element of competition that brings out trickery in people. Eating a deposit for a decent sized group is probably not a big burden if it means one less group in the same area.
its laughable to think this would actually work to better a hunt
more humourous is to picture the butt hurt the hunter would feel when the charter dropped another group at 'his' lake after leaving the deposit on the table

BCbillies
03-04-2023, 09:41 AM
its laughable to think this would actually work to better a hunt
more humourous is to picture the butt hurt the hunter would feel when the charter dropped another group at 'his' lake after leaving the deposit on the table

Better yet is the guys who got flown in on a discount with the $1,500 deposit left behind also scoop the original cancel culture dude on a group of rams! Karma can come back and getcha good 😜

IslandWanderer
03-04-2023, 12:35 PM
I fly with him sometimes. He is quite indifferent in how many people go in before or after. Even when an area is "stacked" with others, we still get our game. Most don't. You want to know why? Boot leather and headlamps. No offense, but i hear so much complaining from other hunters when we get back to basecamp... There's no game... too many hunters.... outfitters..... wolves.... and on and on and on. I hear it every year. It's always from the same kind of guys. The guys who smell nice and have clean clothes on. Honest comment here; when you find yourself complaining about such things, look in the mirror. Do you look anything like this?! Well, you should if you want to shoot. Tired, windburned, hungry, old.


https://i.postimg.cc/d048J51y/Sheep-tired.jpg (https://postimg.cc/1gVgHcDm)

Very good points. We had a week long hunt in November with not much 'luck'. It's only now, months later, that I'm realizing how little true effort I put in other than simply showing up. Planning on redoing the trip this November properly.

Imdone
03-04-2023, 02:56 PM
Eatram and BC Billy's have proven time and time again, hard work, dedication and perseverance pay off.
Even though you fly in, horse pack, jet boat, you still have to beat the crowd.
It's specially satisfying beating a guide and their clients.

REMINGTON JIM
03-05-2023, 07:52 AM
its laughable to think this would actually work to better a hunt
more humourous is to picture the butt hurt the hunter would feel when the charter dropped another group at 'his' lake after leaving the deposit on the table

yup I agree :tongue: More money then brains ! :cry:RJ

REMINGTON JIM
03-05-2023, 07:54 AM
Very good points. We had a week long hunt in November with not much 'luck'. It's only now, months later, that I'm realizing how little true effort I put in other than simply showing up. Planning on redoing the trip this November properly.

pretty typical of the NDP :-P RJ